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Pete S
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I'd love to know why there is a gold vinyl of The Professionals.  Was it to get it noticed?

boba
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lots of times colored vinyl was actually done by pressing plant employees. Tefteller had this score where he went to the house of some dude who worked at a pressing plant and he had a completely uniqu

MrsWoodsrules
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Never had much on colour vinyl, one I can remember I had is a Ral Donner disk. Other than that, coloured vinyl was really out of the norm, but you wouldn't come across many in the bar at Wigan i

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Never had much on colour vinyl, one I can remember I had is a Ral Donner disk.

Other than that, coloured vinyl was really out of the norm, but you wouldn't come across many in the bar at Wigan in my time, first I ever really seen was with the Punk Rock scene made them popular.

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Never had much on colour vinyl, one I can remember I had is a Ral Donner disk.

Other than that, coloured vinyl was really out of the norm, but you wouldn't come across many in the bar at Wigan in my time, first I ever really seen was with the Punk Rock scene made them popular.

You see a lot of doowop 45 on coloured vinyl my wife has a lot I think she has a Pete Cooke & Baby Dolls on blue or white vinyl amongst others.

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You see a lot of doowop 45 on coloured vinyl my wife has a lot I think she has a Pete Cooke & Baby Dolls on blue or white vinyl amongst others.

That Pete Cooke thing on blue vinyl is from 63/4.

Pete S Veteran

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There's a Tonnettes on red vinyl, all those Bobby Patterson things on yellow vinyl, various coloured vinyl 60's bootlegs from P.A. including The Volumes, Blues Busters on red vinyl though thats Jamaican I think...

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You see a lot of doowop 45 on coloured vinyl my wife has a lot I think she has a Pete Cooke & Baby Dolls on blue or white vinyl amongst others.

 

Yeah, I know they are plenty of northern out there on colour Phil, just wasn't that common, I just didn't see em much.

Although, if I remember correctly, didn't some of the Casino Classic/Grapevine stuff come on colour vinyl too?

But was generally referring to U.S. originals.

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You see a lot of doowop 45 on coloured vinyl my wife has a lot I think she has a Pete Cooke & Baby Dolls on blue or white vinyl amongst others.

Yes, when I collected the Logo label I had that one too, light blue non see through vinyl. It looked good! I had at one point the Monoraxs on Astra in I think four diffetent colours! Think I kept the red one. Loads of coloured labels esp in the group and doo wop section of my collection left :)

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There's a Tonnettes on red vinyl, all those Bobby Patterson things on yellow vinyl, various coloured vinyl 60's bootlegs from P.A. including The Volumes, Blues Busters on red vinyl though thats Jamaican I think...

i no its not soul but ive put a diana dors red vinyl for sale on ebay and its  from 1960.

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Don't see what all the fuss is about.

 

Records should be black, end of. Coloured vinyl should be strictly reserved for all them shite pop tunes from the 70's that came out on coloured vinyl.

 

It's much harder to check condition on anything other than black as well.

In my experiance, coloured vinyl wear out after about 10 plays, I had the Kent lp "For Dancers Only" on red vinyl and completely wore it out,

What's the point of that? frame it and put it on the wall????

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lots of times colored vinyl was actually done by pressing plant employees. Tefteller had this score where he went to the house of some dude who worked at a pressing plant and he had a completely unique collection of multicolor splattered vinyl of rare records. Tefteller at least had a website with them pictured, don't know if it's still up.

 

even when it wasn't a rogue employee, it seems like certain plants tended to do them. there might have been something like the plant owner asking the label owner if they wanted to press a few up on colored vinyl as some sort of promotion.

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Pete's right, coloured vinyl records have existed for a hundred years, more for show than for sound quality.

 

Raw vinyl is actually transparent.

It becomes black after carbon black powder is added to the mixture to get a smoother blend of ingredients and it also happens to reduce the surface noise of the material. Carbon black is better for this because it's non-reflective, that's why records are usually black - or at least a carbon grey kind of colour.

Those Pye pressings from the 1970s looked red and a bit transparent when held up to the light so I assume that's because of another ingredient.

