I Feel Alright......!x

[Sooty]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uVlXQQcrpho

 

My first attendance of a Nighter for 10 years.....and Turley's tune spun at Kings Hall...1 of 3 that I danced too during our 4 hours there.....sums up my weekend nicely!!x Thank you all!x

 

I am writing this post to respond en masse to numerous chats and comments had with folk be they Soulies...Promoters...DJ's and the hidden 'gems' behind the scenes!!x I told all I would 'report' back as to my opinons and findings through SS and this post is it!x It's up for discussion...but...as a seasoned 'journeyman'.....and returning after 10 years...then perhaps...it may suit as an article too?(Mike?x) There is lots to share....after 10 years and updating meself...so no apologies!!x

 

I consider my feedback 'sensible and measured'. Why? Well...I don't do drugs as I did for All Nighters back in the 90's. I enjoy a joint Publicly and anyone will tell you that Globally...but anything else is reserved for privacy....in me own home and in more intimate settings....for special occasions instead of a meal out and bottle of Bolly....which I recommend for true lovers!x On that basis....I was meeting 'the people'...and as Pete and I were talking to folk about the DVD at Kings Hall....then yes...as Gordon Russell quite rightly points out on occasion....business is business....and Pete and I both take that 'responsibility' serious. Therefore....I went to Kings Hall with my business head on first.....and the 'social' Soul Scene second......and the following is based on that criteria!x

 

We intended to get to Kings Hall for 9pmish.....but those who travelled via the A14/M6 after 7.45pm....copped 3 diversions.....adding 42 miles....and 2 hours to the journey taking in the wonderful sights of Wolverhampton Town Centre......sigh.....10 minutes too late to miss it the dversion we wos.....£$**(&%"!"&^%((poo.....so we got there after 4 1/2 hours at just after 11pm....and I was genuinely sorry for missing Sean's set and others whom I wanted to catch......bu**er....X

 

Upon arrival I was met at the door by a Luvly Lady who announced with a huge smile like a 'I remember now moment' a conversation I hadn't been part of........"....ahhhh.....I know who you are now...the Charity Soul doo at Knottingley....!" She then announced her broken toe is fixed....and so I said I wos happy to hear that and she took me £30 quid for the 2 of us!x We had some kit with us...a telly and things to show the DVD.....and headed for the Record room......which has gone since I last went...!! Dealers now 'gel' in the 2nd room with KICKING TUNES accompanying them.......which sadly meant for us.....the environment wasn't conducive to 'talking' with folk about the film!!!! So sadly...and I mean that....we had to seek elsewhere to go!x Pete had never been to a Nighter...or a Soul Night proper....but he knows the craic and mucked in by staying put in the room with our kit whilst I went to seek where to camp....sensibly!! I took that moment to head for the Balcony to take an overview of 'the happening'....but got as far as the steps half way up...and was met by a bouncer and 2 platformed shoed 'teenage' girls...dressed for clubbing and as I looked approachable in me 3/4 length jeans and UJ jacket and hat.....asked if I would teach them too dance......!!!!! The bouncer said he can't help em as it was his first time working a Northern doo...as it was for most of them I discovered!x Their 'husky Joe Lifeguard' poses wilted...or relaxed as the night wore on...which was nice to witness!x

 

Dancing lessons??? It's been topical on SS in recent months....and I gave my passionate speech to these young Lady's based on taking those comments on board...and my sincere feeling.......and said....'Dancing 'lessons'???" It's a feeeeeeeeling girls.....stand near the edge of the floor....watch others....and let the music move you....it'll happen I promise!!! Nobody gives a to** what you do either....I do me own thing....'naturally'.....just get on with it!!"....and gave them a huuuge re-assuring smile with which the Bouncer nodded in agreement whilst grinning too! I saw them venturing onto the floor about 2 hours later....together....tip toeing and stepping around in their platforms....in time.....job done!!x On my way down from the Balcony I bumped into Sammy on the way up who features on the DVD and on Paul Masons Cultural show t'other week......but I didn't tell him about the girls whom he would have trained...personally i'm sure...hehe!x He was too busy wanting to talk about our 'togetherness'...10 years ago.....which was BRILL....and nice to be remembered so fondly mate....nice 1 Sammy...!!X

 

When reaching the foyer again....Kev Roberts was chilling there....and I took my chance to shake his hand and genuinely thank him for providing the function for us all!x It was 'kicking'!x He then went beyond what some of you may expect of him....I wasn't surprised as he has always been helpful and friendly when our paths have crossed or needed too since first meeting him in the 90's. I told him of our dilemma and looked to him for a solution....and a superb one he found too....!x He suggested we set up at the entrance to the old corridor where the record rooms used to be! It was right opposite the middle doors to the main room and a perfect place to talk to folk who stopped to watch the film whilst peering through the door at the stage and hearing EVERY TUNE whilst there!!! Thanx Kev.....and indeed....his suggestion and assistance showed no signs of being 'anti' or uncaring with his attitude towards genuine Soulies that some out there consider he may have!x

By now....i'd been about half an hour....during that time...Pete...my Producer friend...had been listening to tunes in the 2nd room......and had a massive 'content' smile on his face as I walked to the bar towards him....because of the tunes he'd been privvy too in that 1/2 hour!!x To impress him....takes some....i dunno who was on during 11pm-11.45ish....but you did it for him......and by default...for me too....THANK YOU!!x

 

Now...'the night'. No it wasn't played during my 4 hours there.....but....was expecting it any moment.....more later!x We set up...and were MOBBED....soon as!x The Kings Hall 'Management' from the Council...Tim and his good Lady Manager whom I think was called...?? I'llfind out now!x .....I can't thank enough either...X They trusted Pete and I and allowed us access to the corridor which is now firmly locked to get access to a plug socket!! Tim in particular who had just taken over as Duty manager kept returning to make sure we were ok! Luvly fella....and he gave me an update on how the function has fared from his perspective over recent years....and ALL was good! I said during our early chat that I thought the Bouncers 'husky Joe' approach was a bit OTT at the time.....he acknowledged my sentiments! However....as I said...after chatting with many of them as they prowled the corridor....I was able to report to Tim as I left that their attitude and 'stance' had indeed mellowed and become more relaxed as they realised Northern gigs ain't like 'that'!!!x Super stuff too which Tim received warmly...X I gave him and his Lady Manager a copy of the DVD which he was pleased to have and understand more of 'the scene'. As an ex promoter....my findings were that it is all sitting pretty for 2014...and beyond...as far as the Council are concerned!! Nice 1!x

......ooooops......having said that.....erm...I was contacted on Sunday afternoon to be told a punch up had actually occurred between 2 Soulies after we had left....!!! A spat brewing for 30 years I understand but report such in the interests of balance!!! But....in 9 years of promoting....I never had 1 to deal with.....but in the grand scale.....I would believe it a very rare occurrence at Kings Hall too....X

 

UPDATE/Edit.... I have just spoken to Tim to ask the Lady's name...Janice was it...and I wanted to get their names right!x Thanx Janice!x I gave them a DVD and look forward to their feedback which they have promised to give!!x He just reported that the biggest 'problem' they had for the night was a Young Lady.....who had dislocated her knee cap....whilst dancing..........................................................................! Erm...I thanked him and put the phone down sharpish................hehe!!x

 

The 4 hours were spent in the corridor greeting old friends and faces and meeting many new ones including many of you 'regulars' who read in here!x In fact there are more readers who said hello....than talkers!x The 'silent majority' spoke...and your opinions were indeed appreciated.....nice 1 all!!x Good friends Ian...Jack....had spent many times on the Mini bus with me over the 9 years I trekked nationally....and it was fantastic to see them both still 'active' and excited by the scene!x Ian has continued his collecting which he re-started after coming to our Soul Nights in Cambridge '93. He had nowhere to go based in Ipswich...and he found a 'home' with us.....and he said i;m responsible for his still 'habit'...of collecting!!x Others commented on his 'quality' collection he has gathered over the past 20 years....but Ian...being a laid back guy....does some DJing....but doesn't like DJing really he said....and I can believe that!x A luvly unassuming fella...and mutual friend to Ted Massey too! Ted waved at us both from the end of the corridor...but I didn't have the chance to meet you Ted or hear your stuff......but Ian said you is 'kicking ass'.....and that mate....is good enuff for me to believe in...he knows his stuff...and people...and his judgement is 'consistent' with folk who have reported back on your input to us all as being 'super'.....to me in the past 20+ years.....as I have said mate!!x Nice 1...and I do look forward to hearing your stuff somewhere soon...and your 'students'.....!!!x

 

The main room.....as said...ear wigged every tune...and saw all reactions to all...during the 4 hours. The screens i'll mention first. Again...been good debate in here about such things at venues...showing the tunes being played. It was the first time i;d seen such personally....aaaaand.....I HATED IT!!!!!!!!!!!! As a dancer......it took away my 'natural' physical reaction to a tune away....knowing in advance what was coming!! No more would the surprise of trumpets announcing the arrival of The Majestics...be uplifting...or the Frankie Beverly BURST launch u outta ure seat.....for me....the brain took over the groove!!!!!! YES...I see the interest and they are a good thing....to see a label...super....like it. But..it killed me....straight up!! My solution to help dancers and watchers??? Delay the pic until 30 seconds after it kicking off.......simples!!

Naturally...it messed me up! Took away the excitement....and made it...for me....brain active not dance gear. Most dancers I know...feel it.....they just need reminding what it wos afterwards!!x It is a 'dance' venue....and folk go there to do it...I genuinely feel it better to not show the tune in advance.....if it can be avoided!X

 

As for the tunes I was privvy too......well...I danced 3 times. The first tune was 'Im Not Built That Way...Hesitations....an old favourite spin I had in the 90's.....then Don't Pretend by The Belles...again another old spin......and as I was leaving...telly in hand...Turley came on...which i;d never heard before until in this forum a few months back...and it dragged me back into the room for me last dance!!!!x Although I was busy....and was reserving my energy for the next days Dayer too.....to be very honest.....nothing else made me dance!!x Indeed I would go as far as this.......the DJ's tunes playing n the background of the DVD 10 years ago.....being played by some of those who DJ'd this weekend....pi**ed all over the 'quality' as to what was spun Saturday!! During my 4 hours....so 'obvious' a tune was played one after the other...it;'s a good job the majority where 'on it'...as discussed with Tim the Manager this morning....otherwise...the tunes wouldn't have inspired alone....methinks!x Yes top 500 is the theme.....but to hear the same 50 outta them....pop end too...was disappointing. I heard over 250 tunes on Sunday at the dayer....spun by perhaps 10 + DJ's....and many 'classics'/Oldies among them which packed the floor. Not once did I hear anything from those top 50 obvious...all day!! It is all I heard....and am sad to have to report that. There is no excuse when having an 'easy' appreciative crowd....chomping at the bit for any tune to give it some too...to play just 'any' tune. No real adventure....and as said....Turley....was it for me....the only track i had never heard 'live' or danced too in me life....in 4 hours!!x The DJ's can do better.....listen to yourselves on the DVD 10 years ago......i;m sorry to have dropped in from a time warp or summink....but either you can't be ar*ed....or....realised you didn't need to 'entertain'? Anyone could have turned up and had it away so to speak....but to inspire??? Different thing...and I didn't see anyone do that during my time there......and hoped for better really...X

 

