Guest Bearsoul Posted July 11, 2006 Posted July 11, 2006 (edited) Well folks this one as an example..Jeanne & The Vallamonts on Maximum 'Change My Destiny / Stepping Over Heartbreak'......listed in one of John Manships'old guides with FAKE ISSUE in bold print alongside..These questions may have been asked before 1 : Is this a genuine Artist / Artists ? 2: What is its' origin ? 3: What do you good folks think of it as a tune...production etc ? 4: If it's tailor- made for the market / scene should it be dismissed? Plenty of other examples i'm sure !! Lastly can anyone provide a sound-clip as I can't load MP3s at present Many Thanks Chris Morgan Edited July 11, 2006 by bearsoul
Bigsoulman Posted July 11, 2006 Posted July 11, 2006 Well folks this one as an example..Jeanne & The Vallamonts on Maximum 'Change My Destiny / Stepping Over Heartbreak'......listed in one of John Manships'old guides with FAKE ISSUE in bold print alongside..These questions may have been asked before 1 : Is this a genuine Artist / Artists ? 2: What is its' origin ? 3: What do you good folks think of it as a tune...production etc ? 4: If it's tailor- made for the market / scene should it be dismissed? Plenty of other examples i'm sure !! Lastly can anyone provide a sound-clip as I can't load MP3s at present Many Thanks Chris Morgan Will take pelters for this, but I happen to think Stepping Over Heartbreak is great , its obviously an Ian Levine effort and when I bought my copy about 5 years ago Steve Jeffries told me that Levine had about 5 or 6 singles out at the same time as this, although his name is not on it his sound is all over it, also Steve said it was from the Carolinas , hugely underrated record imo, and supposed to be in limited quantity, can't really remember the full story tho Lenny
Guest Bearsoul Posted July 11, 2006 Posted July 11, 2006 Will take pelters for this, but I happen to think Stepping Over Heartbreak is great , its obviously an Ian Levine effort and when I bought my copy about 5 years ago Steve Jeffries told me that Levine had about 5 or 6 singles out at the same time as this, although his name is not on it his sound is all over it, also Steve said it was from the Carolinas , hugely underrated record imo, and supposed to be in limited quantity, can't really remember the full story tho Lenny Cheers Lenny had a feeling it was Mr Levine and your not alone I think it's BLOODY GOOD Anyone else more details and a Sound-Clip please
Jo Law Posted July 11, 2006 Posted July 11, 2006 Chris sorry can not do sounds but i will bring you a copy to the greatstone on sat in exchange for a tape if thats ok-------------jo
Guest Bearsoul Posted July 11, 2006 Posted July 11, 2006 Chris sorry can not do sounds but i will bring you a copy to the greatstone on sat in exchange for a tape if thats ok-------------jo HI Jo...I've got a copy but thanks I'll do you a tape though. I can't do the MP3 thing right now but was keen to see what folks thought about this particular trak...and 'READY-MADES' in general
Eddie Hubbard Posted July 11, 2006 Posted July 11, 2006 Well folks this one as an example..Jeanne & The Vallamonts on Maximum 'Change My Destiny / Stepping Over Heartbreak'......listed in one of John Manships'old guides with FAKE ISSUE in bold print alongside..These questions may have been asked before 1 : Is this a genuine Artist / Artists ? 2: What is its' origin ? 3: What do you good folks think of it as a tune...production etc ? 4: If it's tailor- made for the market / scene should it be dismissed? Plenty of other examples i'm sure !! Lastly can anyone provide a sound-clip as I can't load MP3s at present Many Thanks Chris Morgan I really like " Change my destiny " as well Chris , If they're good enough then play them I say , I remember asking Ian if this was one of his productions and he denied it at the time .Wish he'd been more honest , though I guess he was trying to prove the point that he could make genuine records and get them played , a good record is a good record IMO , whoever produced it and whatever year is on the label .Best Wishes ,Eddie
Guest Bearsoul Posted July 11, 2006 Posted July 11, 2006 I really like " Change my destiny " as well Chris , If they're good enough then play them I say , I remember asking Ian if this was one of his productions and he denied it at the time .Wish he'd been more honest , though I guess he was trying to prove the point that he could make genuine records and get them played , a good record is a good record IMO , whoever produced it and whatever year is on the label .Best Wishes ,Eddie I agree Eddie.........if I play it though will I be chased out of Town
Phild Posted July 11, 2006 Posted July 11, 2006 I agree Eddie.........if I play it though will I be chased out of Town If you do you could always join me on "The Wrong Side Of Town". Cheers Phil
Guest Bearsoul Posted July 11, 2006 Posted July 11, 2006 If you do you could always join me on "The Wrong Side Of Town". Cheers Phil I BELIEVE I MIGHT HAVE TO PHIL IF I DO PLAY IT SIMON COWELL RATES IT LOOKING FORWARD TO JOINING YOU AT ' PRESENCE FM' ON 'THE RIGHT SIDE OF TOWN' !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! CHEERS CHRIS
Phild Posted July 11, 2006 Posted July 11, 2006 I BELIEVE I MIGHT HAVE TO PHIL IF I DO PLAY IT SIMON COWELL RATES IT LOOKING FORWARD TO JOINING YOU AT ' PRESENCE FM' ON 'THE RIGHT SIDE OF TOWN' !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! CHEERS CHRIS
Guest Bearsoul Posted July 11, 2006 Posted July 11, 2006 WHAT DO YOU THINK OF TUNES TAILOR-MADE THEN PHIL??
