Mick Holdsworth Posted January 21, 2014 Posted January 21, 2014 No, just the yellow issues Cheers Mick
Mrtag Posted January 21, 2014 Posted January 21, 2014 Never seen one!! When I got the yellow label issue back in the 70's (I think) I was informed that it was a boot as the record did not exist!! Doh!
Ian Seaman Posted January 21, 2014 Author Posted January 21, 2014 cheers fella's , yes seem to remember it being once labeled a boot, wasn't the only one too
Pete S Posted January 21, 2014 Posted January 21, 2014 It's not really a boot, it was pressed up by Soul Bowl from the original tapes, but it never had an official 'original' 60's release 2
grant Posted January 21, 2014 Posted January 21, 2014 It's not really a boot, it was pressed up by Soul Bowl from the original tapes, but it never had an official 'original' 60's release any idea how many were pressed?
Ian Seaman Posted January 21, 2014 Author Posted January 21, 2014 is it the only way of getting the vocal then apart from GRP copies ?
Pete S Posted January 21, 2014 Posted January 21, 2014 any idea how many were pressed? Not many I wouldn't have thought. Was just saying to Scal - dj's were playing this off emidiscs, not off Satiron copies, then it came out on Grapevine, then the "import" copies appeared, well after. 1
grant Posted January 21, 2014 Posted January 21, 2014 Not many I wouldn't have thought. Was just saying to Scal - dj's were playing this off emidiscs, not off Satiron copies, then it came out on Grapevine, then the "import" copies appeared, well after. an I always thought the import copies were before the grapevine, you live n learn 1
Pete S Posted January 21, 2014 Posted January 21, 2014 an I always thought the import copies were before the grapevine, you live n learn No you might well be right Grant but they were not made available to Joe Public if they were, I actually didn't see this until the 80's on that yellow label and I swear to you I was buying or at least seeing everything that got pressed from maybe 1975 to 1980 in Peps shop
Eddie Hubbard Posted January 21, 2014 Posted January 21, 2014 Well worth getting for the vocal of " Like a rolling stone " on the flip , which isn't available on any other 45..... 1 2
T Dellar Posted January 21, 2014 Posted January 21, 2014 I got a copy from John Anderson circa `77/ `78, not sure how many he had
Stretfordender Posted January 21, 2014 Posted January 21, 2014 Well worth getting for the vocal of " Like a rolling stone " on the flip , which isn't available on any other 45..... couldn't agree more - but then why did i sell it on here a year ago? oh, yeh, to fund other purchases! 1
Ted Massey Posted January 21, 2014 Posted January 21, 2014 Well worth getting for the vocal of " Like a rolling stone " on the flip , which isn't available on any other 45..... that's the best side IMO 2
Guest Posted January 21, 2014 Posted January 21, 2014 (edited) Not many I wouldn't have thought. Was just saying to Scal - dj's were playing this off emidiscs, not off Satiron copies, then it came out on Grapevine, then the "import" copies appeared, well after. I remember "I belong To You" sounded great in Wigan when it was a monster, before it came out on Grapevine. The floor used to be totally packed when it was played! Edited January 21, 2014 by Guest
Steve G Posted January 21, 2014 Posted January 21, 2014 (edited) an I always thought the import copies were before the grapevine, you live n learn Certainly played at Wigan some time before the Grapevine issue……but why would it be "pressed" anyway if on Grapevine? Doesn't make sense…. Edited January 21, 2014 by Steve G 1
AlanB Posted January 21, 2014 Posted January 21, 2014 (edited) The label on the Grapevine one says 1976. I bought the Satiron one from John Anderson when he listed it, and I think that was before the Grapevine one came ought. Presumably a few hundred of the Satiron one pressed?. I don't think it would have made sense to get the Satiron one pressed up (with Rolling Stone vocal on the flip, that no one was interested in at the time) after the Grapevine one was issued with the popular instrumental (Gallop) on the flip. Edited January 21, 2014 by AlanB 1
Steve G Posted January 21, 2014 Posted January 21, 2014 (edited) The Grapevine release did not come out until August 1977. Grapevine didn't exist in 1976, that's probably the date the song was licensed. Edited January 21, 2014 by Steve G
Pete S Posted January 21, 2014 Posted January 21, 2014 The label on the Grapevine one says 1976. I bought the Satiron one from John Anderson when he listed it, and I think that was before the Grapevine one came ought. Presumably a few hundred pressed?. I don't think it would have made sense to get the Satiron one pressed up (with Rolling Stone vocal on the flip, that no one was interested in at the time) after the Grapevine one was issued with the popular instrumental (Gallop) on the flip. Yes but why issue it on Satirion and kill the sales potential of the Grapevine one? Especially when you part own the label.
