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  So you throw that sort of sum around on a record without knowing what it is? Perish the thought you might not actually like the record......or is the only thing that matters that it's a

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New Description boys and girls on JM web site, all will be revealed Friday 29/11 - looks like Betty Boo or Professionals?

 

 

Especially for those dedicated global Northern Soul collectors who seek the ultimate rarities, coupled with unrivaled reputation and desirability.

On Friday 29/11/13

Will be presenting what we consider as the rarest The world’s RARESTNorthern Soul Classic ORIGINAL having been a ONE OF A KIND 45 for near 4 decades.

Totally and never having never been for sale on the worldwide web.

It is of course a most fabulous Northern soul double-sider in a unique format.

ending 18th. December in time for your best Christmas ever, for those of you serious about owning the world’s most challenging vinyl rarities.

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New Description boys and girls on JM web site, all will be revealed Friday 29/11 - looks like Betty Boo or Professionals?

 

 

Especially for those dedicated global Northern Soul collectors who seek the ultimate rarities, coupled with unrivaled reputation and desirability.

On Friday 29/11/13

Will be presenting what we consider as the rarest The world’s RARESTNorthern Soul Classic ORIGINAL having been a ONE OF A KIND 45 for near 4 decades.

Totally and never having never been for sale on the worldwide web.

It is of course a most fabulous Northern soul double-sider in a unique format.

ending 18th. December in time for your best Christmas ever, for those of you serious about owning the world’s most challenging vinyl rarities.

 

Why Betty Boo, no one of a kind release for it, not a double sider...

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When will we know? Wednesday?

 

Peter

 

We might as well wait until xmas now.

Manship could sell advent calendars and we could open a little window every morning, the last window would reveal the identity of the record.

But I suppose some people would cheat and open the last window first.

:wink: 

 

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I know thatbut all im saying is how do you define classic, would it be the early days or a modern day classic?

But it's a classic that's been 'one of a kind for near 40 years' Chalky, so it's hardly going to be a modern day classic is it.

 

Professionals on coloured vinyl I reckon.

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Just put the thing up, I can't stand all this faffing around, trying to create a buzz around a 45,if its that rare it will sell itself, its unnecessary.

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New Description boys and girls on JM web site, all will be revealed Friday 29/11 - looks like Betty Boo or Professionals?

 

 

Especially for those dedicated global Northern Soul collectors who seek the ultimate rarities, coupled with unrivaled reputation and desirability.

On Friday 29/11/13

Will be presenting what we consider as the rarest The world’s RARESTNorthern Soul Classic ORIGINAL having been a ONE OF A KIND 45 for near 4 decades.

Totally and never having never been for sale on the worldwide web.

It is of course a most fabulous Northern soul double-sider in a unique format.

ending 18th. December in time for your best Christmas ever, for those of you serious about owning the world’s most challenging vinyl rarities.

 

So it's already a classic, or two classics back to back, known since 1973 or before, and the format is "unique" so it must be a 45 containing two tracks which became popular via another format, such as LP tracks or acetates or whatever.

A "unique format" can't mean something on a different label or a promo copy so we should be thinking about LP tracks...

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So it's already a classic, or two classics back to back, known since 1973 or before, and the format is "unique" so it must be a 45 containing two tracks which became popular via another format, such as LP tracks or acetates or whatever.

A "unique format" can't mean something on a different label or a promo copy so we should be thinking about LP tracks...

:g:

 

I disagree, like someone said Salvadors WD, that is a unique format as it's never been found on a promo before

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..and "nearly four decades" means almost forty years so I think we're looking at early 1974 at the earliest so I reckon it was something which was big at the Mecca or the Casino.

We're getting closer now.

Think of two tracks that went big at that time which weren't issued on 45s.

 

 

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..and "nearly four decades" means almost forty years so I think we're looking at early 1974 at the earliest so I reckon it was something which was big at the Mecca or the Casino.

We're getting closer now.

Think of two tracks that went big at that time which weren't issued on 45s.

