Tony Smith Posted December 30, 2013 Posted December 30, 2013 The Springers is probably tucked away in the collections of a few U.S. "group" collectors, and there are more copies amongst that scene than we in the "Northern Soul" collecting fraternity would think. In respect of Ray Agee, he signed up for Sherman and Ann Coleman's Soultown/Celeste/Coleman set up around 1964, leaving about 1966 to go to Brandin records, so the disc could have come out after then, without his knowledge OR permission, and could have been a disc scheduled for the celeste label. As far as Ray Agee having no knowledge of the disc, I think with an output of material that started in 1952 for Modern records, and recording for at least 20 labels his memory of specific tracks could be excused, especially if he didn't know they had been released and had not led an "austere" lifestyle. All speculation of course. Des According to the Delta No. July-Aug 1967 1
Ted Massey Posted December 30, 2013 Posted December 30, 2013 I seem to remember mark Oliver from Gloucester telling me he had sold Mick H a Springers 3/4 years ago
Chalky Posted December 30, 2013 Posted December 30, 2013 Mick was playing the Springers at early Lifelines.
Guest penny Posted December 30, 2013 Posted December 30, 2013 Guess I could just stop at home & listen to it on youtube or something similar. Would save my 'boot' leather too (excuse the pun, I couldn't resist!). In fact if everybody did that it would solve the problem of so many venue's on as well. Jeezz, some folks just don't get it do they What dont some people get?
Cunnie Posted December 30, 2013 Posted December 30, 2013 What dont some people get? It. See you are from my old home City of Sheffield. Might I suggest a trip to somewhere like the Horti Club & then you might realise what I am talking about.
Popular Post Prophonics 2029 Posted December 30, 2013 Popular Post Posted December 30, 2013 (edited) A guy on ebay has just offered me 4 copys of Ray Agee on Soul Town as a buy it now. Slight edge warp NAP. https://www.ebay.com/itm/Recycled-Vintage-Vinyl-LP-Record-A-True-Bowl-Dish/120590110821?_trksid=p2047675.m2109&_trkparms=aid%3D555003%26algo%3DPW.CAT%26ao%3D1%26asc%3D142%26meid%3D3767128309758212170%26pid%3D100010%26prg%3D1076%26rk%3D5%26rkt%3D15%26sd%3D141150997311%26 Edited December 30, 2013 by Prophonics 2029 4
Mrtag Posted December 30, 2013 Posted December 30, 2013 (edited) https://www.ebay.com/itm/Recycled-Vintage-Vinyl-LP-Record-A-True-Bowl-Dish/120590110821?_trksid=p2047675.m2109&_trkparms=aid%3D555003%26algo%3DPW.CAT%26ao%3D1%26asc%3D142%26meid%3D3767128309758212170%26pid%3D100010%26prg%3D1076%26rk%3D5%26rkt%3D15%26sd%3D141150997311%26 Great for sticking your nuts in at Christmas!! Or any other time if thats what turns you on!!! Edited December 31, 2013 by mrtag
Labeat Posted December 30, 2013 Posted December 30, 2013 2 other copies Dave&Frankie.... Mace got his off Des P this summer and Pete Hullett bought hisand a Magnetics from Tim B what, 7 8 9 years ago maybe.My apologies to Mace&Pete if I have my facts wrong!Sorry, I was referring to Ray Agee
Guest penny Posted December 30, 2013 Posted December 30, 2013 It. See you are from my old home City of Sheffield. Might I suggest a trip to somewhere like the Horti Club & then you might realise what I am talking about. what's 'it'? What are you talking about? Why dont you just tell me? I cant claim to be an authority on anything, but I went out dancing or djing, often both, every single weekend for 20 years straight, what enlightenment might I expect from the horti club, whatever that is? will I learn that bootlegs are great, or that there is a national dj shortage and all must be encouraged?
Guest wigan bob Posted December 30, 2013 Posted December 30, 2013 i would say at least 5 to 10 springers and 25 plus ray agee
Labeat Posted December 31, 2013 Posted December 31, 2013 what's 'it'? What are you talking about? Why dont you just tell me?I cant claim to be an authority on anything, but I went out dancing or djing, often both, every single weekend for 20 years straight, what enlightenment might I expect from the horti club, whatever that is?will I learn that bootlegs are great, or that there is a national dj shortage and all must be encouraged?Hi Penny,I think "it" is summat to do wi computors. At Horti you can show your Leeks and spin your tunes.Have a good new year!
