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We've discussed this before and I pointed out that Dusty Springfield's version of 'What's It Gonna Be' WAS the original version.

The truth is that the 45s were released at almost the same time.

 

Susan Barrett's version may have been issued in August or September 1967 (I'm not certain) and Dusty's version was issued in September 1967 (UK) and November 1967 (US).  Even if we could be sure that Susan's version was actually released before Dusty's, it would only have been by a few weeks and that doesn't make Dusty's a cover version because a few weeks wouldn't have been enough time.  And why on earth would Dusty cover an obscure B side of a flop US record?

Dusty's version was already recorded and it can be considered as the original version because it was produced by Jerry Ragovoy (uncredited) who wrote the song with Mort Shuman.  They recorded the track in New York (Dusty's vocals may have been added to the track in London) and the sesssion was directed by Gary Sherman.

 

Sherman had previously worked on some Barrett sessions for RCA so it's likely that he pitched the song to her or to her producer Paul Robinson.  At that stage there was probably a guide vocal by a demo singer on the Ragovoy track, it would be interesting to know who it was.

 

Personally, I think Dusty's version is far stronger, it's better sung and more soulful and of course it has those great backing vocals.

Paul

 

Evening Paul

 

Interesting stuff mate thanks. I don't really mind which was first but Dusty's version just doesn't do it for me and comes in as an easy second. Like I said earlier it's all very subjective isn't it. 

 

Anyway, hope you're well Sir.

 

Peter

 

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Posted

 

We've discussed this before and I pointed out that Dusty Springfield's version of 'What's It Gonna Be' WAS the original version.

The truth is that the 45s were released at almost the same time.

 

Susan Barrett's version may have been issued in August or September 1967 (I'm not certain) and Dusty's version was issued in September 1967 (UK) and November 1967 (US).  Even if we could be sure that Susan's version was actually released before Dusty's, it would only have been by a few weeks and that doesn't make Dusty's a cover version because a few weeks wouldn't have been enough time.  And why on earth would Dusty cover an obscure B side of a flop US record?

Dusty's version was already recorded and it can be considered as the original version because it was produced by Jerry Ragovoy (uncredited) who wrote the song with Mort Shuman.  They recorded the track in New York (Dusty's vocals may have been added to the track in London) and the sesssion was directed by Gary Sherman.

 

Sherman had previously worked on some Barrett sessions for RCA so it's likely that he pitched the song to her or to her producer Paul Robinson.  At that stage there was probably a guide vocal by a demo singer on the Ragovoy track, it would be interesting to know who it was.

 

Personally, I think Dusty's version is far stronger, it's better sung and more soulful and of course it has those great backing vocals.

Paul

 

 

By the way, the backing vocals on Dusty's version were by Nick Ashford, Valerie Simpson and Carole King.

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By the way, the backing vocals on Dusty's version were by Nick Ashford, Valerie Simpson and Carole King.

Paul

Wasn't there any proper backingsinger available :lol::wicked:

Cheers

Martyn

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6 songs that I have probably played the most in my wee record room last year.

 

Joe Simon - Georgia Blue

Al Castana and The Primettes - I need and love you

Almeta Lattimore - These memories

Clarence Haddon - Who is this

The Mumy - Don't let the sun catch you crying

Brenda Jones - Big mistake

 

 

gary

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Joyce Kennedy. I'm a good girl

Soul stirrers Don't you worry

Dee dee warwick. We got everything going for us

Carl hall. My baby's so good

Ray pollard. This time.

Enjoyed listen to these in 2013...

Boff,,,,,,

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Just checked my itunes playlist and record box and relevant to this forum my top 5 of 2013 were;

 

Soul children   Were getting too close

 

Gloria Shannon  Tears

 

Al Mcarther  His true love for you

 

Bobby Bland  Members Only

 

Monitors  You are my destiny (bit of a dark secret I know, but I like it!)

 

 

Bobby Womack and Nile Rodgers featured quite heavily but no particular tracks also started to rediscover the Isley Brothers. What a back catalogue they have.

