£500 Vs £5 Or £10 Vs£1000

[steve z]

You do not know the "going rate" !Do you want the record and then stop....when you become aware of its price ,or try and obtain a copy?ATB Stevie z

[Soul-slider]

You do not know the "going rate" !Do you want the record and then stop....when you become aware of its price ,or try and obtain a copy?ATB Stevie z

Personally, if it's cash only we're talking about I'd stop if it was more than, say £100. Unless trades were involved then i'll stretch...£300ish

[Simon T]

I think the answer depends on why you want the record, to some degree; is it all time top want, label filler, ‘current must have’ for a busy DJ, one of those you’ve meaning to buy for the last 20 years but never got around to, etc, etc.

Personally my wants list consists of about half a dozen records I must have before I pop my clogs, and then several thousand “would like to have” but not that really bothered one way or the other. If it’s one of the few ‘must haves’, then I must have been looking for them for decades, and would go well over the odds to get it in the end. However, so would a few other hundred vinyl junkies too!

The ‘would like to have’ ones are the real problem in recent times; basically they all fall into the same scenario, i.e. in my mind it’s a £10 record, with inflation and current demand for vinyl I’d expect it to be £10-£15 (would consider paying that for it), but they’re all at sale at £100! (Interesting to know the true turn over rate of record now days.) Then you see it for sale at £50 and I think ah!, that’s half price, but really I know it’s 3 to 5 times what it’s worth to me, and so I think sod it I ain’t forking out over the odds for a record that’s just gonna sit on a shelf because from a nostalgic point of view over the last 20 + years, I’ve convinced myself that I really need one. They’re the ones that have made me a bit jaded with collecting over the last couple of years.

Always thought if a won a few million on the lottery that I would go out and buy thousand and thousands regardless of their asking price, fill the SUV with £50 notes and head of to ‘Pork Pie Land’, but in reality I’d now probably come back with a few ridiculously over-priced bits of plastic and play them till they were worn out and would have thoroughly enjoyed owning them at long last. (Plus every known copy of Joanne Courcey and a sledge hammer )

[Ted Massey]

Agree with you Simon specially the 2nd paragraph when i sold half the detroit stuff to Brownie(8 years ago) some of the stuff was valued around the £10 mark which included the Adorables GW cant believe it goes for £200 now would not entertain paying that now specially since i payed £2 originally

[Guest Bearsy]

I think the answer depends on why you want the record, to some degree; is it all time top want, label filler, 'current must have' for a busy DJ, one of those you've meaning to buy for the last 20 years but never got around to, etc, etc.

Personally my wants list consists of about half a dozen records I must have before I pop my clogs, and then several thousand "would like to have" but not that really bothered one way or the other. If it's one of the few 'must haves', then I must have been looking for them for decades, and would go well over the odds to get it in the end. However, so would a few other hundred vinyl junkies too!

The 'would like to have' ones are the real problem in recent times; basically they all fall into the same scenario, i.e. in my mind it's a £10 record, with inflation and current demand for vinyl I'd expect it to be £10-£15 (would consider paying that for it), but they're all at sale at £100! (Interesting to know the true turn over rate of record now days.) Then you see it for sale at £50 and I think ah!, that's half price, but really I know it's 3 to 5 times what it's worth to me, and so I think sod it I ain't forking out over the odds for a record that's just gonna sit on a shelf because from a nostalgic point of view over the last 20 + years, I've convinced myself that I really need one. They're the ones that have made me a bit jaded with collecting over the last couple of years.

Always thought if a won a few million on the lottery that I would go out and buy thousand and thousands regardless of their asking price, fill the SUV with £50 notes and head of to 'Pork Pie Land', but in reality I'd now probably come back with a few ridiculously over-priced bits of plastic and play them till they were worn out and would have thoroughly enjoyed owning them at long last. (Plus every known copy of Joanne Courcey and a sledge hammer )

Very interesting view and the way i see things now that you worded it like that, its just knowing where to stop and affordability and priority.

its worth it though no matter how much it frustrates me at times.

