I Feel Alright......!x

[Alison H]

I don't think you do get it Toc, I was commending you for only putting up one paragraph and getting your point across. And just to make it clear (again) I'm not knocking Sooty or you for your endeavours, all I basically said was that Sooty tends to go on a bit, and always includes something about his travels/business/meeting famous people etc etc. If the main point of this thread is charity, then to me thats what's best focused on.

I actually disagree with making the whole thread about Charity only. Sadly, I do think people would switch off if that was the case, whereas Sooty's bonkers posts are keeping people interested/entertained/wound up & that in a round about way is good for any Charity work.

Sooty, to me, leads a very interesting life, & the self promotion that people seem to take offence to is all in the name of charity & doing good for others. I could understand people's grievances if Sooty was trying to promote his own nighter/weekender, but to me all he's doing is raising awareness on others plights & sharing his experiences along the way & I enjoy that element of his posts

Edited December 17, 2013 by Alison H

[toc]

Ok , just got in from having a meeting about charity soul and setting up our own " charitysoul Internet radio " to self promote ourselves and play good old tunes with good old soulies and raise monies at the same time , I think wot we need to do is forget about the past posts , interesting as they are and just move on , sorry Winnie and Alison if I've mis read your posts , I just mean well and do really take it to heart but that's just the passion I have for the project , it really does mean a lot to me to get this thing going and raise loads of doe for the pro , so as for our next event , it's at the inner soul in Sheffield , Martin smiths event on the 28 th of dec , guest djs rob wicks and John Vincent , anybody up for it ?? Come and see wot were about , so merry Xmas to all , regards toc

[Len]

I actually disagree with making the whole thread about Charity only. Sadly, I do think people would switch off if that was the case, whereas Sooty's bonkers posts are keeping people interested/entertained/wound up & that in a round about way is good for any Charity work.

Sooty, to me, leads a very interesting life, & the self promotion that people seem to take offence to is all in the name of charity & doing good for others. I could understand people's grievances if Sooty was trying to promote his own nighter/weekender, but to me all he's doing is raising awareness on others plights & sharing his experiences along the way & I enjoy that element of his posts

 

....Or he's as mad as a box of bats......    

 

Len  

[Little-stevie]

Shouldn't this be in events feedback? Or even "freebasing"?

.. Or maybe a new section... All about Sooty.... It was I who said " less is more" but I guess that's just not in his nature.... Peace, love, merry Xmas...

[Steve G]

.. Or maybe a new section... All about Sooty.... It was I who said " less is more" but I guess that's just not in his nature.... Peace, love, merry Xmas...

 

Yes I agree Steve. No one is "digging out" the charity fellas and well done for Sooty for doing his bit.

 

 

 

 

 

BUT we get a thread called "I feel alright" and it's all about Sooty and his weekend, musing and the fellas other views of "the scene" - interesting as that may be for some folk.....We've all done charity gigs over the years, you do your bit promoting the event, turn up, do your bit at the gig, get the money raised, maybe post a playlist, bank the dosh with the charity and thank everyone, that's it, job done .....Unless of course you are Sooty......I don't know anyone else that's participated in a charity gig as a DJ that starts their own thread up after the event.....to tell everyone that they've just done a charity gig . If you are a promotor you'd promote the event in advance and maybe start a thread that says "Thanks everyone for coming we raised £1,000" etc.....But that's it..."innit" ? x

 

Terry is right, Sooty is a big time self promotor - it's always about the fella first and foremost....Count the "I"s and "Me's" in his posts, then count the "we" and "they's".......rather telling......and if you don't believe Sooty's self promotion credentials just google the dude. He's a legend in the Cambridge area.

 

Anyway cautious I don't want to be malicious esp. at Christmas , the guy obviously has heaps of energy and most of it is pointed in the direction of good causes, just that it all comes with a load of old baggage as well.

[Winnie :-)]

I actually disagree with making the whole thread about Charity only. Sadly, I do think people would switch off if that was the case, whereas Sooty's bonkers posts are keeping people interested/entertained/wound up & that in a round about way is good for any Charity work.