So...people wise....from Kev...to behind the scene folk...and Soulies....and indeed Ginger..Dave Evison and the few DJ's I spoke with.....from a social perspective......BRILLIANT and thank you all for the welcome back as such!x My comments ain;t personal...strictly business....as Gordon would like it...!!x Business done...which included 62 copy's of the DVD among it all...Pete sorted that!!x His opinion??? He heard more ';quality' in the half hour in the little room than he did in the main room in 4 hours......I am the messenger!x ....but after all we have said...I would recommend going.....and sincerely hope it is there for many a year to come!x I mingled among some of the new kids...and watched their approach....and it is to be encouraged....and supported. They added a sparkle to the occasion and indeed can dance....those not in platforms anyway!!x Great to see...and the dress code too.....I saw a pair of 6 buttoned/3 flap waisters on a young un.....and was dead jel......always wanted a pair....and they looked good!x I waddled off...silly prat in a hat back to the car happily reminiscing about me childhood in me head....which is what Kings Hall seems to be about....so on that basis Kev.....JOB DONE....for me!!!x THANK YOU!!x

 

LUV
SOOTY
X

 

I have to go out for the day.....and will add further with pics the next 'chapter'....featuring lots of happenings on Sunday at a Dayer!!x Including me telling Yvonne Renee to shut up and be looked after....she pi**ed herself on the phone and said she's willing to be told and pampered....love it!!x

 

I did her...just like she did me...in the 90's....awesome!!!x

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...I also was done in by another Lady this weekend.....and listened to her 'story'...of you all.....and she has one....which perhaps none of you have heard....or considered!!x Mrs Smith.....and thanx to Maslar...for the inspiration!x I will reveal all her opinions on it all too....this evening!!x

 

 

X

Edited December 10, 2013 by SOOTY

[Guest]

Ill take the morning off next time you do a report not changed a lot for you I bet and dancing hope you have that recorded ?

best

C

[Wiggyflat]

Small room till 2 until all the obvious oldies were played then...main room Now you've got the upper hand,Combinations,Nabay,Gerri Hall,Damon Fox,Cliff Nobles,Reggie Garner Hot Line,My Proposal,..in the small room one of the deejays started off great...Eric Mercury,Cecil Washington,Jesse Davis then hecwent r and b rubbish and to top it off a ballad...The Sweets.Music is better after 2 am.Came up from London in a minibus no problems.

[Winnie :-)]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uVlXQQcrpho

 

My first attendance of a Nighter for 10 years.....and Turley's tune spun at Kings Hall...1 of 3 that I danced too during our 4 hours there.....sums up my weekend nicely!!x Thank you all!x

 

I am writing this post to respond en masse to numerous chats and comments had with folk be they Soulies...Promoters...DJ's and the hidden 'gems' behind the scenes!!x I told all I would 'report' back as to my opinons and findings through SS and this post is it!x It's up for discussion...but...as a seasoned 'journeyman'.....and returning after 10 years...then perhaps...it may suit as an article too?(Mike?x) There is lots to share....after 10 years and updating meself...so no apologies!!x

 

I consider my feedback 'sensible and measured'. Why? Well...I don't do drugs as I did for All Nighters back in the 90's. I enjoy a joint Publicly and anyone will tell you that Globally...but anything else is reserved for privacy....in me own home and in more intimate settings....for special occasions instead of a meal out and bottle of Bolly....which I recommend for true lovers!x On that basis....I was meeting 'the people'...and as Pete and I were talking to folk about the DVD at Kings Hall....then yes...as Gordon Russell quite rightly points out on occasion....business is business....and Pete and I both take that 'responsibility' serious. Therefore....I went to Kings Hall with my business head on first.....and the 'social' Soul Scene second......and the following is based on that criteria!x

 

We intended to get to Kings Hall for 9pmish.....but those who travelled via the A14/M6 after 7.45pm....copped 3 diversions.....adding 42 miles....and 2 hours to the journey taking in the wonderful sights of Wolverhampton Town Centre......sigh.....10 minutes too late to miss it the dversion we wos.....£$**(&%"!"&^%((poo.....so we got there after 4 1/2 hours at just after 11pm....and I was genuinely sorry for missing Sean's set and others whom I wanted to catch......bu**er....X

 

Upon arrival I was met at the door by a Luvly Lady who announced with a huge smile like a 'I remember now moment' a conversation I hadn't been part of........"....ahhhh.....I know who you are now...the Charity Soul doo at Knottingley....!" She then announced her broken toe is fixed....and so I said I wos happy to hear that and she took me £30 quid for the 2 of us!x We had some kit with us...a telly and things to show the DVD.....and headed for the Record room......which has gone since I last went...!! Dealers now 'gel' in the 2nd room with KICKING TUNES accompanying them.......which sadly meant for us.....the environment wasn't conducive to 'talking' with folk about the film!!!! So sadly...and I mean that....we had to seek elsewhere to go!x Pete had never been to a Nighter...or a Soul Night proper....but he knows the craic and mucked in by staying put in the room with our kit whilst I went to seek where to camp....sensibly!! I took that moment to head for the Balcony to take an overview of 'the happening'....but got as far as the steps half way up...and was met by a bouncer and 2 platformed shoed 'teenage' girls...dressed for clubbing and as I looked approachable in me 3/4 length jeans and UJ jacket and hat.....asked if I would teach them too dance......!!!!! The bouncer said he can't help em as it was his first time working a Northern doo...as it was for most of them I discovered!x Their 'husky Joe Lifeguard' poses wilted...or relaxed as the night wore on...which was nice to witness!x

 

Dancing lessons??? It's been topical on SS in recent months....and I gave my passionate speech to these young Lady's based on taking those comments on board...and my sincere feeling.......and said....'Dancing 'lessons'???" It's a feeeeeeeeling girls.....stand near the edge of the floor....watch others....and let the music move you....it'll happen I promise!!! Nobody gives a to** what you do either....I do me own thing....'naturally'.....just get on with it!!"....and gave them a huuuge re-assuring smile with which the Bouncer nodded in agreement whilst grinning too! I saw them venturing onto the floor about 2 hours later....together....tip toeing and stepping around in their platforms....in time.....job done!!x On my way down from the Balcony I bumped into Sammy on the way up who features on the DVD and on Paul Masons Cultural show t'other week......but I didn't tell him about the girls whom he would have trained...personally i'm sure...hehe!x He was too busy wanting to talk about our 'togetherness'...10 years ago.....which was BRILL....and nice to be remembered so fondly mate....nice 1 Sammy...!!X

 

When reaching the foyer again....Kev Roberts was chilling there....and I took my chance to shake his hand and genuinely thank him for providing the function for us all!x It was 'kicking'!x He then went beyond what some of you may expect of him....I wasn't surprised as he has always been helpful and friendly when our paths have crossed or needed too since first meeting him in the 90's. I told him of our dilemma and looked to him for a solution....and a superb one he found too....!x He suggested we set up at the entrance to the old corridor where the record rooms used to be! It was right opposite the middle doors to the main room and a perfect place to talk to folk who stopped to watch the film whilst peering through the door at the stage and hearing EVERY TUNE whilst there!!! Thanx Kev.....and indeed....his suggestion and assistance showed no signs of being 'anti' or uncaring with his attitude towards genuine Soulies that some out there consider he may have!x

By now....i'd been about half an hour....during that time...Pete...my Producer friend...had been listening to tunes in the 2nd room......and had a massive 'content' smile on his face as I walked to the bar towards him....because of the tunes he'd been privvy too in that 1/2 hour!!x To impress him....takes some....i dunno who was on during 11pm-11.45ish....but you did it for him......and by default...for me too....THANK YOU!!x

 

Now...'the night'. No it wasn't played during my 4 hours there.....but....was expecting it any moment.....more later!x We set up...and were MOBBED....soon as!x The Kings Hall 'Management' from the Council...Tim and his good Lady Manager whom I think was called...?? I'llfind out now!x .....I can't thank enough either...X They trusted Pete and I and allowed us access to the corridor which is now firmly locked to get access to a plug socket!! Tim in particular who had just taken over as Duty manager kept returning to make sure we were ok! Luvly fella....and he gave me an update on how the function has fared from his perspective over recent years....and ALL was good! I said during our early chat that I thought the Bouncers 'husky Joe' approach was a bit OTT at the time.....he acknowledged my sentiments! However....as I said...after chatting with many of them as they prowled the corridor....I was able to report to Tim as I left that their attitude and 'stance' had indeed mellowed and become more relaxed as they realised Northern gigs ain't like 'that'!!!x Super stuff too which Tim received warmly...X I gave him and his Lady Manager a copy of the DVD which he was pleased to have and understand more of 'the scene'. As an ex promoter....my findings were that it is all sitting pretty for 2014...and beyond...as far as the Council are concerned!! Nice 1!x

......ooooops......having said that.....erm...I was contacted on Sunday afternoon to be told a punch up had actually occurred between 2 Soulies after we had left....!!! A spat brewing for 30 years I understand but report such in the interests of balance!!! But....in 9 years of promoting....I never had 1 to deal with.....but in the grand scale.....I would believe it a very rare occurrence at Kings Hall too....X

 

UPDATE/Edit.... I have just spoken to Tim to ask the Lady's name...Janice was it...and I wanted to get their names right!x Thanx Janice!x I gave them a DVD and look forward to their feedback which they have promised to give!!x He just reported that the biggest 'problem' they had for the night was a Young Lady.....who had dislocated her knee cap....whilst dancing..........................................................................! Erm...I thanked him and put the phone down sharpish................hehe!!x

 

The 4 hours were spent in the corridor greeting old friends and faces and meeting many new ones including many of you 'regulars' who read in here!x In fact there are more readers who said hello....than talkers!x The 'silent majority' spoke...and your opinions were indeed appreciated.....nice 1 all!!x Good friends Ian...Jack....had spent many times on the Mini bus with me over the 9 years I trekked nationally....and it was fantastic to see them both still 'active' and excited by the scene!x Ian has continued his collecting which he re-started after coming to our Soul Nights in Cambridge '93. He had nowhere to go based in Ipswich...and he found a 'home' with us.....and he said i;m responsible for his still 'habit'...of collecting!!x Others commented on his 'quality' collection he has gathered over the past 20 years....but Ian...being a laid back guy....does some DJing....but doesn't like DJing really he said....and I can believe that!x A luvly unassuming fella...and mutual friend to Ted Massey too! Ted waved at us both from the end of the corridor...but I didn't have the chance to meet you Ted or hear your stuff......but Ian said you is 'kicking ass'.....and that mate....is good enuff for me to believe in...he knows his stuff...and people...and his judgement is 'consistent' with folk who have reported back on your input to us all as being 'super'.....to me in the past 20+ years.....as I have said mate!!x Nice 1...and I do look forward to hearing your stuff somewhere soon...and your 'students'.....!!!x

 

The main room.....as said...ear wigged every tune...and saw all reactions to all...during the 4 hours. The screens i'll mention first. Again...been good debate in here about such things at venues...showing the tunes being played. It was the first time i;d seen such personally....aaaaand.....I HATED IT!!!!!!!!!!!! As a dancer......it took away my 'natural' physical reaction to a tune away....knowing in advance what was coming!! No more would the surprise of trumpets announcing the arrival of The Majestics...be uplifting...or the Frankie Beverly BURST launch u outta ure seat.....for me....the brain took over the groove!!!!!! YES...I see the interest and they are a good thing....to see a label...super....like it. But..it killed me....straight up!! My solution to help dancers and watchers??? Delay the pic until 30 seconds after it kicking off.......simples!!