Bearsy

[Guest Dodger]

Very interesting view and the way i see things now that you worded it like that, its just knowing where to stop and affordability and priority.

its worth it though no matter how much it frustrates me at times.

Bearsy

The frustration factor was why I jacked in collecting sevens and sold 'em all - for some, like yourself, the frustration factor may well be worth it and all part of the fun and games of the chase but I couldn't hack getting so pissed off over a hobby that was meant to be enjoyable. Must admit, not being concerned with trophy records and collecting music that can be bought easily and cheaply is far better for my health (and wealth).

[Guest Matt Male]

I probably buy a combination of 'trophy' records (i like that term) and cheapies together with series fillers like a certain label or artist that takes my fancy. So a mixed bag really. My trophy record limit is £200 so i'd probably never go much above that even if i thought i could get it for £300 but it was worth more. I don't intend selling anything so i'm not bothered what it's worth for resale, just what it's gonna cost me. Case in point is possibly selling The Adorables - Oh Boy - GW issue and a couple of other £200+ 45s to buy a few cheapies i like, but i probably never will.

Unfortunately my must haves always seem to go up in price and most are now beyond my budget. Things like Ruby - Deceived/Feminine Ingenuity - Gold Token, was about in reach at around £300 a while back, now god knows what it's going for.

Started collecting again about eight years ago and thought i'd get pissed off with it, but i'm still enjoying buying new stuff i hear and a few old favourites too.

[steve z]

I think the answer depends on why you want the record, to some degree; is it all time top want, label filler, 'current must have' for a busy DJ, one of those you've meaning to buy for the last 20 years but never got around to, etc, etc.

Personally my wants list consists of about half a dozen records I must have before I pop my clogs, and then several thousand "would like to have" but not that really bothered one way or the other. If it's one of the few 'must haves', then I must have been looking for them for decades, and would go well over the odds to get it in the end. However, so would a few other hundred vinyl junkies too!

The 'would like to have' ones are the real problem in recent times; basically they all fall into the same scenario, i.e. in my mind it's a £10 record, with inflation and current demand for vinyl I'd expect it to be £10-£15 (would consider paying that for it), but they're all at sale at £100! (Interesting to know the true turn over rate of record now days.) Then you see it for sale at £50 and I think ah!, that's half price, but really I know it's 3 to 5 times what it's worth to me, and so I think sod it I ain't forking out over the odds for a record that's just gonna sit on a shelf because from a nostalgic point of view over the last 20 + years, I've convinced myself that I really need one. They're the ones that have made me a bit jaded with collecting over the last couple of years.

Always thought if a won a few million on the lottery that I would go out and buy thousand and thousands regardless of their asking price, fill the SUV with £50 notes and head of to 'Pork Pie Land', but in reality I'd now probably come back with a few ridiculously over-priced bits of plastic and play them till they were worn out and would have thoroughly enjoyed owning them at long last. (Plus every known copy of Joanne Courcey and a sledge hammer )

Many thanks for your concise reply

I suppose I set a price ,in my mind,as to how much I would like to own the record and then how much I am willing to pay.

I have just obtained The Hollywood Saxons on Action Pac at a reasonable price(cheers Des) I was offered a copy several months ago at double the price I eventually paid.

If I REALLY want a very expensive tune I too have to trade,which may have to include a current fave'...

One other point from my perspective is that I am not chasing the "popular" tunes ,which as you state have mainly shot up in price.......I too have sold them some time ago...for about a quarter of the current price ATB Steve

[paultp]

You do not know the "going rate" !Do you want the record and then stop....when you become aware of its price ,or try and obtain a copy?ATB Stevie z

I take the view that most records that I want will eventually come to me at a price I am prepared to pay. Since deciding this I've found that collecting is much more relaxed as if I miss something then it is obviously too expensive . It is too stressful and expensive chasing "must have" items.

