A Review Of My First Live Wigan Casino Tape

[Wiganer1]

hope this doesnt bore u too much...something i wrote a few years back on the first live wigan tape i got...

here goes......

What Wigan means to me

If not going to Wigan Casino didnt change my life which it did ,the day my mate Bof gave me my first taste of how Wigan Casino used to sounds like ,wow what would i be doing now if not.

Anyway heres a run down of my favourite live tape at Wigan Casino

Its 1978,its the 5th Anniversary its a lock out and Russ is on the decks and here is what he played on that night ..

Adlibs - New York in the dark

AGP rarity that is still hard to find today. Nice oldie to start off with. Was booted on a white label then also released on UK Inferno ,popular with the crowd.

Tommy Bush - I dont like it - Just been pressed came the annoucement

This is a great oldie that rarely gets played today maybe cause originals are again difficult to trace.Will have its day again no doubt.

Charlie Gracie - He'll never love you like I do next on Stomp,stomp, stomp, huge applause at the end,nice forgotten oldie on Diamond

Dana Valery - Backtracking as Russ puts it,,that thunderous beat pounds out of the speakers.Going for big money now on Colombia (glad i got mine cheap) also booted on CSP and Pusseycat which I'm told is one the very first Wigan pressings.

Barry Gray Orchestra - Joe 90 Theme

Alot would say the worst of Wigan and Russ sounds embarrassed by announcing it but you get the impression by the atmosphere and the claps in all the right places that people are dancing to it and enjoying it

Lou Roberts - Ten to one - Back to the Classic Wigan tracks and maybe a classic Wigan artist ,Ten to one being one of his best gets the place going yet again.

Stemmons Express - Woman Love thief - Wow this wakes the place up immediate handclaps to the opening beats to this Wand/Karma rarity This is classic Wigan Atmosphere. One clap then a hundred then five hundred ,fantastic.

Honeybees - She dont deserve you - Think a Russ exclusive a super mid tempo floater on Fontana that would probably go down great today.

Bobby Paris - Night Owl - Although a torch record I think this is one that Wigan adopted and certainly the crowd on this night go wild and is again fantastic to listen to

Sergio Mendes - Love Music - One of my all time favourite Wigan sounds and one I spun at my spot at Lowton. The reaction to this record is superb with everyone it seems , cruelly forgotten 45 but I try to play every time i Dj.

Paul Anka - I cant help loving you - the next to come thundering through the speakers and this classic uptempo track just belts out no wonder its remained a favourite many years later.

Peggy March - If you love me - I gather this was massive for quite a few months,,massive reaction and instant clapping greet this tune,,poppy vocals and you see why it was big but would probably be frowned upon if played today.

Tobi Legend - Time will pass you by - Again super reaction to this Wigan anthem although I have heard it was first played at the mecca - who knows and who cares.Uplifting just listening to it,Handclaps galore just utterly fantastic!

Carmel Strings - I hear a symphony - One of Russ's faves as he plays this in 76 too, Instrumental to the Supremes motown vocal.Sounds great live but one of those thats a bit flat on your record player!

Esko Affair - Salt and Pepper - 'Right up to date' Russ announces and this very poppy but catchy tune from Mercury that I personally love but again would not find many fans these days.Sounds good though and goes down well with the crowd in that night.

Teddy Vann - Colouredman

Again a monster from this period ,not classy but a 'right for the time' sound I suppose.Anyway the clapping on this is superb with the last part of the record a crescendo of atmosphere and handclaps.

Royal Vibes - The joker

One of many versions of this instrumental and this is one certainly get the wigan treatment. Pressed on Bee and is very uptempo

Casusaleers - Dance Dance Dance - This brilliant oldie carries on in the same previous sounds ,uptempo,atmospheric and 100% northern soul.Quite hard to pick up on Roulette.

Diane Newby - Everythings wrong - Three versions of this and for me this is easily the best.On the US Kapp label this is more upbeat than the other two.I think itd be safe to say not played at all since the Wigan days. Revival time methinks!

Lesley Gore - We know we're in love - Pure 100% uptempo pop which seems popular but well disappeared long ago,there were a few sounds from this lady but all in the same vein,not regarded as classics

Dean Courtney - I'll always need you - Classic 45,sounds great on this tape...superb!

Paulbearers - Music with soul - This is one of my favourite uptempo Wigan oldies .Fast ,frantic and forgotten , On fontana (also on Delphi) this too could have its day once again.

Ambassadors - Too much of a good thing - This Pee Vee rarity still sounds good today as it does on this tape.Those horns immediately hit you and youre off ,great stuff

Mystic Moods - Astral Trip - Instrumentals again and this is one of my all time favourite Wigan sounds,If this came on these days I'd probably be the only one the floor but I love it as I do with all the tracks on this tape

Libra - Appollo 11 - This was covered as the mystic moods - out of this world and I suspect didn't do alot but is quite an atmospheric tune and extremely difficult to find and is on Ranwood ,picked mine up from Dave Raistrick about 84.

