Otis Smith - Let Her Go

[heartandsoulktf]

Hi all i have recieved a copy of this record its the second issue with the instrumental as the b-side. I have posted this question elswhere and the verdict was boot but have promised the supplier i would ask the same question here as he is not convinced my suspicions are correct and if i am honest i'm not totally sure myself. First of it's cat number is P 4 A ( Same as the original) where the usuall re-issue has PS 4 A it has a scratched matrix not stamped looks like a stuck on paper lable and is missing the date under the OTIS SMITH wording, is it possible this is a rarer version as it turn's up on ebay at around 5 : 1 ratio . Was it ever booted !!

 

MANY THANKS

[Chalky]

As said elsewhere.....It was booted on vinyl and reissued on styrene as far as I am aware both with the instrumental on the flip.  The original as said has machine stamped matrix, is on vinyl and has the flip "Alley Full Of Trash And Bottles".

[heartandsoulktf]

Thanks chalky yes you are correct the question has been asked elsewhere i just promised the supplier i would ask here also as the knowledge base is far superior .

[Donkit]

It's a boot / reissue whatever, Proper one / Original as Chalky says has Alley Full Of Trash And Bottles on the flip

[heartandsoulktf]

No.... i dont have a problem with it being a legit re-issue we cant all afford to pay hundreds of pounds, i do have a problem if im passing it on and it's a boot of the re-issue.

[heartandsoulktf]

Cheers all have contacted seller and am returning the item

[Chalky]

Thanks chalky yes you are correct the question has been asked elsewhere i just promised the supplier i would ask here also as the knowledge base is far superior .

Some very knowledgeable people answered you elsewhere so a bit insulting to them your reply isn't it?

You have what appears to be the reissue if it is styrene with stuck on label. There is no original release with the instrumental flip.

Edited January 25, 2014 by chalky

[heartandsoulktf]

Never ever ever ever said it was an original i said  was IT a legit re-issue and asked was the legit re-issue booted thats all i have asked and i only posted here at the request of the supplier as stated several times . I was perfectly happy with the responses on facebook

[Rich B]

Its a very long time since I heard it, but isn't the styrene reissue a different mix? Got an organ on there that isn't on the original?

[Mike]

Thanks chalky yes you are correct the question has been asked elsewhere i just promised the supplier i would ask here also as the knowledge base is far superior .

 

just ask on here straight away next time

 

it save you getting a hard time from people involved with other sites

[boba]

Its a very long time since I heard it, but isn't the styrene reissue a different mix? Got an organ on there that isn't on the original?

 

can anyone confirm this? I only have the one with the instrumental flip so I can't a/b it. Are both versions on youtube?

 

EDIT: also, I assume it was reissued to meet UK demand, when was the reissue done and was perception contracted to press copies? Who contacted them, Neil Rushton, John Anderson, etc.? thanks again.

Edited January 26, 2014 by boba

[Rich B]

it was very early 70's Bob, can't ever remember it not being about. ( I started collecting in '73)

[Mike]

can anyone confirm this? I only have the one with the instrumental flip so I can't a/b it. Are both versions on youtube?

 

EDIT: also, I assume it was reissued to meet UK demand, when was the reissue done and was perception contracted to press copies? Who contacted them, Neil Rushton, John Anderson, etc.? thanks again.

 

on youtube

 

if go to refo page

 

https://www.soul-source.co.uk/more/soul-library/otis-smith-let-her-go-r23871

 

track 1 on the refosoul player has organ

track 2 doesnt

[Rich B]

I'm thinking legal re issue if they had access to a different mix....and an instrumental.

 

Edited January 26, 2014 by Rich B

[Guest]

A 1st press for reference

[boba]

I looked at the refosoul listing, I only see one youtube clip? either way, I believe that there were two versions. Which one has the organ, the original or later version? The original version came out in 1969. If the second version came out just a few years later, was it commissioned for the northern soul scene? That seems really early in the history of northern soul (which I know little about), who would have commissioned it from Perception?

[dthedrug]

 Hi All....Like many people my first copy of "let her go!" was the 2nd issue PERCEPTION with the instrument B side, the record is a different take from the original issue, I have always assumed the 2nd copy to have been legit similar to the Jerry Williams "if I asked you" CALLA reissue, however they may of come from the same source as the James Bounty "prove yourself a lady" maybe semi legit?

Both copy's the 1st & 2nd are hard to value, as the 2nd copy has the instr on the B side, I suppose the !st copy is the to have, however you may be like myself and have both copies in your collection, 

BUSTER PEARSON ACTION 45, was an early cover up for KM at the TORCH as OTIS SMITH  Dave k

[Jerry Hipkiss]

I looked at the refosoul listing, I only see one youtube clip? either way, I believe that there were two versions. Which one has the organ, the original or later version? The original version came out in 1969. If the second version came out just a few years later, was it commissioned for the northern soul scene? That seems really early in the history of northern soul (which I know little about), who would have commissioned it from Perception?

The second issue was around in 1973 if I remember correctly...that was the one with the instr. on the B-side

[Chalky]

The boot is a boot of the re-issue and according to JM came out in 1973 so would tie in with the re-issue of Jerry Williams at the same time.

 

I looked at the refosoul listing, I only see one youtube clip? either way, I believe that there were two versions. Which one has the organ, the original or later version? The original version came out in 1969. If the second version came out just a few years later, was it commissioned for the northern soul scene? That seems really early in the history of northern soul (which I know little about), who would have commissioned it from Perception?

 

 

The original was 1970 wasn't it, Z4KM would indicate it was according to the RCA pressing plant info on Flynny's site.

 

The re-issue 1973 so I would imagine whoever was behind Jerry Williams on Calla getting reissued was maybe behind this?   Is the boot a boot of the re-issue?

[Jerry Hipkiss]

Some of the later Perception releases had the mastering date scratched in , so maybe someone who has the version with the instr., could supply details of what's in the runout to compare?

[heartandsoulktf]

The one in question just has P-4A   10-1     6-73   Scratched in with a stuck 0n lable ....now i have to be honest not sure if its vinyl or styrene other than.. and this may sound daft but i'm sure i have read it somwhere if i flick the record it carriies a sweet ring where other records i try this with give a dull sound ...@@@

[Chalky]

The one in question just has P-4A   10-1     6-73   Scratched in with a stuck 0n lable ....now i have to be honest not sure if its vinyl or styrene other than.. and this may sound daft but i'm sure i have read it somwhere if i flick the record it carriies a sweet ring where other records i try this with give a dull sound ...@@@

 

Stick on label (if you can get your nail under the label) is styrene.  If it is, which it sounds like then you have the 1973 reissue.

 

Edited January 26, 2014 by chalky

[heartandsoulktf]

Yep have been able to pull it back slightly

[Jerry Hipkiss]

As I thought, the 6-73 gives you the repress date...so who was behind it?

[Chalky]

As I thought, the 6-73 gives you the repress date...so who was behind it?

 

Do we know who was behind Jerry Williams Calla outing?

[heartandsoulktf]

So does this look like its legit then

Edited January 26, 2014 by heartandsoulktf

[Chalky]

So does this look like its legit then

 

 

It is the legit reissue but it's worth nothing like the original, probably about the same as the boot, maybe bit more.

[heartandsoulktf]

Cheers chalky i know its not worth as much ...by the way there is an original on ebay right now .....so why has it got a different cat number then i wonder ?

[Chalky]

The first pressed at RCA pressing plant, they give it a matrix number using there own numbering system. The second pressed elsewhere.

[heartandsoulktf]

Many thanks to everyone for your comments in this matter