Naturally...it messed me up! Took away the excitement....and made it...for me....brain active not dance gear. Most dancers I know...feel it.....they just need reminding what it wos afterwards!!x It is a 'dance' venue....and folk go there to do it...I genuinely feel it better to not show the tune in advance.....if it can be avoided!X

 

As for the tunes I was privvy too......well...I danced 3 times. The first tune was 'Im Not Built That Way...Hesitations....an old favourite spin I had in the 90's.....then Don't Pretend by The Belles...again another old spin......and as I was leaving...telly in hand...Turley came on...which i;d never heard before until in this forum a few months back...and it dragged me back into the room for me last dance!!!!x Although I was busy....and was reserving my energy for the next days Dayer too.....to be very honest.....nothing else made me dance!!x Indeed I would go as far as this.......the DJ's tunes playing n the background of the DVD 10 years ago.....being played by some of those who DJ'd this weekend....pi**ed all over the 'quality' as to what was spun Saturday!! During my 4 hours....so 'obvious' a tune was played one after the other...it;'s a good job the majority where 'on it'...as discussed with Tim the Manager this morning....otherwise...the tunes wouldn't have inspired alone....methinks!x Yes top 500 is the theme.....but to hear the same 50 outta them....pop end too...was disappointing. I heard over 250 tunes on Sunday at the dayer....spun by perhaps 10 + DJ's....and many 'classics'/Oldies among them which packed the floor. Not once did I hear anything from those top 50 obvious...all day!! It is all I heard....and am sad to have to report that. There is no excuse when having an 'easy' appreciative crowd....chomping at the bit for any tune to give it some too...to play just 'any' tune. No real adventure....and as said....Turley....was it for me....the only track i had never heard 'live' or danced too in me life....in 4 hours!!x The DJ's can do better.....listen to yourselves on the DVD 10 years ago......i;m sorry to have dropped in from a time warp or summink....but either you can't be ar*ed....or....realised you didn't need to 'entertain'? Anyone could have turned up and had it away so to speak....but to inspire??? Different thing...and I didn't see anyone do that during my time there......and hoped for better really...X

 

So...people wise....from Kev...to behind the scene folk...and Soulies....and indeed Ginger..Dave Evison and the few DJ's I spoke with.....from a social perspective......BRILLIANT and thank you all for the welcome back as such!x My comments ain;t personal...strictly business....as Gordon would like it...!!x Business done...which included 62 copy's of the DVD among it all...Pete sorted that!!x His opinion??? He heard more ';quality' in the half hour in the little room than he did in the main room in 4 hours......I am the messenger!x ....but after all we have said...I would recommend going.....and sincerely hope it is there for many a year to come!x I mingled among some of the new kids...and watched their approach....and it is to be encouraged....and supported. They added a sparkle to the occasion and indeed can dance....those not in platforms anyway!!x Great to see...and the dress code too.....I saw a pair of 6 buttoned/3 flap waisters on a young un.....and was dead jel......always wanted a pair....and they looked good!x I waddled off...silly prat in a hat back to the car happily reminiscing about me childhood in me head....which is what Kings Hall seems to be about....so on that basis Kev.....JOB DONE....for me!!!x THANK YOU!!x

 

LUV

SOOTY

X

 

I have to go out for the day.....and will add further with pics the next 'chapter'....featuring lots of happenings on Sunday at a Dayer!!x Including me telling Yvonne Renee to shut up and be looked after....she pi**ed herself on the phone and said she's willing to be told and pampered....love it!!x

 

I did her...just like she did me...in the 90's....awesome!!!x

@@

~

 

...I also was done in by another Lady this weekend.....and listened to her 'story'...of you all.....and she has one....which perhaps none of you have heard....or considered!!x Mrs Smith.....and thanx to Maslar...for the inspiration!x I will reveal all her opinions on it all too....this evening!!x

 

 

X

So to précis what you've said.

You were there 4 hours

You talked to a lot of people

You danced 3 times

And it was a good night   

[Sooty]

So to précis what you've said.

You were there 4 hours

You talked to a lot of people

You danced 3 times

And it was a good night   

 

Since my first Northern function...Keele xmas 1992....I have never ever not enjoyed meself Winnie.....and nobody can say different!x Correct!x My choice...not a promoter or DJ's...fortunately!!x I won't let the bu**ers control me life......whatever next!!!x

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LUV

SOOTY

X

 

...off t'Blackpool.....see the light....s.....X

[ZootSuit]

goOd sound had it 4 years !!!!   NOT reD ALL THE ABOVE CANT BE RSED

 

 

I* IS PIZZLED, IF U IS UPSET BY MY REPLY I IS SORRY, C U AT THE PEMBO

Edited December 11, 2013 by ZootSuit

[dthedrug]

 HI All.... At first I though sooty was a off duty copper with his detail of his night out, I found his affirmation of being drug free touching,(bet he likes a pissup?) and the 10 years of missing All-nighters can that be true, why in GODS name would you want to deprive yourself man? 

Sooty I enjoyed your statement I mean write up  DAVE K

[Guest scottie]

nice one sooty maybe see you at the black bee in mcr sometime pal

[John May]

Very interesting that you picked up Turley Richards track, played by Mick H.  It was the track going around in my head on the way home sunday morning, Storming track, & while DJ's are playing tracks like that in there spots, Northern Soul as a long life left yet......Brilliant track, Brilliant night !!

[Alison H]

I am enjoying your write ups Sooty   a bit off the wall at times  but fun nevertheless     

 

Keep doing what you're doing 

 

Ali x

 

Edit: Great tune as well !!!

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[Guest sharmo 1]

Small room till 2 until all the obvious oldies were played then...main room Now you've got the upper hand,Combinations,Nabay,Gerri Hall,Damon Fox,Cliff Nobles,Reggie Garner Hot Line,My Proposal,..in the small room one of the deejays started off great...Eric Mercury,Cecil Washington,Jesse Davis then hecwent r and b rubbish and to top it off a ballad...The Sweets.Music is better after 2 am.Came up from London in a minibus no problems.

Which R-n-b one's mate the closest one to r-n-b would have been Nat hall I can't remember playing any R-n-B after that. Regards Simon.

[Guest gordon russell]

 

Since my first Northern function...Keele xmas 1992....I have never ever not enjoyed meself Winnie.....and nobody can say different!x Correct!x My choice...not a promoter or DJ's...fortunately!!x I won't let the bu**ers control me life......whatever next!!!x

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...off t'Blackpool.....see the light....s.....X

 you went to stoke for four hours.......sold loads of dvd's and went home.....says it all really

[Sooty]

 HI All.... At first I though sooty was a off duty copper with his detail of his night out, I found his affirmation of being drug free touching,(bet he likes a pissup?) and the 10 years of missing All-nighters can that be true, why in GODS name would you want to deprive yourself man? 

Sooty I enjoyed your statement I mean write up  DAVE K

 

....naaaa Dave.....coppers read it tho'!x I ain;t got time for bo**ox with them or anyone else either!x The night I made the DVD...my BM's drivers window was put in and me phone nicked...right outside in Kings Hall slip road. The door was unlocked and the key in the ignition....tw^t. Several weeks later there was an admission that it was an undercover job and 1 'force' assisting another. The other....I had 5 of their 'moguls' in the frame for being naughty in 1 way or t'other over 25 years. I was stopped 17 times thru 5 different Police forces....none of em knew why....just answering 'requests'.......! It all stopped when I didn't do me producers....and when turning up at court...intending to do so for all 17 'stops'.....the first 2 appearances i turned up with my ;'evidence'.....which compromised the Magistrates somewhat! So...suddenly...nobody wanted to read 'the truth'...all charges dropped....everywhere....and The Zurich Insurance company capitulated and eased their 'pressure' on our finest Forces and paid out £4 Million.....to victims of peedo activity whilst in kids homes....over 400 of em to date...victims in the 70's and 80's....folk our ages. So....I was genuinely happy at the Kings Hall 10 years ago....it was a 'chill out' making the film....considering!x The same this weekend. I haven't 'been out'...since the last Charity Soul doo....3 months ago!!!x So..yes...I enjoyed Saturday....and indeed Sunday.....without gear....a few spliffs granted....and seeing as i stopped alcohol in 1980....then...all done on Endorphin.....and good tunes Dave....!!!!x 

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To all those Charity Soul folk and others waiting the 2nd half as such....then i;m sorry!x I'm shot thru now....and have to go to Blackpool....3 times...before Friday 4pm!!! That's after going to Stoke...extra 4 hour journey thru roadworks......back home then immediately to Knottingley for the day.....getting to bed Sunday night 2am after being at the dayer and among the last to leave.....'hard core' we is....no kip Saturday....then leaving Tocs at 4am to go to Washington/Sunderland and back to Knottingley for a few hours kip....(Thanx Toc and Tracey...XX)....then on to Spalding....and Cambridge.which i managed to do by 8pm Monday!x Tuesday....finished off a tiling job I started last week for some folks with learning difficulties who have a flat between them! Left to go play football for an hour....went back...finished tiling at 11pm llast night....went to bed for 5 hours....then took a truck to Blackpool....and back....just loaded for 5am start tomorrow!!x  I wanted to do the 2nd bit of feedback....but it needs thought....and at present...I need 5 hours kip to be ready for me mega 3 trips to Blackpool....forgive me.....nite nite!!x 

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....none Soul folk read I was 'free' this week elsewhere......and I can't say no.........so shipping stuff around the UK for the Philippines.....to be loaded on a Hercules on Sunday.......so....priorities....and as said....forgive me for the delay...X

Thanx for the email Richard(Searling)....much appreciated friend and yes...10 years on.....tis looking good!!x

 

I will hopefully do it Friday.....as at present....I am free.......erm...I said that  about Monday and Tuesday....I was free.....wot day is it? Charity's....pah. Ooops...heard from Drew too re the rehab unit in Rochdale...who are expecting me tomorrow......and I will fit it into 1 of me return trips from Blackpool tomorrow or Friday.....on it!!x.....now nite nite.....and thanx for your understanding.....X

[Sooty]

 

 you went to stoke for four hours.......sold loads of dvd's and went home.....says it all really

 

....I love you Gordon,.....irrelevant!x...and U can't do owt about it!!!x.....nite!!!!!!x

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[Sooty]

....so.....how do you play 24 1/2 tunes...in 58 minutes.....and ram the floor to each tune from the outset......choosing half the set randomly....??? Well...I found out.....

 

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bV4pMIqLAUg

 

I have always approached life since around aged 5 figuring 'your on your own' so to speak when it really counts. That understanding has helped me face whatever reality or circumstance presents itself in life. After having a long day beginning at 5am...and a successful night at Kings Hall.....enduring an extra 4 1/2 hour return journey.....I may have been forgiven for not going to Charity Soul's Dayer at Knottingley as I hadn't slept for nearly 2 days....and had further busy days ahead. But.....my decision was to go and help those 'band of brothers...and Sisters' who have shown their commitment to this 'project' that is rapidly expanding...and I am a better person for it...and thank them all again for the 'experience' and genuine friendship...my efforts returned me....!x

 

I had to go......end of. Toc...the driving force behind Charity Soul had organised for Professor Maitland...whom Charity Soul are funding in the main....was making the trip from York to come and experience a Soul doo!! It was my chance to meet him and pass on some 'personal' messages from Colleagues he'd spent time with on Charity missions globally over the years....friends of mine back in Cambridge! I also needed to get an understanding from him as to what we could achieve further by working together. Within half an hour of him arriving.....we had him sown up to a movie deal....organising a function for us full of nurses.....and starring in his own record release as 'Norman Soul'..........all of which he lapped up....as any good Proff should!!x Job done....and the pics reflect our  happy gathering with this leading scientist whose research is tackling stem cell cancer.....the root of all evil....literally. He was inspiring to us...and he was impressed and proud of us all too!x A super guy and proper cause. Charity Soul will be in a position to give an update on the outcome of these meetings and decisions in the New Year when it intends to go 'National' with its concept and philosophy. As Sooty....the kind of PR man for the outfit...I look forward to sharing that with you all in the New Year with my colleagues....as soon as the fine print and stamps are in place.....but we is excited about it all....and that can be said now!!x Here are some of the key folk who have helped Charity Soul become established and supported since its inception nearly a year ago.....