AlanB Posted January 21, 2014 Posted January 21, 2014 Yes but why issue it on Satirion and kill the sales potential of the Grapevine one? Especially when you part own the label. I agree it seems strange for John Anderson to have arranged both releases quite close together, but I think it would seem more sensible to have gone with the Satiron one first (which I think was a limited run), then follow it with Grapevine, rather than the other way round.
Pete S Posted January 21, 2014 Posted January 21, 2014 I agree it seems strange for John Anderson to have arranged both releases quite close together, but I think it would seem more sensible to have gone with the Satiron one first (which I think was a limited run), then follow it with Grapevine, rather than the other way round. I agree with that but am just saying that these were not around to buy at the time, if they were there you must have either had to be in the know or you bought durectly off John, I never saw it in a shop or an advert - if you think about it, it was massive until it came out on Grapevine so if it had been pressed for all and sundry before Grapevine, it would have been dropped for sure 1
Steve G Posted January 21, 2014 Posted January 21, 2014 I agree with that but am just saying that these were not around to buy at the time, if they were there you must have either had to be in the know or you bought durectly off John, I never saw it in a shop or an advert - if you think about it, it was massive until it came out on Grapevine so if it had been pressed for all and sundry before Grapevine, it would have been dropped for sure Very true. I'll ask john about it next time I see / speak to him.
AlanB Posted January 21, 2014 Posted January 21, 2014 (edited) I agree with that but am just saying that these were not around to buy at the time, if they were there you must have either had to be in the know or you bought durectly off John, I never saw it in a shop or an advert - if you think about it, it was massive until it came out on Grapevine so if it had been pressed for all and sundry before Grapevine, it would have been dropped for sure If I remember right it was one of his front page records, listed in the same kind of way as the Harthon reissues were. Edited January 21, 2014 by AlanB
Platters 81 Posted January 22, 2014 Posted January 22, 2014 the vocal to "like a rolling stone " didnt come out on the Grapevine lp either......the Satiron 45 is its only vinyl release.as far as i know....has it ever been comped on CD?
rictic67 Posted January 22, 2014 Posted January 22, 2014 (edited) If I remember right it was one of his front page records, listed in the same kind of way as the Harthon reissues were. I can't remember who played it, but I can recall at St Ives in 1977 Milton Wright being played for the first time, complete with the dj comment along the lines of "Here's one you know really well - but with a vocal!" And yes, front page Soul Bowl listing - £1.50 in 1978 if I recall correctly! Edited January 22, 2014 by rictic67 1
Mrtag Posted January 22, 2014 Posted January 22, 2014 I believe it was a limited press!! Kind of a promo for the Grapevine release!! I Guess!! I know I nearly got my head bitten off for playing it at Lytham Football Club by a certain Jon Le Saint just before he was due to do his spot!!! as The Gallop was his biggie at that time!! 1
Steve G Posted January 23, 2014 Posted January 23, 2014 It was def. before the Grapevine release. 100%. 2
Dazdakin Posted January 23, 2014 Posted January 23, 2014 You learn something everyday.........i always thought, was never told otherwise or heard otherwise that Satiron was the pucker U.S. release. dazz
Jerry Hipkiss Posted January 23, 2014 Posted January 23, 2014 I always thought they were mainly to get DJ's playing the vocal ahead of the Grapevine release!
