Peter99 Posted January 6, 2014 Posted January 6, 2014 We've discussed this before and I pointed out that Dusty Springfield's version of 'What's It Gonna Be' WAS the original version. The truth is that the 45s were released at almost the same time. Susan Barrett's version may have been issued in August or September 1967 (I'm not certain) and Dusty's version was issued in September 1967 (UK) and November 1967 (US). Even if we could be sure that Susan's version was actually released before Dusty's, it would only have been by a few weeks and that doesn't make Dusty's a cover version because a few weeks wouldn't have been enough time. And why on earth would Dusty cover an obscure B side of a flop US record? Dusty's version was already recorded and it can be considered as the original version because it was produced by Jerry Ragovoy (uncredited) who wrote the song with Mort Shuman. They recorded the track in New York (Dusty's vocals may have been added to the track in London) and the sesssion was directed by Gary Sherman. Sherman had previously worked on some Barrett sessions for RCA so it's likely that he pitched the song to her or to her producer Paul Robinson. At that stage there was probably a guide vocal by a demo singer on the Ragovoy track, it would be interesting to know who it was. Personally, I think Dusty's version is far stronger, it's better sung and more soulful and of course it has those great backing vocals. Paul Evening Paul Interesting stuff mate thanks. I don't really mind which was first but Dusty's version just doesn't do it for me and comes in as an easy second. Like I said earlier it's all very subjective isn't it. Anyway, hope you're well Sir. Peter
Guest Paul Posted January 6, 2014 Posted January 6, 2014 We've discussed this before and I pointed out that Dusty Springfield's version of 'What's It Gonna Be' WAS the original version. The truth is that the 45s were released at almost the same time. Susan Barrett's version may have been issued in August or September 1967 (I'm not certain) and Dusty's version was issued in September 1967 (UK) and November 1967 (US). Even if we could be sure that Susan's version was actually released before Dusty's, it would only have been by a few weeks and that doesn't make Dusty's a cover version because a few weeks wouldn't have been enough time. And why on earth would Dusty cover an obscure B side of a flop US record? Dusty's version was already recorded and it can be considered as the original version because it was produced by Jerry Ragovoy (uncredited) who wrote the song with Mort Shuman. They recorded the track in New York (Dusty's vocals may have been added to the track in London) and the sesssion was directed by Gary Sherman. Sherman had previously worked on some Barrett sessions for RCA so it's likely that he pitched the song to her or to her producer Paul Robinson. At that stage there was probably a guide vocal by a demo singer on the Ragovoy track, it would be interesting to know who it was. Personally, I think Dusty's version is far stronger, it's better sung and more soulful and of course it has those great backing vocals. Paul By the way, the backing vocals on Dusty's version were by Nick Ashford, Valerie Simpson and Carole King.
hullsoul Posted January 6, 2014 Posted January 6, 2014 By the way, the backing vocals on Dusty's version were by Nick Ashford, Valerie Simpson and Carole King. Paul Wasn't there any proper backingsinger available Cheers Martyn 3
Dobber Posted January 7, 2014 Author Posted January 7, 2014 A lot of good sounds being played on your car stereos,iPods, and that old thing called vinyl! Haha Keep em coming guys! Lee
gazman Posted January 7, 2014 Posted January 7, 2014 6 songs that I have probably played the most in my wee record room last year. Joe Simon - Georgia Blue Al Castana and The Primettes - I need and love you Almeta Lattimore - These memories Clarence Haddon - Who is this The Mumy - Don't let the sun catch you crying Brenda Jones - Big mistake gary 1
boff Posted January 7, 2014 Posted January 7, 2014 Joyce Kennedy. I'm a good girl Soul stirrers Don't you worry Dee dee warwick. We got everything going for us Carl hall. My baby's so good Ray pollard. This time. Enjoyed listen to these in 2013... Boff,,,,,,
Guest subbo Posted January 8, 2014 Posted January 8, 2014 https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yP-XRP1HLRY&feature=youtube_gdata_player Played this a lot. Not expensive but sounding good to me.
Guest subbo Posted January 8, 2014 Posted January 8, 2014 https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6mnu03T1E_s&feature=youtube_gdata_player And I've found this popular.
Guest subbo Posted January 8, 2014 Posted January 8, 2014 https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XTe0hmqerhM&feature=youtube_gdata_player This was played on my early sets that I done. I do a monthly few hours for a bar in Edinburgh so not a soul crowd as such but it's really enjoyable because you can go in any direction musically.