If coloured powders were used instead of carbon black it would result in higher surface noise, that's why most coloured vinyl records don't sound as good. I assume it also means the mixture isn't as smooth or consistent.

 

Paul

P.S.  I've heard it said that transparent vinyl is also better quality than coloured vinyl but I'm not sure why because it wouldn't be a smooth enough material unless some another process is involved.

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coloured vinyl records have existed for a hundred years, more for show than for sound quality

Red vinyl was used quite a bit in Japan by Toshiba (Stateside, Liberty, Capitol etc.)...I think they look (and sound) fabulous...I believe when used it was for the first pressing run, but doesn't always hold true.

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It did, way before the 60's, remember those kiddies records in multicoloured vinyl, nursery rhymes etc

 Very true, Pete.

 

In fact it's worth remembering that in 1949 when RCA Victor introduced the 45 RPM single, coloured vinyl was planned as the STANDARD system.  They issued their first series of releases on different coloured vinyl according to the category:

 

Pop - black

Classical - red

'Light Classics' - midnight blue

Country/Western - green

Children's - yellow

'International' - sky blue

Rhythm & Blues - 'cerise' (though often described as 'orange')

 

Have a look at the first 45 (Arthur Big Boy Crudup) on Popsike and you'll see in action. 

 

All the best,

 

Nick


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At the risk of turning this into a coloured vinyl thread - has anyone mentioned the Ted Taylor and Artistics Okeh releases on purple wax?

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

edit - this was split from another thread. That's what the first part of my sentence refers to. Just don't want to appear more of a dimwit than usual.

Thank you.

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Got  a novelty appeal to them.I suppose that was the objective from a selling point.I would have avoided coloured vinyl bitd because they didn't look kosher.

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I have a record on the lemon label(not soul so its not a lemon soul)and yes the vinyl is lemon (lol)

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Gordy/Tamla/Motown white labels look nice on red wax & they sound OK.  I think it was often done by various labels as a straight forward marketing ploy to make the record stand out.  There's a few on the Texas Dynamic, Jox and Cobra labels on red wax.  Another one, Swiss Movement on gold

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I'd love to know why there is a gold vinyl of The Professionals.  Was it to get it noticed?

 

 

i had a copy of willie rosario - wobbly blues on bmc in the 80s on red vinyl

 

it came via martin coppel via my mate john evans who was staying with him at the time

 

it was totally original

 

its the only boogaloo 45 i have ever had on mad coloured vinyl

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del satins green vinyl.....i didnt buy Dave A's  yellow vinyl......my theory is that Soussan distributed these to UK DJs to promote the boot?

Ha! I have a red one! :g:

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In fact it's worth remembering that in 1949 when RCA Victor introduced the 45 RPM single, coloured vinyl was planned as the STANDARD system.  They issued their first series of releases on different coloured vinyl according to the category:

 

 

'International' - sky blue

 

 

True...here's one from the Latin shelf...yes my name is David and I collect Latin records :shhh:

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Got the purple Okehs and the Jetstream yellows has anyone else Jetstreams changed colour?

 

And there are quie a few that are purple at light too if you know what I mean?

 

Have some yellow JetStreams with brown bleeding in...and indeed some more brown with yellow bleeding through!

 

Quite a few mid-6Ts NYC discs from Big Top, Diamond etc are brown when held up to a bright light.

 

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Pete's right, coloured vinyl records have existed for a hundred years, more for show than for sound quality.

 

Raw vinyl is actually transparent.

It becomes black after carbon black powder is added to the mixture to get a smoother blend of ingredients and it also happens to reduce the surface noise of the material. Carbon black is better for this because it's non-reflective, that's why records are usually black - or at least a carbon grey kind of colour.

Those Pye pressings from the 1970s looked red and a bit transparent when held up to the light so I assume that's because of another ingredient.

If coloured powders were used instead of carbon black it would result in higher surface noise, that's why most coloured vinyl records don't sound as good. I assume it also means the mixture isn't as smooth or consistent.

 

Paul

P.S.  I've heard it said that transparent vinyl is also better quality than coloured vinyl but I'm not sure why because it wouldn't be a smooth enough material unless some another process is involved.

 

Really cool information paul

Love to learn about things like that

 

Aaron

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