 

I can, but they aren't going to be hotly collected: AOT Rhino and Six O Clock  :lol:

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Why Betty Boo, no one of a kind release for it, not a double sider...

 

Just cos someone else mentioned it I thought it was tape only, but memory fades......!

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..and "nearly four decades" means almost forty years so I think we're looking at early 1974 at the earliest so I reckon it was something which was big at the Mecca or the Casino.

We're getting closer now.

Think of two tracks that went big at that time which weren't issued on 45s.

The Outsiders "Lonely Man"

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I disagree, like someone said Salvadors WD, that is a unique format as it's never been found on a promo before

 

Possibly Pete but if Manship is being precise format really means the product, not a label variation or whatever. I hope his description isn't leading us up the wrong path.

 

Think of two tracks from circa 74 which weren't on a 45. And too early for a 12" so it has to be LP tracks or something only known via acetates. But there are two classics back to back so it shouldn't be too difficult.... but I'm stuck!

 

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Now the Professionals "Thats Why I Love You", I have checked JM Millionaires guide and the picture on the copy in there is different to one on Discogs. The Discogs one has a marked / scuffed label. The one in JM guide does not. Does that mean there are tow copies at least?

 

Disccogs one is below

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I can, but they aren't going to be hotly collected: AOT Rhino and Six O Clock  :lol:

 

Ha ha, I actually thought of them for a moment, with 'Bubblegum Breakthrough' on the flip.

But you;'re right, he wouldn't call them "classics" I don't think.

'Sweet Sherry' would fit the bill but I'm sure it went big before 74.

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I understand it's "The Wigan Joker" by the All Night Band.....

 

Steve, that wasn't really a "classic", it just had a cult following with connoisseurs  :wink:

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Ok another wild punt and shoot me down. The Magicians "Just A Little Faith and Understanding" / The Tandels "Is it Love Baby" 

 

Two of the vocals to Double Cookin' on a 10" Acetate

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Ok another wild punt and shoot me down. The Magicians "Just A Little Faith and Understanding" / The Tandels "Is it Love Baby" 

 

Two of the vocals to Double Cookin' on a 10" Acetate

Not 4 decades for that.

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well its definately a record that has never been seen on vinyl before! so forget proffessionals..jnr mccants..etc...it will defo be something that is very well known to everybody that we have only heard on a cd or reissue from a tape or acetate from the vaults!

 

my money is on melba moore-magic touch with another cracking b side!

 

or

 

the originals-baby have mercy/suspicion

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Ok another wild punt and shoot me down. The Magicians "Just A Little Faith and Understanding" / The Tandels "Is it Love Baby" 

 

Two of the vocals to Double Cookin' on a 10" Acetate

 

 

Not 4 decades for that.

 

And John did say it was a 45.

Something like 'Baby Hit And Run' or 'Lend A Hand' would almost fit the bill (big in 73 or 74 I think) if a US test press or promo 45 has been found but it would need to be two classics back to back.

 

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What about The Yum Yums or The Anderson Bros.issues. Never seen an Andersons but is rumored , have seen one Yum Yums on ebay about two years ago.

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What about The Yum Yums or The Anderson Bros.issues. Never seen an Andersons but is rumored , have seen one Yum Yums on ebay about two years ago.

 

Yum Yums, couple of issues but still not a big money record in the scheme of things - 2K?

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But it's a classic that's been 'one of a kind for near 40 years' Chalky, so it's hardly going to be a modern day classic is it.

Professionals on coloured vinyl I reckon.

I was replying before I'd seen the updated description.

The gold vinyl Professionals hasn't been around for 40 years has it?

The same for the likes of Suspicion, Magic Touch, neither have they existed as a proper release.

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If John is to be taken at his word - "almost four decades" - it has to be something which surfaced after late 1973 (so probably 1974 or 1975) so we should focus on the Mecca and Casino period.

And if the newly discovered 45 is a "unique format" it must be tracks which were known via LP tracks or acetates ...or even early 12" singles.

And he did say TWO classics.

