Tommy1 Posted March 6, 2014 Posted March 6, 2014 Hi all I’m writing a master thesis in history about the use of soul music as a political I have a large list of soul 45s with a political message, but on some of them I’m missing some info, mostly year of release. So if anyone could help with the missing parts I’d be grateful, any info is helpful! If you have anything please post on this tread or send me a PM. - 4TH GENERATION - Revolution phase II/I'm so happy - Teen town - Chicago IL - 197? - 5 SPIRITUAL TONES - Bad situation/He Never Left Me - Sound town - Chicago IL - 197? - ADVANCE WORKERS WTAS - You was dancing/Better red... - Peoples war - Newark NJ - 197? - AFTERMATH — Drugs/Young America - The Phoenix - ? - ? - APOLLOS SHOW BAND - Peace still is with us/Somebody Help Me — Apollos - Pershing Stockton CA - 197? - ASCOTS - Just A Few Feet From The Gutter/Mr.Fixit, The Repairman - American Playboy - Port Arthur TX - ? - BANKS BROS. THE - Bring it all back home/Instrumental — Consolidated - Richmond VA - 197? - BEE, JIMMY - Find yourself/ My darling - Cherry Red - San Francisco CA - ? - BERNAL, GIL - The dogs/ James Bump´s - Los Angeles CA - 196?/7? - BRONCE CONNECTION, THE - Love uprising/? — MPH - Chicago IL - ? - BROOKS, MAURICE- Once I was a colored man/ She made a man out of me - Rainbow - Pennsylvania PA - 197? - BROWN, CHARLIE - The whole world is watching/? - Checker - Chicago IL - ? - BYNUM, JAMES - We are in need/ - E.B.C. - Atlanta GA - 197? - CHRISTIAN HARMONIZERS, THE - Troubles Of The World/Someone greater than I — Hummingbird - Memphis TN - 197? - COCO, WALLY - Message to society/ Part 2 — Florentine - Florence SC - 197? - COLLINS, LOLLA - Save the children/ Me and my junkey man - Goodie train - Los Angeles CA - 196?/7? - COPELAND, JOHNNY - Soul power/ Ghetto child - Zephyr - ?? - 197? - COULTER, CLARENCE - Ride on/ I been saved - Hit track - Detroit MI - 197? - DAY, BOBBY - Just a feeling in the ghetto/ Pt. II — Byrdland - Los Angeles CA - 197? - DAZ´ RENE — Change/Ghettos Of Our Mind — Cared - San Bernardino CA - 197? - DELANEY, DANNY - Stop and think/ Faith Will Help You On — Palmeto - 197? - DELANEY, DANNY- Stop and think/ Faith Will Help You On — Seeda - 197? - DOW, MAURICE & THE EASTERN SOUND - Black Child/ Night Rider - Dee Dee - Baltimore MD - 197? - ECHOMEN, THE - Let's get together/ Talk is cheap — Shelia - Englewood NJ - 197? - EQUASIONS - World of loneliness/ It's So Hard to Say So Long - Pac Sounds - San Antonio TX - 197? - EVANS, J - Sailor on the ghetto sea/ Goodnite my love — Libra - Los Angeles CA - 197? - FABULISTICS - Nothing but determination/ Ohh-this is love - Great potential - Washington DC - 197? - FAMILY FOUR, THE - Searching for freedom /Heart In Pain - Bro-tone - Oakland CA - 197? - FANTASTIC COUSINS - Come down junkie/ Why O Why - E. Leonard - New York NY - 197? - FORBIDDEN CIRCLE - Love comes in all colors/ Hangin' on a tread - Down Home VA — 197? - FREE & EASY - Peace and love/ Instrumental - Carol G - Detroit MI - 197? - FREEMAN, FRANKIE - This old chack/ Born To Raise Hell — Ghetto - New York NY - 197? - GAINES, ROY - Heavy load/ Ginger Is Gentle - Bil-mar - Los Angeles CA - 197? - GREENLEE, BABY DAVE - We need love/ bout my baby's love — Steelcity - ?? - 196?