Ted Massey Posted November 21, 2013 Share Posted November 21, 2013 https://www.discogs.com/Margaret-Little-Love-Finds-A-Way-I-Need-Some-Loving/release/4135339https://www.popsike.com/Margaret-Little-northern-soul-45-on-Genebro-Love-Finds-A-Way-CRACKED-listen/150967913455.htmlNow we know who bought it possibly Link to comment Social source share More sharing options...
Raremusicdirect Posted November 21, 2013 Share Posted November 21, 2013 MINT Link to comment Social source share More sharing options...
Pete S Posted November 21, 2013 Share Posted November 21, 2013 I've reported this to Discogs. or at least I've raised it in the forum there. Link to comment Social source share More sharing options...
Lionelonthevinyl Posted November 21, 2013 Share Posted November 21, 2013 Good god....yeah you would be a little miffed if you bought that without knowing....Rob Link to comment Social source share More sharing options...
Premium Stuff Posted November 21, 2013 Share Posted November 21, 2013 Don't understand what the issue is, or why we can work out who bought it from this Link to comment Social source share More sharing options...
Steve G Posted November 21, 2013 Share Posted November 21, 2013 What's going on here lads? Link to comment Social source share More sharing options...
Alan T Posted November 21, 2013 Share Posted November 21, 2013 Obviously out to rip somebody off. He only registered on the site last week. Look at the other records he's hoping someone will buy. Stay well clear. https://www.discogs.com/seller/oslorecords Link to comment Social source share More sharing options...
Pete S Posted November 21, 2013 Share Posted November 21, 2013 Yeah they are defending him on the forum, if anyone wants to join in, please do https://www.discogs.com/forum/thread/528e24034322466afea25729?page=1#528e2ba343224676e7a25728 Link to comment Social source share More sharing options...
Premium Stuff Posted November 21, 2013 Share Posted November 21, 2013 Yes, now I see both points. This is the link that shows it is actually for sale. Think Ted's link was just in the discogs bit of discogs. The link below is marketplace. https://www.discogs.com/sell/list?release_id=4135339&ev=rb Cheers Richard Link to comment Social source share More sharing options...
Garethx Posted November 21, 2013 Share Posted November 21, 2013 One thing I would say is that the way Discogs lists records is different to other sales sites. The picture of the 45 is obviously taken from the completed popsike listing of the cracked/chipped 45 last year. That doesn't mean to say that's the copy the seller is offering. If you look up a listing for any relatively common record you'll see one scan covering all the copies for sale, regardless of condition. Link to comment Social source share More sharing options...
Jnixon Posted November 21, 2013 Share Posted November 21, 2013 did the seller add the release page info? Link to comment Social source share More sharing options...
Pete S Posted November 21, 2013 Share Posted November 21, 2013 OK what they say is that the picture is generic and not the copy he has for sale - he says he has a mint one by the way. He also has Professionals, Robert Tanner, Bill Dennis, ray Agee, all mint. LIKE HELL HE DOES! 1 Link to comment Social source share More sharing options...
Pete S Posted November 21, 2013 Share Posted November 21, 2013 If anyone else on here is also on Discogs, please get on there and tell them how unlikely it is for this clown to have one of these records let alone all of them at the same time! Not only that - no ratings as a buyer or seller! Link to comment Social source share More sharing options...
Kjw Posted November 21, 2013 Share Posted November 21, 2013 One thing I would say is that the way Discogs lists records is different to other sales sites. The picture of the 45 is obviously taken from the completed popsike listing of the cracked/chipped 45 last year. That doesn't mean to say that's the copy the seller is offering. If you look up a listing for any relatively common record you'll see one scan covering all the copies for sale, regardless of condition. That's right - whoever enters a record onto Discogs as a new listing adds the scan of the label which can come from anywhere. It can be an actual scan of their own copy or they can just pull any image off the internet. Once the record is on Discogs other people can go in and edit the listing ie; add writer credits, change the label scan etc Link to comment Social source share More sharing options...
Pete S Posted November 21, 2013 Share Posted November 21, 2013 Cheers Ian, or whoever posted Link to comment Social source share More sharing options...
Prophonics 2029 Posted November 21, 2013 Share Posted November 21, 2013 Ray Agee's quiet cheep as Ray Agee's go!! shhhhh. 1 Link to comment Social source share More sharing options...
Prophonics 2029 Posted November 21, 2013 Share Posted November 21, 2013 I WONDER IF HE HAS FIXED MARGARET LITTLE ? Freckin jeezass. Link to comment Social source share More sharing options...