Karen Young - Too much of a good thing

This a UK item on Major Minor and one popular enough to be booted on US Soul Fox and this again very poppy and very Wigan I suppose,price is shooting up again ,one I think for future revival

Holly St James - Thats not love

This record seems to have been big forever ,,it certainly was in 1978.I know this was big for Richard but obviously Russ a copy too or he may have been playing of the Soul Fox pressing,Either way this record brings the house down

Buckinghams - Dont you care

One of my favourite Wigan sounds,poppy but catchy and moody vocals make it a winner for me. They had a few sounds played at Wigan (You misunderstand me is good too) but this has it for me and its still a cheapie on Colombia and UK CBS

Reflections - Like adam and eve

Wow it sounds like the whole place is in its element here superb handclaps and atmosphere.You can just close your eyes and you think you were there.Superb!! Black ABC issues are quite scarce

Johnny Hampton - Not my girl

What Russ playing detroit!! Yes this monster on Dottys is next on the turntable and sounds great. Again this was pressed about this time but the original has remained rare.

Edward Hamilton - Baby dont you weep

No introduction need for this baby jane and UK grapevine rarity. Im not sure if this was a Wigan sound or discovered at the Torch

Danny Monday - Baby without you

This one a Wigan Discovery announces Russ and how brilliant it sounds too.I havent played this for years.One lucky things is that the boots are near perfect

Deena Johnson - Im a sad girl

I once had Gary Rushbrooke and Steve Whittle in the car outside stafford trying to identify this 45 on US Simpson(im still doing this 20 years on!!).Great little tune and not too expensive.

Linda Elliot - I fell in love with you baby

One of my ALL TIME favourites this ,same as the Charts on Wand but more soulful and midtempo and one I just had to get and I obtained mine at stafford for 3 quid. Its on US Josie. Superb

Dena Barnes - If you ever walked out of my life

Another classic and also a difficult Grapevine 45 to pick up

Barry Gray Orch. - Joe 90

2nd time around for this and again no boos either!Someone must have liked it,Im glad I was too young you cant blame me

Ral Donner - Dont let it slip away

Another one of those 'right time at the right place' records which was big enough to be issued on Inferno. Probably would never see a turntable nowadays but still sounds great.

Lee Roye - Tears

Fabulous oldie that gets the Wigan treatment here. The clapping at the first chorus has to be heard to be believed.Superb

there you go 20 years later and 101 live wigan tapes on,,still collecting the tapes and then the records from them,,,

if u have any im always interested in buying ..selling or swapping for more

regards

mark 'fluff' freeman

Edited October 1, 2008 by wiganer1

[grant]

hope this doesnt bore u too much...something i wrote a few years back on the first live wigan tape i got...

here goes......

What Wigan means to me

If not going to Wigan Casino didnt change my life which it did ,the day my mate Bof gave me my first taste of how Wigan Casino used to sounds like ,wow what would i be doing now if not.

Anyway heres a run down of my favourite live tape at Wigan Casino

Its 1978,its the 5th Anniversary its a lock out and Russ is on the decks and here is what he played on that night ..

Adlibs - New York in the dark

AGP rarity that is still hard to find today. Nice oldie to start off with. Was booted on a white label then also released on UK Inferno ,popular with the crowd.

Tommy Bush - I dont like it - Just been pressed came the annoucement

This is a great oldie that rarely gets played today maybe cause originals are again difficult to trace.Will have its day again no doubt.

Charlie Gracie - He'll never love you like I do next on Stomp,stomp, stomp, huge applause at the end,nice forgotten oldie on Diamond

Dana Valery - Backtracking as Russ puts it,,that thunderous beat pounds out of the speakers.Going for big money now on Colombia (glad i got mine cheap) also booted on CSP and Pusseycat which I'm told is one the very first Wigan pressings.

Barry Gray Orchestra - Joe 90 Theme

Alot would say the worst of Wigan and Russ sounds embarrassed by announcing it but you get the impression by the atmosphere and the claps in all the right places that people are dancing to it and enjoying it

Lou Roberts - Ten to one - Back to the Classic Wigan tracks and maybe a classic Wigan artist ,Ten to one being one of his best gets the place going yet again.

Stemmons Express - Woman Love thief - Wow this wakes the place up immediate handclaps to the opening beats to this Wand/Karma rarity This is classic Wigan Atmosphere. One clap then a hundred then five hundred ,fantastic.

Honeybees - She dont deserve you - Think a Russ exclusive a super mid tempo floater on Fontana that would probably go down great today.

Bobby Paris - Night Owl - Although a torch record I think this is one that Wigan adopted and certainly the crowd on this night go wild and is again fantastic to listen to

Sergio Mendes - Love Music - One of my all time favourite Wigan sounds and one I spun at my spot at Lowton. The reaction to this record is superb with everyone it seems , cruelly forgotten 45 but I try to play every time i Dj.

Paul Anka - I cant help loving you - the next to come thundering through the speakers and this classic uptempo track just belts out no wonder its remained a favourite many years later.

Peggy March - If you love me - I gather this was massive for quite a few months,,massive reaction and instant clapping greet this tune,,poppy vocals and you see why it was big but would probably be frowned upon if played today.

Tobi Legend - Time will pass you by - Again super reaction to this Wigan anthem although I have heard it was first played at the mecca - who knows and who cares.Uplifting just listening to it,Handclaps galore just utterly fantastic!