/7? - GUIDERY, GEORGE - I know I'll get my pay/? - S&B - Chicago IL - ? - GUYS & DOLLS - Ain't it a shame/ Pretty, Pretty Baby — Astrophe - Chicago IL - 197? - HOT EARTH BAND - Hard times/ Loneliness — Rekan - St. Louis MO - 197? - HUDSON, JIMMY - I the poor/ Dead in the middle - Cle An Thair - Chicago IL - 197? - JOHNSON, JESSE - Kickin´ The Habit/ Chocolate Fudge Express - Down The Line - Turf Records - New York NY - 197? - JONES, BUSTER - Remember me/ Possessed — Stanson - Los Angeles CA - 197? - JONES, F. J. - My world (Part I)/ In This Land After Sundown — PS - Los Angeles CA - 196?/7? - KENNY & LARRY - Tired, tired, tired/ You and I are trough - A bem sole - Los Angeles CA - 197? - KING, BOBBY & THE RELATION - Don't give up hope/ Mama Told Me Not to Come — Lunar - Hollywood CA - 197? - LESTER, LONNIE & the 13th GENERATION - Power structure pt. 1/ Pt. 2 - Nu tone - Gary IN - 197? - LITTLE ED & THE SOUNDMASTER BAND - Struggling for survival/ It's a dream — Fised - Chicago IL - 197? - LITTLE JR. & THE BUTLER AIRES - Assassination of Dr. King/? - Gospel label - St. Petersburg FL - ? - MASTERS, JOE - Just be yourself/ That is why the end must begin — Boogaloo - Houston TX - 197? - MICKEY & THEM - Hey, Brother Man/ U.F.O. — GC - San Antonio TX - 197? - MONDAY, ART - Around comes around - Pt 1/ Pt. 2 — Baytown - Los Angeles CA - 197? - PRIDE, LOU - Phoney people/ We're Only Fooling Ourselves — Gemco - Chicago IL - 197? - RELATIVES, THE - Free at last (a tribute to M. L. K.)/ This world is moving to fast - Bix international - ? TX — 197? - RELATIVES, THE - Don't let me fall/? — Hosanna - Dallas TX — 197? - ROYAL REVUE, THE - Is it because I'm black/ Crazy About My Baby — Garu - San Antonio TX — 197? - SHADES OF YOU - Get up on yourself/ Withe the help of your love - J & J - Columbia SC - 197? - SIMMIE & THE DYNAMICS - It's time to change/ Don´t Make Me - Burn Bella - ?? - 196? - SIMMONS, CHARLES - Save the world/ You got it all - Hit sound - Cincinnati OH - 197? - SINS OF SATAN - Mother Nature/Natural Feelings — Ecology - Southfield MI - 197? - SOUL EXPLOSIVES - Trying to get down/ Ain't no sunshine — Bormeh - Kingsville TX - 197? - SOUTH FUNK BOULEVARD BAND - Be together/ Getting Off Your Loving - Captain funk - Natchez MS - 197? - SPIDELL - End the slums/ When it's over - Gree-jack - Memphis TN - 197? - STRAPP, JOHNNY - Everybody is trying to play somebody/ Steel away - Cle An Thair - Chicago IL - 197? - SUGAR BOY & SHADES OF BLACK - Free man/ Soul Tangle — Shades - Houston TX - 196?/7? - TALISMAN - Shady side of town/ Running From The Devil - Head hunters - Kansas City MO - 197? - TECNIQUES IV, THE - The project song/ I feel so good inside — Jasino - Austin TX - 197? - TEMPLE, CARL Soul day theme/ Same - Brighter world - ?? - 197? - TURNER, ROY - War no more Pt I/ Pt. 2 - Pro-gress - Milwaukee WI - 197? - WALKER, ALBERTINA - Love one another/ Mama said thank you — Caritas - Chicago IL — 19?? - WILEY, ED and THE PANASONICS - Young Generation/ Stretching Out - Na-Cat - Philadelphia PA - 196?/7? - WILLIAMS, JAMES & THE GHETTO SOUNDS — Wazuri/ Part II — Ghetto - Huston TX - 197? 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Godzilla Posted March 6, 2014 Posted March 6, 2014 What's the prize for actually reading that massive, unpunctuated block of text, then?