There are quite a few records that I really would like to have but have accepted that I would never pay the money for them; Peoples Choice on Palmer, Al Williams, Professionals etc I'm sure you can have any record you want if you pay enough money.

Much more enjoyable looking for stuff and then getting it at a decent price. Most recent example is Carl Carlton - I Can Feel It on Back Beat, its taken me about a year to get a copy, haven't tried too hard but kept a look out, then got one off ebay for $41 (dunno what it goes for) and it turned out to be a demo.

Edited July 8, 2006 by paultp

[Guest in town Mikey]

I take the view that most records that I want will eventually come to me at a price I am prepared to pay. Since deciding this I've found that collecting is much more relaxed as if I miss something then it is obviously too expensive . It is too stressful and expensive chasing "must have" items.

There are quite a few records that I really would like to have but have accepted that I would never pay the money for them; Peoples Choice on Palmer, Al Williams, Professionals etc I'm sure you can have any record you want if you pay enough money.

Much more enjoyable looking for stuff and then getting it at a decent price. Most recent example is Carl Carlton - I Can Feel It on Back Beat, its taken me about a year to get a copy, haven't tried too hard but kept a look out, then got one off ebay for $41 (dunno what it goes for) and it turned out to be a demo.

One of the great assets soul source has is that the members are so ready to share great, cheap tracks they have found, that others may not know.

Two absolute Gems I bought inthe last 12 months or so both recommended on here, both cheap but sound a million dollars.

Dan put me on to Neal Brown - If by chance (Chart Sound), bought for £30 from Andy Dyson. and Jo Wallace put me on to Dee Dee Warwick - When love slips away (Mercury) bought for a tenner inc p&p from ebay.

If I ever have the kind of spare cash I had in the 80s I wouldnt baulk for one second at paying over the odds for a Bobby Kline, George Pepp or a Larry Allen.

[steve z]

One of the great assets soul source has is that the members are so ready to share great, cheap tracks they have found, that others may not know.

Two absolute Gems I bought inthe last 12 months or so both recommended on here, both cheap but sound a million dollars.

Dan put me on to Neal Brown - If by chance (Chart Sound), bought for £30 from Andy Dyson. and Jo Wallace put me on to Dee Dee Warwick - When love slips away (Mercury) bought for a tenner inc p&p from ebay.

If I ever have the kind of spare cash I had in the 80s I wouldnt baulk for one second at paying over the odds for a Bobby Kline, George Pepp or a Larry Allen.

Hiya , great tunes, dead lucky to have them both for around a"pound" 'cos of tape swapping....Those good old days

Over the odds in the 80s for George Pepp £400? Bobby Kline £350?Larry/L.Allen £100?

ATB Steve

[timthemod]

I've actually sold most of the 'big' records I owned, although this was only about 15 - 20 and none was worth more than about £150, probably most in 50 - 100 region. This enabled me to buy loads of really good cheap known and semi-known + some great new sounds. I could never afford to spend £200+ on one records, I'm not staying that people shouldn't, it's all down to personal choice.

But doing this has enabled me to continue my hobby of collecting great sounding original 45's of 60's soul genre in it's loosest sense as I like R&B, club soul, hammond, northern etc.

Interesting thread, showing it's not always about the most expensive records. Having said that one of my favorite weekly pastimes is looking at Manships auctions and checking what stuff goes for!

[steve z]

I've actually sold most of the 'big' records I owned, although this was only about 15 - 20 and none was worth more than about £150, probably most in 50 - 100 region. This enabled me to buy loads of really good cheap known and semi-known + some great new sounds. I could never afford to spend £200+ on one records, I'm not staying that people shouldn't, it's all down to personal choice.

But doing this has enabled me to continue my hobby of collecting great sounding original 45's of 60's soul genre in it's loosest sense as I like R&B, club soul, hammond, northern etc.

Interesting thread, showing it's not always about the most expensive records. Having said that one of my favorite weekly pastimes is looking at Manships auctions and checking what stuff goes for!

Hiya,I like the "original" bit.....if its a boot, its not collecting ...is it ATB Stevie