Carmel Strings - I hear a symphony - One of Russ's faves as he plays this in 76 too, Instrumental to the Supremes motown vocal.Sounds great live but one of those thats a bit flat on your record player!

Esko Affair - Salt and Pepper - 'Right up to date' Russ announces and this very poppy but catchy tune from Mercury that I personally love but again would not find many fans these days.Sounds good though and goes down well with the crowd in that night.

Teddy Vann - Colouredman

Again a monster from this period ,not classy but a 'right for the time' sound I suppose.Anyway the clapping on this is superb with the last part of the record a crescendo of atmosphere and handclaps.

Royal Vibes - The joker

One of many versions of this instrumental and this is one certainly get the wigan treatment. Pressed on Bee and is very uptempo

Casusaleers - Dance Dance Dance - This brilliant oldie carries on in the same previous sounds ,uptempo,atmospheric and 100% northern soul.Quite hard to pick up on Roulette.

Diane Newby - Everythings wrong - Three versions of this and for me this is easily the best.On the US Kapp label this is more upbeat than the other two.I think itd be safe to say not played at all since the Wigan days. Revival time methinks!

Lesley Gore - We know we're in love - Pure 100% uptempo pop which seems popular but well disappeared long ago,there were a few sounds from this lady but all in the same vein,not regarded as classics

Dean Courtney - I'll always need you - Classic 45,sounds great on this tape...superb!

Paulbearers - Music with soul - This is one of my favourite uptempo Wigan oldies .Fast ,frantic and forgotten , On fontana (also on Delphi) this too could have its day once again.

Ambassadors - Too much of a good thing - This Pee Vee rarity still sounds good today as it does on this tape.Those horns immediately hit you and youre off ,great stuff

Mystic Moods - Astral Trip - Instrumentals again and this is one of my all time favourite Wigan sounds,If this came on these days I'd probably be the only one the floor but I love it as I do with all the tracks on this tape

Libra - Appollo 11 - This was covered as the mystic moods - out of this world and I suspect didn't do alot but is quite an atmospheric tune and extremely difficult to find and is on Ranwood ,picked mine up from Dave Raistrick about 84.

Karen Young - Too much of a good thing

This a UK item on Major Minor and one popular enough to be booted on US Soul Fox and this again very poppy and very Wigan I suppose,price is shooting up again ,one I think for future revival

Holly St James - Thats not love

This record seems to have been big forever ,,it certainly was in 1978.I know this was big for Richard but obviously Russ a copy too or he may have been playing of the Soul Fox pressing,Either way this record brings the house down

Buckinghams - Dont you care

One of my favourite Wigan sounds,poppy but catchy and moody vocals make it a winner for me. They had a few sounds played at Wigan (You misunderstand me is good too) but this has it for me and its still a cheapie on Colombia and UK CBS

Reflections - Like adam and eve

Wow it sounds like the whole place is in its element here superb handclaps and atmosphere.You can just close your eyes and you think you were there.Superb!! Black ABC issues are quite scarce

Johnny Hampton - Not my girl

What Russ playing detroit!! Yes this monster on Dottys is next on the turntable and sounds great. Again this was pressed about this time but the original has remained rare.

Edward Hamilton - Baby dont you weep

No introduction need for this baby jane and UK grapevine rarity. Im not sure if this was a Wigan sound or discovered at the Torch

Danny Monday - Baby without you

This one a Wigan Discovery announces Russ and how brilliant it sounds too.I havent played this for years.One lucky things is that the boots are near perfect

Deena Johnson - Im a sad girl

I once had Gary Rushbrooke and Steve Whittle in the car outside stafford trying to identify this 45 on US Simpson(im still doing this 20 years on!!).Great little tune and not too expensive.

Linda Elliot - I fell in love with you baby

One of my ALL TIME favourites this ,same as the Charts on Wand but more soulful and midtempo and one I just had to get and I obtained mine at stafford for 3 quid. Its on US Josie. Superb

Dena Barnes - If you ever walked out of my life

Another classic and also a difficult Grapevine 45 to pick up

Barry Gray Orch. - Joe 90

2nd time around for this and again no boos either!Someone must have liked it,Im glad I was too young you cant blame me

Ral Donner - Dont let it slip away

Another one of those 'right time at the right place' records which was big enough to be issued on Inferno. Probably would never see a turntable nowadays but still sounds great.

Lee Roye - Tears

Fabulous oldie that gets the Wigan treatment here. The clapping at the first chorus has to be heard to be believed.Superb

there you go 20 years later and 101 live wigan tapes on,,still collecting the tapes and then the records from them,,,

if u have any im always interested in buying ..selling or swapping for more

regards

mark 'fluff'

Heard this CD - great atmosphere and I would have been there around the time!

[Guest Dan]

Joe 90 twice, oh dear

having said that, the only regret in my life musically is that i wasn't old enough to go to wigan at its heyday (or ever). i know people slag it off but imagine being in there, completely off your tits and dancing to edward hamilton or the ambassadors with hundreds of others. would have been absolutely awesome. we came close in our day at places like the oddfellows and morecambe but nothing as big as that .

as an aside, has anyone got any 100 club tapes from the early days?

[John Al]

hope this doesnt bore u too much...something i wrote a few years back on the first live wigan tape i got...