Dave Rimmer Posted March 6, 2014 Posted March 6, 2014 That's how SS shows a table when you try to upload it.
Godzilla Posted March 6, 2014 Posted March 6, 2014 That's how SS shows a table when you try to upload it. I thought there were different paste options that allow you to format/unformat text, Dave?
Tommy1 Posted March 6, 2014 Author Posted March 6, 2014 (edited) Sorry guys, I'm trying hard to paste/upload a excel list but it's not possible. I get this answer: You aren't permitted to upload this kind of file Edited March 6, 2014 by Tommy1
Guest MrC Posted March 6, 2014 Posted March 6, 2014 (edited) Just attach it to the post. Click the choose more options/upload an image button at the bottom of the normal post window, you'll then see a 'click to attach/upload file' option - use that. Would think that would work? Max file size is 22Mb Edited March 6, 2014 by MrC
Tommy1 Posted March 6, 2014 Author Posted March 6, 2014 Just attach it to the post. Click the choose more options/upload an image button at the bottom of the normal post window, you'll then see a 'click to attach/upload file' option - use that. Would think that would work? Max file size is 22Mb That's one where I get the message: You aren't permitted to upload this kind of file
Guest MrC Posted March 6, 2014 Posted March 6, 2014 That's one where I get the message: You aren't permitted to upload this kind of file Guess not then! Sorry!
Sebastian Posted March 6, 2014 Posted March 6, 2014 That's one where I get the message: You aren't permitted to upload this kind of file Send it to me as a PM, I might be able to convert it into plain text.
Guest MrC Posted March 6, 2014 Posted March 6, 2014 If you post the problem here https://www.soul-source.co.uk/forum/41-support-forum/ Mike will give you the answer.
Godzilla Posted March 6, 2014 Posted March 6, 2014 In the absence of the list I can at least give you the info for his one: ED. WILEY and the Panasonics NA - CAT records 3621 Old York Road Phila., Pa. 19140 210 A Young Generation (Wylie - Bryant - Hathaway) 2:12 Prod by Cathy and Nate Strand Folsom Music BMI 210-B Instrumental Stretching Out (Wylie - Bryant - Hathaway) 2:30 Prod by Cathy and Nate Strand Folsom Music BMI 1
Larsc Posted March 6, 2014 Posted March 6, 2014 Open the file and save it as comma separated .csv. Those are just plain text so you'll probably be able to upload it. Excel sheets can contain macros that can be used to infect your computer.
