One Show BBC

[Guest gordon russell]

 ,not my finest post.(over 18 being as you asked.)

.....stone?

[Pete S]

I never mind these TV features, the only thing that bugs me about them is the way we're portrayed as never having evolved since the 70's, we never stopped wearing baggy trousers when the rest of the world did, and we still listen to the same 5 records all the time and wear lots of badges.  Remove that aspect, I quite enjoy them.  Nice kids too.

[Len]

Having slept on the one show performance last night I think the following: I'm not one of those people who think the soul scene needs to remain underground, so the publicity concept in general doesn't worry me. What does piss me off however, is the lack of dignity that these sorts of programmes generate. Why do the presenters feel the need to 'dress up', the vast majority of the people on the scene don't bother, it's NOT at all representative so why portray it that way? We become clown like figures, when all we're out doing is enjoying ourselves. I thought from start to finish the show was awful and did exactly what I expected, dumbed down the northern scene so as to make it a piece of watchable television. The depth of knowledge, love and integrity that the northern scene possesses, never came through for me, it's not that a programme couldn't capture it, they just can't be asked. Thumbs down from me!!

 

I was at a 50^th Birthday Party last weekend and my sister introduced me to this bloke (He was someone who was going through his ‘Modlife Crisis’)……Because he had a Scooter, she told him I was into ‘Northern Soul’, he said……”Great, put a bit of the ol’ talk down!”……then proceeded to do a ‘twist’ like dance c/w a stupid grin on his face…..I’m that close to completely giving up going out now - This show has bought me even closer; I don’t want to be associated with it anymore.

 

Although I would love to say I don’t care anymore - it kinda saddens me…….

 

All the best,

 

Len

Edited March 27, 2014 by LEN

[Winnie :-)]

I never mind these TV features, the only thing that bugs me about them is the way we're portrayed as never having evolved since the 70's, we never stopped wearing baggy trousers when the rest of the world did, and we still listen to the same 5 records all the time and wear lots of badges.  Remove that aspect, I quite enjoy them.  Nice kids too.

Pete, honestly mate I'm struggling to see what bits you'd have enjoyed, the records they played showed nothing of the current scene, neither did the clothes. Anybody who goes, or posts on here or other sites knows there's humour and intelligence, where did they capture that? Not having a go, if you enjoyed it fair enough, but I'd rather people were visiting/coming onto the soul scene to find out what it's all about, not in the hope to have a cheap laugh at the expense of all those who really enjoy it. Yeah the kids were gooduns, but so are most of the rest of the community. I truly hope it doesn't have a damaging effect on the film. 

[Winnie :-)]

I was at a 50^th Birthday Party last weekend and my sister introduced me to this bloke (He was someone who was going through his ‘Modlife Crisis’)……Because he had a Scooter, she told him I was into ‘Northern Soul’, he said……”Great, put a bit of the ol’ talk down!”……then proceeded to do a ‘twist’ like dance c/w a stupid grin on his face…..I’m that close to completely giving up going out now - This show has bought me even closer; I don’t want to be associated with it anymore.

 

Although I would love to say I don’t care anymore - it kinda saddens me…….

 

All the best,

 

Len

Jackie said to me yesterday, what do I say when people ask me if I'm like that when I go out. I just said say no, no point in giving explanations or excuses it's only a small part of life 

[Pete S]

Pete, honestly mate I'm struggling to see what bits you'd have enjoyed, the records they played showed nothing of the current scene, neither did the clothes. Anybody who goes, or posts on here or other sites knows there's humour and intelligence, where did they capture that? Not having a go, if you enjoyed it fair enough, but I'd rather people were visiting/coming onto the soul scene to find out what it's all about, not in the hope to have a cheap laugh at the expense of all those who really enjoy it. Yeah the kids were gooduns, but so are most of the rest of the community. I truly hope it doesn't have a damaging effect on the film. 

