Gene-r Posted January 14, 2014 Posted January 14, 2014 Yes - it's true! https://www.45worlds.com/78rpm/record/ye6298
Gene-r Posted January 14, 2014 Author Posted January 14, 2014 On 14/01/2014 at 15:41, sharmo 1 said: That , Sir is stunning . Exactly. Who'd have thought 78s were still pressed as late as 1967, let alone by someone like Desmond Dekker?
Guest sharmo 1 Posted January 14, 2014 Posted January 14, 2014 Is there any footage any where of 78's being made ? I've googled a couple of times and come up with nothing . Burning question now , is the plant needed to make 78's still in existence ? I was told at Leicester record fair once that 78's were still being produced in India and China ? any one confirm.
Gene-r Posted January 14, 2014 Author Posted January 14, 2014 (edited) Apparently, Sharmo, 78s were still being pressed in the Phillipines, Brazil and India as late as 1966 (maybe later, who knows?). I don't know if this is of help. Some of this video shows Prince Philip visiting Decca's pressing plant in 1957, and how 78s are pressed (I think). PS - there's no sound with the film. https://www.britishpathe.com/video/prince-philip-visits-decca-factories/query/joy Edited January 14, 2014 by Gene-R
Pete S Posted January 14, 2014 Posted January 14, 2014 Just can't understand why this even exists as a 78, six years after most countries stopped making them.
Gene-r Posted January 14, 2014 Author Posted January 14, 2014 On 14/01/2014 at 15:52, Pete S said: Just can't understand why this even exists as a 78, six years after most countries stopped making them. Apparently, the reason 78s were still being pressed in India in the mid-60s was to serve people in parts of the country which were poorly served by electricity, and had to still rely on portable wind-up gramophones. I wonder if this was the same in other far Eastern and African countries?
Ernie Andrews Posted January 14, 2014 Posted January 14, 2014 Maybe to cater for those who only had 78 players Pete. Some people still only have Black & white TVs but not for much longer!
Karl s Posted January 14, 2014 Posted January 14, 2014 Very strange gene how on earth did you find this
Gene-r Posted January 14, 2014 Author Posted January 14, 2014 (edited) On 14/01/2014 at 15:56, Karl s said: Very strange gene how on earth did you find this Karl, I post 78s and 45s on 45cat, and its sister site 78worlds, and whilst I was browsing the forum one day, I turned this up. I couldn't believe what I was seeing! Edited January 14, 2014 by Gene-R
Karl s Posted January 14, 2014 Posted January 14, 2014 Gene you never cease to amaze me especially when you were the one out of us lot who got the majestics , we were all jealous dude
Gene-r Posted January 14, 2014 Author Posted January 14, 2014 (edited) On 14/01/2014 at 16:03, Karl s said: Gene you never cease to amaze me especially when you were the one out of us lot who got the majestics , we were all jealous dude Those were the days, Karl! Glad you've got back in touch after nearly 30 years as well! Edited January 14, 2014 by Gene-R
Pete S Posted January 14, 2014 Posted January 14, 2014 On 14/01/2014 at 15:55, Ernie Andrews said: Maybe to cater for those who only had 78 players Pete. Some people still only have Black & white TVs but not for much longer! 78 only players? What, from the 40's?
Gene-r Posted January 14, 2014 Author Posted January 14, 2014 On 14/01/2014 at 16:11, Pete S said: 78 only players? What, from the 40's? Countries like India were still producing portable gramophones well into the 1960s, like the one in the pic below. I believe Thorens made the springs. In fact, all the reproduction gramophones that sell over here on places like Ebay are still made in India today!
Karl s Posted January 14, 2014 Posted January 14, 2014 I thought i was going back in time trying to get a garrard deck original sound man style
Gene-r Posted January 14, 2014 Author Posted January 14, 2014 On 14/01/2014 at 16:34, Karl s said: I thought i was going back in time trying to get a garrard deck original sound man style Karl, you can still get a decent Garrard 4HF on Ebay occasionally. I got mine from there 8 years ago for £55 (they're quite a bit more now), but had to pay over £300 to recondition it, as some of the rubber flex was disintegrating, and it needed a greasing and general service. I mounted it on an old Goldring GL75 plinth, and to this day it's still my main turntable at home (pic below). As far as I know, Jah Shaka still uses one when he plays out.
Guest Posted January 14, 2014 Posted January 14, 2014 Goes to show there are some real gems out there.