Guest Bearsoul Posted July 11, 2006 Posted July 11, 2006 STILL AFTER AN MP3 IF ANYONES GOT THIS TRACK..CHEERS
Phild Posted July 11, 2006 Posted July 11, 2006 WHAT DO YOU THINK OF TUNES TAILOR-MADE THEN PHIL?? Well I think that all tunes are tailor-made. Tailor-made for a particular market at a particular time. All the great, wonderful and varied music that we listen to on our scene were made with the soul (sic) intention of appealing to potential music buyers at that time. They were (mostly) not made just for our scene. So I don't have a problem with 'em. Good music is good music, and bad music is bad music. And it's all in the ear of the beholder anyway. I've got a tailor made that I did. I'll post it up one day. It's not northern or soul at all but does have northern roots, and sold 3000 copies in Benelux! Cheers Phil
Guest Bearsoul Posted July 11, 2006 Posted July 11, 2006 Well I think that all tunes are tailor-made. Tailor-made for a particular market at a particular time. All the great, wonderful and varied music that we listen to on our scene were made with the soul (sic) intention of appealing to potential music buyers at that time. They were (mostly) not made just for our scene. So I don't have a problem with 'em. Good music is good music, and bad music is bad music. And it's all in the ear of the beholder anyway. I've got a tailor made that I did. I'll post it up one day. It's not northern or soul at all but does have northern roots, and sold 3000 copies in Benelux! Cheers Phil I AGREE WITH YOUR OBSERVATIONS PHIL AND WOULD LIKE TO HEAR THE 'BENELUX' TUNE AS I LISTEN TO OTHER TYPES OF MUSIC....DARE I SAY IT
Wiganer1 Posted July 11, 2006 Posted July 11, 2006 I AGREE WITH YOUR OBSERVATIONS PHIL AND WOULD LIKE TO HEAR THE 'BENELUX' TUNE AS I LISTEN TO OTHER TYPES OF MUSIC....DARE I SAY IT ========= how do ian tailor mades of the 70's live up to today? lj johnson - dancing on the edge of a dream doris jones - hes so irreplaceable evelyn thomas - doomsday etc
Phild Posted July 11, 2006 Posted July 11, 2006 I AGREE WITH YOUR OBSERVATIONS PHIL AND WOULD LIKE TO HEAR THE 'BENELUX' TUNE AS I LISTEN TO OTHER TYPES OF MUSIC....DARE I SAY IT Here you go. Cheesy popcorn dance music. Note to moderator. Do not remove - this is my own copyrighted work. PhilBeat_Of_The_Year.mp3
Guest Bearsoul Posted July 11, 2006 Posted July 11, 2006 Here you go. Cheesy popcorn dance music. Note to moderator. Do not remove - this is my own copyrighted work. Phil THA'S BIZZARE PHIL
Guest Bearsoul Posted July 11, 2006 Posted July 11, 2006 I have about 300 12" of this left. Anyone? COULD SPAWN A WHOLE NEW OFF-SHOOT...DON'T KNOW WHAT OF THOUGH
Guest miff Posted July 11, 2006 Posted July 11, 2006 Here you go. Cheesy popcorn dance music. Note to moderator. Do not remove - this is my own copyrighted work. O my god Thats sliced tomatos again a'nt it, come back Fat boy slim all is forgiven Phil
Phild Posted July 11, 2006 Posted July 11, 2006 COULD SPAWN A WHOLE NEW OFF-SHOOT...DON'T KNOW WHAT OF THOUGH I'm working on a jungle vbersion of Gary Lewis & The Playboys as I write this And just finished a bhangra / grime version of Ain't No Soul Phil
Guest Bearsoul Posted July 11, 2006 Posted July 11, 2006 (edited) I'm working on a jungle vbersion of Gary Lewis & The Playboys as I write this And just finished a bhangra / grime version of Ain't No Soul Phil [/quote] DOES IAN KNOW YOUR BECOMING A THREAT IN THE PRODUCTION STAKES EH??? CAN'T WAIT FOR YOUR CHRISTMAS SINGLE Edited July 11, 2006 by bearsoul
Guest Posted July 11, 2006 Posted July 11, 2006 I have about 300 12" of this left. Anyone? Two bob each,you just might get rid of a couple,Phil
Guest Bearsoul Posted July 11, 2006 Posted July 11, 2006 Two bob each,you just might get rid of a couple,Phil TOP B-SIDE THOUGH KEN
Mark B Posted July 11, 2006 Posted July 11, 2006 I agree Eddie.........if I play it though will I be chased out of Town chris i have played it and alan pollard has played it think tony may also have played it at the greatstone. i like it good record and a good attempt for ian levine, same as eddie on this when i asked him he said it was not one of his. mark
Guest Bearsoul Posted July 11, 2006 Posted July 11, 2006 (edited) QUOTE(mark.b @ Jul 11 2006, 11:24 PM) link chris i have played it and alan pollard has played it think tony may also have played it at the greatstone. i like it good record and a good attempt for ian levine, same as eddie on this when i asked him he said it was not one of his. mark Edited July 11, 2006 by bearsoul