 

There was one shot of everyone dancing it gave me chills, it always does, seeing really good dancers actually dancing and not throwing themselves around, thats what I enjoy.  Always nice to see Lisa Stansfield too.

[Simsy]

Only thing that wasn't painfully cringe worthy for me on the One Show was the film clip. Lisa Stansfield's Northern number was shocking.

[Len]

The young kids wearing 70’s clothes seems bizarre to me - After the 70’s lot, the 80’s lot developed into something different, and that ‘change’ kind of carried on right through the 90’s, until early 2000 (when it all went wrong) Maybe these people only have the ‘where it all went wrong’ decade to be their influence (Shame, but makes sense)

 

It’s just an observation, and they are probably nice people, but if there was a load of young people taking it all forward, I would have loved them to be really sharply dressed, maybe a bit 80’s influenced, but most importantly something of their own, doing it their way - What happened to the Ivy League College Boy look?

 

No offence intended to these younguns, and I welcome them onto the Scene - I just think they are missing out on the ‘magic’ that they could get from doing it their way. Maybe in time, they will.

 

All the best,

 

Len

 

P.s - 'Positive Alison' - I'm watching you........    

[Jnixon]

Pete, honestly mate I'm struggling to see what bits you'd have enjoyed, the records they played showed nothing of the current scene, neither did the clothes. Anybody who goes, or posts on here or other sites knows there's humour and intelligence, where did they capture that? Not having a go, if you enjoyed it fair enough, but I'd rather people were visiting/coming onto the soul scene to find out what it's all about, not in the hope to have a cheap laugh at the expense of all those who really enjoy it. Yeah the kids were gooduns, but so are most of the rest of the community. I truly hope it doesn't have a damaging effect on the film. 

 

i genuinely think that you guys expect far too much when tv gets involved at looking at your youth, which is essentially what is going in here.

 

tea time type tv is never going to have an in depth view on anything however what they did cover, like it or not, was the fact its is still going on today 40+ years on and they took a nice mother son angle. showed some kids who are into it although some might say they looked liked fashion victims and promoted the film so what more can you ask for. 

 

kids looking at that will think wow that looks cool or think nothing at all. any promotion of the film is good so i cant see how it will damage. 

 

these type of things may be made about 'your background' but they are not made 'for you'. 

[Guest MBarrett]

stylish?? more fancy dress than Mr benns shop.

 

I wasn't referring to everyone. There's a way to wear retro gear and still look stylish. I don't know who the young lady was with the mop of hair and the red Brutus (?) shirt. I'd make someone like that the "Poster Girl" of New Wave Northern Soul.

[Pete S]

I wasn't referring to everyone. There's a way to wear retro gear and still look stylish. I don't know who the young lady was with the mop of hair and the red Brutus (?) shirt. I'd make someone like that the "Poster Girl" of New Wave Northern Soul.

 

She was a fabulous dancer

[Stevie T]

the more people laugh , the less intervene ! , so keep the shows coming   

[Mr Soul]

it was great,incoming

[Liam2005]

Chaps! Ladies!

 

Well what we feared is what we got. A total crock of sh*te, it was so painful and sad that it has come to this. The scene which we all loved and worked at either by promoting, djing, collecting, dancing and making lifelong friends over years has come to this on the Telly. What really annoyed me was the media wh*res and people we all know from the scene dancing away looking like total prats. Some of these people moan like mad when off the street people come and dance at venues, total hypocrites. They should have more respect for themselves but i do understand its a free world and all that. Geez i'm gonna have to restart the Capitol Soul Club and get things back to some kinda respectfulness lol.

 

ps I dancde in Levis, Brouges and a brutus etc for years, thats where i must of being going wrong....doh! F*cking rent a tent trousers and a stick on badge.....right i gotta stop now before i start smashing the keyboard in a karate style

 

Greg

[Pete S]

Chaps! Ladies!