Guest gordon russell Posted December 31, 2013 Posted December 31, 2013 Mick was playing the Springers at early Lifelines. poor record.........sounds like one of those dean martin kinda sounds
Chalky Posted December 31, 2013 Posted December 31, 2013 poor record.........sounds like one of those dean martin kinda sounds You are getting all too predictable Tezza
Guest gordon russell Posted December 31, 2013 Posted December 31, 2013 You are getting all too predictable Tezza or maybe sammy davis jnr...........happy new year chalks
Chalky Posted December 31, 2013 Posted December 31, 2013 or maybe sammy davis jnr...........happy new year chalks Same to you mate.
Labeat Posted December 31, 2013 Posted December 31, 2013 To all Springers worshipers, it's an "alright" record but I can see where Tez is coming from.... it has a touch of cabaret to it, great to listen to in your living room or the car.So please, no-one take offence, just my own personal opinion. 1
Labeat Posted December 31, 2013 Posted December 31, 2013 To all Springers worshipers, it's an "alright" record but I can see where Tez is coming from.... it has a touch of cabaret to it, great to listen to in your living room or the car.So please, no-one take offence, just my own personal opinion.Additionally, let us forget the value and rarity of it for a moment........ IT'S IN THE "GROOVES" THAT COUNT!!! 2
Quinvy Posted December 31, 2013 Posted December 31, 2013 poor record.........sounds like one of those dean martin kinda sounds you've just gone down in my estimation Terry. bloody hell, I've just realised my smileys are working on't iPad 1
Vin Posted January 1, 2014 Posted January 1, 2014 If you took all the labels of them ..they would all look the same..
Labeat Posted January 1, 2014 Posted January 1, 2014 poor record.........sounds like one of those dean martin kinda soundsExcuse me Terry, Dean Martin was a very talented singer, I think far superior to Frank Sinatra,likewise that Jackey Beavers (Love that never)is supreme to Steve Mancha (Friday Night).Just agree mate.Neil 1
Guest gordon russell Posted January 1, 2014 Posted January 1, 2014 you've just gone down in my estimation Terry. bloody hell, I've just realised my smileys are working on't iPad didn,t think you northern folk could afford ipads ..............springers lead singer tony newly
Stanley Posted January 1, 2014 Posted January 1, 2014 To all Springers worshipers, it's an "alright" record but I can see where Tez is coming from .... it has a touch of cabaret to it, great to listen to in your living room or the car. So please, no-one take offence, just my own personal opinion. i actually agree with you, when i heard pete lowrie playing the acetate to me yonc,s ago i thought it ok, then when i paid a fortune for it in mint condition........guess what i thought it was wonderful.....g 2
Mrtag Posted January 1, 2014 Posted January 1, 2014 Agree with you George! It ain't in the same league as Ray Agee quality wise imho but as they say one mans meat etc. by the way Happy New Year mate! I will try and give you a ring later. Atb john
Labeat Posted January 1, 2014 Posted January 1, 2014 you've just gone down in my estimation Terry. bloody hell, I've just realised my smileys are working on't iPad Hi Phil.... are you...1,Well2,Makin a comeback3,Collecting againHappy new year to you,Neil
Popular Post Chalky Posted January 1, 2014 Popular Post Posted January 1, 2014 Taste is subjective and we are all different, would be a very poor scene if we all liked the same or told to like what others like as happens on here at times. 5
Stanley Posted January 1, 2014 Posted January 1, 2014 Agree with you George! It ain't in the same league as Ray Agee quality wise imho but as they say one mans meat etc. by the way Happy New Year mate! I will try and give you a ring later. Atb john all the best to you john, hope the ray agee went down a treat last night....its a fantastic tune....some people say they can,t dance to it....my take ,... if your full of soul you can dance and soulful move to any tune.on the dance floor, the odd occasion people would leave the floor to a tune they didn,t know,i would just say they,ve been going to the wrong places and still learning the ropes ,could the professionals amongst us help the uneducated. to dance to this.....amazingly the dance floor would fill up again....remember rob thomas dj,in one spot and cleared the dance floor with blinding one after the other tunes for an hour...he came off to some applause and we left lateron saying no one danced but what a spot that was.we all laughed. g 2