With all those clues it shouldn't be too hard to narrow it down.

So how come we're all stuck ?

 

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If John is to be taken at his word - "almost four decades" - it has to be something which surfaced after late 1973 (so probably 1974 or 1975) so we should focus on the Mecca and Casino period.

And if the newly discovered 45 is a "unique format" it must be tracks which were known via LP tracks or acetates ...or even early 12" singles.

And he did say TWO classics.

With all those clues it shouldn't be too hard to narrow it down.

So how come we're all stuck ?

 

:g:

 

Hi Paul,

 

I can't be sure he necessarily means format in this sense.  I still think he's talking about something like The Honey Bees 'Let's Get Back Together' on Wand as opposed to Garrison.

 

Nick

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I was wondering how everyone is stuck, my knowledge is very limited compared to most on here! I guess if someone does know they will keep quiet so they don't spoil JM's announcement on Friday.

 

if '73/'74 is the time frame, then LP tracks could be it. Giving up now, will just until Friday and look forward to the posts of "why didn't I think of that" or "is that all" or OMG holy shit where has that been!"

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John has already said "a one of a kind 45 for 4 decades". That to me says it isn't an acetate or lp track.

 

Hello Chalky, he said this 45 is unique on this "format" so that implies these tracks weren't previously known via a 45.

Unless John's words are misleading it suggests LP tracks, acetates or even 12" singles.

Someone should ask him if his description is precise.

EDIT: I just read his description again... he doesn't say this new discovery is a 45, he said it was a one of a kind 45 but his new discovery is a unique format ...so it could reverse what I said above, it could even mean he has a 12" of something known as a rare 45 - and that could imply early disco soul tracks.

It's not very clear.

 

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Wasn't there some LP track on Wyndcote or summat....maybe a 45 of that......can't remember it now without engaging my brain cells, and they are currently on a 'go slow' due to chocolate rationing :lol:

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Wasn't there some LP track on Wyndcote or summat....maybe a 45 of that......can't remember it now without engaging my brain cells, and they are currently on a 'go slow' due to chocolate rationing :lol:

 

'Jumping At The Go-Go', the only 7" was a Soussan bootleg.

 

He did the same with 'I'm Your Pimp'.

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Hello Chalky, he said this 45 is unique on this "format" so that implies these tracks weren't previously known via a 45.

Unless John's words are misleading it suggests LP tracks, acetates or even 12" singles.

Someone should ask him if his description is precise.EDIT: I just read his description again... he doesn't say this new discovery is a 45, he said it was a one of a kind 45 but his new discovery is a unique format ...so it could reverse what I said above, it could even mean he has a 12" of something known as a rare 45 - and that could imply early disco soul tracks.

It's not very clear.

The way i read it Paul is it is.an issue or demo of the previous one of a kind 45, depending on what the 45 is.

There cant be many 45's that is a double sider and has remained a one off since the first ten years of the scene.

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But the night begins to turn your head around, (doo bee doo bee doo bee),

And you know you're gonna lose more than you've found.

 

:lol:

c/w I'm Gonna Change

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What a downer (not really!), no Sandy Golden then!

 

On the basis of his new description my new bet then will be acetate...a acetate of a track that before was a one 45 only game. So which big classics from the early-mid seventies are one copy only still ? ? ?

 

Especially for those dedicated global Northern Soul collectors who seek the ultimate rarities, coupled with unrivaled reputation and desirability.

On Friday 29/11/13

Will be presenting what we consider as the rarest The world’s RARESTNorthern Soul Classic ORIGINAL having been a ONE OF A KIND 45 for near 4 decades.

Totally and never having never been for sale on the worldwide web.

It is of course a most fabulous Northern soul double-sider in a unique format.

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Come on John you've saddled this horse for too long jump on and ride it , if you leave it until Friday half the people would have comited suicide who were going to bid on it. Put us out of our misery ( there are two gold one's by the way )

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I don't think JM can reveal it yet because the record is not in his hands,  so he can't scan it etc. Just a thought....

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