I have a couple of Wigan tapes somewhere, recorded whilst sat on the stage with portable cassette recorder and mike on top of speakers. Talk about a wall of noise!!!

Peggy March reaction is astounding on the tape I have too. Couldn't get a look in now but back then, you can literally hear everyone going "ooooh" and rushing on to the floor. And yes, I am still buying these records, got Dutch Robinson (Eddie Kendricks c/u) in post this morning.

Best bit though is when batteries start to run down and tape runs more slowly. Get it home and play it back and it's all speeded up. Ila Vann "Can't Help Lovin Dat Man" sounding like a 200 mph stomper sung by Pinky and Perky!

Ah, happy days.

John.

[Guest trickbag]

never been to wigan,could imagine what it was likeif these four are anything to go by.

ricky.

sock it to em shorty.

ommy_Bush___I_Don_t_Like_It.mp3

Stemmons_Express___Woman_Lover_Thief.mp3

lou__roberts______ten__to__one.mp3

Charlie_Gracie___He_ll_Never_Love_You_Like_I_Do.mp3

Ad_Libs___New_York_In_The_Dark.mp3

[Steve G]

Thanks for reminding us just how awful Russ's spots were Seriously for a moment Pallbearers / Stemmons Express were great sounds, and Linda Elliot wasn't half bad either. Of course the oldies like Edward Hamilton were also good. I am surprised there's no space for Willie Hutch "Love games" which was one of the best records Russ played at Wigan - he always seemed to play it, and it was one of the highlights of his set. You are right there was a lot of pop played at this point in the Casino's career, and yes it was popular and filled the floor with lots of claps etc. We cannot re-write history on this point - as I have said elsewhere that's why a number of us stopped going. Also thought Helen Shapiro "Stop" was a monster at this time, or was that earlier? Didn't think Richard was responsible for Holly St James though? Thought that was one of Russ's, though wonders never cease.

[Guest]

Nice peice that Mark & certainly not boring ! Got to agree with someone else about some of the content of Russ's set, but i suppose that is what the crowd at that time wanted.

Will definatley try & fish out that 5th Oldies anniversary tape for you

[Winsford Soul]

hope this doesnt bore u too much...something i wrote a few years back on the first live wigan tape i got...

here goes......

What Wigan means to me

If not going to Wigan Casino didnt change my life which it did ,the day my mate Bof gave me my first taste of how Wigan Casino used to sounds like ,wow what would i be doing now if not.

Anyway heres a run down of my favourite live tape at Wigan Casino

Its 1978,its the 5th Anniversary its a lock out and Russ is on the decks and here is what he played on that night ..

Adlibs - New York in the dark

AGP rarity that is still hard to find today. Nice oldie to start off with. Was booted on a white label then also released on UK Inferno ,popular with the crowd.

Tommy Bush - I dont like it - Just been pressed came the annoucement

This is a great oldie that rarely gets played today maybe cause originals are again difficult to trace.Will have its day again no doubt.

Charlie Gracie - He'll never love you like I do next on Stomp,stomp, stomp, huge applause at the end,nice forgotten oldie on Diamond

Dana Valery - Backtracking as Russ puts it,,that thunderous beat pounds out of the speakers.Going for big money now on Colombia (glad i got mine cheap) also booted on CSP and Pusseycat which I'm told is one the very first Wigan pressings.

Barry Gray Orchestra - Joe 90 Theme

Alot would say the worst of Wigan and Russ sounds embarrassed by announcing it but you get the impression by the atmosphere and the claps in all the right places that people are dancing to it and enjoying it

Lou Roberts - Ten to one - Back to the Classic Wigan tracks and maybe a classic Wigan artist ,Ten to one being one of his best gets the place going yet again.

Stemmons Express - Woman Love thief - Wow this wakes the place up immediate handclaps to the opening beats to this Wand/Karma rarity This is classic Wigan Atmosphere. One clap then a hundred then five hundred ,fantastic.

Honeybees - She dont deserve you - Think a Russ exclusive a super mid tempo floater on Fontana that would probably go down great today.

Bobby Paris - Night Owl - Although a torch record I think this is one that Wigan adopted and certainly the crowd on this night go wild and is again fantastic to listen to

Sergio Mendes - Love Music - One of my all time favourite Wigan sounds and one I spun at my spot at Lowton. The reaction to this record is superb with everyone it seems , cruelly forgotten 45 but I try to play every time i Dj.

Paul Anka - I cant help loving you - the next to come thundering through the speakers and this classic uptempo track just belts out no wonder its remained a favourite many years later.

Peggy March - If you love me - I gather this was massive for quite a few months,,massive reaction and instant clapping greet this tune,,poppy vocals and you see why it was big but would probably be frowned upon if played today.

Tobi Legend - Time will pass you by - Again super reaction to this Wigan anthem although I have heard it was first played at the mecca - who knows and who cares.Uplifting just listening to it,Handclaps galore just utterly fantastic!

Carmel Strings - I hear a symphony - One of Russ's faves as he plays this in 76 too, Instrumental to the Supremes motown vocal.Sounds great live but one of those thats a bit flat on your record player!

Esko Affair - Salt and Pepper - 'Right up to date' Russ announces and this very poppy but catchy tune from Mercury that I personally love but again would not find many fans these days.Sounds good though and goes down well with the crowd in that night.