Quinvy Posted January 1, 2014 Posted January 1, 2014 (edited) Ah, didn't realise you were on here Neil. In answer to your questions; 1. Yes thank you. 2. Definitely not. 3. Definitely not. Happy New Year. Edited January 1, 2014 by Quinvy
Mrtag Posted January 1, 2014 Posted January 1, 2014 all the best to you john, hope the ray agee went down a treat last night....its a fantastic tune....some people say they can,t dance to it....my take ,... if your full of soul you can dance and soulful move to any tune.on the dance floor, the odd occasion people would leave the floor to a tune they didn,t know,i would just say they,ve been going to the wrong places and still learning the ropes ,could the professionals amongst us help the uneducated. to dance to this.....amazingly the dance floor would fill up again....remember rob thomas dj,in one spot and cleared the dance floor with blinding one after the other tunes for an hour...he came off to some applause and we left lateron saying no one danced but what a spot that was.we all laughed. g Cheers George, Yes it filled the floor so I went home happy!! Just on way out will talk later, Atb John.
Quinvy Posted January 1, 2014 Posted January 1, 2014 Cheers George, Yes it filled the floor so I went home happy!! Just on way out will talk later, Atb John. Why have you sold it then John?
Labeat Posted January 1, 2014 Posted January 1, 2014 Ah, didn't realise you were on here Neil.In answer to your questions;1. Yes thank you.2. Definitely not.3. Definitely not. Happy New Year. OK Phil, anyway, the scene is still going strong, so many fresh items turning up.... 10 20 30 pounders...., ,some damn good belters, no end in sight to em which I feel is good for us.Best,Neil
Guest stevie frear Posted January 1, 2014 Posted January 1, 2014 Only worth looking for if your deck (or the decks you DJ on) have got the facility to pitch at -28. Tim Brown told me Quinvy once had one but couldn't remember what he did with it. Tim Brown told quinvy i had one but i can't remember buying it !!
Mrtag Posted January 1, 2014 Posted January 1, 2014 Why have you sold it then John? I'm taking a leaf out of your book Phil they are all going!!! By the way it isn't sold yet!
Quinvy Posted January 1, 2014 Posted January 1, 2014 I'm taking a leaf out of your book Phil they are all going!!! By the way it isn't sold yet! Fair enough John.
Northernjordan Posted January 2, 2014 Posted January 2, 2014 Why is it always assumed that young people dont collect originals? And that we have a desire to fill a box with boots and re-issues?
Guest Matt Male Posted January 2, 2014 Posted January 2, 2014 RE;- Ray Agee, "I'm Losing Again", Personally I think Ray is singing a northern production (edged with R&B)with obvious R&B vocals, a good mix in my view.... is he still alive? He must be knockin on if he is. He died in or around 1990 so I read somewhere.
Stompingsevens Posted January 2, 2014 Author Posted January 2, 2014 I'm taking a leaf out of your book Phil they are all going!!! By the way it isn't sold yet! Can I buy it please? What is the price??
Spacehopper Posted January 2, 2014 Posted January 2, 2014 ted played ray agee Nye in Southampton and after many years I still danced..infact ran to the floor, love it!..great horns,hypnotic guitar riff wonderful vocals for me a mix of rnb influences and what we call 'northern'...not a hard beat IMO but maybe a bit fast for some today didn't one go for 3 of 4 figures recently despite having a big chunk out of it and missing a bit of the intro? not gonna get involved in the whole bootleg debate again...except 'keep it real and you keep it special'....if everyone had it to playout it wouldn't be special anymore and we wouldn't be talking about it would we? dean 2
Mrtag Posted January 2, 2014 Posted January 2, 2014 (edited) Fair enough John. No problem Phil, Like you & George & a few others I to have seen the light Edited January 2, 2014 by mrtag
Guest Bearsy Posted January 2, 2014 Posted January 2, 2014 Why is it always assumed that young people dont collect originals? And that we have a desire to fill a box with boots and re-issues? Why do young people always assume old people assume that ?