Raremusicdirect Posted November 21, 2013 Share Posted November 21, 2013 "The damage must have occurred in transit" ........................ Link to comment Social source share More sharing options...
Orotava Posted November 21, 2013 Share Posted November 21, 2013 Ted, I`m disappointed in your spelling of disappointed 2 Link to comment Social source share More sharing options...
Ian Dewhirst Posted November 21, 2013 Share Posted November 21, 2013 Cheers Ian, or whoever posted Yep, 'twas me. I saw this on Discogs over the weekend and thought exactly what you thought! Ian D Link to comment Social source share More sharing options...
Premium Stuff Posted November 21, 2013 Share Posted November 21, 2013 Ted, I`m disappointed in your spelling of disappointed Good spot mate! Richard 1 Link to comment Social source share More sharing options...
Raresoul45s Posted November 21, 2013 Share Posted November 21, 2013 Yes but the label says Detroit Stars or it did earlier, so either he's supply that original copy with the bite out of it along with a M copy of DS reissue boot? that's how I see it. Cheers Darren Link to comment Social source share More sharing options...
Raremusicdirect Posted November 21, 2013 Share Posted November 21, 2013 Yes but the label says Detroit Stars or it did earlier, so either he's supply that original copy with the bite out of it along with a M copy of DS reissue boot? that's how I see it. Cheers Darren And the Buyer can play it out on the basis he has an original ? Link to comment Social source share More sharing options...
Pete S Posted November 21, 2013 Share Posted November 21, 2013 Yes but the label says Detroit Stars or it did earlier, so either he's supply that original copy with the bite out of it along with a M copy of DS reissue boot? that's how I see it. Cheers Darren No it doesn't Darren. It says "other versions of this title for sale" and thats where it lists the Detroit Stars one Link to comment Social source share More sharing options...
Glynthornhill Posted November 21, 2013 Share Posted November 21, 2013 If someone buys it he will probably ' cancel ' the transaction - Item no longer available is an easy option to use in Discogs compared to Ebay. Interesting he is located in Italy - one of four countries I refuse to mail to on Ebay due to 'postal ' mishaps on regular basis in that part of the world. Surely they can't all go missing but over a year had in excess of ten ' not turn up ' hmmmmm Link to comment Social source share More sharing options...
Raresoul45s Posted November 21, 2013 Share Posted November 21, 2013 So it does Pete, Cheers Darren Link to comment Social source share More sharing options...
Guest julesp1905 Posted November 21, 2013 Share Posted November 21, 2013 There was the famous story of a fella that listed just about every rare Jazz Record on ebay, the fraud totalled $50,000. with stuff like rare northern and some of the top stones rarities, looks like this could be another con merchant Link to comment Social source share More sharing options...
Guest julesp1905 Posted November 21, 2013 Share Posted November 21, 2013 https://jazzcollector.com/jazz-vinyl/buyers-file-30000-in-fraud-claims-vs-nautiluso/#more-2364 Link to comment Social source share More sharing options...
Guest Bearsy Posted November 21, 2013 Share Posted November 21, 2013 He seems to have a few rare tunes well under the going rate he could get for them anywhere else Link to comment Social source share More sharing options...
Pete S Posted November 21, 2013 Share Posted November 21, 2013 He seems to have a few rare tunes well under the going rate he could get for them anywhere else Yeah he's pretending he has Link to comment Social source share More sharing options...
Soulfuljules Posted November 22, 2013 Share Posted November 22, 2013 If someone buys it he will probably ' cancel ' the transaction - Item no longer available is an easy option to use in Discogs compared to Ebay. Interesting he is located in Italy - one of four countries I refuse to mail to on Ebay due to 'postal ' mishaps on regular basis in that part of the world. Surely they can't all go missing but over a year had in excess of ten ' not turn up ' hmmmmm Will you please avoid generalisations? There are several honest collectors in Italy, myself included. I have been buying recs on here since 2005 (been on ebay since 2001). Bought several dozens of tunes from 5£ to 1500£, not a single problem, apart from a couple of hassles... Did you really send 10 records to italy in one year and they all went missing? Will you please specify to whom? As a "member" of a small community, i am sure my other fellow collectors would like to know who claims that parcels were not delievered. As to this seller, i have just contacted him regarding a record, will see what his reply is and where he is actaully based. Giulio 3 Link to comment Social source share More sharing options...
paultp Posted November 22, 2013 Share Posted November 22, 2013 Plenty of US sellers won't post to Italy or France because of the numbers that don't turn up. Pretty sure it has been raised here before and is common knowledge. I've sold a few records to Italy but I do tend to try and find out if people are known to soulies over there before sending, and will only send fully insured. Link to comment Social source share More sharing options...