Teddy Vann - Colouredman

Again a monster from this period ,not classy but a 'right for the time' sound I suppose.Anyway the clapping on this is superb with the last part of the record a crescendo of atmosphere and handclaps.

Royal Vibes - The joker

One of many versions of this instrumental and this is one certainly get the wigan treatment. Pressed on Bee and is very uptempo

Casusaleers - Dance Dance Dance - This brilliant oldie carries on in the same previous sounds ,uptempo,atmospheric and 100% northern soul.Quite hard to pick up on Roulette.

Diane Newby - Everythings wrong - Three versions of this and for me this is easily the best.On the US Kapp label this is more upbeat than the other two.I think itd be safe to say not played at all since the Wigan days. Revival time methinks!

Lesley Gore - We know we're in love - Pure 100% uptempo pop which seems popular but well disappeared long ago,there were a few sounds from this lady but all in the same vein,not regarded as classics

Dean Courtney - I'll always need you - Classic 45,sounds great on this tape...superb!

Paulbearers - Music with soul - This is one of my favourite uptempo Wigan oldies .Fast ,frantic and forgotten , On fontana (also on Delphi) this too could have its day once again.

Ambassadors - Too much of a good thing - This Pee Vee rarity still sounds good today as it does on this tape.Those horns immediately hit you and youre off ,great stuff

Mystic Moods - Astral Trip - Instrumentals again and this is one of my all time favourite Wigan sounds,If this came on these days I'd probably be the only one the floor but I love it as I do with all the tracks on this tape

Libra - Appollo 11 - This was covered as the mystic moods - out of this world and I suspect didn't do alot but is quite an atmospheric tune and extremely difficult to find and is on Ranwood ,picked mine up from Dave Raistrick about 84.

Karen Young - Too much of a good thing

This a UK item on Major Minor and one popular enough to be booted on US Soul Fox and this again very poppy and very Wigan I suppose,price is shooting up again ,one I think for future revival

Holly St James - Thats not love

This record seems to have been big forever ,,it certainly was in 1978.I know this was big for Richard but obviously Russ a copy too or he may have been playing of the Soul Fox pressing,Either way this record brings the house down

Buckinghams - Dont you care

One of my favourite Wigan sounds,poppy but catchy and moody vocals make it a winner for me. They had a few sounds played at Wigan (You misunderstand me is good too) but this has it for me and its still a cheapie on Colombia and UK CBS

Reflections - Like adam and eve

Wow it sounds like the whole place is in its element here superb handclaps and atmosphere.You can just close your eyes and you think you were there.Superb!! Black ABC issues are quite scarce

Johnny Hampton - Not my girl

What Russ playing detroit!! Yes this monster on Dottys is next on the turntable and sounds great. Again this was pressed about this time but the original has remained rare.

Edward Hamilton - Baby dont you weep

No introduction need for this baby jane and UK grapevine rarity. Im not sure if this was a Wigan sound or discovered at the Torch

Danny Monday - Baby without you

This one a Wigan Discovery announces Russ and how brilliant it sounds too.I havent played this for years.One lucky things is that the boots are near perfect

Deena Johnson - Im a sad girl

I once had Gary Rushbrooke and Steve Whittle in the car outside stafford trying to identify this 45 on US Simpson(im still doing this 20 years on!!).Great little tune and not too expensive.

Linda Elliot - I fell in love with you baby

One of my ALL TIME favourites this ,same as the Charts on Wand but more soulful and midtempo and one I just had to get and I obtained mine at stafford for 3 quid. Its on US Josie. Superb

Dena Barnes - If you ever walked out of my life

Another classic and also a difficult Grapevine 45 to pick up

Barry Gray Orch. - Joe 90

2nd time around for this and again no boos either!Someone must have liked it,Im glad I was too young you cant blame me

Ral Donner - Dont let it slip away

Another one of those 'right time at the right place' records which was big enough to be issued on Inferno. Probably would never see a turntable nowadays but still sounds great.

Lee Roye - Tears

Fabulous oldie that gets the Wigan treatment here. The clapping at the first chorus has to be heard to be believed.Superb

there you go 20 years later and 101 live wigan tapes on,,still collecting the tapes and then the records from them,,,

if u have any im always interested in buying ..selling or swapping for more

regards

mark 'fluff'

Nice one Mark. Will play quite a few of the above at next Leicester. So if you want to avoid them i,m on 11pm thru midnight. If not enjoy them for what they are, for dancers.

Steve

[Guest Matt Male]

Peggy March - If you love me - I gather this was massive for quite a few months,,massive reaction and instant clapping greet this tune,,poppy vocals and you see why it was big but would probably be frowned upon if played today.

mark 'fluff'

I still have a soft spot for this, probably because it was one of the big youth club tunes in 1978.

I'll play it at The Crew in September just for you Mark

[Guest Netspeaky]

Of course it was spot the soul record, but the Casino did bounce to these tunes and if you went there they are part of your life, and certain records still sound great when played out in the right place with the right crowd. I don't knock these sound (well maybe Joe90) I've just moved on.

[Eamesy]

never been to wigan,could imagine what it was likeif these four are anything to go by.

ricky.

sock it to em shorty.