 

 

 

...sorry about the quality of pics taken adhoc....Topsy Turvy wanted to remain anonymous on the net in case his image was used for sexual deviants interests. We support his right to be safe....so there......!x

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As 'one of the crew'....I was there to help set up for 11am....but.....Toc and Swoz being good friends...insisted i had a couple of hours and I thank them sincerely for that 'support'!!!x They returned at 1pm...and we wos off...for the day! I was looking forward to it....it was the last time I had had 'time out'....same gig....3 months earlier! There was a 'buzz' to walk into this time.....the Proff coming....Yvonne Vernee speaking 'live' from the US....and 2 hours of the night being broadcast via the net....Globally!!! What more could one ask for....except to enjoy it...which I was determined to do! Now....I hadn't eaten 'proper' since me last McDonalds Friday afternoon at some service station somewhere.....so had a wander into the Community Centers Cafe......and a full Sunday home cooked dinner...was on the decks....and the family who piled it onto me plate who look after the Knottingley football folk...Miners...and every 'group' in the area......did themselves proud!x They said they will read this.....and so I say this proper......it is the best Sunday Dinner I have had....for 7 years!!!!x I recommend it to all...!x There you go Mam!x Folk who came for the evening enjoyed burgers and hot dogs too which went down well....so....everything for a Sunday day out....for those thinking of joining us for future events held there!x

 

I am not one for record rooms or owt....I prefer to be in the main room if possible. But....as a joint host/promoter/helper...then you do as is required....! Because of the DVD....and the Proff visiting....and things to discuss with fellow promoters/helpers...then I spent me first few hours in there! 'Quality' time with the likes of Topsy....Swoz...'genuine' folk who.....made me pi** myself with laughter regularly throughout the day! Banter was bang on...and indeed Topsy in particular has been discussed in these forums....and all I can add is.....he's welcome in my company anytime....nice 1 mate...X I have my tent ready and I am setting up camp in his Radio Shack very soon....he insists.....so we will keep you posted as to when that will get aired....if it is allowed...hehe!!x

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Music......as I said above...there was more adventurous 'oldies' played throughout the day than I heard at Kings Hall. Not once in 10 hours did anyone find time to play One Wonderful Moment....or...A Little Bit Hurt as 'obvious' tunes. Both of which would have stormed the floors and i;ve happily played in me time. I would do again. But didn't this day either! Classics they are yep.....forgotten?...absolutely not. Should we forget them? No...but we need reminding of the others too. 10+ DJ''s can't be wrong....can they? Especially when they are packing the floors with alternatives! I found the same in 1993. The same top 10 DJs playing at all the venues the top 10 obvious....and 'creaming' it. Don't get me wrong....Keith Minshull...Brian Rae..Dave Evison...Rob Smith...and the like did it for me at Keele Xmas '92....honest! I danced to Keiths Too Many People by Bobby Goldsboro' 3 times......had it away each time! Never heard it...!! We all got to start somewhere!!! But...20 years on....from 20 years on.......it wasn't required to be so unadventurous let's say!x I heard around 20 'oldies' I had never heard before during the say 10 hours I ear wigged proper. I didn't hear 1 in 4 hours...at a top venue? Not labouring a point...just giving some context so folk can see where i;m coming from!x Having said that.....erm.......it was 'obvious' tunes that saved me and my set...more later.........!!!x

 

Yvonne Vernee ( I think I typed Renee somewhere?!Soz!)...had been kept in touch with by phone to be updated on progress throughout the day. She told me her passion for patronning Charity Soul was because she lost 2 close family members to Cancer and she was made aware of the Proffs research and its potential over in the US. I found her to be a sincere Lady who also like 'being told'! She refused any pampering upon her impending visit and I told her she ain;t coming then unless she allows us to do so! I said be treated like a Lady.....or s*d off! She lu'v d it....and is looking forward to further involvement with Charity Soul!x Super stuff all round and a special thanx to Swoz for his efforts in getting such a respected singer on the Soul scene involved....X

 

Young un's...and Lady's have been 'topical' in Soul Source forums lately.....and we had both at he Dayer....as DJ's and of course Dancers!!x

During the 'live' radio transmission....2 young lads....early 20s....got up....and DJ'd.....and that is when us 'old school'....were in trouble!!! Me and Swoz were after these 'kids'....and they played EVERY TUNE I had lined up as a possibility in me set!!!!! 1 after the other.....couldn't believe it!!!!!

I then realised who it was DJing.....Jonah and Rachels son...from Oldham and our old stomp venue the Hollinwood Club!!! Thing is....I used to play all his tunes....at his Mam and Dads gig....when he was in Rachel's womb..........so not surprising.......or aliens....just 'natural' stuff!!!!x

Little bu**er all the same....!!!!x Sheeesh. Only took 100 with me....down to around 60 to choose from in me box!! 1 in 3...no probs....or so I thought!!!x

 

The radio kit connected into the decks had caused some technical hitches for DJ's here and there during the day/evening.....but I took over after the Radio stuff had been disconnected....and everything back to normal....or so we thought!x I took over from a sweating Sammy whose last couple of records had 'slid' or jumped for some reason.....and neither of us knew why at the time! I then took over.......and rammed it with Little Darling....Marvin Gaye...so I could spend  a minute looking at the deck whilst the tune looked after the people!!!x  I couldn't find any problems that were obvious with the kit.....so followed with a respectful spin for Yvonne of the UK press of Heaven Must Have Sent You...........which I am told is Yvonne singing on that version and not the US iussue?!?!!x Learn summink everyday init!!x BUT....that it when the wheels...knobs and every groove on me tunes....fell off!!! It stuck......10 sec's in.....floor just getting loose....and silence......so start again......same thing....so change deck....chat....pull Supremes...He's All I got...which I was gonna play at some point......and that then slipped too......10 seconds in after dancers were off again!!! Change deck........grab ANY TUNE....chat chat....smile at groaning folk......and I play a request....Hopes and Dreams which was sat up waiting because of the request made before I went up!! Mouth organ saved me...again......but before Jimmy had finished his sentence...the mouth organ slid in....repetetively!!!!ARGHHHHHHHHHHH.........BOTH decks....down! So....I grab ANY TUNE...next to Jimmy Fraser....Jimmy Robbins.....I can't please you.....youths...and stomper folk hit the floor and answered my cries of LEEEETSSSS DAAAANCE....and I held my right index finger on the arm to help the needle run 'up' the sloping hill that the decks were now clearly on...!!! The vibrations and small movement after the Radio kit had been removed....meant the decks were a few inches forward on the table....which has a sloping front edge....and nobody had noticed!!! In fact the whole table was at a slant....! I reached over with my left arm to my box as folk wrestled to flatten the first deck as I held Jimmy Robbins in the groove.....and pulled another tune 'randomly' as I couldn't move.......and put it on the fixed deck!! Didn't know what it was...slung it on....cue'd....and pressed play and hopped for the best.....it held....I looked up....and the floor was cheering and packed too...My Man A Sweet Man....Millie Jackson! NEVER intended to play it....but....it did the trick...for the moment!!!x I let the lads look at the second deck as Millie kicked off.....and as Millie was finishing....she started to stick at t'other end....ARGHHH!!! I was given the 2nd deck back....6 seconds or so of Millie to go...repetitively......grabbed another tune.....knew it could have been 1 of 3 tunes on the same label and genre......cued it....pressed play and said...we is off...and waited for the sound to tell me what i;d picked next.....and Curtis took it away....Move On Up.......!!!!! Looked up.....job done!!! I think Baby Don;t Change Your Mind or Zing Went The Strings of My Heart would have done it too......none of which i;d heard all weekend!! NONE of then would have been played....if i;d have been 'choosing' I'd say...or unless requested!!

When I thought it was all over..........Curtis started to stick as it finished like Millie had......so....both slanting t'other way now!!! No record cued....grabbed another 'randomly'....cued it as Curtis's violins were about to bust a string.......and You Get Your Kicks flew on and grabbed everyones attention as it had cued right......for the first time during me set......!!! Floor packed.....given 2nd deck back.......took a deep breath......realised I was halfway through my hour.....had played....or started about 14 tunes during this tecnical hitch......and decided I was going to have the last half hour away as I wanted too......so got a request out as I knew i;d have 1 or 2 dancers for it....to start....NF Porter....Keep On Keeping on......a luvly 'bassy' backbeat........which kicked off the next problems.......! The sponge underneath the decks had been removed to try and level them up......and NF driving bass......fed back thru the table....and made it jump..........!!!!!! Half way thru....deja vue....grabbed another tune 'randonmly' as there wa silence in the room again....at least the moans had stopped as folk realised there was a problem....which weren't me!!!! Seven Day Fool landed on the deck......Etta started to stick at the end.....and feeding back.........so faded that as I sincerely apologised agaaaaain to all....and grabbed another tune out of me box....randomly...realised what it was.....and thought hmmmm....let's see if that 'holds'....the floor....and the needle! I had been told a few seconds earlier that the heads/needles were the wrong type too.....more suited for modern thin grooved records as opposed to old school fat grooves! I pulled up a tune that i've loved since it arrived in the post 'anonymously' several years ago....as a new release! Never played it out.......so grabbed it happily as the groove was definitely in me mind at the time! I said.....now for summink different.....and 'The Spy' Instru kicked off.....'hard core' hit the floor......whistles went up.......they all knew it and hadn't danced to it for aaaages I gathered.......and then as they were just getting into it.......a luvly voice BLEW THEM ALL AWAY!!!! The same experience I had really when hearing Butch play Bird Walkin' early 90's at the 100Club! It was the only tune I knew that first night....began to dance....and yup......a Lady's voice blew me away!!! The 'Agent For Love' held it's groove...no feedback.....packed the floor....and yes....afterwards....it was the most popular question asked...a....wot was the instru orig called...and B....wtfOOOOk was that...???!!!.....with genuine appreciation of it by DJ's and punters!!! I was pleased!!!x

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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FQ2xCuWc-ws

 

I turned to a 70' track with thinnish grooves....Love is A Serious Business....which suited the decks and not my choices at the time! Needless to say....my heart had gone out of the 'enjoyment' of me 1 night out as a DJ.....and was concentrating on just 'continuity' in some way for the people.....and as there were 2 folk fiddling with the decks.....and Swoz making ready to take over.....I put the Heaven Must Have Sent You back on....for Yvonne etc....it played all the way thru.....and whilst it did and the floor rammed....I decided I didn't want to put another tune on....told Swoz to make ready......as I PICKED the first tune for meself of the night....and said on the mic to all......."there is nothing else to say except.....i'm playing this for me....join me....or sit in ure seats and moan....I don''t care!"........pressed play.....leapt off the stage....and danced to Cry To Me...Solomon Burke. I was gobsmacked.......thought i;d be 'alone' with it....looked round....floor rammed and folk coming up with genuine appreciation for my efforts! Indeed....upon returning to my fellow DJ's and promoters....the most meaningful statement that resonated and made me feel better was when 1 said in front of all....'f*** me Sooty....never seen a seasoned Pro at work.....!" It meant summink....cos I am.....but did i want that....did I??? So....that was my personal reward for all me efforts! Yes i;m glad it was me....I sung a xmas song during some silence which went down well...gave banter out where uncomfortable silences may have filled the room...and 'held' it all together when all around was falling apart.....which is what I do in life............I just wanted a day off.....tbf. Sigh!x There...24 1/2 tunes played in 58 minutes....a floor to each tune for their duration.....and obvious oldies....a 'new' tune....and some 'quality'.....all done randomly....!!! No excuse for any DJ to do worse...is there???...given 3 minutes to 'think'. I had 3 seconds on average!!!!hehe!x

 

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UmnvPnDZUI8

 