Sooty, to me, leads a very interesting life, & the self promotion that people seem to take offence to is all in the name of charity & doing good for others. I could understand people's grievances if Sooty was trying to promote his own nighter/weekender, but to me all he's doing is raising awareness on others plights & sharing his experiences along the way & I enjoy that element of his posts

Ali,

 

I did say 'if the thread is all about charity then that should be the focus', if it's about something else, as in 'The Life and Times....' which I believe this one is, then it's probably in the wrong section. I think the biggest fear held by some of us, is that we're almost back in the 'Dedicated thread' realms, which as I remember was only mainly popular to the person who dedicated it to himself.

 

As Steve G said in the last post, we all do different things for charity but don't necessarily feel the need to promote the fact. A while back Steve put up a link to an organisation (can't remember the name) that makes sure the people in London (who need it) get a hot meal, I signed up for it, do I need praise or recognition for doing so? No! What I do, where I give, I keep to myself because each and every cause that we as individuals support is important to ourselves. So I'll reiterate, more power to Sooty and Toc's elbow for the good work they're doing for cancer research, but if that's the focus of the thread, to my mind keep it as such, don't wander off into the 'self promotion' world, as for the majority (I realise some are happy with this approach) of us, it can be off putting. 

[Guest Paul]

...Hello!!!x ....Nothing against SOOTY lolx......! He's a good lad but I'm worried that his style of writing might be infectious!x lol..........hehe!!!x
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[Mark S]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2L5kr3Nrliw  This,ll probably kill the thread

 

LUV xxxx

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[Little-stevie]

Most folk are more able to digest better in smaller portions... sooty gives you much more in every portion. The odd feast is fine but lets have snacks too Sooty...

[Len]

A serious word about Charity gigs.

 

I don’t know Toc, so this is completely unbiased…… He (she?) comes across as someone who is genuine, and absolutely wants to raise money for Charity, as does Sooty (that bit is in there somewhere)  Unfortunately this charity ‘lark’ has been spoilt for me, by some using it either as an excuse to put ‘yet another’ event on, or simply as a ‘hook’ to get people through the door.

 

I’m not sure how others feel, but I go to soul events for one person - me, and I couldn’t care less if my entrance money went to good causes or straight up the promoters nose - Point being, if an event is for charity then great, but it makes no difference to me whether I attend or not.

 

Good luck to all that raise money because they care.

 

All the best,

 

Len  ……x……x……x…….x…….x…….x……..x…… I D.Jed back in……..absolutely blew the roof off……….x……x…..he he…………  

Edited December 18, 2013 by LEN

[Dave Rimmer]

 

Len  ……x……x……x…….x…….x…….x……..x…… I D.Jed back in……..absolutely blew the roof off……….x……x…..he he…………  

 

 

I've seen you DJ, were you playing with explosives when you blew the roof off    

[Len]

I've seen you DJ, were you playing with explosives when you blew the roof off    

 

.....Well, it was the only way I could actually say those 'D.J words'......and I did apologise for any inconvenience caused (and any burns).....  ..... ..x.......x.......x.......

 

Len  

Edited December 18, 2013 by LEN

[Steve S 60]

Most folk are more able to digest better in smaller portions... sooty gives you much more in every portion. The odd feast is fine but lets have snacks too Sooty...

 

Listen to both Little Stevies, Sooty....

 

Stevie Wonder  "I Gave Up Quality for Quantity".......

 

https://youtu.be/xYE9iegPTeE

[Trev Thomas]

Yes I agree Steve. No one is "digging out" the charity fellas and well done for Sooty for doing his bit.

 

 

 

 

 

BUT we get a thread called "I feel alright" and it's all about Sooty and his weekend, musing and the fellas other views of "the scene" - interesting as that may be for some folk.....We've all done charity gigs over the years, you do your bit promoting the event, turn up, do your bit at the gig, get the money raised, maybe post a playlist, bank the dosh with the charity and thank everyone, that's it, job done .....Unless of course you are Sooty......I don't know anyone else that's participated in a charity gig as a DJ that starts their own thread up after the event.....to tell everyone that they've just done a charity gig . If you are a promotor you'd promote the event in advance and maybe start a thread that says "Thanks everyone for coming we raised £1,000" etc.....But that's it..."innit" ? x

 

Terry is right, Sooty is a big time self promotor - it's always about the fella first and foremost....Count the "I"s and "Me's" in his posts, then count the "we" and "they's".......rather telling......and if you don't believe Sooty's self promotion credentials just google the dude. He's a legend in the Cambridge area.

