Guest Soulsurfer Posted April 6, 2014 Posted April 6, 2014 A bootleg that turned out to be the real deal? I've never been that lucky myself, but the law of averages says it's got to have happened to a lucky few? additionally, has anyone ever got anything particularly rare? I think it would make my year if it were to happen to me!
Winsford Soul Posted April 6, 2014 Posted April 6, 2014 I remember when I used to run winsford niters someone ( no names ) bought a Freddie chevez for £10 the person selling it thought it was a boot. Don't know how much that pale blue look issue goes for now. But me thinks it a bit more than ten quid. Steve
Popular Post Steve S 60 Posted April 6, 2014 Popular Post Posted April 6, 2014 I remember when I used to run winsford niters someone ( no names ) bought a Freddie chevez for £10 the person selling it thought it was a boot. Don't know how much that pale blue look issue goes for now. But me thinks it a bit more than ten quid. Steve They'll never know why he thought it was a boot. 4
Benji Posted April 6, 2014 Posted April 6, 2014 I did at a local do. Velours I'm gonna change MGM demo. Was advertised as a bootleg. 8 Euros.
NEV Posted April 6, 2014 Posted April 6, 2014 No but plenty of people have bought what they must think is the real thing and got a boot / re-issue . Some do it even when the seller clearly states its not the original https://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/Cindy-Scott-I-Love-You-Baby-Northern-Soul-/121306456328?_trksid=p2047675.l2557&ssPageName=STRK%3AMEWAX%3AIT&nma=true&si=Vl%252FkQs0qlscipD778d0c3N7cPHM%253D&orig_cvip=true&rt=nc 1
Cheapsiderecords Posted April 6, 2014 Posted April 6, 2014 I did not actually buy them but a bloke I used to work with back in the 70's gave me a bag of pressings and there was a Tony Hestor on Karate in there!!
Guest Soulsurfer Posted April 6, 2014 Posted April 6, 2014 No but plenty of people have bought what they must think is the real thing and got a boot / re-issue . Some do it even when the seller clearly states its not the originalhttps://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/Cindy-Scott-I-Love-You-Baby-Northern-Soul-/121306456328?_trksid=p2047675.l2557&ssPageName=STRK%3AMEWAX%3AIT&nma=true&si=Vl%252FkQs0qlscipD778d0c3N7cPHM%253D&orig_cvip=true&rt=nc Yeah, I know of loads of instances of that happening - happened to me, wasn't stated as a pressing though - Younghearts, a little togetherness. i didn't realise originas had a nashville matrix until about 6 months after I paid for mine....
Rich B Posted April 6, 2014 Posted April 6, 2014 (edited) Yum Yums - chap thought he was selling me a boot. Rob Smith had a 'real' boot in his box so a quick quick confirmed my suspicions - East coast original £7 - made sure I told him that I knew he thought he was ripping me off too! He wasn't real happy about it either.... Edited April 6, 2014 by Rich B 2
Liamgp Posted April 7, 2014 Posted April 7, 2014 I got Rita Dacosta and The Hesitations for nothing from a guy I knew at school. "I'm finished with Northern. Here, you're wanting to get into it so you can have these boots" At the time (1981) I had no idea what a bootleg was, and only discovered they were real when I bought the Manship guide. Sadly I also discovered several things I thought were real...weren't!
Haydn Posted April 7, 2014 Posted April 7, 2014 Delreys Inc-Destination Unknown, am sure it was a soul pack from Pat Brady in late 80's or 4 records for £20, always thought it a boot till I auctioned it last year cos it was sh#t. 1
Labeat Posted April 7, 2014 Posted April 7, 2014 (edited) They'll never know why he thought it was a boot Ha ha, gud'n Edited April 7, 2014 by Labeat
Dennisoul Posted April 7, 2014 Posted April 7, 2014 I've never been so lucky...but my mate Mark Wilson bought an International GTOs- I love my baby - that was advertised on eBay as a boot and turned out to be an original.
Orotava Posted April 7, 2014 Posted April 7, 2014 No but plenty of people have bought what they must think is the real thing and got a boot / re-issue . Some do it even when the seller clearly states its not the originalhttps://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/Cindy-Scott-I-Love-You-Baby-Northern-Soul-/121306456328?_trksid=p2047675.l2557&ssPageName=STRK%3AMEWAX%3AIT&nma=true&si=Vl%252FkQs0qlscipD778d0c3N7cPHM%253D&orig_cvip=true&rt=nc
Kev John Posted April 7, 2014 Posted April 7, 2014 Got 7 Dwarfs - Stop Girl - Ideal for 5 quid it was a real 1 originally priced up at 7 quid
Spacehopper Posted April 7, 2014 Posted April 7, 2014 about 7 years back I bought something fro ebay,cant remember what...the seller then sent me a list of others he had for sale inc crackin up over you for £7..thinkin it was the orange reissue which was going for 25 at the time I bought it along with some others inc our love will grow/showmen for 8..both originals the crackin up being a nice black issue :-) 1
Winsford Soul Posted April 7, 2014 Posted April 7, 2014 Got 7 Dwarfs - Stop Girl - Ideal for 5 quid it was a real 1 originally priced up at 7 quid Love that record. Paid £100 I think when I got mine. Don't see many proper ones. Steve 3
Soul-slider Posted April 7, 2014 Posted April 7, 2014 Bought Jimmy Conwell - Too Much (Gemini) and Caesars - Girl I Miss You (Lanie) for £4 each in my local record shop, the owner thought they were boots! Not sure where he gets his info from but they haven't been booted! He has boots that he thinks are real priced as originals!!! Don't think he knows his arse from his elbow...