Overall tho'...a super day/weekend....and over £1100 raised via Charity Soul. A couple of hundred attended....and many stayed until 10/11pm where we was all treated to some 'quality' by Swoz allowing a luvly Lady...Promoter...DJ...whom I think was called Annie who came from Bolton and does a doo there! It could be Burnley....or Harrogate...! I forgot!x But...I witnessed something I hadn't seen for around 15 years! Annie went through another DJ's box and played the alternate tune! At a gig in Cambridge circa 1998....we swapped boxes...3 of us....me...Pat Loasby...(RIP)....and a local Cambridge lad called Andy! We all did our set with each others tunes! The same outcome was had that night...as was had by Annie and Swoz....a SUPERB set....which the owners of the said boxes were surprised to hear coming out of their collection!!! How many times do you stop at a tune....want to play it...know you should....but skip it for the guaranteed and the like?!x Imagine hearing that tune......precisely!! Swoz was gobsmacked at what he hadn't played for yeaaaars that Annie pulled out! I recommend it among 'friends'...for the craic one night!!x

 

I can't thank enough Kev and Richard at Stoke for thie friendly welcome and the Charity Soul folk with Toc and his Luvly wife Tracey deserving a special mention for their quality hospitality shown to me.....thank you all!!x Now i;m getting the hang of it all.....again.....i'll be back for more....I reckon!!x

 

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I would like to take this opportunity to thank all you well wishers for my birthday plugs yesterday!! I did like them.....and do we grow up really?? Why?x

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I go away later today for perhaps a week and look forward to chilling with you all when I return over the festive season via banter and the like in here!x Have a Merry one all!x

 

...THE DVD...!! Those who have ordered through Paypal or any other method.....they are being posted today/tomorrow and you will have them for Xmas!x There are 27 copy's left from the Xmas stock which have been placed on Ebay for a 3 day campaign. If you want one still....then that is the only source until after Xmas!x Thanx again for your 'support' of that!x I said I was going to update folk on the Rochdale Rehab unit I was due to visit. Unfortunately I couldn't....physically'....do it among 4 trips to Blackpool from Cambridge over 2 days! I spoke to Carol who relayed messages to those involved....and a new date is to be arranged after the 20th January for me to visit 'proper' and give you feedback on that trip then!x I haven't forgotten Mrs Smith either.....but I will save that 'story' for xmas......!!x There Rob........a few more weeks to 'stress'.......his Mam told me EVERYTHING....since he was aged 5/6....! It made my day having a proper chat with Mrs Smith....something I hadn't done since first meeting her in 1994!!!x Yes....a happy day.....considering!x Thanx....X

 

BRAV,,,,,,,my kind of guy mate......THANK YOU....X

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[Steve S 60]

Winnie, any chance of a precis of the above?

[Sooty]

Winnie, any chance of a precis of the above?

...it wos wicked bruv!x Status......happy!x

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...it wos wicked bruv!x Status......happy!x

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Cheers Sooty, short and sweet.

 

My prediction for next December is looking dodgy......

 

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[Winnie :-)]

Winnie, any chance of a precis of the above?

Looking at it on my phone Steve, by the time I got to the beginning my phone started to bleep...it's the 'battery critical warning'. Should have taken into account, it's a phone not a kindle :-):-)

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....I love you Gordon,.....irrelevant!x...and U can't do owt about it!!!x.....nite!!!!!!x

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 Why should l want to? as back in the day (well your day anyway) kept right away from your goings on........said before all you're about is self promotion always have always will,coupled with your Walter mitty streak....who else would set up their own lookback rather than use the one provided.

[Gene-r]

Opinions are like assholes.  Not just that everyone has one, but some are more full of sh*t than others.

Edited December 17, 2013 by Gene-R

[toc]

Clearly a difference of opinion and character there but wot we are trying to achieve at charity soul is there for everyone to see , raise money thro the music we love to donate to professor Norman maitland in his 25 year attempt to find the cure for cancer is there to be seen by all , I would like to thank sooty for his time and effort in helping us , like I would the rest of the guys and girls , Swoz , topsy , Elli , , travelling for hours to be with us , cos they want to but most of all , cos they can , the reason it strikes a chord in most peeps lives is that we have all lost someone or know someone who has , and it ain't going away ,Yvonne vernee has lost 2 brothers to it , that's why she wants to be with us , all our local d js who all work for free , many thanks , we are going to be busier next year , clubs around the country are just finding out about us and want to help , we are trying to get our charity no , u need 5 k , we are over half way there in 4 months sooty not 12 , it's 5 months since I bought that record off u thro soul source and that's when I asked u about my idea , and u backed me 100% , now the friendship is formed and off we go in search of funds to help the prof , who is a fantastic guy in his own rights , without peeps like him we wud all be in shit street , so lets not be negative Gordon as we are doing our best to help solve a problem that we are struggling with at the mo ,believe it or not we have had a bit of negative feedback but in general everyone is behind us so lets get behind the project and raise some serios doe for the pro and try and let him achieve his own personal ambition and find a cure for the dreaded desease , oh by the way 98% of money raised will go to him once we get our charity no , so Chou for now , toc

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Clearly a difference of opinion and character there but wot we are trying to achieve at charity soul is there for everyone to see , raise money thro the music we love to donate to professor Norman maitland in his 25 year attempt to find the cure for cancer is there to be seen by all , I would like to thank sooty for his time and effort in helping us , like I would the rest of the guys and girls , Swoz , topsy , Elli , , travelling for hours to be with us , cos they want to but most of all , cos they can , the reason it strikes a chord in most peeps lives is that we have all lost someone or know someone who has , and it ain't going away ,Yvonne vernee has lost 2 brothers to it , that's why she wants to be with us , all our local d js who all work for free , many thanks , we are going to be busier next year , clubs around the country are just finding out about us and want to help , we are trying to get our charity no , u need 5 k , we are over half way there in 4 months sooty not 12 , it's 5 months since I bought that record off u thro soul source and that's when I asked u about my idea , and u backed me 100% , now the friendship is formed and off we go in search of funds to help the prof , who is a fantastic guy in his own rights , without peeps like him we wud all be in shit street , so lets not be negative Gordon as we are doing our best to help solve a problem that we are struggling with at the mo ,believe it or not we have had a bit of negative feedback but in general everyone is behind us so lets get behind the project and raise some serios doe for the pro and try and let him achieve his own personal ambition and find a cure for the dreaded desease , oh by the way 98% of money raised will go to him once we get our charity no , so Chou for now , toc

 Not really being negative mate....just fed up with err people using this scene to further their own ends whilst (despite what they say) telling us all what SOULIES they are....when in fact they're not.People seem to be taken in..one after the other,time after time atb jim.

[Winnie :-)]

Clearly a difference of opinion and character there but wot we are trying to achieve at charity soul is there for everyone to see , raise money thro the music we love to donate to professor Norman maitland in his 25 year attempt to find the cure for cancer is there to be seen by all , I would like to thank sooty for his time and effort in helping us , like I would the rest of the guys and girls , Swoz , topsy , Elli , , travelling for hours to be with us , cos they want to but most of all , cos they can , the reason it strikes a chord in most peeps lives is that we have all lost someone or know someone who has , and it ain't going away ,Yvonne vernee has lost 2 brothers to it , that's why she wants to be with us , all our local d js who all work for free , many thanks , we are going to be busier next year , clubs around the country are just finding out about us and want to help , we are trying to get our charity no , u need 5 k , we are over half way there in 4 months sooty not 12 , it's 5 months since I bought that record off u thro soul source and that's when I asked u about my idea , and u backed me 100% , now the friendship is formed and off we go in search of funds to help the prof , who is a fantastic guy in his own rights , without peeps like him we wud all be in shit street , so lets not be negative Gordon as we are doing our best to help solve a problem that we are struggling with at the mo ,believe it or not we have had a bit of negative feedback but in general everyone is behind us so lets get behind the project and raise some serios doe for the pro and try and let him achieve his own personal ambition and find a cure for the dreaded desease , oh by the way 98% of money raised will go to him once we get our charity no , so Chou for now , toc

Maybe you could give Sooty some lessons in writing Toc, your post encapsulates everything you're both trying to do, without going at it from the 'War and Peace' perspective (length wise) Whilst I'm not as direct as other posters, it can't go unnoticed that most of Sooty's missives include massive swathes of writing about himself and his experiences and this is generally what brings people to believe that he's all about being self serving. I have mentioned it in the past to him, sometimes less is more 

[Steve G]

Shouldn't this be in events feedback? Or even "freebasing"?

[toc]

Rather amusing to say the least , our scene has always been similar to football in that its all about opinions , hence wots going down at the mo , one thing for sure that aint going down is no one is coming forward and saying " good luck guys " or " where can I donate " or " wot can I do to help , , I/ we have always tried to spread the word correctly without forcing it onto peeps as there is too much legalised begging at the mo , trouble is how much actually gets to the front line ,?,I / we can guarantee that approx 98% of our donations will go to Noman and his laboratory at York ,so if there's anybody out there in these difficult financial times that would like to help us then e mail me on terry@charitysoul.com , all help or donations will be welcome , sorry if this post is in the wrong section ?? Mr opinion is at it again , he he have a good one to one and all , Chou toc

[Orotava]

 sometimes less is more 

 

Amen to that...

[Pete S]

Amen to that...

 

If Sooty stopped using x's as punctuation they'd be much easier to read...

[Dave Rimmer]

If Sooty stopped using x's as punctuation they'd be much easier to read...

 

If Sooty started using punctuation they'd be easier to read.

[Steve S 60]

If Sooty stopped using x's as punctuation they'd be much easier to read...

 

 

If Sooty started using punctuation they'd be easier to read.

 

I just look at the pictures now.

[Gene-r]

I personally find it sickening that a 52 year old grown man still feels the need to write endless vomit-inducing gibberish and, as previously said in a post, with a Walter Mitty streak.

Edited December 17, 2013 by Gene-R

[Pete S]

I personally find it sickening that a 52 year old grown man still feels the need to write endless vomit-inducing gibberish and, as previously said in a post, with a Walter Mitty streak.

 

Ooh that's a bit harsh, the forum can be pretty dull nowadays, there's only so many topics that can be done, as far as I'm concerned Sooty's a breath of fresh air with his positive attitude, although I can see why you and other might find him annoying.

[Pete S]

I personally find it sickening that a 52 year old grown man still feels the need to write endless vomit-inducing gibberish and, as previously said in a post, with a Walter Mitty streak.

 

Er, excuse me, I'm 53 if you don't mind

 

 

 

[KevH]

....so.....how do you play 24 1/2 tunes...in 58 minutes.....and ram the floor to each tune from the outset......choosing half the set randomly....??? Well...I found out.....

 

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bV4pMIqLAUg

 

I have always approached life since around aged 5 figuring 'your on your own' so to speak when it really counts. That understanding has helped me face whatever reality or circumstance presents itself in life. After having a long day beginning at 5am...and a successful night at Kings Hall.....enduring an extra 4 1/2 hour return journey.....I may have been forgiven for not going to Charity Soul's Dayer at Knottingley as I hadn't slept for nearly 2 days....and had further busy days ahead. But.....my decision was to go and help those 'band of brothers...and Sisters' who have shown their commitment to this 'project' that is rapidly expanding...and I am a better person for it...and thank them all again for the 'experience' and genuine friendship...my efforts returned me....!x

 

I had to go......end of. Toc...the driving force behind Charity Soul had organised for Professor Maitland...whom Charity Soul are funding in the main....was making the trip from York to come and experience a Soul doo!! It was my chance to meet him and pass on some 'personal' messages from Colleagues he'd spent time with on Charity missions globally over the years....friends of mine back in Cambridge! I also needed to get an understanding from him as to what we could achieve further by working together. Within half an hour of him arriving.....we had him sown up to a movie deal....organising a function for us full of nurses.....and starring in his own record release as 'Norman Soul'..........all of which he lapped up....as any good Proff should!!x Job done....and the pics reflect our  happy gathering with this leading scientist whose research is tackling stem cell cancer.....the root of all evil....literally. He was inspiring to us...and he was impressed and proud of us all too!x A super guy and proper cause. Charity Soul will be in a position to give an update on the outcome of these meetings and decisions in the New Year when it intends to go 'National' with its concept and philosophy. As Sooty....the kind of PR man for the outfit...I look forward to sharing that with you all in the New Year with my colleagues....as soon as the fine print and stamps are in place.....but we is excited about it all....and that can be said now!!x Here are some of the key folk who have helped Charity Soul become established and supported since its inception nearly a year ago.....