 

Well what we feared is what we got. A total crock of sh*te, it was so painful and sad that it has come to this. The scene which we all loved and worked at either by promoting, djing, collecting, dancing and making lifelong friends over years has come to this on the Telly. What really annoyed me was the media wh*res and people we all know from the scene dancing away looking like total prats. Some of these people moan like mad when off the street people come and dance at venues, total hypocrites. They should have more respect for themselves but i do understand its a free world and all that. Geez i'm gonna have to restart the Capitol Soul Club and get things back to some kinda respectfulness lol.

 

ps I dancde in Levis, Brouges and a brutus etc for years, thats where i must of being going wrong....doh! F*cking rent a tent trousers and a stick on badge.....right i gotta stop now before i start smashing the keyboard in a karate style

 

Greg

 

Of course it's wrong Greg, don't you realise that without those clown trousers, you won't be able to do any 'floor work'?

[Guest lofthope]

To be honest, I thought the One Show was fairly decent coverage last night. OK the presenters dressing up looked a bit cheesy, not everyone featured was that cool and the reporter who visited Brighouse was poor, but overall I thought it was OK.

So, was it a positive for the scene or a negative? I agree with an earlier poster that if it generates new soulies, especially younger ones, then it is a good thing.

However, in the unlikely event that the scene gets swamped with John Travolta wannbies in the way that the Jazz Funk scene got watered down in the late 70s then it could, of course, spoil it. I have never forgiven Saturday Night Fever for ruining the southern Jazz Funk scene.

But let's keep a sense of proportion here. One appearance on the One Show is not going to mean tens of thousands of people are going to swamp the scene overnight is it? Some young kids may buy in to it, but not a whole generation. Unlike Saturday Night Fever, today's broadcasts reflect retro rather than contemporary culture, it will not appeal to everyone. Meanwhile, some older soulies who have lost touch with the scene may be inspired to get involved again, which isn't a bad thing.

I think overall the One Show it was a good thing, and of course, we have seen it done badly so many times that I can understand the trepidation beforehand. Moreover, this was a plug for the film, as so often on our State TV station which doesn't have adverts,...features are effectively adverts for books, songs, movements or films. The film is good and it is authentic, so ultimately a fair reflection of the scene is what will be delivered to anyone who buys in to what was broadcast last night and goes and watches the film.

I give the BBC 6 out of 10....glass half full for me....it's a teaser for the film and the film is something we can be proud of.

[Guest MBarrett]

She was a fabulous dancer

 

100%. Anyone who couldn't see that is blind. You look at some of those vibrant young kids. And the beautiful and articulate Levanna. Those are the bits I'm remembering. I've forgotten the rest.

[Guest gordon russell]

I thought   NEIL    LaBeat   on here was  gonna be on this show?.........where were ya mate?

[Amsterdam Russ]

Just watched the programme. Well, skipped through to the 'Northern' bits. I have to say I'm quite shocked, not by the coverage give to the Northern Soul scene (which was horribly patronising to so the least), but by the standard of British television. Has it really become this bad?

 

I gave up telly about 10 years ago because I thought that 90% of it was crap. At home we still watch programmes via the computer and on DVD  - The Wire, Walking Dead, etc, - but I've not seen one of these domestic light entertainment shows for a good decade.

 

It was horrible. The presenters are using the sort of slow speaking tone and adopting the type of attitude you might use if you were giving a talk to a class full of educationally challenged 8-year olds, and even then they still managed to come across as being incredibly patronising. Good Lord. People still pay a TV licence for this sort of thing?

 

Most of the 'Northern' segments had me cringing. "Go on then Tom/Dick/Harry, show us your special trick!" (Oooh, aaah. Isn't he/she good, ladies and gentlemen?).

 

It reminded me of old style holiday camp talent shows...

 

"And here's Charlie from Scunthorpe, and he's got really knobbly knees. Show the people your knees, Charlie! Ooh, aren't they knobbly? Let's all give a big hand to Charlie from Scunthorpe. Now, who have we got next? Oh, here's Martha from Manchester. She's going to sing us a song, aren't you Martha?"