Tommy1 Posted March 6, 2014 Author Posted March 6, 2014 Open the file and save it as comma separated .csv. Those are just plain text so you'll probably be able to upload it. Excel sheets can contain macros that can be used to infect your computer Didn't work that either Lars.. But I've fixed it now: - 4TH GENERATION - Revolution phase II/I'm so happy - Teen town - Chicago IL - 197? - 5 SPIRITUAL TONES - Bad situation/He Never Left Me - Sound town - Chicago IL - 197? - ADVANCE WORKERS WTAS - You was dancing/Better red... - Peoples war - Newark NJ - 197? - AFTERMATH — Drugs/Young America - The Phoenix - ? - ? - APOLLOS SHOW BAND - Peace still is with us/Somebody Help Me — Apollos - Pershing Stockton CA - 197? - ASCOTS - Just A Few Feet From The Gutter/Mr.Fixit, The Repairman - American Playboy - Port Arthur TX - ? - BANKS BROS. THE - Bring it all back home/Instrumental — Consolidated - Richmond VA - 197? - BEE, JIMMY - Find yourself/ My darling - Cherry Red - San Francisco CA - ? - BERNAL, GIL - The dogs/ James Bump´s - Los Angeles CA - 196?/7? - BRONCE CONNECTION, THE - Love uprising/? — MPH - Chicago IL - ? - BROOKS, MAURICE- Once I was a colored man/ She made a man out of me - Rainbow - Pennsylvania PA - 197? - BROWN, CHARLIE - The whole world is watching/? - Checker - Chicago IL - ? - BYNUM, JAMES - We are in need/ - E.B.C. - Atlanta GA - 197? - CHRISTIAN HARMONIZERS, THE - Troubles Of The World/Someone greater than I — Hummingbird - Memphis TN - 197? - COCO, WALLY - Message to society/ Part 2 — Florentine - Florence SC - 197? - COLLINS, LOLLA - Save the children/ Me and my junkey man - Goodie train - Los Angeles CA - 196?/7? - COPELAND, JOHNNY - Soul power/ Ghetto child - Zephyr - ?? - 197? - COULTER, CLARENCE - Ride on/ I been saved - Hit track - Detroit MI - 197? - DAY, BOBBY - Just a feeling in the ghetto/ Pt. II — Byrdland - Los Angeles CA - 197? - DAZ´ RENE — Change/Ghettos Of Our Mind — Cared - San Bernardino CA - 197? - DELANEY, DANNY - Stop and think/ Faith Will Help You On — Palmeto - 197? - DELANEY, DANNY- Stop and think/ Faith Will Help You On — Seeda - 197? - DOW, MAURICE & THE EASTERN SOUND - Black Child/ Night Rider - Dee Dee - Baltimore MD - 197? - ECHOMEN, THE - Let's get together/ Talk is cheap — Shelia - Englewood NJ - 197? - EQUASIONS - World of loneliness/ It's So Hard to Say So Long - Pac Sounds - San Antonio TX - 197? - EVANS, J - Sailor on the ghetto sea/ Goodnite my love — Libra - Los Angeles CA - 197? - FABULISTICS - Nothing but determination/ Ohh-this is love - Great potential - Washington DC - 197? - FAMILY FOUR, THE - Searching for freedom /Heart In Pain - Bro-tone - Oakland CA - 197? - FANTASTIC COUSINS - Come down junkie/ Why O Why - E. Leonard - New York NY - 197? - FORBIDDEN CIRCLE - Love comes in all colors/ Hangin' on a tread - Down Home VA — 197? - FREE & EASY - Peace and love/ Instrumental - Carol G - Detroit MI - 197? - FREEMAN, FRANKIE - This old chack/ Born To Raise Hell — Ghetto - New York NY - 197? - GAINES, ROY - Heavy load/ Ginger Is Gentle - Bil-mar - Los Angeles CA - 197? - GREENLEE, BABY DAVE - We need love/ bout my baby's love — Steelcity - ?? - 196?