Dave Rimmer Posted April 7, 2014 Posted April 7, 2014 Bought Jimmy Conwell - Too Much (Gemini) and Caesars - Girl I Miss You (Lanie) for £4 each in my local record shop, the owner thought they were boots! Not sure where he gets his info from but they haven't been booted! He has boots that he thinks are real priced as originals!!! Don't think he knows his arse from his elbow... Sorry to say Jimmy Conwell has been booted, on a very good look alike copy as well.
TOAD Posted April 7, 2014 Posted April 7, 2014 Again jimmy conwell so easy to spot the fake then play it !!
Guest in town Mikey Posted April 7, 2014 Posted April 7, 2014 (edited) Not me but my father. He came home from work one day and said he'd bought 2 records off a guy at work who had gotten into Punk, and he'd heard my dad asking 'what is this Northen Soul my son keeps on about?'. 50p each. I got an original Whisky Talkin' and Dickie Wonder - Nobody Knows (Golden triangle version). Cos I was new and my dad said they weren't real I put them in a box of pressings and didnt take them out for nearly ten years, soon after my dad passed away. When I pulled the Dickie Wonder I had a bit of a shock and checked the Forte, and it was real too. I've had to sell records in the not too distant past to make ends meet. But I'd never part with those 2. Edited April 7, 2014 by in town Mikey
Soulstu Posted April 7, 2014 Posted April 7, 2014 Bloody hell - turns out virtually every 'US original' I bought (from nighters, mates, and chuffing bona fide record shops - hang your head in shame Vallances of Mansfield) turned out to be a bleeding boot - mostly found all this out on here - absolutely decimated my collection in one go. I felt rubbish - so it must be doubly brilliant to find out the other way round.
Guest chrislokeh Posted April 7, 2014 Posted April 7, 2014 Always thought my Epitome of sound was a boot
Winsford Soul Posted April 7, 2014 Posted April 7, 2014 One of my wellies was a boot. The other one was too. Steve 2
pogo paul Posted April 7, 2014 Posted April 7, 2014 Bought some Dr Martins thought they were boots and they turned out to be shoes 2
Labeat Posted April 8, 2014 Posted April 8, 2014 (edited) What to do with Boots eh? Edited April 8, 2014 by Labeat
davidwapples Posted April 8, 2014 Posted April 8, 2014 I got a record by breadknife that i thought was a boot , turned out to be a carver 1
Rich B Posted April 8, 2014 Posted April 8, 2014 As a youngster I was in Selectadisc buying a Sweets 'Satisfy me baby' - when the guy (Nick I think it was) pulled it out of the rack he said "You're in luck, its a real one!" - handed it over for the 75p anyway. Good man!
DerekG Posted April 8, 2014 Posted April 8, 2014 (edited) Donald Lee Richardson - advert said boot - record said no - £10 Edited April 8, 2014 by DerekG
Soul-slider Posted April 8, 2014 Posted April 8, 2014 Sorry to say Jimmy Conwell has been booted, on a very good look alike copy as well. Ah yes, just checked mine, stamped and the proper colour green. Phew..
Wiggyflat Posted April 8, 2014 Posted April 8, 2014 Before the guides I had a lovely white ric tic demo of Al Kent..Acting lately then got an issue in a soul pack which I swiftly got rid of.I've also got a flesh coloured Epitome as well.I had the green boot but got rid as it wasn't as pleasing on the eye.I still can't find that raised number on the Epitome.
Dean Posted April 8, 2014 Posted April 8, 2014 Mentioned before but as it fits the thread. Valances in Mansfield had a record section at the back ( be about 1977) had the usual boots pinned to the wall for that period in a town consumed with NS. Had white Sassy demos of Frank Beverly on the wall for £2, bought as a boot turned out real. There must be several in Mansfield lofts.