Mrtag Posted January 2, 2014 Posted January 2, 2014 Can I buy it please? What is the price?? Hi Jesse, I have answered you with a Pm it reads pretty much the same as the last Pm. I will keep you up to speed with any further developments, as yet nothing further to report but it's looking like a done deal! Atb John
Mrtag Posted January 2, 2014 Posted January 2, 2014 ted played ray agee Nye in Southampton and after many years I still danced..infact ran to the floor, love it!..great horns,hypnotic guitar riff wonderful vocals for me a mix of rnb influences and what we call 'northern'...not a hard beat IMO but maybe a bit fast for some today didn't one go for 3 of 4 figures recently despite having a big chunk out of it and missing a bit of the intro? not gonna get involved in the whole bootleg debate again...except 'keep it real and you keep it special'....if everyone had it to playout it wouldn't be special anymore and we wouldn't be talking about it would we? dean Totally agree!! Then people wonder why you don't like re-issue's boots etc!! Totally kill the impact of someone playing the original that you wont hear everytime you go out!!
Northernjordan Posted January 2, 2014 Posted January 2, 2014 Why do young people always assume old people assume that ? Well there seems to have been a few post on this thread stating that boots and re-issues are needed to keep young people interested, just replying to those people
Guest Bearsy Posted January 2, 2014 Posted January 2, 2014 Well there seems to have been a few post on this thread stating that boots and re-issues are needed to keep young people interested, just replying to those people Ignore them kind of posts its just another type of stereo typing which old people do all the time just after their afternoon nap and before their nose trimming appointment trust me there are plenty of youngsters that buy only Originals so your in good company
Popular Post Chalky Posted January 2, 2014 Popular Post Posted January 2, 2014 Well there seems to have been a few post on this thread stating that boots and re-issues are needed to keep young people interested, just replying to those people If anything younger collectors should be able to afford more than those with mortgage, bills etc unless your young and have a mortgage that is My advice stop at home until you've amassed a decent collection Oh and stay single unless she is rich 4
Godzilla Posted January 2, 2014 Posted January 2, 2014 My advice stop at home until you've amassed a decent collection Oh and stay single unless she is rich Someone should tell Chalky that there are quite a few female collectors out there too. 1
Chalky Posted January 2, 2014 Posted January 2, 2014 Someone should tell Chalky that there are quite a few female collectors out there too. I meant to edit to read vice versa but got collared to run some errands 1
Godzilla Posted January 2, 2014 Posted January 2, 2014 I meant to edit to read vice versa but got collared to run some errands If you're that reconstructed you can do a bit of dusting while you're at it too
Chalky Posted January 2, 2014 Posted January 2, 2014 If you're that reconstructed you can do a bit of dusting while you're at it too How do you do that 1
Dave Pinch Posted January 2, 2014 Posted January 2, 2014 (edited) ted played ray agee Nye in Southampton and after many years I still danced..infact ran to the floor, love it!..great horns,hypnotic guitar riff wonderful vocals for me a mix of rnb influences and what we call 'northern'...not a hard beat IMO but maybe a bit fast for some today didn't one go for 3 of 4 figures recently despite having a big chunk out of it and missing a bit of the intro? not gonna get involved in the whole bootleg debate again...except 'keep it real and you keep it special'....if everyone had it to playout it wouldn't be special anymore and we wouldn't be talking about it would we? dean yeh one with a big chunk out went for about £500 a couple of years ago..missed about 10 seconds off i think. the winner was on here ...might have been a bit less than 500 tho Edited January 2, 2014 by dave pinch
Guest penny Posted January 2, 2014 Posted January 2, 2014 Well there seems to have been a few post on this thread stating that boots and re-issues are needed to keep young people interested, just replying to those people Dont worry bout that, it's just the bootleggers attempting a better sounding justification for their tat. In fact, boots and pressings appeal to lazy pretend djs of all ages. it's a bit like the myth that young people need to start with entry level average cheapies, which older collectors conveniently have on hand to sell to them.
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