 

Anyway cautious I don't want to be malicious esp. at Christmas , the guy obviously has heaps of energy and most of it is pointed in the direction of good causes, just that it all comes with a load of old baggage as well.

 

 

just googled him, he's a legend alright....convicted for putting peoples lives at risk by running an unlicenced limosine buisness , convicted for tobacco smuggling and evading paying 80 grand tax and duty, arrested and banned from football, top guy

[Winnie :-)]

just googled him, he's a legend alright....convicted for putting peoples lives at risk by running an unlicenced limosine buisness , convicted for tobacco smuggling and evading paying 80 grand tax and duty, arrested and banned from football, top guy

What he has or hasn't done in the past is of no particular interest to me, don't think anyone's out to crucify the bloke, just to get him to write a bit less...

[Guest Chiefy]

just googled him, he's a legend alright....convicted for putting peoples lives at risk by running an unlicenced limosine buisness , convicted for tobacco smuggling and evading paying 80 grand tax and duty, arrested and banned from football, top guy

[Guest Chiefy]

RESPECT

[Trev Thomas]

What he has or hasn't done in the past is of no particular interest to me, don't think anyone's out to crucify the bloke, just to get him to write a bit less...

 

 

just bugs me that he gets on here, writes reams of self promotional b*llocks about saint sooty the charitable, wasn't showing too much charity when he was taking peoples hard earned cash in exchange for ferrying them around in dangerous  vehicles with no mot's or vosa safty certificates or  indeed the appropriate driving licence

Edited February 7, 2015 by pikeys dog
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[Winnie :-)]

just bugs me that he gets on here, writes reams of self promotional b*llocks about saint sooty the charitable, wasn't showing too much charity when he was taking peoples hard earned cash in exchange for ferrying them around in dangerous  vehicles with no mot's or vosa safty certificates or  indeed the appropriate driving licence

Yeah, the first bit I can get, the rest of it, well, we've all got pasts, do they really need to be dredged up on soul source?

Edited February 7, 2015 by pikeys dog
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[Trev Thomas]

Yeah, the first bit I can get, the rest of it, well, we've all got pasts, do they really need to be dredged up on soul source?

 

it was last year 2012, not years ago, my cousin was killed by an uninsured driver 5 years ago, so its something that really pisses me off, as for the 80 grand unpaid duty if he'd paid it instead of sticking it in his back pocket then the state would have more rescources to fight cancer and not have to rely on charities, i pay my taxes and drive my car with all the relevent licence, tax, mot and insurance, so why cant he.

as for dredging it up, well its all there on the internet for all to see

Edited December 18, 2013 by trev thomas

[toc]

Can't believe wot I'm reading , a guy likes to tell a story , while doing good along the way , everybody has a past , we all have , if u was on the scene in the 70 s , great times but Dodgey , we move on , so here we are , trying to do good cos close friends and family are suffering and dying thro this terrible desease , so a guy likes to tell his tales , interesting , we are building up charity soul with good , honest genuine folk who want to give up their time free to d j and help out , watch out for us , we may just be in your area next year , as for the peeps who are slaughtering the fella , move on , get a life , there's loads of things u could be doing apart from pulling somebody apart , I'm out of here , adios amigos

[Pete S]

Bit of a shame it's going this way, it's a bit like when Rich Chorley was on here, you either loved him or hated him but nobody was forced to read any of it, I was on the fence about Richard but when he left, I felt there was, and still is, quite a big gap...

[maslar]

This is a charity  PR disaster. Completely avoidable and entirely of one person's making.

[Jaco]

Bit of a shame it's going this way, it's a bit like when Rich Chorley was on here, you either loved him or hated him but nobody was forced to read any of it, I was on the fence about Richard but when he left, I felt there was, and still is, quite a big gap...