 

I'm sure the people who participated enjoyed themselves immensely, and I'm sure it was great fun to be there. Good luck to them. It's the stuff of memories if you were there.

 

For this viewer though, sadly all the programme did was to reinforce terrible cliches about the Northern Soul scene and carve into stone the scenes supposed retro dress code. More than that, it actually presented it as a retro scene, one which looks back to the dress styles and youthful exploits of soul boys and girls of the early 1970s. 

 

Beyond that, what's up with Lisa Stansfield's nostrils? For a moment I thought I was seeing the ghost of Kenneth Williams!

[Alison H]

The young kids wearing 70’s clothes seems bizarre to me - After the 70’s lot, the 80’s lot developed into something different, and that ‘change’ kind of carried on right through the 90’s, until early 2000 (when it all went wrong) Maybe these people only have the ‘where it all went wrong’ decade to be their influence (Shame, but makes sense)

 

It’s just an observation, and they are probably nice people, but if there was a load of young people taking it all forward, I would have loved them to be really sharply dressed, maybe a bit 80’s influenced, but most importantly something of their own, doing it their way - What happened to the Ivy League College Boy look?

 

No offence intended to these younguns, and I welcome them onto the Scene - I just think they are missing out on the ‘magic’ that they could get from doing it their way. Maybe in time, they will.

 

All the best,

 

Len

 

P.s - 'Positive Alison' - I'm watching you........    

:lol: bog off Len. I actually said on another thread (can't remember which one) that I hate the majority of the scene at the moment, but my reasons for disliking it are my own personal reasons, & it's not for me to take the pxss (especially if it gets personal) or advise others they are wrong (& I am right) for the way they choose to embrace soul music.

We're going over old ground here, again, but there are two "main" scenes as we all know, let them enjoy theirs, & stop worrying about ours.

Regards

Ali

[Alison H]

i genuinely think that you guys expect far too much when tv gets involved at looking at your youth, which is essentially what is going in here.

 

tea time type tv is never going to have an in depth view on anything however what they did cover, like it or not, was the fact its is still going on today 40+ years on and they took a nice mother son angle. showed some kids who are into it although some might say they looked liked fashion victims and promoted the film so what more can you ask for. 

 

kids looking at that will think wow that looks cool or think nothing at all. any promotion of the film is good so i cant see how it will damage. 

 

these type of things may be made about 'your background' but they are not made 'for you'.

Post of the century

Well put

[Chalky]

She was a fabulous dancer

 

Mick Fitzpatrick's daughter Lauren.  Think she has modelled for levi, fred perry etc.  She was runner up to the world champion northern soul dancer.

[Pete S]

Mick Fitzpatrick's daughter Lauren.  Think she has modelled for levi, fred perry etc.  She was runner up to the world champion northern soul dancer.

 

I thought Mick's kids were black!  His wife is.

[Chalky]

I thought Mick's kids were black!  His wife is.

 

the mop of hair,, the girl with the afro?  If so it is Mick's daughter. 

Edited March 27, 2014 by chalky

[Wiganer1]

The young kids wearing 70’s clothes seems bizarre to me - After the 70’s lot, the 80’s lot developed into something different, and that ‘change’ kind of carried on right through the 90’s, until early 2000 (when it all went wrong) Maybe these people only have the ‘where it all went wrong’ decade to be their influence (Shame, but makes sense)

 

It’s just an observation, and they are probably nice people, but if there was a load of young people taking it all forward, I would have loved them to be really sharply dressed, maybe a bit 80’s influenced, but most importantly something of their own, doing it their way - What happened to the Ivy League College Boy look?

 

No offence intended to these younguns, and I welcome them onto the Scene - I just think they are missing out on the ‘magic’ that they could get from doing it their way. Maybe in time, they will.

 

All the best,

 

Len

 

P.s - 'Positive Alison' - I'm watching you........    

hey  =- id be a bit worrried if the dressed in the same snorkel coat i used to wear !!!

 

check end of leicester 2nd anniversary video...