Tfk Posted January 23, 2014 Posted January 23, 2014 (edited) Defo remember the import copy in circulation before the Grapevine release - a fantastic recording and certainly caught my imagination back then !!! Ticked all the right boxes !! Acquired a Grapevine demo on its UK release- was well well pleased ... Love it ....here goes cudna resist giving it another listen!!! tfk Edited January 24, 2014 by tfk
Popular Post Dave Pinch Posted January 26, 2014 Popular Post Posted January 26, 2014 oh go on then.....here`s the fabulous flip https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=H8663M2fqSg 1 5
Lfcjunkie Posted January 26, 2014 Posted January 26, 2014 "Like a rolling stone" is surely the side anyone really wants this record for....wonder if there was really a few hundred made I don't know so many that own it...fantastic record though dave L 1
Dean Carr Posted May 8, 2019 Posted May 8, 2019 (edited) On 23/01/2014 at 20:22, Jerry Hipkiss said: I always thought they were mainly to get DJ's playing the vocal ahead of the Grapevine release! It is listed twice in the BMI Cat However I can not see a listing for Like a rolling stone? The other I belong to you is SONGWRITER/COMPOSER - BROWN ALLANSON. There are 8 listings on the BMI site for the song title "Like a rolling stone" none of them are by Milton Wright? Edited May 8, 2019 by Dean Carr
Tomangoes Posted May 9, 2019 Posted May 9, 2019 (edited) I remember the gallop being played at Spurley Hey school / youth club all dayer Rotherham, around 77 Also used by the BBC on a few programmes, so it must have been on grapevine. However I did own a copy of IBTY on the yellow satiron and always thought it could not have been an original as I only paid a few Bob for it. Probably dropped a bo*ll*k there if in fact this thread is true.....sold it cheap as well.. Still somebody has got my copy.... What a moody tune. Awesome played loud in a big hall.. Ed Edited May 9, 2019 by Tomangoes Spello
Mike Posted May 9, 2019 Posted May 9, 2019 5 hours ago, Dean Carr said: It is listed twice in the BMI Cat However I can not see a listing for Like a rolling stone? The other I belong to you is SONGWRITER/COMPOSER - BROWN ALLANSON. There are 8 listings on the BMI site for the song title "Like a rolling stone" none of them are by Milton Wright? 10 years back here the The Honorable Milton Wright tells us that the 'Like A Rolling Stone track was actually called something else... "The Rollin River Song" but.... that doesn't show either
25miles Posted May 9, 2019 Posted May 9, 2019 8 hours ago, Tomangoes said: I remember the gallop being played at Spurley Hey school / youth club all dayer Rotherham, around 77 Also used by the BBC on a few programmes, so it must have been on grapevine. However I did own a copy of IBTY on the yellow satiron and always thought it could not have been an original as I only paid a few Bob for it. Probably dropped a bo*ll*k there if in fact this thread is true.....sold it cheap as well.. Still somebody has got my copy.... What a moody tune. Awesome played loud in a big hall.. Ed it's not your copy now if you sold it !!!! played at 'nighters well before 77 mate when instrumentals were popular
Wheelsville1 Posted May 9, 2019 Posted May 9, 2019 12 minutes ago, 25miles said: it's not your copy now if you sold it !!!! played at 'nighters well before 77 mate when instrumentals were popular The Gallop was a popular play at Wakefield Unity Hall all nighter. Chris.
Dave Pinch Posted May 9, 2019 Posted May 9, 2019 11 hours ago, Dean Carr said: It is listed twice in the BMI Cat However I can not see a listing for Like a rolling stone? The other I belong to you is SONGWRITER/COMPOSER - BROWN ALLANSON. There are 8 listings on the BMI site for the song title "Like a rolling stone" none of them are by Milton Wright? its called the rolling river song..like a rolling stone was an error
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