 

 

 

...sorry about the quality of pics taken adhoc....Topsy Turvy wanted to remain anonymous on the net in case his image was used for sexual deviants interests. We support his right to be safe....so there......!x

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As 'one of the crew'....I was there to help set up for 11am....but.....Toc and Swoz being good friends...insisted i had a couple of hours and I thank them sincerely for that 'support'!!!x They returned at 1pm...and we wos off...for the day! I was looking forward to it....it was the last time I had had 'time out'....same gig....3 months earlier! There was a 'buzz' to walk into this time.....the Proff coming....Yvonne Vernee speaking 'live' from the US....and 2 hours of the night being broadcast via the net....Globally!!! What more could one ask for....except to enjoy it...which I was determined to do! Now....I hadn't eaten 'proper' since me last McDonalds Friday afternoon at some service station somewhere.....so had a wander into the Community Centers Cafe......and a full Sunday home cooked dinner...was on the decks....and the family who piled it onto me plate who look after the Knottingley football folk...Miners...and every 'group' in the area......did themselves proud!x They said they will read this.....and so I say this proper......it is the best Sunday Dinner I have had....for 7 years!!!!x I recommend it to all...!x There you go Mam!x Folk who came for the evening enjoyed burgers and hot dogs too which went down well....so....everything for a Sunday day out....for those thinking of joining us for future events held there!x

 

I am not one for record rooms or owt....I prefer to be in the main room if possible. But....as a joint host/promoter/helper...then you do as is required....! Because of the DVD....and the Proff visiting....and things to discuss with fellow promoters/helpers...then I spent me first few hours in there! 'Quality' time with the likes of Topsy....Swoz...'genuine' folk who.....made me pi** myself with laughter regularly throughout the day! Banter was bang on...and indeed Topsy in particular has been discussed in these forums....and all I can add is.....he's welcome in my company anytime....nice 1 mate...X I have my tent ready and I am setting up camp in his Radio Shack very soon....he insists.....so we will keep you posted as to when that will get aired....if it is allowed...hehe!!x

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Music......as I said above...there was more adventurous 'oldies' played throughout the day than I heard at Kings Hall. Not once in 10 hours did anyone find time to play One Wonderful Moment....or...A Little Bit Hurt as 'obvious' tunes. Both of which would have stormed the floors and i;ve happily played in me time. I would do again. But didn't this day either! Classics they are yep.....forgotten?...absolutely not. Should we forget them? No...but we need reminding of the others too. 10+ DJ''s can't be wrong....can they? Especially when they are packing the floors with alternatives! I found the same in 1993. The same top 10 DJs playing at all the venues the top 10 obvious....and 'creaming' it. Don't get me wrong....Keith Minshull...Brian Rae..Dave Evison...Rob Smith...and the like did it for me at Keele Xmas '92....honest! I danced to Keiths Too Many People by Bobby Goldsboro' 3 times......had it away each time! Never heard it...!! We all got to start somewhere!!! But...20 years on....from 20 years on.......it wasn't required to be so unadventurous let's say!x I heard around 20 'oldies' I had never heard before during the say 10 hours I ear wigged proper. I didn't hear 1 in 4 hours...at a top venue? Not labouring a point...just giving some context so folk can see where i;m coming from!x Having said that.....erm.......it was 'obvious' tunes that saved me and my set...more later.........!!!x

 

Yvonne Vernee ( I think I typed Renee somewhere?!Soz!)...had been kept in touch with by phone to be updated on progress throughout the day. She told me her passion for patronning Charity Soul was because she lost 2 close family members to Cancer and she was made aware of the Proffs research and its potential over in the US. I found her to be a sincere Lady who also like 'being told'! She refused any pampering upon her impending visit and I told her she ain;t coming then unless she allows us to do so! I said be treated like a Lady.....or s*d off! She lu'v d it....and is looking forward to further involvement with Charity Soul!x Super stuff all round and a special thanx to Swoz for his efforts in getting such a respected singer on the Soul scene involved....X

 

Young un's...and Lady's have been 'topical' in Soul Source forums lately.....and we had both at he Dayer....as DJ's and of course Dancers!!x

During the 'live' radio transmission....2 young lads....early 20s....got up....and DJ'd.....and that is when us 'old school'....were in trouble!!! Me and Swoz were after these 'kids'....and they played EVERY TUNE I had lined up as a possibility in me set!!!!! 1 after the other.....couldn't believe it!!!!!

I then realised who it was DJing.....Jonah and Rachels son...from Oldham and our old stomp venue the Hollinwood Club!!! Thing is....I used to play all his tunes....at his Mam and Dads gig....when he was in Rachel's womb..........so not surprising.......or aliens....just 'natural' stuff!!!!x

Little bu**er all the same....!!!!x Sheeesh. Only took 100 with me....down to around 60 to choose from in me box!! 1 in 3...no probs....or so I thought!!!x

 

The radio kit connected into the decks had caused some technical hitches for DJ's here and there during the day/evening.....but I took over after the Radio stuff had been disconnected....and everything back to normal....or so we thought!x I took over from a sweating Sammy whose last couple of records had 'slid' or jumped for some reason.....and neither of us knew why at the time! I then took over.......and rammed it with Little Darling....Marvin Gaye...so I could spend  a minute looking at the deck whilst the tune looked after the people!!!x  I couldn't find any problems that were obvious with the kit.....so followed with a respectful spin for Yvonne of the UK press of Heaven Must Have Sent You...........which I am told is Yvonne singing on that version and not the US iussue?!?!!x Learn summink everyday init!!x BUT....that it when the wheels...knobs and every groove on me tunes....fell off!!! It stuck......10 sec's in.....floor just getting loose....and silence......so start again......same thing....so change deck....chat....pull Supremes...He's All I got...which I was gonna play at some point......and that then slipped too......10 seconds in after dancers were off again!!! Change deck........grab ANY TUNE....chat chat....smile at groaning folk......and I play a request....Hopes and Dreams which was sat up waiting because of the request made before I went up!! Mouth organ saved me...again......but before Jimmy had finished his sentence...the mouth organ slid in....repetetively!!!!ARGHHHHHHHHHHH.........BOTH decks....down! So....I grab ANY TUNE...next to Jimmy Fraser....Jimmy Robbins.....I can't please you.....youths...and stomper folk hit the floor and answered my cries of LEEEETSSSS DAAAANCE....and I held my right index finger on the arm to help the needle run 'up' the sloping hill that the decks were now clearly on...!!! The vibrations and small movement after the Radio kit had been removed....meant the decks were a few inches forward on the table....which has a sloping front edge....and nobody had noticed!!! In fact the whole table was at a slant....! I reached over with my left arm to my box as folk wrestled to flatten the first deck as I held Jimmy Robbins in the groove.....and pulled another tune 'randomly' as I couldn't move.......and put it on the fixed deck!! Didn't know what it was...slung it on....cue'd....and pressed play and hopped for the best.....it held....I looked up....and the floor was cheering and packed too...My Man A Sweet Man....Millie Jackson! NEVER intended to play it....but....it did the trick...for the moment!!!x I let the lads look at the second deck as Millie kicked off.....and as Millie was finishing....she started to stick at t'other end....ARGHHH!!! I was given the 2nd deck back....6 seconds or so of Millie to go...repetitively......grabbed another tune.....knew it could have been 1 of 3 tunes on the same label and genre......cued it....pressed play and said...we is off...and waited for the sound to tell me what i;d picked next.....and Curtis took it away....Move On Up.......!!!!! Looked up.....job done!!! I think Baby Don;t Change Your Mind or Zing Went The Strings of My Heart would have done it too......none of which i;d heard all weekend!! NONE of then would have been played....if i;d have been 'choosing' I'd say...or unless requested!!

When I thought it was all over..........Curtis started to stick as it finished like Millie had......so....both slanting t'other way now!!! No record cued....grabbed another 'randomly'....cued it as Curtis's violins were about to bust a string.......and You Get Your Kicks flew on and grabbed everyones attention as it had cued right......for the first time during me set......!!! Floor packed.....given 2nd deck back.......took a deep breath......realised I was halfway through my hour.....had played....or started about 14 tunes during this tecnical hitch......and decided I was going to have the last half hour away as I wanted too......so got a request out as I knew i;d have 1 or 2 dancers for it....to start....NF Porter....Keep On Keeping on......a luvly 'bassy' backbeat........which kicked off the next problems.......! The sponge underneath the decks had been removed to try and level them up......and NF driving bass......fed back thru the table....and made it jump..........!!!!!! Half way thru....deja vue....grabbed another tune 'randonmly' as there wa silence in the room again....at least the moans had stopped as folk realised there was a problem....which weren't me!!!! Seven Day Fool landed on the deck......Etta started to stick at the end.....and feeding back.........so faded that as I sincerely apologised agaaaaain to all....and grabbed another tune out of me box....randomly...realised what it was.....and thought hmmmm....let's see if that 'holds'....the floor....and the needle! I had been told a few seconds earlier that the heads/needles were the wrong type too.....more suited for modern thin grooved records as opposed to old school fat grooves! I pulled up a tune that i've loved since it arrived in the post 'anonymously' several years ago....as a new release! Never played it out.......so grabbed it happily as the groove was definitely in me mind at the time! I said.....now for summink different.....and 'The Spy' Instru kicked off.....'hard core' hit the floor......whistles went up.......they all knew it and hadn't danced to it for aaaages I gathered.......and then as they were just getting into it.......a luvly voice BLEW THEM ALL AWAY!!!! The same experience I had really when hearing Butch play Bird Walkin' early 90's at the 100Club! It was the only tune I knew that first night....began to dance....and yup......a Lady's voice blew me away!!! The 'Agent For Love' held it's groove...no feedback.....packed the floor....and yes....afterwards....it was the most popular question asked...a....wot was the instru orig called...and B....wtfOOOOk was that...???!!!.....with genuine appreciation of it by DJ's and punters!!! I was pleased!!!x

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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FQ2xCuWc-ws

 

I turned to a 70' track with thinnish grooves....Love is A Serious Business....which suited the decks and not my choices at the time! Needless to say....my heart had gone out of the 'enjoyment' of me 1 night out as a DJ.....and was concentrating on just 'continuity' in some way for the people.....and as there were 2 folk fiddling with the decks.....and Swoz making ready to take over.....I put the Heaven Must Have Sent You back on....for Yvonne etc....it played all the way thru.....and whilst it did and the floor rammed....I decided I didn't want to put another tune on....told Swoz to make ready......as I PICKED the first tune for meself of the night....and said on the mic to all......."there is nothing else to say except.....i'm playing this for me....join me....or sit in ure seats and moan....I don''t care!"........pressed play.....leapt off the stage....and danced to Cry To Me...Solomon Burke. I was gobsmacked.......thought i;d be 'alone' with it....looked round....floor rammed and folk coming up with genuine appreciation for my efforts! Indeed....upon returning to my fellow DJ's and promoters....the most meaningful statement that resonated and made me feel better was when 1 said in front of all....'f*** me Sooty....never seen a seasoned Pro at work.....!" It meant summink....cos I am.....but did i want that....did I??? So....that was my personal reward for all me efforts! Yes i;m glad it was me....I sung a xmas song during some silence which went down well...gave banter out where uncomfortable silences may have filled the room...and 'held' it all together when all around was falling apart.....which is what I do in life............I just wanted a day off.....tbf. Sigh!x There...24 1/2 tunes played in 58 minutes....a floor to each tune for their duration.....and obvious oldies....a 'new' tune....and some 'quality'.....all done randomly....!!! No excuse for any DJ to do worse...is there???...given 3 minutes to 'think'. I had 3 seconds on average!!!!hehe!x

