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Guest Carl Dixon
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What happened to So#@ty.Wasn't the mystique of this music that you had to go and find it..and that it didn't come to you.There seems to be quite a few zealots who think that it will disintegrate if we don't encourage 12 year old in their dad's clothing from Jan 11 th 1976 to take it over.The real cool kids are forging their own unique take on it collecting rare original records and have their own smart clothing style.Meanwhile the kids that are lauded in the UK are copying a style from the seventies.Just like Mud and Showaddywaddy were a grotesque parody of the fifties.

The best tv pieces were Morecambe...proper deejays John Vincent and Searling talking about the music...Bobby Herb You Want To Change Me.I Still Remember The Feeling...Whistle Test...Ady about finding records...Magic Touch etc.These people should be contacting Mick H,John Poole,Ted Massey and some of the proper young deejays Pogson,Maslin or even for a European slant Marc Forest or Matt Fox.

I saw that Richrad Searling piece back in the 1980's. My God, it took me over 20 years to find that Bobby Hebb track. I sang it to somebody in Milton Keynes market after that programme aired and he said it was Bobby Hebb. That was my mission to find it. I ended up buying an LP of Bobby Hebb's in New York hoping it was on there and it wasn't. Plus that Barbara Lewis track 'I remember the feeling'! Fantastic. I used that as a template for 'Spyders 'Tell me (crying over you'). I liked the set up of the song and worked out the bars/construction , then wrote around that. Chorus first, first verse etc. And 'Tell me's' opening drums....the same as 'Stay close to me'! This music is addictive.

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Guest Krissii
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"...there are sussed,smart young kids doing it in their own way ....who are passionate about collecting and deejaying new discoveries in their own way...

And dancing Wiggy ? Don't forget dancing

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"New discoveries".....are they on a par with Merv Griffin or whatever?

"Dee-jaying in their own way".....how is that with a 6 inch needle for their 78's?

No wonder the BBC love them.....fits in with all their COSTUME DRAMAS!

Pant(omime) season all year round now!

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If there's any "Disgusted of Tunbridge Wells" types on here you'll be able to air your opinion on Points of View and complain about the waste of licence payers money after the show.

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Disgusted of Tunbridge Wells....is that a DJ?

Even an old buffer like me knows that "Points Of View" was a big record back in the day.

Or am I just trying to make a point?

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i wonder how many twirlie skirts and big stupid pants were out on friday at brighouse..... :facepalm:

"‹"same old!,same old!" comments,wear what you are comfortable in. ENJOY that's what it's about.

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"New discoveries".....are they on a par with Merv Griffin or whatever?"Dee-jaying in their own way".....how is that with a 6 inch needle for their 78's?No wonder the BBC love them.....fits in with all their COSTUME DRAMAS!Pant(omime) season all year round now!

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I'll stick with Downton Abbey...you are not aware of the other non baggy non oldies scene the cool youngsters are involved in.Not to be confused with the English baggy youngsters.

Guest Byrney
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Spot on Smithers. Pete and Sue are beyond criticism. Paul Mason was the guilty culprit, a media whore without a foot to dance on. Now we have another media nobody trying to drag Northern Soul into the open where it does not belong. Shame on any show-offs for even contemplating this prat-fest. Once upon a time, the BBC was a fine institution - now it has become a lazy, corrupt, self-serving shambles not worth the license fee. Do the dancers have the conscience to boycott the One Show - I would like to believe so but I very much doubt it?

I don't know the young ones who are stomping their way down to BBC studios or Pete and Sue. But how can one set be beyond criticism for appearing on a show that it could be argued was trying to drag Northern into the open whereas the others for doing much the same should hang their head in shame. Seems a bit one rule for one to me. Personally I don't have high hopes for this but I will watch (clutching a cushion) so let's see.

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A QUICK UPDATE......I HAVE READ THE RESPONSES AND FULLY UNDERSTAND EACH AND EVERY ONE........SOME BACKGROUND TO HOW THIS CAME ABOUT IS THE ONE SHOW ARE RUNNING SOMETHING ON WEDNESDAY AND WANT A LINK TO 'NORTHERN SOUL' ........MY FRIEND WORKS AS THE FLOOR MANAGER FOR THE SHOW AND ASKED ME TO HELP OUT WITH GETTING SOME DANCERS TOGETHER FOR THIS AND FOR ME TO PLAY SOME NORTHERN SOUL.........TRUST ME, I WILL NOT HAVE ANY AL WILSON/FRANK WILSON ET AL IN MY RECORD BOX.......WHAT I WANT TO PLAY IS NORTHERN SOUL WHICH WHEN I FIRST HEARD IN THE 80'S AND THOUGHT, "OH MY GOD, THIS IS BRILLIANT!! WHAT IS THIS?" ETC ETC........NOW, I KNOW WE ALL HAVE OUR FAVOURITE SOUNDS AND INDEED 'GENRES' OF NORTHERN SOUL BUT YOU KNOW, UPTEMPO, SOULFUL, ENVIGORATING ETC ETC.........THAT'S ALL I CAN DO AND I WILL PUSH FOR THIS JUST AS MUCH AS I CAN.........AN ANALAGY NOW.........I LOVE AMERICA, I LOVE 'REAL' AMERICA, NOT THE AMERICA THAT WE SEE ON TV HOLIDAY/ROAD TRIP TYPE PROGRAMMES ALL THE TIME HERE IE NEW YORK, ORLANDO, MIAMI, LA, ROUTE 66 ETC.......THAT AMERICA LEAVES ME COLD BUT I ACCEPT THAT IT IS SHOWN FOR THE 'MASSES'........WHO KNOWS IF IT'S RIGHT OR WRONG BUT I WILL DO MY BEST AND ANYONE WHO KNOWS ME WILL KNOW WHAT RECORDS THAT I HAVE GOT AND PLAY.........CHEERS, SIMON PENFOLD

 

You missed a perfect opportunity to tell your mate to knob off . The Northern soul scene has never needed publicity and never will as someone that claims to know the soul scene I would have thought you would know that .

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Guest Carl Dixon
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I was chatting to somebody at work yesterday about exposure, whether needed or not back in the day for this music. And I said I would never have known anything about 'Northern Soul' as the term did not exist in Hull until about 1975 and that's only because I knew some people who drove to Wigan for the all nighters there on Saturdays every so often. They came back with the stories and the term.

 

As for being a commercial entity at the time or needing publicity I guess it was and did. I did some research and found these adverts in various papers/magazines that clearly show there was a financial consideration or contract made to advertise soul music at certain venues. You may have to scroll down..but just look at the dates...amazingly early on. In fact it's almost the same as today, except without the Internet being involved. 

 

https://enlightenmentblues.wordpress.com/2010/09/11/blues-soul-magazine-no-143-sept-10-—-23-1974/

 

https://www.ebay.co.uk/bhp/wigan-casino-posters

 

https://martinsbox.tripod.com/id21.htm

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