Ian Dewhirst Posted April 8, 2014 Posted April 8, 2014 I bought an original "Rosemary What Happened" - Richard 'Popcorn' Wylie white promo for £1.00 in the mid 80's. Thought it looked authentic and it turned out it was. I'm pretty sure I did the same thing with a Velours MGM promo too....... Ian D
Dazz Posted April 8, 2014 Posted April 8, 2014 Before the guides I had a lovely white ric tic demo of Al Kent..Acting lately then got an issue in a soul pack which I swiftly got rid of.I've also got a flesh coloured Epitome as well.I had the green boot but got rid as it wasn't as pleasing on the eye.I still can't find that raised number on the Epitome. Didn't think there was a white demo of 'Acting lately' ? the raised bit is underneath the label itself mate, you have to feel for it, a bit like braille. Last week found a nashville matrix on a copy of 'Age of the wolf' Susan Coleman that I had thought was a boot for 30 years
Guest Dave Ward Posted April 8, 2014 Posted April 8, 2014 I heard that the best way to tell a bootleg from an original is to scrape the label off after soaking the disc in boiling water, If it's a boot, the label is harder to get off. Just checked my entire collection and luckily for me they were all originals.
Guest in town Mikey Posted April 8, 2014 Posted April 8, 2014 I heard that the best way to tell a bootleg from an original is to scrape the label off after soaking the disc in boiling water, If it's a boot, the label is harder to get off. Just checked my entire collection and luckily for me they were all originals. The witch dipping method. If they drown they are innocent. if they live they are witches.
Jim Elliott Posted April 8, 2014 Posted April 8, 2014 Eddie Foster, 1987 for 50p at the 100 Club, assumed it was a boot for years until informed otherwise last year. Off it went for considerably more. Jim.
Dobber Posted April 8, 2014 Posted April 8, 2014 bought a box of 50 reissues...grapevine...destiny..pye..etc...for £25 a couple of years back,also with records was a sue lynn-don't pity me-rca!...BARGAIN!
Rodders22 Posted April 8, 2014 Posted April 8, 2014 A few years ago a mate of mine gave me some Northern Records he had bought back In the 70s. after going through them! I found most were either Pressing/ boots, but one that had me checking the Manships Guide was Eddie Parker's- Love You Baby on Ashfofd with a large ARCHER Stamp I was made up to find it was original. One of the other 45s was a Deep red / poor quality sounding boot of Duke Browner-- Crying over you- on Impact. A Duke Browner boot went on Ebay last week and was at £100+ The last time I looked? Sold as a second press. It's a bloody mine field out there and some people are just not bothered. Rod
paultp Posted April 8, 2014 Posted April 8, 2014 I got a Martha Reeves - No One There in a London record shop in the early 2000's for a fiver, I keep it in the cardboard sleeve it came in which still has the price on it and something like "Nice Motown" written on it.
nksouldude Posted April 8, 2014 Posted April 8, 2014 Off subject slightly Brought of manship very early eighties a Natural Four thought you were mine on boola boola records listed for £3.00 Thought then this was boot/pressing Found out later that it was the first issue and is worth now approx. £300 2
Swifty Posted April 8, 2014 Posted April 8, 2014 Off subject slightly Brought of manship very early eighties a Natural Four thought you were mine on boola boola records listed for £3.00 Thought then this was boot/pressing Found out later that it was the first issue and is worth now approx. £300 Nice !
Labeat Posted April 8, 2014 Posted April 8, 2014 Off subject slightly Brought of manship very early eighties a Natural Four thought you were mine on boola boola records listed for £3.00 Thought then this was boot/pressing Found out later that it was the first issue and is worth now approx. £300 Thats when it makes record collecting all the more worthwhile, be nice wouldn't it.... 1 in every 10 that way
Swifty Posted April 8, 2014 Posted April 8, 2014 I got INNERSECTION W/D in a soul pack and was told by Rob Thomas it was disco shite but soul packs are a different story , sorry !
Paul R Posted April 9, 2014 Posted April 9, 2014 Got a Moses Smith Girl Across The Street for about a quid in 75 ish. Always thought it was a boot until I went to sell my records about 5 years ago & got Manships Boot guide & found out it was original.
Gilly Posted April 9, 2014 Posted April 9, 2014 Our one and only Rod Shard (modernsoulsucks) got a De-Larks for 50p in Wigan record bar if I remember correctly is that right Rod
Cover-up Posted April 9, 2014 Posted April 9, 2014 I got INNERSECTION W/D in a soul pack and was told by Rob Thomas it was disco shite but soul packs are a different story , sorry ! Has this thread been done? What's the best single you got in a soul pack? If not... does someone fancy starting one?! 1
Koolkat Posted April 10, 2014 Posted April 10, 2014 Bought a Joe Matthews......Aint Nothing You Can Do at the upstairs record bar at Wigan. Red issue. Thought it had been booted. ( I think there were 3 copies there, certainly more than one.) Think I paid 85p for it. Certainly under a quid. Lost it when I split up with a girlfriend and went off the scene raving on the house scene. Only years later did I think to enquire could it have been an original. On this site actually. Yes came back the answer, its never been booted on an issue. GRRRRRRRRR.
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