Know what you mean Pete. It's all about style with people like Rich and Sooty in my opinion. Rich was condescending and you could be turned off by that but as you say no one is forced to read what people post. With Sooty it's definitely style and I can honestly say that after one or two if his posts, I simply can't read them anymore.

Way too much detail. Punctuation all over the place which makes anything difficult to read and then, as pointed out, too much of the 'I' and 'me' and the rubbing shoulders with the rich and famous. His motives are down to him and I really don't give a shit about his past but if he just reigned it all in a bit, he might have something worth reading.

Just my opinion, mind.

[Dave Rimmer]

I think the issue is more about associating a charity with someone with a conviction for fraud, because no matter how good Sooty's intentions are, there will always be that nagging doubt in some people's minds.

[Steve G]

Quote: RESPECT?

 

Perhaps you also "respect" him for what he did to the Howard Mallett soul club in the early 90s...intervention effectively killed off a good club didn't it? Or did we dream it all......

 

Some of you need to take off them rose tinted glasses methinks.

"he he x @@@lol".....

[Pete S]

Quote: RESPECT?

 

Perhaps you also "respect" him for what he did to the Howard Mallett soul club in the early 90s...intervention effectively killed off a good club didn't it? Or did we dream it all......

 

Some of you need to take off them rose tinted glasses methinks.

"he he x @@@lol".....

 

Don't know anything about that or anything else he has or hasn't done.

Only know him off here and find him to be a personable person.

Anything else is not for me to comment on.

[Back Street Blue]

Accusations of fraud, endangering peoples' lives, killing off a soul club.......serious stuff that.

 

In the context of his posts on this site.....no body has to read a word if they find it so objectionable.

Edited December 18, 2013 by back street blue

[souleeds]

Hi folk,

Just heard from TOC about this post and a bit worried that charity soul could be looked at in a bad way.

Im Tony Jackson and work with toc with charity soul.

As he has said we lost a close friend to cancer earlier in the year and felt as a soul scene maybe we could do somethng to make a dif.

We felt if we could get as many venues as pos from this great scene of ours from all over the country to hold an event then maybe as a scene we could make a dif.

As has been said after much research we came across the professor and saw what groundbreaking things he is achieving in finding the cure for prostrate cancer.

Ive been on the scene since 1969 like most had a break through family life etc and and came back in the 90s in all my time i never met sooty. When he offered his help it was taken on face value, who and what he represents now not in the past.

Im sure like us you must know someone suffering from this dreadful disease so please dont have negative thoughts about charity soul. I know we keep bleating on about it but thats because we are passionate about getting as much dosh to the prof as quickly as we can, be positive we can make a dif.

Just to finish may as well take the opportunity to ask for your help, promoters out there how about holding an event we do need your help and cant do it without you and the soulies who supprt the events.

Thanks for reading sorry if its on the wrong page but had to say something.

Tony Jackson

[toc]

Ok guys point taken , lets draw a line in the sand , as the founder and organiser of the charity it's time to move on , this thing that is growing daily is far more important than anybodies past and as sooty has d j d twice for us for free I thank him for that as he really is a good Dj , but I refuse to let anyone drag our project into doubt , we have some great peeps involved and nothing and nobody will come between us achieving our aim of raising monies for the professor in his pursuit of finding the cure for cancer .

So now if that's accepted to all then lets move on , I am , we are , 28 th dec , inner soul Sheffield , as I've said before , great d js , great charity soul raffle prizes , great peeps , and great cause , so lets move on , !! Merry x mas , toc

[Mike]

Ok guys point taken , lets draw a line in the sand , as the founder and organiser of the charity it's time to move on , this thing that is growing daily is far more important than anybodies past and as sooty has d j d twice for us for free I thank him for that as he really is a good Dj , but I refuse to let anyone drag our project into doubt , we have some great peeps involved and nothing and nobody will come between us achieving our aim of raising monies for the professor in his pursuit of finding the cure for cancer .

So now if that's accepted to all then lets move on , I am , we are , 28 th dec , inner soul Sheffield , as I've said before , great d js , great charity soul raffle prizes , great peeps , and great cause , so lets move on , !! Merry x mas , toc

 

 

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mike