[Pete S]

the mop of hair,, the girl with the afro?  If so it is Mick's daughter. 

 

Righto, I'm sure we're talking about the same girl.  They all came round my house once, blimey that must be 15 years ago, no wonder I never recognised her

[viphitman]

Can someone please load up a video on youtube or whatever so that we can watch it in europe

[Quinvy]

The thing that worries me about the youngsters is, they aren't getting into it for the same reasons that we did.

 

Soulboy the new Teddy Boy?

[Scal]

I thought it was brilliant, 

 

I had an idea that Northern was dead.....long live "Oedipus Soul"!

 

Can't wait until the next edition of Blue Peter, they are going to show how to turn those old Tommy Hunt records into that discreet bowling shirt accessory/ badge that Matt 'Shy Guy' Baker was sporting.......

 

."ON HER  WAY TO WORK ONE MORNING, DOWN THE PATH ALONGSIDE THE BEEB......."  

 

Tripe On Now, Keep The Taste(less)!

[Markw]

Chaps! Ladies!

 

Well what we feared is what we got. A total crock of sh*te, it was so painful and sad that it has come to this. The scene which we all loved and worked at either by promoting, djing, collecting, dancing and making lifelong friends over years has come to this on the Telly. What really annoyed me was the media wh*res and people we all know from the scene dancing away looking like total prats. Some of these people moan like mad when off the street people come and dance at venues, total hypocrites. They should have more respect for themselves but i do understand its a free world and all that. Geez i'm gonna have to restart the Capitol Soul Club and get things back to some kinda respectfulness lol.

 

ps I dancde in Levis, Brouges and a brutus etc for years, thats where i must of being going wrong....doh! F*cking rent a tent trousers and a stick on badge.....right i gotta stop now before i start smashing the keyboard in a karate style

 

Greg

Do it Greg, do it now!!

[Guest BAKUNIN]

Much as they try to emphasise the point this stuff is NOT about the actual soul music at all really is it.?     .its more to do with all the superfluous  crap that surrounds it...I only enjoy these programs with my eyes shut.....Lorraine Chandler...good tune.

Edited March 27, 2014 by BAKUNIN

[Guest Dave Turner]

Waited for the missus to go out this morning, chucked the dog outside just in case it was what I expected. As soon as I saw that presenter in that shite tacky black fist "Northern Soul - Keep The Faith" badge my fears were confirmed, yup the same badge that was on the side of the record box and the front of the decks FFS ... just so naff

 

Very rarely venture out nowadays, especially to oldies do's because in general from what I've experienced they're a parody, a comic dress up imitation of a once great scene.

 

In 5 minutes I heard perhaps the three most irritating words I keep fookin' hearing lately

 

Wigan, if that was all be all and end all of the once "Northern Scene" and especially hate hearing how good it was from those that never went.

 

Soulies ... grates on me, never been a soulie and never will be a soulie

 

Movement ... as Dave Rimmer mentioned in another thread, I've never belonged to a "Northern Soul Movement" either

 

I like to think all of this wouldn't irritate me anymore, so why does it. I suppose it's because I remember belonging to a "Northern Scene" that was cool, elitist, under the radar, looked after itself needing no outside publicity instead of this parody of what it was supposed to have been. 

Edited March 27, 2014 by Dave Turner

[Guest BAKUNIN]

Waited for the missus to go out this morning, chucked the dog outside just in case it was what I expected. As soon as I saw that presenter in that shite tacky black fist "Northern Soul - Keep The Faith" badge my fears were confirmed, yup the same badge that was on the side of the record box and the front of the decks FFS ... just so naff

 

Very rarely venture out nowadays, especially to oldies do's because in general from what I've experienced they're a parody, a comic dress up imitation of a once great scene.

 

In 5 minutes I heard perhaps the three most irritating words I keep fookin' hearing lately

 

Wigan, if that was all be all and end all of the once "Northern Scene" and especially hate hearing how good it was from those that never went.