Soulfuljules Posted November 22, 2013 Share Posted November 22, 2013 (edited) Yes you are right. However, it seems to me that a lot of people tend to generalise. As you say, this thing has been raised before, yet no actual names were named, just the usual "many won't post to Italy". So what? Some sellers on here overgrade records, does this mean that all uk dealers or private sellers overgrade their records? As to the actual post i was commenting, "10+ parcels 'lost' in a year?" Each to their own but if it was me, after the 2nd or 3rd i would make registered delivery mandatory, wouldn't probably wait until 10+ go missing. If 1 single name was named, at least we would know whom not to deal with. Edited November 22, 2013 by soulfuljules 2 Link to comment Social source share More sharing options...
Soulfuljules Posted November 22, 2013 Share Posted November 22, 2013 Back to the actual topic. Seller 's account has been suspended as it is suspected of being fraudulent. Link to comment Social source share More sharing options...
Pete S Posted November 22, 2013 Share Posted November 22, 2013 Back to the actual topic. Seller 's account has been suspended as it is suspected of being fraudulent. Good. 1 Link to comment Social source share More sharing options...
Jayboy Posted November 23, 2013 Share Posted November 23, 2013 Good. Margeret Little Is not for me Du tout Only rare not quality Link to comment Social source share More sharing options...
Dave Pinch Posted November 23, 2013 Share Posted November 23, 2013 (edited) edited yes Edited November 23, 2013 by dave pinch Link to comment Social source share More sharing options...
Glynthornhill Posted November 24, 2013 Share Posted November 24, 2013 Yes you are right. However, it seems to me that a lot of people tend to generalise. As you say, this thing has been raised before, yet no actual names were named, just the usual "many won't post to Italy". So what? Some sellers on here overgrade records, does this mean that all uk dealers or private sellers overgrade their records? As to the actual post i was commenting, "10+ parcels 'lost' in a year?" Each to their own but if it was me, after the 2nd or 3rd i would make registered delivery mandatory, wouldn't probably wait until 10+ go missing. If 1 single name was named, at least we would know whom not to deal with. 1.After the first .[ missing }. they were all sent internationally signed for to Italy 2. Makes no difference whatsoever in Italy's or other postal systems you are not covered immediately it leaves country of origin 3. Why should I name and shame the buyers ?- they were all blocked from purchasing in future , and otherEbay dealers were informed of their dubious claims. 4, Before people decide to ' like ' the post they should be in possession of the full story. 5. I never generalised just said Italy is not a country I post to did .not call anyone in Italy just the postal service that has an unusual high amount of missing parcels !!!!! Link to comment Social source share More sharing options...
SHEFFSOUL Posted November 24, 2013 Share Posted November 24, 2013 1.After the first .[ missing }. they were all sent internationally signed for to Italy 2. Makes no difference whatsoever in Italy's or other postal systems you are not covered immediately it leaves country of origin 3. Why should I name and shame the buyers ?- they were all blocked from purchasing in future , and otherEbay dealers were informed of their dubious claims. 4, Before people decide to ' like ' the post they should be in possession of the full story. 5. I never generalised just said Italy is not a country I post to did .not call anyone in Italy just the postal service that has an unusual high amount of missing parcels !!!!! yep..i found that out to my cost..and its not just records.. Link to comment Social source share More sharing options...
boba Posted November 26, 2013 Share Posted November 26, 2013 One of the main rules in discogs is that you have to have the record in your hand, I think it's supposed to be the scan of that record. I sent a large folder of records I had scanned to someone who works there who also likes to enter in data and he said he couldn't enter them because he wasn't physically holding them. So even if the dude has a copy for sale, I think you're technically not supposed to take the scan from popsike or wherever. not saying it's a good rule, but apparently it's a big rule there. Link to comment Social source share More sharing options...
Northern Soul Uk Posted November 28, 2013 Share Posted November 28, 2013 (edited) Just followed the original link for the seller and he/she has now nothing for sale. Sorry just read earlier post. Edited November 28, 2013 by Northern Soul UK Link to comment Social source share More sharing options...
Chris O Posted November 28, 2013 Share Posted November 28, 2013 Just followed the original link for the seller and he/she has now nothing for sale. Sorry just read earlier post. Link to comment Social source share More sharing options...
Chris O Posted November 28, 2013 Share Posted November 28, 2013 I seen this listing a couple of weeks ago and am sure he listed his country as Switzerland, making me think he was one of those nice investment type bankers. W Link to comment Social source share More sharing options...
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