/7? - GUIDERY, GEORGE - I know I'll get my pay/? - S&B - Chicago IL - ? - GUYS & DOLLS - Ain't it a shame/ Pretty, Pretty Baby — Astrophe - Chicago IL - 197? - HOT EARTH BAND - Hard times/ Loneliness — Rekan - St. Louis MO - 197? - HUDSON, JIMMY - I the poor/ Dead in the middle - Cle An Thair - Chicago IL - 197? - JOHNSON, JESSE - Kickin´ The Habit/ Chocolate Fudge Express - Down The Line - Turf Records - New York NY - 197? - JONES, BUSTER - Remember me/ Possessed — Stanson - Los Angeles CA - 197? - JONES, F. J. - My world (Part I)/ In This Land After Sundown — PS - Los Angeles CA - 196?/7? - KENNY & LARRY - Tired, tired, tired/ You and I are trough - A bem sole - Los Angeles CA - 197? - KING, BOBBY & THE RELATION - Don't give up hope/ Mama Told Me Not to Come — Lunar - Hollywood CA - 197? - LESTER, LONNIE & the 13th GENERATION - Power structure pt. 1/ Pt. 2 - Nu tone - Gary IN - 197? - LITTLE ED & THE SOUNDMASTER BAND - Struggling for survival/ It's a dream — Fised - Chicago IL - 197? - LITTLE JR. & THE BUTLER AIRES - Assassination of Dr. King/? - Gospel label - St. Petersburg FL - ? - MASTERS, JOE - Just be yourself/ That is why the end must begin — Boogaloo - Houston TX - 197? - MICKEY & THEM - Hey, Brother Man/ U.F.O. — GC - San Antonio TX - 197? - MONDAY, ART - Around comes around - Pt 1/ Pt. 2 — Baytown - Los Angeles CA - 197? - PRIDE, LOU - Phoney people/ We're Only Fooling Ourselves — Gemco - Chicago IL - 197? - RELATIVES, THE - Free at last (a tribute to M. L. K.)/ This world is moving to fast - Bix international - ? TX — 197? - RELATIVES, THE - Don't let me fall/? — Hosanna - Dallas TX — 197? - ROYAL REVUE, THE - Is it because I'm black/ Crazy About My Baby — Garu - San Antonio TX — 197? - SHADES OF YOU - Get up on yourself/ Withe the help of your love - J & J - Columbia SC - 197? - SIMMIE & THE DYNAMICS - It's time to change/ Don´t Make Me - Burn Bella - ?? - 196? - SIMMONS, CHARLES - Save the world/ You got it all - Hit sound - Cincinnati OH - 197? - SINS OF SATAN - Mother Nature/Natural Feelings — Ecology - Southfield MI - 197? - SOUL EXPLOSIVES - Trying to get down/ Ain't no sunshine — Bormeh - Kingsville TX - 197? - SOUTH FUNK BOULEVARD BAND - Be together/ Getting Off Your Loving - Captain funk - Natchez MS - 197? - SPIDELL - End the slums/ When it's over - Gree-jack - Memphis TN - 197? - STRAPP, JOHNNY - Everybody is trying to play somebody/ Steel away - Cle An Thair - Chicago IL - 197? - SUGAR BOY & SHADES OF BLACK - Free man/ Soul Tangle — Shades - Houston TX - 196?/7? - TALISMAN - Shady side of town/ Running From The Devil - Head hunters - Kansas City MO - 197? - TECNIQUES IV, THE - The project song/ I feel so good inside — Jasino - Austin TX - 197? - TEMPLE, CARL Soul day theme/ Same - Brighter world - ?? - 197? - TURNER, ROY - War no more Pt I/ Pt. 2 - Pro-gress - Milwaukee WI - 197? - WALKER, ALBERTINA - Love one another/ Mama said thank you — Caritas - Chicago IL — 19?? - WILEY, ED and THE PANASONICS - Young Generation/ Stretching Out - Na-Cat - Philadelphia PA - 196?/7? - WILLIAMS, JAMES & THE GHETTO SOUNDS — Wazuri/ Part II — Ghetto - Huston TX - 197?
Tommy1 Posted March 6, 2014 Author Posted March 6, 2014 Forgot this: - WILMER, SHIELA — Look at your soul/Exonarate — Whole Soul - ?? - 1971
Guest MrC Posted March 6, 2014 Posted March 6, 2014 For anything on any of the Washington based labels, (such as the ET White on Great Potential) you could try https://www.dcsoulrecordings.com/ It was set up to catalog and preserve the rich history of Washington D.C. & Maryland Funk, Soul, & R&B music. The guy who runs it is Kevin Coome, he might have some answers for you.