Mark,

Great article mate, i'd stopped going by that time, but some great stuff there that still sounds good now will only ever remind me of one place - Wigan Casino. Foranyone who never went, your collection of live tapes must be a priceless insight into the atmosphere that i've never known since. No live tapes left myself now, but well remember the old cassette recorder left on the edge of the balcony with mic hanging over the side!

How well that Chris Cark would have gone down then!!!

Alan

[Soulsmith]

Esko Affair - Salt and Pepper

Any one got an mp3? I had completely forgotten this.

Cheers

Col.

[Soulsmith]

"Dana Valery - Backtracking as Russ puts it,,that thunderous beat pounds out of the speakers.Going for big money now on Colombia (glad i got mine cheap) also booted on CSP and Pusseycat which I'm told is one the very first Wigan pressing"

CSP - Columbia Special Pressings. Were they boots or re-issues?

[Simon T]

Esko Affair - Salt and Pepper

Any one got an mp3? I had completely forgotten this.

Sometimes completely forgeting a records is a blessing!

[Guest Bearsoul]

must admit i was one of those rushing onto the floor for Peggy March.....had some mad times there but always good.....loved it....still loving my music though......but Wigan was my spiritual home............actually felt like i'd come home first time i struggled through the scrum at the desk and eventually got up the stairs throgh the doors and saw the floor.....then sitting in the balcony watching everyone spin to 'Like Adam & Eve' was absolutely spell-binding.......first record i heard going up the stairs was Percy Wiggins...never forget that...took me 6 months to get it , cost me a fiver then on black issue...thought i'd died and gone to heaven when i got it home and played it over and over !!!......HAPPY DAYS

chris m

[Guest in town Mikey]

Excellent piece. And seeing the set list really captures that time.

I dont care if nearly 30 years later some tracks arent played anymore.

And thanks for reminding me of Charlie Gracie. I'm going to be humming that to myself all day now, and rushing home tonight to play the clip Mr Hound has posted. (To see if i really can remember how it goes, after 20 odd years of not hearing it)

Big thanks to both of you.

Edited June 28, 2006 by in town Mikey

[Guest martyn]

I cant remember;

Karen Young

Libra

Pallbearers

I must have heard them at the time.......Sound clips anyone?

[Stateside]

Doesn't half bring back memories but I stopped going by then mainly because of the pop stuff. Still got my membership card although it is covered in sellotape (Nov 1973) My favourite part of the evening was when it first opened and I would set my tape recorder up on the balcony and get all the new stuff on tape before they became big. It always seemed that they would try new stuff early doors. I was always amazed that it would sometimes take years for records to become big. But I suppose it is no different than radio, hammer a record enough times and eventually people will pick up on it. The first pressings I ever bought at Wigan were.

Sweets - Satisfy me baby - Soultown

Glories

Dana Valery

Mel Williams

Gems -

Moses Smith(Epitome of sound) - You don't love me ( I still play this speeded up version because that's how I like to remember it)

Frank Beverley

Rocky Roberts

Fabulous Jades -

Tony & Tyrone -

Funny really because I have never really wanted to own them all on original except Frank

PS. Mark, your post reminded me about the tapes, so I looked again, but couldn't find them. found some of those old soundhog tapes but they only had current stuff from 73/74 on them. I'll keep looking because I have definitely got some.

[Guest Soultown andy]

I was at the fifth anniversary with all the bolton crew[dave molloy,paul,gazo,pat cluxton etc]lots of pop but lots of atmosphere,you cant buy memories .

[grant]

I cant remember;

Karen Young

Libra

Pallbearers

I must have heard them at the time.......Sound clips anyone?

Karen Young mp3 is on my other thread now Martyn. Pallbearers - if noone posts it up before tonite will do it when i get home - cant help with Libra maybe Mark Freeman can download file for this - only heard it myself the other day on this very cd for Mark. Wierd instr. but quite atmospheric, I like it.

Grant

[Steve G]

"Dana Valery - Backtracking as Russ puts it,,that thunderous beat pounds out of the speakers.Going for big money now on Colombia (glad i got mine cheap) also booted on CSP and Pusseycat which I'm told is one the very first Wigan pressing"

CSP - Columbia Special Pressings. Were they boots or re-issues?

They were legal reissues.

Reminds me I went into this record store and this guy says to me "I've got two very rare records for you"...."They're not cheap, but they're right up your street"....He goes and unwraps these boxes and envelopes and wrapping etc to reveal Dana Valery and Bobby Diamond oN CSP.

I agree with some of the other comments on here- the Casino certainly rocked to these sounds, and it was the place to be at the time. I too was there on the 5th anniversary night, and seem to remember it being very good indeed.