 

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UmnvPnDZUI8

 

Overall tho'...a super day/weekend....and over £1100 raised via Charity Soul. A couple of hundred attended....and many stayed until 10/11pm where we was all treated to some 'quality' by Swoz allowing a luvly Lady...Promoter...DJ...whom I think was called Annie who came from Bolton and does a doo there! It could be Burnley....or Harrogate...! I forgot!x But...I witnessed something I hadn't seen for around 15 years! Annie went through another DJ's box and played the alternate tune! At a gig in Cambridge circa 1998....we swapped boxes...3 of us....me...Pat Loasby...(RIP)....and a local Cambridge lad called Andy! We all did our set with each others tunes! The same outcome was had that night...as was had by Annie and Swoz....a SUPERB set....which the owners of the said boxes were surprised to hear coming out of their collection!!! How many times do you stop at a tune....want to play it...know you should....but skip it for the guaranteed and the like?!x Imagine hearing that tune......precisely!! Swoz was gobsmacked at what he hadn't played for yeaaaars that Annie pulled out! I recommend it among 'friends'...for the craic one night!!x

 

I can't thank enough Kev and Richard at Stoke for thie friendly welcome and the Charity Soul folk with Toc and his Luvly wife Tracey deserving a special mention for their quality hospitality shown to me.....thank you all!!x Now i;m getting the hang of it all.....again.....i'll be back for more....I reckon!!x

 

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LUV

SOOTY

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I would like to take this opportunity to thank all you well wishers for my birthday plugs yesterday!! I did like them.....and do we grow up really?? Why?x

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I go away later today for perhaps a week and look forward to chilling with you all when I return over the festive season via banter and the like in here!x Have a Merry one all!x

 

...THE DVD...!! Those who have ordered through Paypal or any other method.....they are being posted today/tomorrow and you will have them for Xmas!x There are 27 copy's left from the Xmas stock which have been placed on Ebay for a 3 day campaign. If you want one still....then that is the only source until after Xmas!x Thanx again for your 'support' of that!x I said I was going to update folk on the Rochdale Rehab unit I was due to visit. Unfortunately I couldn't....physically'....do it among 4 trips to Blackpool from Cambridge over 2 days! I spoke to Carol who relayed messages to those involved....and a new date is to be arranged after the 20th January for me to visit 'proper' and give you feedback on that trip then!x I haven't forgotten Mrs Smith either.....but I will save that 'story' for xmas......!!x There Rob........a few more weeks to 'stress'.......his Mam told me EVERYTHING....since he was aged 5/6....! It made my day having a proper chat with Mrs Smith....something I hadn't done since first meeting her in 1994!!!x Yes....a happy day.....considering!x Thanx....X

 

BRAV,,,,,,,my kind of guy mate......THANK YOU....X

 

 

Just swept (Sweep'd) up that one Sooty,it fell off the bottom of the page.!!!

[Jaco]

It all has a feel of Webbydublin about it.

[Swifty]

It all has a feel of Webbydublin about it.

Bloody 'ell , what happened to Webby ??

[Jaco]

Bloody 'ell , what happened to Webby ??

 

Banned, sine die, probably.

[Winnie :-)]

Bloody 'ell , what happened to Webby ??

He currently is 'facebooking' his way through life

[Winnie :-)]

Rather amusing to say the least , our scene has always been similar to football in that its all about opinions , hence wots going down at the mo , one thing for sure that aint going down is no one is coming forward and saying " good luck guys " or " where can I donate " or " wot can I do to help , , I/ we have always tried to spread the word correctly without forcing it onto peeps as there is too much legalised begging at the mo , trouble is how much actually gets to the front line ,?,I / we can guarantee that approx 98% of our donations will go to Noman and his laboratory at York ,so if there's anybody out there in these difficult financial times that would like to help us then e mail me on terry@charitysoul.com , all help or donations will be welcome , sorry if this post is in the wrong section ?? Mr opinion is at it again , he he have a good one to one and all , Chou toc

It's nothing to do with the cause Toc, or the 'legalised begging' you've mentioned, I'm sure all of us would say the charity is admirable and would help if possible, it's about presentation. You put forward your case/comments in little over a paragraph, with a lot more background info and without constantly referring to yourself or the good things you've done or are doing. Not everything is about quantity

[toc]

Tut tut , kick a man while he's down ,shame on u all , if u don't know him he writes like he speaks , 120 mph , in between driving around the country Picking up and delivering supplies to fly over to the philliipines , he gave us 30 hours of his time helping out at charity soul in knottingley , now then correct me if I'm wrong but did I not see a post about keb darge the great Dj missing over there , I hope he has shown up , but did anyone ever think about the other 100,000s plus who went missing and left homeless , well sooty did , hence the help with the supplies and then delivering them to the philliipines , to the starving homeless peeps the worlds forgot about cos it's old news , but hey give me a choice in who u want to help u with doing the good stuff in life to help people who can't help themselves then I'd have a thousand sooties any day , I sincerely hope I get my point across , charity soul is steadily growing , just think twice about knocking good peeps and do summat good yer selves , cheers toc

[Shinehead]

Trouble with Sootys postings is you stop reading before you get to the charity bit because of the length and off topic approach to his musings on here . As someone else said less is more for some things.

[Guest ruppy]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uVlXQQcrpho

 

My first attendance of a Nighter for 10 years.....and Turley's tune spun at Kings Hall...1 of 3 that I danced too during our 4 hours there.....sums up my weekend nicely!!x Thank you all!x

 

I am writing this post to respond en masse to numerous chats and comments had with folk be they Soulies...Promoters...DJ's and the hidden 'gems' behind the scenes!!x I told all I would 'report' back as to my opinons and findings through SS and this post is it!x It's up for discussion...but...as a seasoned 'journeyman'.....and returning after 10 years...then perhaps...it may suit as an article too?(Mike?x) There is lots to share....after 10 years and updating meself...so no apologies!!x

 

I consider my feedback 'sensible and measured'. Why? Well...I don't do drugs as I did for All Nighters back in the 90's. I enjoy a joint Publicly and anyone will tell you that Globally...but anything else is reserved for privacy....in me own home and in more intimate settings....for special occasions instead of a meal out and bottle of Bolly....which I recommend for true lovers!x On that basis....I was meeting 'the people'...and as Pete and I were talking to folk about the DVD at Kings Hall....then yes...as Gordon Russell quite rightly points out on occasion....business is business....and Pete and I both take that 'responsibility' serious. Therefore....I went to Kings Hall with my business head on first.....and the 'social' Soul Scene second......and the following is based on that criteria!x

 

We intended to get to Kings Hall for 9pmish.....but those who travelled via the A14/M6 after 7.45pm....copped 3 diversions.....adding 42 miles....and 2 hours to the journey taking in the wonderful sights of Wolverhampton Town Centre......sigh.....10 minutes too late to miss it the dversion we wos.....£$**(&%"!"&^%((poo.....so we got there after 4 1/2 hours at just after 11pm....and I was genuinely sorry for missing Sean's set and others whom I wanted to catch......bu**er....X

 

Upon arrival I was met at the door by a Luvly Lady who announced with a huge smile like a 'I remember now moment' a conversation I hadn't been part of........"....ahhhh.....I know who you are now...the Charity Soul doo at Knottingley....!" She then announced her broken toe is fixed....and so I said I wos happy to hear that and she took me £30 quid for the 2 of us!x We had some kit with us...a telly and things to show the DVD.....and headed for the Record room......which has gone since I last went...!! Dealers now 'gel' in the 2nd room with KICKING TUNES accompanying them.......which sadly meant for us.....the environment wasn't conducive to 'talking' with folk about the film!!!! So sadly...and I mean that....we had to seek elsewhere to go!x Pete had never been to a Nighter...or a Soul Night proper....but he knows the craic and mucked in by staying put in the room with our kit whilst I went to seek where to camp....sensibly!! I took that moment to head for the Balcony to take an overview of 'the happening'....but got as far as the steps half way up...and was met by a bouncer and 2 platformed shoed 'teenage' girls...dressed for clubbing and as I looked approachable in me 3/4 length jeans and UJ jacket and hat.....asked if I would teach them too dance......!!!!! The bouncer said he can't help em as it was his first time working a Northern doo...as it was for most of them I discovered!x Their 'husky Joe Lifeguard' poses wilted...or relaxed as the night wore on...which was nice to witness!x

 

Dancing lessons??? It's been topical on SS in recent months....and I gave my passionate speech to these young Lady's based on taking those comments on board...and my sincere feeling.......and said....'Dancing 'lessons'???" It's a feeeeeeeeling girls.....stand near the edge of the floor....watch others....and let the music move you....it'll happen I promise!!! Nobody gives a to** what you do either....I do me own thing....'naturally'.....just get on with it!!"....and gave them a huuuge re-assuring smile with which the Bouncer nodded in agreement whilst grinning too! I saw them venturing onto the floor about 2 hours later....together....tip toeing and stepping around in their platforms....in time.....job done!!x On my way down from the Balcony I bumped into Sammy on the way up who features on the DVD and on Paul Masons Cultural show t'other week......but I didn't tell him about the girls whom he would have trained...personally i'm sure...hehe!x He was too busy wanting to talk about our 'togetherness'...10 years ago.....which was BRILL....and nice to be remembered so fondly mate....nice 1 Sammy...!!X

 

When reaching the foyer again....Kev Roberts was chilling there....and I took my chance to shake his hand and genuinely thank him for providing the function for us all!x It was 'kicking'!x He then went beyond what some of you may expect of him....I wasn't surprised as he has always been helpful and friendly when our paths have crossed or needed too since first meeting him in the 90's. I told him of our dilemma and looked to him for a solution....and a superb one he found too....!x He suggested we set up at the entrance to the old corridor where the record rooms used to be! It was right opposite the middle doors to the main room and a perfect place to talk to folk who stopped to watch the film whilst peering through the door at the stage and hearing EVERY TUNE whilst there!!! Thanx Kev.....and indeed....his suggestion and assistance showed no signs of being 'anti' or uncaring with his attitude towards genuine Soulies that some out there consider he may have!x

By now....i'd been about half an hour....during that time...Pete...my Producer friend...had been listening to tunes in the 2nd room......and had a massive 'content' smile on his face as I walked to the bar towards him....because of the tunes he'd been privvy too in that 1/2 hour!!x To impress him....takes some....i dunno who was on during 11pm-11.45ish....but you did it for him......and by default...for me too....THANK YOU!!x

 