Davebanks Posted January 8, 2014 Posted January 8, 2014 Just checked my itunes playlist and record box and relevant to this forum my top 5 of 2013 were; Soul children Were getting too close Gloria Shannon Tears Al Mcarther His true love for you Bobby Bland Members Only Monitors You are my destiny (bit of a dark secret I know, but I like it!) Bobby Womack and Nile Rodgers featured quite heavily but no particular tracks also started to rediscover the Isley Brothers. What a back catalogue they have. Dave Banks
Barry Posted January 8, 2014 Posted January 8, 2014 I play a mixed bag across a few venues and am choosing these mainly on the strength of reaction/request than owt else: 60's 1. Etta James & Sugar Pie DeSanto - In The Basement - Cadet 2. The Marvelows - Your Little Sister - ABC/Paramount 3. Yvonne Baker - Mend The Broken Pieces - Junior 4. Hector Rivera - Do It To Me - Barry 5. Marlena Shaw - Let's Wade In The Water - Cadet 6. Bobby Moore's Rhythm Aces - Go Ahead And Burn - Checker 7. Irene & The Scotts - Stuck On My Baby - Smash 8. Brenda Holloway - When I'm Gone - Tamla 9. King Errison - Zola - Canyon 10. Barbara Acklin - Am I The Same Girl - Brunswick 70's 1. Willi J & Co - Boogie With Your Baby - KiKi 2. The Chocolate Boys - Voltaire Pier - Trans Canada 3. Blacksmoke - What Goes Around - Chocolate City 4. Atlantic Starr - Don't Abuse My Love- A&M 5. Esther Phillips - Home Is Where The Hatred Is - Kudu 6. Cameo - Is This The Way - Chocolate City 7. Leon Thomas - L-O-V-E - Flying Dutchman 8. Donna McGhee - Mr Blindman - Anchor 9. Ann Sexton - You've Been Gone Too Long - S7 10. Patti Labelle - It's Alright With Me - Epic 80s 1. George Duke - I Want You For Myself - Epic 2. Brainstorm - We're On Our Way Home - Tabu 3. Sharon Paige - Tonight's The Night - Source 4. Hi Gloss - Totally Yours - Epic 5. Jewel - Paradise - Jewel 6. Sharon Redd - Can You Handle It - Epic 7. Rome Jeffries - Good Love - Rain 8. McCrarys - Love On A Summer Night - RCA 9. Cheri - Starstruck - 21 10. High Frequency - Summertime - NIA Misc 1. Bethea - One Eyed Dog In A Meathouse - Dynamo 2. The Firebolts - Everybody Party (Get Down) - Greenback 3. Willie Bobo - Fried Neckbones - Verve 4. Fred Wesley - Doin' It To Death - People] 5. Frank James & Shadow - Summertime - Supersonic 6. Sil Austin - Disco Music - Jerri 7. Jimmie Green - Dance - String 8. J.B.'s Wedge - Bessie Pt 2 - Brownstone 9. The Funkateers - Blow Bill Blow - Chocolate City 10. Ray Munnings - It Could Happen To You - Tammi
Andrea Ko Posted January 8, 2014 Posted January 8, 2014 Hi all, my 2013 top tunes are as follows: Sharon McMahon "Where There Is Love" The Harvey Averne Dozen "Never Learned To Dance" Sandy Golden "Your Love Is Everything" Larry Davies "I've Been Hurt So Many Times" Don't have them but they were always on my youtube! Andrea
Guest sharmo 1 Posted January 8, 2014 Posted January 8, 2014 Spins in the house last year were; 1, Velvet Underground........Sunday Morning. 2,Dillinger.....Cocaine . 3,Sex Pistols ....Anarchy.. 4,Soul Bros Inc...Teardrops. 5,Joe Adams......L.O.V.E. Regards Sharmo.
Mickjay33 Posted January 8, 2014 Posted January 8, 2014 MY 5 FOR 2013 VIRGIL HENRY you aint sayin nothin new SUSAN BARRATT WHATS IT GONNA BE TEMPTATIONS STAY STEEPLECHASE NEVER COMING BACK THE VAN DYKES SAVE MY LOVE FOR A RAINY DAY
Spacehopper Posted January 8, 2014 Posted January 8, 2014 (edited) umm 5 for 2013 inc playing out and home/car... 1. lend me your hand-kindly shepherds..had this for a few years now but other than once I think I have played this out every time!..the only record in my collection that I have done that with so gotta inc it...still nowhere near bored with it 2.when he speaks-Dianne Elliot 3.i can feel it-carl carlton................both theses two come close second to most dj'd with and the diane Elliot gets lots of spins at home too..beautiful! 4.the kangaroo pt 3-abraham and the Casanovas... this was new to me this year (I think!) when kev higham did me a cd..although a cheapie took me a while to track one down 5.its not too late-Cheryl Johnson...this one is more of a home spin as john stapleton has been playing it at gogo for about 5 years!...a bit too funky for a lot of nights I get slots at but I have spun it out a few times..never thought id get one especially when one went for about £1200 in oct 2012!!....couple months later I got one for £120,writing on label and only a strong vg but plays much much better :-) dean Edited January 8, 2014 by spacehopper
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