Karl s Posted January 14, 2014 Posted January 14, 2014 Being a shaka ite thats exactly why i want one , trust you to have one bet you got a technic as well , seriously though thats beautiful dude , where did u get it revamped looks new
Gene-r Posted January 14, 2014 Author Posted January 14, 2014 (edited) On 14/01/2014 at 17:25, Karl s said: Being a shaka ite thats exactly why i want one , trust you to have one bet you got a technic as well , seriously though thats beautiful dude , where did u get it revamped looks new Visually, it was near perfect (bar a little tarnishing to the chrome arm), so that didn't need seeing to. The technical maintenance was carried out by London Sound in Raynes Park, West London. https://www.londonsound.org/ Never had a Technics turntable, though that would be my next weapon of choice! What I love about the 4HF is that it has 4 speeds, which means it also plays 78s (ideal for my Vera Lynn collection! ). Edited January 14, 2014 by Gene-R
Guest sharmo 1 Posted January 14, 2014 Posted January 14, 2014 On 14/01/2014 at 15:50, Gene-R said: Apparently, Sharmo, 78s were still being pressed in the Phillipines, Brazil and India as late as 1966 (maybe later, who knows?). I don't know if this is of help. Some of this video shows Prince Philip visiting Decca's pressing plant in 1957, and how 78s are pressed (I think). PS - there's no sound with the film. https://www.britishpathe.com/video/prince-philip-visits-decca-factories/query/joy That was interesting that chap smashing the ols 78's up didn't seemed bothered by a lot did he ? The machine with the rollers is a Banbury calendar and are still used today I think Quinvey on here used to work one at the old Wardle Storey's plant in Earby. thank You.
Guest julesp1905 Posted January 14, 2014 Posted January 14, 2014 The Beatles 78's from India are worth a small fortune
Gene-r Posted January 14, 2014 Author Posted January 14, 2014 On 14/01/2014 at 17:35, sharmo 1 said: That was interesting that chap smashing the ols 78's up didn't seemed bothered by a lot did he ? They were obviously factory rejects, though at the same time I'd hate to think what future rarities would have been amongst that lot!
Gene-r Posted January 14, 2014 Author Posted January 14, 2014 (edited) On 14/01/2014 at 17:35, julesp1905 said: The Beatles 78's from India are worth a small fortune Yep - certainly in the higher three-figure sums. Beatle 78s weren't just pressed in India though, but also in: Argentina https://www.45worlds.com/78rpm/record/75202 Phillippines https://www.45worlds.com/78rpm/record/pal60263 Colombia https://www.45worlds.com/78rpm/record/nco300938 ....and, of course, India https://www.45worlds.com/78rpm/record/r5084 Edited January 14, 2014 by Gene-R
Gene-r Posted January 14, 2014 Author Posted January 14, 2014 And for those who have yet to hear a Beatles 78 playing: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7kCkrVN6w3A
Guest Posted January 14, 2014 Posted January 14, 2014 On 14/01/2014 at 17:27, Gene-R said: Visually, it was near perfect (bar a little tarnishing to the chrome arm), so that didn't need seeing to. The technical maintenance was carried out by London Sound in Raynes Park, West London. https://www.londonsound.org/ Never had a Technics turntable, though that would be my next weapon of choice! What I love about the 4HF is that it has 4 speeds, which means it also plays 78s (ideal for my Vera Lynn collection! ). Would love a garrad 4hf myself but they are silly money now a freind of mine builds period valve sounds systems and has garrards.
Gene-r Posted January 14, 2014 Author Posted January 14, 2014 (edited) On 14/01/2014 at 21:21, soulontop said: Would love a garrad 4hf myself but they are silly money now a freind of mine builds period valve sounds systems and has garrards. You can probably get a 4HF on Ebay in reasonable nick for about £150 without a plinth. Obviously the Garrard 301 and 401 really do go for a king's ransom, but the 4HF does at least come with its own tonearm! One here actually: https://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/GARRARD-4HF-H-IDLER-DRIVE-TURNTABLE-WORKING-/121253412240?pt=UK_AudioTVElectronics_HomeAudioHiFi_Turntables&hash=item1c3b443d90 Edited January 14, 2014 by Gene-R
Mr Smithy Posted January 14, 2014 Posted January 14, 2014 There is the other advantage of 78s, they have a monster sound unlike anything else. I could think of a few 45s that would sound incredible on 78.
Gene-r Posted January 14, 2014 Author Posted January 14, 2014 On 14/01/2014 at 22:08, Mr Smithy said: There is the other advantage of 78s, they have a monster sound unlike anything else. I could think of a few 45s that would sound incredible on 78. Absolutely - due largely to both deep grooves and the fast speed they play at.
Amsterdam Russ Posted January 16, 2014 Posted January 16, 2014 Amazing what you can find on a 78! https://youtu.be/7NDEr4ZI8Wc In this case, an unreleased recording from The Ramblers, a group* that would evolve into the Fabulous Playboys and The Falcons. * Background on the group(s) known as The Falcons & The Ramblers: https://www.uncamarvy.com/Falcons/falcons.html
Rotherham Soul Posted January 17, 2014 Posted January 17, 2014 even motown had a dabble in shellac (via the Phillipines)
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