[Guest Bearsoul]

THANK GOODNESS FOR THOSE TAPE RECORDERS, I REMEMBER MISSING A WEEK AND RICHARD HAD PLAYED ANOTHER BATCH OF NEW SOUNDS INCLUDING VICKI BAINES 'COUNTRY GIRL' ....I USED TO GET ON THE TRAIN AT SHREWSBURY AND ALL THE WOLVES ,COVENTRY GANG WERE ALREADY ON....I USED TO SETTLE INTO ONE OF THOSE SIDE CARRIAGES AND LISTEN TO WHAT I'D MISSED THE WEEK BEFORE AND ARRIVE AT WIGAN (VIA CREWE) PRIMED AND READY TO GO ....THAT TRAIN WAS MAD.....THE EXCITEMENT WAS TANGIBLE......EVERY NOW AND THEN THE CARRIAGE DOOR WOULD OPEN AND SOMEONE WOULD STICK THEIR HEAD IN AND ASK 'ANYONE WANT SOME GEAR' CAN'T THINK WHAT THEY MEANT BUT WHEN WE ALL ARRIVED IN WIGAN STATION WE WERE A HUGE BUZZING MASS...ALL WE HAD TO DO THEN WAS NEGOTIATE THE LOCAL TOUGHS WHO THOUGHT IT WOULD BE GOOD FUN TO ABUSE US...A FEW GOT A NASTY SHOCK MORE THAN ONCE........ANYONE GOT A TIME-MACHINE FOR SALE.?.AND SOME YOUTH-SERUM !!!!!!!!

[Steve G]

THANK GOODNESS FOR THOSE TAPE RECORDERS, I REMEMBER MISSING A WEEK AND RICHARD HAD PLAYED ANOTHER BATCH OF NEW SOUNDS INCLUDING VICKI BAINES 'COUNTRY GIRL' ....I USED TO GET ON THE TRAIN AT SHREWSBURY AND ALL THE WOLVES ,COVENTRY GANG WERE ALREADY ON....I USED TO SETTLE INTO ONE OF THOSE SIDE CARRIAGES AND LISTEN TO WHAT I'D MISSED THE WEEK BEFORE AND ARRIVE AT WIGAN (VIA CREWE) PRIMED AND READY TO GO ....THAT TRAIN WAS MAD.....THE EXCITEMENT WAS TANGIBLE......EVERY NOW AND THEN THE CARRIAGE DOOR WOULD OPEN AND SOMEONE WOULD STICK THEIR HEAD IN AND ASK 'ANYONE WANT SOME GEAR' CAN'T THINK WHAT THEY MEANT BUT WHEN WE ALL ARRIVED IN WIGAN STATION WE WERE A HUGE BUZZING MASS...ALL WE HAD TO DO THEN WAS NEGOTIATE THE LOCAL TOUGHS WHO THOUGHT IT WOULD BE GOOD FUN TO ABUSE US...A FEW GOT A NASTY SHOCK MORE THAN ONCE........ANYONE GOT A TIME-MACHINE FOR SALE.?.AND SOME YOUTH-SERUM !!!!!!!!

Were you there when the police held up the train and searched everyone getting off at Wigan? That would have been about 78. What a palava.

[Guest Bearsoul]

Were you there when the police held up the train and searched everyone getting off at Wigan? That would have been about 78. What a palava.

YEAH...AND WHEN THERE WAS A BIG FIGHT ON CREWE STATION...BETWEEN TWO LOADS OF FOOTIE FANS ...CAN'T REMEMBER WHICH TEAMS NOW BUT WE GOT CAUGHT IN THE MIDDLE, BOTTLES FLYING AND THEY WERE UNDOING LIGHTBULBS IN THE TRAINS A CHUCKING THEM...WE WERE TRYING TO GET OUT OF IT BECAUSE WE HAD LOADS OF GEAR ON US, DIDN'T REALLY FANCY GETTING NICKED AND SEARCHED...BUT WE GOT THERE IN THE END. WE GOT STOPPED A FEW TIMES, WE USED TO SPLIT UP AND MEET LATER.ALWAYS SEEMED TO GET AWAY WITH IT. HAD THE EDGE ON THE DIVIES!

I STARTED TAKING A PLAIN BAG AND WEARING A DUFFLE COAT AFTER A WHILE, LESS CONSPICUOUS

[Wiganer1]

[

PS. Mark, your post reminded me about the tapes, so I looked again, but couldn't find them. found some of those old soundhog tapes but they only had current stuff from 73/74 on them. I'll keep looking because I have definitely got some.

[Guest]

relections..adam & eve

reminds me of local miners welfare sunday night northern 1978,

wicked

[Wiganer1]

I was at the fifth anniversary with all the bolton crew[dave molloy,paul,gazo,pat cluxton etc]lots of pop but lots of atmosphere,you cant buy memories .

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one of my best mates on the scene,,,graham barber from cheltenham went too but he couldnt get it and was locked out til 5am....

i would have loved to have been there!

[Steve G]

YEAH...AND WHEN THERE WAS A BIG FIGHT ON CREWE STATION...BETWEEN TWO LOADS OF FOOTIE FANS ...CAN'T REMEMBER WHICH TEAMS NOW BUT WE GOT CAUGHT IN THE MIDDLE, BOTTLES FLYING AND THEY WERE UNDOING LIGHTBULBS IN THE TRAINS A CHUCKING THEM...WE WERE TRYING TO GET OUT OF IT BECAUSE WE HAD LOADS OF GEAR ON US, DIDN'T REALLY FANCY GETTING NICKED AND SEARCHED...BUT WE GOT THERE IN THE END. WE GOT STOPPED A FEW TIMES, WE USED TO SPLIT UP AND MEET LATER.ALWAYS SEEMED TO GET AWAY WITH IT. HAD THE EDGE ON THE DIVIES!