Godzilla Posted March 6, 2014 Posted March 6, 2014 One other I can help with: LOU PRIDE Gemco Records 311 Exchange, Memphis GC 118 A Phoney People (G.L. Pride) 2:10 Producer Kenneth Smith Puntina Publishing Company GC 118 B We're Only Fooling Ourselves (G.L. Pride) 3:12 Producer Kenneth Smith Puntina Publishing Company
Tommy1 Posted March 6, 2014 Author Posted March 6, 2014 One other I can help with: LOU PRIDE Gemco Records 311 Exchange, Memphis GC 118 A Phoney People (G.L. Pride) 2:10 Producer Kenneth Smith Puntina Publishing Company GC 118 B We're Only Fooling Ourselves (G.L. Pride) 3:12 Producer Kenneth Smith Puntina Publishing Company Thanks! Do you know release year?
Tommy1 Posted March 6, 2014 Author Posted March 6, 2014 For anything on any of the Washington based labels, (such as the ET White on Great Potential) you could try https://www.dcsoulrecordings.com/ It was set up to catalog and preserve the rich history of Washington D.C. & Maryland Funk, Soul, & R&B music. The guy who runs it is Kevin Coome, he might have some answers for you. Thanks!
Godzilla Posted March 6, 2014 Posted March 6, 2014 Thanks! Do you know release year? I'm afraid not and no clues in the dead wax. Sorry 1
Dobber Posted March 6, 2014 Posted March 6, 2014 surprised that y.o.p -hopes dreams tombstones-colombia isnt on the list?
Tommy1 Posted March 7, 2014 Author Posted March 7, 2014 surprised that y.o.p -hopes dreams tombstones-colombia isnt on the list? Hi dobber. Not sure what y.o.p -hopes dreams tombstones-colombia is, can't find any info on it. But The list of "political" soul 45s are much bigger than this, this is the 45s that I don't have full info on. Don't be shy people, anything can help!
Sebastian Posted March 7, 2014 Posted March 7, 2014 Not sure what y.o.p -hopes dreams tombstones-colombia is, Jimmy Fraser - Of Hopes And Dreams And Tombstones - COLUMBIA 43407 also released as: Youth Opportunity Program - Of Hopes And Dreams And Tombstones - COLUMBIA 43407 1
Ernie Andrews Posted March 7, 2014 Posted March 7, 2014 Tommy why dont you ask the question here (possible survey question) and you should get sufficient replies that you could check off against your list that you have . The end product will be that you have all the submitted ones by SS members or you will have ones that you were not aware of like the YOP. Just a thought! Regards Steve 1
Tommy1 Posted March 7, 2014 Author Posted March 7, 2014 Tommy why dont you ask the question here (possible survey question) and you should get sufficient replies that you could check off against your list that you have . The end product will be that you have all the submitted ones by SS members or you will have ones that you were not aware of like the YOP. Just a thought! Regards Steve That's a good idea Steve, but I've had a group on facebook for this over the last year or two. I did not know the YOP (Thanks dobber and Sebastian!) and I'm pretty sure the list will never bee 100% complete even thoug I want to.
Tommy1 Posted March 8, 2014 Author Posted March 8, 2014 I've tried hard to find any info on these 45s so I was not expecting lot of contributions, but maybe on one or two?
Soul Shrews Posted March 8, 2014 Posted March 8, 2014 Thanks! Do you know release year? From around 1970-73 Theres an interview with discography in "In The Basement" magazine. The specific dates are no doubt there to be found Cheers Paul
Tommy1 Posted March 8, 2014 Author Posted March 8, 2014 From around 1970-73 Theres an interview with discography in "In The Basement" magazine. The specific dates are no doubt there to be found Cheers Paul Thanks Paul! 1
boba Posted March 8, 2014 Posted March 8, 2014 I can look up almost any of these in copyright and get like an exact date it was copyrighted but it takes a ridiculous amount of time pre-1978 because you have to go through the books.
Tommy1 Posted March 9, 2014 Author Posted March 9, 2014 I can look up almost any of these in copyright and get like an exact date it was copyrighted but it takes a ridiculous amount of time pre-1978 because you have to go through the books. My source is the discographies on the web and R&B Indies. I do not have access to the copyright books and I understand the time that will take. My master thesis is based on the 45s with complete info so it's not that important. Thanks anyway Bob!
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