 

Soulies ... grates on me, never been a soulie and never will be a soulie

 

Movement ... as Dave Rimmer mentioned in another thread, I've never belonged to a "Northern Soul Movement" either

 

I like to think all of this doesn't irritate me anymore, so why does it. I suppose it's because I remember belonging to a "Northern Scene" that was cool, elitist, under the radar, looked after itself needing no outside publicity instead of this parody of what it was supposed to have been. 

 

Waited for the missus to go out this morning, chucked the dog outside just in case it was what I expected. As soon as I saw that presenter in that shite tacky black fist "Northern Soul - Keep The Faith" badge my fears were confirmed, yup the same badge that was on the side of the record box and the front of the decks FFS ... just so naff

 

Very rarely venture out nowadays, especially to oldies do's because in general from what I've experienced they're a parody, a comic dress up imitation of a once great scene.

 

In 5 minutes I heard perhaps the three most irritating words I keep fookin' hearing lately

 

Wigan, if that was all be all and end all of the once "Northern Scene" and especially hate hearing how good it was from those that never went.

 

Soulies ... grates on me, never been a soulie and never will be a soulie

 

Movement ... as Dave Rimmer mentioned in another thread, I've never belonged to a "Northern Soul Movement" either

 

I like to think all of this doesn't irritate me anymore, so why does it. I suppose it's because I remember belonging to a "Northern Scene" that was cool, elitist, under the radar, looked after itself needing no outside publicity instead of this parody of what it was supposed to have been. 

Bang on pal.

ROB

[Winnie :-)]

I wasn't referring to everyone. There's a way to wear retro gear and still look stylish. I don't know who the young lady was with the mop of hair and the red Brutus (?) shirt. I'd make someone like that the "Poster Girl" of New Wave Northern Soul.

I don't know her personally, but I think you're referring to Mick Fitzpatrick's daughter, and yes she's a great dancer

[Guest lofthope]

Never mind Baggy Trousers, some seem to want the scene to be so underground that Pot-Holing equipment will have to become the 'uniform'. Most of us joined in because it was fun....what happened so some of you along the way?

 

In the mid 1970s I recall older people (than me) saying that the kids were ruining the scene, then the late 70s mod revivalists were (apparently) ruining it.....BOTH INFLUXES HELPED IT SURVIVE! I'm all for a bit of publicity aimed at outsiders, so long as it isn't a full scale Saatchi style marketing campaign.

[Guest]

Well done to the muppets going on the BBC's one show last night They were ripping the piss out of you the scene is fucked whoever is the last to leave please turn out the lights.

[Guest Bearsy]

100%. Anyone who couldn't see that is blind. You look at some of those vibrant young kids. And the beautiful and articulate Levanna. Those are the bits I'm remembering. I've forgotten the rest.

 

I agree but wasn't it meant to be about promoting the Film yet many have forgotten about that already.  

[Spanner]

Wicked show nice to see young blood coming on  the scene

[Guest BAKUNIN]

"Less is more" appears to be a concept beyond the reach of some people.

[KevH]

I'm tending to blame Steve L for this.

[Len]

Do it Greg, do it now!!

 

It's a nice idea - But you should never go back.

 

.....I fear we are now flogging a dead horse.

 

All the best,

 

Len  

[Guest penny]

So anybody got anything good to say about it then ?

I always try to look on the positive side, so while Northern is officially less cool than ballroom dancing, it's still cooler than tegestology.

[Guest MBarrett]

It's moan, moan, moan, about the media. It's wait, wait, wait for the film. Has nobody noticed that WE are the new media. Potential audience for the One Show. The low millions. Potential audience for You Tube a billion and counting. (Oh yes, Levanna noticed. Good on her.)

 

Just needs a young passionate film maker (degree student no probs) to make the history of Rare/Northern soul in 6 half hour episodes - a collaborative venture with Soul Source and its members. Made for You Tube.