Now...'the night'. No it wasn't played during my 4 hours there.....but....was expecting it any moment.....more later!x We set up...and were MOBBED....soon as!x The Kings Hall 'Management' from the Council...Tim and his good Lady Manager whom I think was called...?? I'llfind out now!x .....I can't thank enough either...X They trusted Pete and I and allowed us access to the corridor which is now firmly locked to get access to a plug socket!! Tim in particular who had just taken over as Duty manager kept returning to make sure we were ok! Luvly fella....and he gave me an update on how the function has fared from his perspective over recent years....and ALL was good! I said during our early chat that I thought the Bouncers 'husky Joe' approach was a bit OTT at the time.....he acknowledged my sentiments! However....as I said...after chatting with many of them as they prowled the corridor....I was able to report to Tim as I left that their attitude and 'stance' had indeed mellowed and become more relaxed as they realised Northern gigs ain't like 'that'!!!x Super stuff too which Tim received warmly...X I gave him and his Lady Manager a copy of the DVD which he was pleased to have and understand more of 'the scene'. As an ex promoter....my findings were that it is all sitting pretty for 2014...and beyond...as far as the Council are concerned!! Nice 1!x

......ooooops......having said that.....erm...I was contacted on Sunday afternoon to be told a punch up had actually occurred between 2 Soulies after we had left....!!! A spat brewing for 30 years I understand but report such in the interests of balance!!! But....in 9 years of promoting....I never had 1 to deal with.....but in the grand scale.....I would believe it a very rare occurrence at Kings Hall too....X

 

UPDATE/Edit.... I have just spoken to Tim to ask the Lady's name...Janice was it...and I wanted to get their names right!x Thanx Janice!x I gave them a DVD and look forward to their feedback which they have promised to give!!x He just reported that the biggest 'problem' they had for the night was a Young Lady.....who had dislocated her knee cap....whilst dancing..........................................................................! Erm...I thanked him and put the phone down sharpish................hehe!!x

 

The 4 hours were spent in the corridor greeting old friends and faces and meeting many new ones including many of you 'regulars' who read in here!x In fact there are more readers who said hello....than talkers!x The 'silent majority' spoke...and your opinions were indeed appreciated.....nice 1 all!!x Good friends Ian...Jack....had spent many times on the Mini bus with me over the 9 years I trekked nationally....and it was fantastic to see them both still 'active' and excited by the scene!x Ian has continued his collecting which he re-started after coming to our Soul Nights in Cambridge '93. He had nowhere to go based in Ipswich...and he found a 'home' with us.....and he said i;m responsible for his still 'habit'...of collecting!!x Others commented on his 'quality' collection he has gathered over the past 20 years....but Ian...being a laid back guy....does some DJing....but doesn't like DJing really he said....and I can believe that!x A luvly unassuming fella...and mutual friend to Ted Massey too! Ted waved at us both from the end of the corridor...but I didn't have the chance to meet you Ted or hear your stuff......but Ian said you is 'kicking ass'.....and that mate....is good enuff for me to believe in...he knows his stuff...and people...and his judgement is 'consistent' with folk who have reported back on your input to us all as being 'super'.....to me in the past 20+ years.....as I have said mate!!x Nice 1...and I do look forward to hearing your stuff somewhere soon...and your 'students'.....!!!x

 

The main room.....as said...ear wigged every tune...and saw all reactions to all...during the 4 hours. The screens i'll mention first. Again...been good debate in here about such things at venues...showing the tunes being played. It was the first time i;d seen such personally....aaaaand.....I HATED IT!!!!!!!!!!!! As a dancer......it took away my 'natural' physical reaction to a tune away....knowing in advance what was coming!! No more would the surprise of trumpets announcing the arrival of The Majestics...be uplifting...or the Frankie Beverly BURST launch u outta ure seat.....for me....the brain took over the groove!!!!!! YES...I see the interest and they are a good thing....to see a label...super....like it. But..it killed me....straight up!! My solution to help dancers and watchers??? Delay the pic until 30 seconds after it kicking off.......simples!!

Naturally...it messed me up! Took away the excitement....and made it...for me....brain active not dance gear. Most dancers I know...feel it.....they just need reminding what it wos afterwards!!x It is a 'dance' venue....and folk go there to do it...I genuinely feel it better to not show the tune in advance.....if it can be avoided!X

 

As for the tunes I was privvy too......well...I danced 3 times. The first tune was 'Im Not Built That Way...Hesitations....an old favourite spin I had in the 90's.....then Don't Pretend by The Belles...again another old spin......and as I was leaving...telly in hand...Turley came on...which i;d never heard before until in this forum a few months back...and it dragged me back into the room for me last dance!!!!x Although I was busy....and was reserving my energy for the next days Dayer too.....to be very honest.....nothing else made me dance!!x Indeed I would go as far as this.......the DJ's tunes playing n the background of the DVD 10 years ago.....being played by some of those who DJ'd this weekend....pi**ed all over the 'quality' as to what was spun Saturday!! During my 4 hours....so 'obvious' a tune was played one after the other...it;'s a good job the majority where 'on it'...as discussed with Tim the Manager this morning....otherwise...the tunes wouldn't have inspired alone....methinks!x Yes top 500 is the theme.....but to hear the same 50 outta them....pop end too...was disappointing. I heard over 250 tunes on Sunday at the dayer....spun by perhaps 10 + DJ's....and many 'classics'/Oldies among them which packed the floor. Not once did I hear anything from those top 50 obvious...all day!! It is all I heard....and am sad to have to report that. There is no excuse when having an 'easy' appreciative crowd....chomping at the bit for any tune to give it some too...to play just 'any' tune. No real adventure....and as said....Turley....was it for me....the only track i had never heard 'live' or danced too in me life....in 4 hours!!x The DJ's can do better.....listen to yourselves on the DVD 10 years ago......i;m sorry to have dropped in from a time warp or summink....but either you can't be ar*ed....or....realised you didn't need to 'entertain'? Anyone could have turned up and had it away so to speak....but to inspire??? Different thing...and I didn't see anyone do that during my time there......and hoped for better really...X

 

So...people wise....from Kev...to behind the scene folk...and Soulies....and indeed Ginger..Dave Evison and the few DJ's I spoke with.....from a social perspective......BRILLIANT and thank you all for the welcome back as such!x My comments ain;t personal...strictly business....as Gordon would like it...!!x Business done...which included 62 copy's of the DVD among it all...Pete sorted that!!x His opinion??? He heard more ';quality' in the half hour in the little room than he did in the main room in 4 hours......I am the messenger!x ....but after all we have said...I would recommend going.....and sincerely hope it is there for many a year to come!x I mingled among some of the new kids...and watched their approach....and it is to be encouraged....and supported. They added a sparkle to the occasion and indeed can dance....those not in platforms anyway!!x Great to see...and the dress code too.....I saw a pair of 6 buttoned/3 flap waisters on a young un.....and was dead jel......always wanted a pair....and they looked good!x I waddled off...silly prat in a hat back to the car happily reminiscing about me childhood in me head....which is what Kings Hall seems to be about....so on that basis Kev.....JOB DONE....for me!!!x THANK YOU!!x

 

LUV

SOOTY

X

 

I have to go out for the day.....and will add further with pics the next 'chapter'....featuring lots of happenings on Sunday at a Dayer!!x Including me telling Yvonne Renee to shut up and be looked after....she pi**ed herself on the phone and said she's willing to be told and pampered....love it!!x

 

I did her...just like she did me...in the 90's....awesome!!!x

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...I also was done in by another Lady this weekend.....and listened to her 'story'...of you all.....and she has one....which perhaps none of you have heard....or considered!!x Mrs Smith.....and thanx to Maslar...for the inspiration!x I will reveal all her opinions on it all too....this evening!!x

 

 

X

yes sooty,been a kings hall anthem spin of mine for 8 years now ,allways pleases the dancers and filmakers to

best

Mick H

[Pete S]

yes sooty,been a kings hall anthem spin of mine for 8 years now ,allways pleases the dancers and filmakers to

best

Mick H

 

Richard Searling, Wigan, July 77, played it 2 weeks running then never played it again.  "This one's going to take over where Jimmie Raye left off" he announces....

[Alison H]

As I've said before Sooty, carry on doing what you're doing fella

 

I enjoy reading your posts (even though they make me bog eyed sometimes  .... ok, bog eyed all the time    )

 

People don't have to read your threads, and there is a good tool whereby people can select not to see ANY of your posts, but I don't think many will select that option, as despite all the constant putting down of you & your posts (which I know you can handle) it does keep things interesting, and  people will still want to have their say  , like Pete S has commented you are like a breath a fresh air on here ..... & it's fun to see that some people can't handle it 

 

Good luck to you & all the others involved with your Charity Soul Work, & to those who aren't interested in this .............. go read another thread      

[toc]

Well said Alison , life can be a bit shit at times and interesting peeps and stories and good doing IS a breath of fresh air nowadays , if u want some HISTORY about US then read the posts from aug 26 th at the kellingley soul club in knottingley , that was our very first " charity soul event " there's posts about why , wot , where , who etc and the comments from peeps who attended , I for one ain't blowing my own trumpet as its a team thing , it's just that it was my idea , it's me who lost a very close soul friend that never stood a chance , and off I went to organise these good peeps to wots happening now , so now this will be my last post about us , we will just continue do ing as we are doing , if u do hear about us , Banbury Internet radio , soul net radio , pure rhythm radio , hopefully our own " charity soul Internet radio " a bit further down the line , then u will know u read a post about us from sootys adventures , he he all the best one and all , Tara

[Alison H]

Well said Alison , life can be a bit shit at times and interesting peeps and stories and good doing IS a breath of fresh air nowadays , if u want some HISTORY about US then read the posts from aug 26 th at the kellingley soul club in knottingley , that was our very first " charity soul event " there's posts about why , wot , where , who etc and the comments from peeps who attended , I for one ain't blowing my own trumpet as its a team thing , it's just that it was my idea , it's me who lost a very close soul friend that never stood a chance , and off I went to organise these good peeps to wots happening now , so now this will be my last post about us , we will just continue do ing as we are doing , if u do hear about us , Banbury Internet radio , soul net radio , pure rhythm radio , hopefully our own " charity soul Internet radio " a bit further down the line , then u will know u read a post about us from sootys adventures , he he all the best one and all , Tara

 

 

Hi Toc

 

I don't need "History" or "Proof" about you or Sooty, no one has the right to demand this of you (unless they're donating a fair chunk of money maybe), it's foolish twaddle, soul credentials ffs     

 

Good luck with it all 

 

Ali x

[toc]

Sorry Alison , Winnie mentioned about I only put it in one paragraph about I and we , ?? I didn't mean u , I get the jist about certain posts on ere and just don't get it , knocking peeps for wot ?? Get a life guys , merry x mas , toc

[Len]

yes sooty,been a kings hall anthem spin of mine for 8 years now ,allways pleases the dancers and filmakers to

best

Mick H

 

......I'm surprised, and disappointed in you Mick  

 

All the best,

 

Len  

 

P.s - Hi Sooty btw......Good god man - 'Head on the block' or what!  

Edited December 17, 2013 by LEN

[Winnie :-)]

Sorry Alison , Winnie mentioned about I only put it in one paragraph about I and we , ?? I didn't mean u , I get the jist about certain posts on ere and just don't get it , knocking peeps for wot ?? Get a life guys , merry x mas , toc

I don't think you do get it Toc, I was commending you for only putting up one paragraph and getting your point across. And just to make it clear (again) I'm not knocking Sooty or you for your endeavours, all I basically said was that Sooty tends to go on a bit, and always includes something about his travels/business/meeting famous people etc etc. If the main point of this thread is charity, then to me thats what's best focused on. 

[Alison H]

Sorry Alison , Winnie mentioned about I only put it in one paragraph about I and we , ?? I didn't mean u , I get the jist about certain posts on ere and just don't get it , knocking peeps for wot ?? Get a life guys , merry x mas , toc

Hey Toc

I wasn't having a go at you. I've seen many posts on here whereby others think they have the right to demand people's soul credentials before they are given a seal of approval & that's what I was getting at.

Sorry for not making myself clear, my comment was not aimed at you.

Once again, Good Luck with it all & Merry Christmas to you

Ali x

Edited December 17, 2013 by Alison H