Mark B Posted July 11, 2006 Posted July 11, 2006 QUOTE(mark.b @ Jul 11 2006, 11:24 PM) link chris i have played it and alan pollard has played it think tony may also have played it at the greatstone. i like it good record and a good attempt for ian levine, same as eddie on this when i asked him he said it was not one of his. mark THOUGHT I'D HEARD IT OUT...BEGINNING TO THINK I WAS CRACKERS....DON'T ANSWER THAT........YOU GOT AN MP3 OF IT YOU CAN POST MARK? CHRIS no mark
Guest Bearsoul Posted July 11, 2006 Posted July 11, 2006 no mark [/quote] SOMEONE MUST KNOW THE ORIGIN OF IT COME ON FOLKS !!!!!!
Alan Pollard Posted July 12, 2006 Posted July 12, 2006 I was probably one of the first few people to own and play this record by Jeanne and The Vallamonts, I bought it off a very well known dealer for ALOT of hard earned cash and I mean ALOT considering how much it eventually became worth, I bought it about 7 maybe 8 years ago and I played alot in my sets and I still love the record immensley, it wasn't until one day I decided to play the b side "Steeping over heartbreak" that I realised that Ian Levine had something to do with it, this side has Ian Levines production stamped all over it whereas I don't personally think "Change my destiny" has any of Levine's trademark on it. I suppose part of collecting is making mistakes and I have made many but i consider this my biggest financial mistake but I wouldn't be without the recotrd I just wish the dealer had sold it me for the correct price. I still own the record although I don't feature it anymore in my sets but that is not because of the mystery surrounding it it's just that my set has moved on and anyone who knows me will know that I try a change my sets as much as I can. At one stage about 5 years ago I hit a raw nerve as I think I got pretty close to the truth behind where the record originated from but I can't discuss that anymore as the parties involved are on this forum and I had some rediculous threats made to me and all I really want to do is enjoy the music and if folk can't be honest about that then there's not much hope. So with that lets enjoy "Change my destiny" for what it is and that is it's a brilliant record regardless of where or who recorded, booted, produced, wrote or sang it. I know a few who will immediately disagree with this but I feel there judgement is clouded by who supposedly made it and there disliking of this person. Regards Alan
Guest Bearsoul Posted July 12, 2006 Posted July 12, 2006 (edited) I was probably one of the first few people to own and play this record by Jeanne and The Vallamonts, I bought it off a very well known dealer for ALOT of hard earned cash and I mean ALOT considering how much it eventually became worth, I bought it about 7 maybe 8 years ago and I played alot in my sets and I still love the record immensley, it wasn't until one day I decided to play the b side "Steeping over heartbreak" that I realised that Ian Levine had something to do with it, this side has Ian Levines production stamped all over it whereas I don't personally think "Change my destiny" has any of Levine's trademark on it. I suppose part of collecting is making mistakes and I have made many but i consider this my biggest financial mistake but I wouldn't be without the recotrd I just wish the dealer had sold it me for the correct price. I still own the record although I don't feature it anymore in my sets but that is not because of the mystery surrounding it it's just that my set has moved on and anyone who knows me will know that I try a change my sets as much as I can. At one stage about 5 years ago I hit a raw nerve as I think I got pretty close to the truth behind where the record originated from but I can't discuss that anymore as the parties involved are on this forum and I had some rediculous threats made to me and all I really want to do is enjoy the music and if folk can't be honest about that then there's not much hope. So with that lets enjoy "Change my destiny" for what it is and that is it's a brilliant record regardless of where or who recorded, booted, produced, wrote or sang it. I know a few who will immediately disagree with this but I feel there judgement is clouded by who supposedly made it and there disliking of this person. Regards Alan CHEERS ALAN...THANKYOU, I RECKON THAT'S AS CLOSE AS WE'RE GOING TO GET ON THIS ONE..THINK IT'S A TOP RECORD TOO !!! CHRIS M Edited July 12, 2006 by bearsoul
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