 

Dave Banks

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I play a mixed bag across a few venues and am choosing these mainly on the strength of reaction/request than owt else:

 

60's

 

1.   Etta James & Sugar Pie DeSanto - In The Basement - Cadet

2.   The Marvelows - Your Little Sister - ABC/Paramount

3.   Yvonne Baker - Mend The Broken Pieces - Junior

4.   Hector Rivera - Do It To Me - Barry

5.   Marlena Shaw - Let's Wade In The Water - Cadet

6.   Bobby Moore's Rhythm Aces - Go Ahead And Burn - Checker

7.   Irene & The Scotts - Stuck On My Baby - Smash

8.   Brenda Holloway - When I'm Gone - Tamla

9.   King Errison - Zola - Canyon

10. Barbara Acklin - Am I The Same Girl - Brunswick

 

70's

 

1.   Willi J & Co - Boogie With Your Baby - KiKi

2.   The Chocolate Boys - Voltaire Pier - Trans Canada

3.   Blacksmoke - What Goes Around - Chocolate City

4.   Atlantic Starr - Don't Abuse My Love- A&M

5.   Esther Phillips - Home Is Where The Hatred Is - Kudu

6.   Cameo - Is This The Way - Chocolate City

7.   Leon Thomas - L-O-V-E - Flying Dutchman

8.   Donna McGhee - Mr Blindman - Anchor

9.   Ann Sexton - You've Been Gone Too Long - S7

10. Patti Labelle - It's Alright With Me - Epic

 

80s

 

1.   George Duke - I Want You For Myself - Epic

2.   Brainstorm - We're On Our Way Home - Tabu

3.   Sharon Paige - Tonight's The Night - Source

4.   Hi Gloss - Totally Yours - Epic

5.   Jewel - Paradise - Jewel

6.   Sharon Redd - Can You Handle It - Epic

7.   Rome Jeffries - Good Love - Rain

8.   McCrarys - Love On A Summer Night - RCA

9.   Cheri - Starstruck - 21

10. High Frequency - Summertime - NIA

 

Misc

 

1.   Bethea - One Eyed Dog In A Meathouse - Dynamo

2.   The Firebolts - Everybody Party (Get Down) - Greenback

3.   Willie Bobo - Fried Neckbones - Verve

4.   Fred Wesley - Doin' It To Death - People]

5.   Frank James & Shadow - Summertime - Supersonic

6.   Sil Austin - Disco Music - Jerri

7.   Jimmie Green - Dance - String

8.   J.B.'s Wedge - Bessie Pt 2 - Brownstone

9.   The Funkateers - Blow Bill Blow - Chocolate City

10.  Ray Munnings - It Could Happen To You - Tammi

Posted

Hi all,

 

my 2013 top tunes are as follows:

 

Sharon McMahon "Where There Is Love"

 

The Harvey Averne Dozen "Never Learned To Dance"

 
Sandy Golden "Your Love Is Everything"
 
Larry Davies "I've Been Hurt So Many Times"
 
Don't have them but they were always on my youtube!
 
Andrea
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Spins in the house last year were;

1, Velvet Underground........Sunday Morning.

2,Dillinger.....Cocaine .

3,Sex Pistols ....Anarchy..

4,Soul Bros Inc...Teardrops.

5,Joe Adams......L.O.V.E.

Regards Sharmo.

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MY  5 FOR 2013

VIRGIL HENRY you aint sayin nothin new

SUSAN BARRATT WHATS IT GONNA BE

TEMPTATIONS  STAY

STEEPLECHASE NEVER COMING BACK

THE VAN DYKES SAVE MY LOVE FOR A RAINY DAY

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umm 5 for 2013 inc playing out and home/car...

 

1. lend me your hand-kindly shepherds..had this for a few years now but other than once I think I have played this out every time!..the only record in my collection that I have done that with so gotta inc it...still nowhere near bored with it

 

2.when he speaks-Dianne Elliot

 

3.i can feel it-carl carlton................both theses two come close second to most dj'd with and the diane Elliot gets lots of spins at home too..beautiful!

 

4.the kangaroo pt 3-abraham and the Casanovas... this was new to me this year (I think!) when kev higham did me a cd..although a cheapie took me a while to track one down

 

5.its not too late-Cheryl Johnson...this one is more of a home spin as john stapleton has been playing it at gogo for about 5 years!...a bit too funky for a lot of nights I get slots at but I have spun it out a few times..never thought id get one especially when one went for about £1200 in oct 2012!!....couple months later I got one for £120,writing on label and only a strong vg but plays much much better :-)

 

dean

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