I STARTED TAKING A PLAIN BAG AND WEARING A DUFFLE COAT AFTER A WHILE, LESS CONSPICUOUS

Might have been after Man U v Liverpool Cup final in May 1977. I certainly travelled up on the train from London with both sets of supporters - not a very good idea!

[Guest Bearsoul]

Might have been after Man U v Liverpool Cup final in May 1977. I certainly travelled up on the train from London with both sets of supporters - not a very good idea!

No wasn't that one I think it may have been Wolves were heading north and maybe Man City were going to Villa and unfotunately met at crewe. memory not so good on that though....it wasn't pleaseant whoever it was...i was focussed on getting to Wigan

[Guest in town Mikey]

Charlie Gracie now my current fave oldie.

Cheers again guys

[Wiganer1]

Charlie Gracie now my current fave oldie.

Cheers again guys

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great record aint

on diamond on US and UK stateside...

he'll never love you like i do

brill stuff....

[Wiganer1]

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great record aint

on diamond on US and UK stateside...

he'll never love you like i do

brill stuff....

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illtry and post up 'tears' from the tape..it really is sensational!!

[Winsford Soul]

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great record aint

on diamond on US and UK stateside...

he'll never love you like i do

brill stuff....

My mate has a Stateside Demo in VG condition for sale but dont know how much its worth anyone any ideas ? Sorry mods i know its in the wrong place.

Steve

[Guest martyn]

Karen Young mp3 is on my other thread now Martyn. Pallbearers - if noone posts it up before tonite will do it when i get home - cant help with Libra maybe Mark Freeman can download file for this - only heard it myself the other day on this very cd for Mark. Wierd instr. but quite atmospheric, I like it.

Grant

Cheers mate,though for some reason my computer has taken an unreasonable stance against real player :angry: ...so I can't play it.

[grant]

martyn said:

Cheers mate,though for some reason my computer has taken an unreasonable stance against real player :angry: ...so I can't play it.

try this format mate

 

[Guest martyn]

try this format mate

Cheers mate-got it that time .........Remembered it sraight away! I used to rush to the floor for that Ahhh memories

[grant]

Cheers mate-got it that time .........Remembered it sraight away! I used to rush to the floor for that Ahhh memories

Kin'ell mate we must have bumped into each other as I was running away from the dancefloor when it came on - BUT sounds better now than it did then

[Soul Shrews]

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illtry and post up 'tears' from the tape..it really is sensational!!

My first Wigan 'nighter was the week after the 5th anniversary!

Thank's for the memorie's

[Guest martyn]

Kin'ell mate we must have bumped into each other as I was running away from the dancefloor when it came on - BUT sounds better now than it did then

[Stateside]

Just downloaded the Karen Young track as I have never heard it before and I'm afraid that it just sums up the pop rubbish that made me stop going. danceable it may be but soulful it ain't.

[Wiganer1]

Just downloaded the Karen Young track as I have never heard it before and I'm afraid that it just sums up the pop rubbish that made me stop going. danceable it may be but soulful it ain't.

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well she was white as they come i suppose,,,still goes for about £40 on UK ..

ill post up Richards spot from the same night a bit later to see the contrast in plays....

regards

mark

[Wiganer1]

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well she was white as they come i suppose,,,still goes for about £40 on UK ..

ill post up Richards spot from the same night a bit later to see the contrast in plays....

regards

mark

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now that refosoul is sorted - ill be uploading the tracks on this tape ..some great atmosphere on here!!

[Pete S]

What a pile of shite Russ is playing - but when you hear them in a different context i.e. the atmosphere of Wigan, they all metamorphosise into something entirely different!

[Wiganer1]

What a pile of shite Russ is playing - but when you hear them in a different context i.e. the atmosphere of Wigan, they all metamorphosise into something entirely different!

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one mans pile of shite pete is......

know what ure saying pete....refo down at the moment so cant post up,,

[Davetay]

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one mans pile of shite pete is......

know what ure saying pete....refo down at the moment so cant post up,,

Hi Mark, I,ve still got a few live tapes, one of special interest to Pete from April 74,

when Richard says 1st time ever at the Casino for the CARSTAIRS "IT REALLY HURTS ME GIRL"

this one going out to Judy.

Dave.

Edited September 17, 2008 by davetay

[Pete S]

Hi Mark, I,ve still got a few live tapes, one of special interest to Pete from April 74,

when Richard says 1st time ever at the Casino for the CARSTAIRS "IT REALLY HURTS ME GIRL"

this one going out to Judy.

Dave.

[Guest SteveJohnston]

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now that is very funny .....you f*^kin kill me

Edited September 17, 2008 by SteveJohnston

[Davetay]

I just knew you would love that one

[Pete S]

I just knew you would love that one

Looks like me actually

[Mach]

Soulsmith said:

Esko Affair - Salt and Pepper

Any one got an mp3? I had completely forgotten this.

Cheers

Col.

here you go col!...funny but still have a soft spot for this on the mercury label.i,ve got a white demo,some say the issues harder but i think there aint much in it..around £10/20 should surfice..quite easy to get coz there aint many takers..shame i like it....still..