 

There is a Poll facility on this forum. Members could decide democratically what music to include, what DJ's, collectors, dancers, punters should be interviewed, what questions to ask, what venues to include, blahdy blahdy blah.

 

There is a members only section. Put initial filming up for comment and critique of members before final edit is decided on.

 

I know . . . . all sounds too much like hard work.

 

Let's just keep moaning and waiting.

[Godzilla]

... a collaborative venture with Soul Source and its members...

 

Sounds reasonable in principle but is there a single thing that we all agree on?

[Guest MBarrett]

Sounds reasonable in principle but is there a single thing that we all agree on?

 

It doesn't matter though does it. You get an initial list, you put it in a poll, and most votes wins.

 

It won't be perfect but it will be as perfect as it will ever get.

[Guest Trevski]

Can someone please load up a video on youtube or whatever so that we can watch it in europe

This s what we all should be wearing. ..

[Winnie :-)]

i genuinely think that you guys expect far too much when tv gets involved at looking at your youth, which is essentially what is going in here.

 

tea time type tv is never going to have an in depth view on anything however what they did cover, like it or not, was the fact its is still going on today 40+ years on and they took a nice mother son angle. showed some kids who are into it although some might say they looked liked fashion victims and promoted the film so what more can you ask for. 

 

kids looking at that will think wow that looks cool or think nothing at all. any promotion of the film is good so i cant see how it will damage. 

 

these type of things may be made about 'your background' but they are not made 'for you'. 

I'm not sure I or anyone else expects too much. I watched the programme with an open mind and have taken into account comments I've seen on this thread and on facebook in my initial summation of the programme.

 

I don't see how last night's programme benefits the film at all, I can't really see how younger kids watching will think it was cool to be honest, perhaps if it was only the 'young souls' being interviewed or dancing they may have formed an affinity, but with older folk? That's not really happened before, and can't for the life of me see why it would happen now. Old always has and always will be uncool. 

 

I've read and written comments equating what's currently happening with the 'boom' period of the mid seventies but there are major differences to my mind. However many people top of the pops reached in those days, it's still only a fraction of those being reached now via the internet. In the seventies it was a genuine youth movement, we weren't being asked or expected to fraternise with 50 year olds, so there was no real danger of being judged, we were the ones forging the scene. The programme for me, didn't make that clear enough, yes there were references to Wigan, hence vests and bags, but they weren't representative of a growing scene. All they were were the current fashions of the day. And whilst we're on that topic why wear bags and a vest but complete the look with trainers, that's not very authentic is it. Not that that particularly worries me, but where was the community spirit? All of us have probably met friends that have been with us through the 40 or so years we've been part of the scene, does anyone think that came across. Did the music played show the northern scene in it's best light. Nearly every one of these programmes plays the same hackneyed music, does anyone think that's a representation even of the top 500 scene. There are 500 in that list, pick something else from it FFS. Why do the presenters feel the need to get 'togged' up in bags etc, do the majority of those of us still going wear them? 

 

I don't expect much, I realise it's made for TV but at least be accurate, or as a programme maker you're always going to get a backlash!! 

[Winnie :-)]

Mick Fitzpatrick's daughter Lauren.  Think she has modelled for levi, fred perry etc.  She was runner up to the world champion northern soul dancer.

And in my opinion better 

[Sikirby]

Forgive me, i don't wish to offend or sound condescending but I'm quite sure that the last couple or so years at the Casino (or any other venue) next to no one wore flairs, Spencer's had started to sell Pegs and Bowie trousers, and the then progressive scene was moving in tandem with the rest of the youth population of the UK on the fashion front, so why oh why are people trying to turn back the hands of time to an era that has long since departed. I had no problem in the transformation from dancing in flairs to pegs just like hundred others, I know its each to their own, but loving,enjoying and dancing to the music is one thing, living in a time warp is quite another!!!

[Dave Rimmer]

 

In the seventies it was a genuine youth movement,

 

It never was, never has been, and never will be a 'Movement'. That's what I have when i go for a s*it in a morning !