Keep The Faith

[Winnie :-)]

It seems strange writing this, as I've just made a comment defending persons in baggy trousers and circle skirts, but here goes anyway.

 

The phrase makes me cringe, I won't pretend I've never said it, I'm sure I must have in the seventies, but I was a teenager. At that time I did think northern was a way of life and when I came back on the scene, I signed off with KTF occasionally, but now the phrase has transcended. It's not so much a phrase now as a catchphrase ''good game, good game'', and I really am starting to visualise Brucie using it in that dancing programme.

 

So when someone says 'Keep the Faith' to me, am I supposed to make the little fist salute and wobble it back and forth in a show of solidarity, I'm so confused. What do the rest of you think, am I the only one who finds it cringe-worthy, do any of you still use it yourselves? What does it actually mean.

 

Please advise, because I think it's time it went into room 101. Over to you

[grant]

KTF is old hat now Winnie

[Citizen P]

Did anybody actually  say it, without sounding a complete canute??  only ever saw it written down-Dave Godin of course.

 

"Right On"

"Keep the Faith, brother" 

makes much more sense coming from a Black Panther activist than from the gob of a spotty 17 year old yoof from the backstreets of Salford

[Sooty]

...good subject Winnie! Got me engaged whilst sitting here editing some bits for upload relevant to the show last night!x Since coming across it on me mates wooden Schweppes box in 1974 and falling for the music...I don't think i;ve ever said it!!! I only recall 2 lads actually saying it to me in me travels too! Now you've jogged me memory.....they were both super dancers.....and i mean super.....and both dressed 'traditionally' and were badged up!x Loved them both...and they followed me everywhere and still would! Perhaps it's a different 'faith' than what i;'ve achieved?! Never could dance like them ever....wouldn't attempt it! Perhaps it's an inner crowd that have reached that level of 'heaven' that some of us just pay homage too and admire?! I do anyway!x

Back to me editing.....nice 1!x

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LUV
SOOTY
X

[KevH]

Underground slogan for the now, commercial side of things.Nice to see on original badges,not to used in everyday conversation.

[Steve S 60]

Did anybody actually  say it, without sounding a complete canute??  only ever saw it written down-Dave Godin of course.

 

"Right On"

"Keep the Faith, brother" 

makes much more sense coming from a Black Panther activist than from the gob of a spotty 17 year old yoof from the backstreets of Salford

 

Richard Roundtree could pull it off.  Saw it written on plenty of patches and flyers, we tended to go more for the "cool" handshake.

[Little-stevie]

Room 101 for KTF....

[Stevie T]

only ever said it for affect , but that's goes for everything and or anything I say .  

[Phild]

I think we should all say it a whole lot more.

 

Makes us be able to identify with our soul brothers and sisters on this underground scene of ours.

 

It's the street level equivalent of a masons handshake.

 

Soul Power! Keep The Faith! Right On! Soul Brothers and Sisters

[Winnie :-)]

Underground slogan for the now, commercial side of things.Nice to see on original badges,not to used in everyday conversation.

Strangely enough Kev I was thinking exactly along those lines. It's an all encompassing slogan, straight from the pamphlet 'How to be a soulie' and now signifies (to me and obviously to you) a commercial interest 

[Winnie :-)]

Richard Roundtree could pull it off.  Saw it written on plenty of patches and flyers, we tended to go more for the "cool" handshake.

I like to 'fist bump' when I see a member of me fam innit, usually accompanied with ''gimme a spud''

[Stevie T]

fist bump , I tend to do that a lot just to make myself look like a proper knob head , works a treat .

 

though you said fist pump at first , which is a whole other story !

[Sooty]

I think we should all say it a whole lot more.

 

Makes us be able to identify with our soul brothers and sisters on this underground scene of ours.

 

It's the street level equivalent of a masons handshake.

 

Soul Power! Keep The Faith! Right On! Soul Brothers and Sisters

 

...I see all those terms of reference as relevant and proper Phild.....but i;ve only ever said 'Northern Soul' and used that reference when explaining myself or the scene to anyone....which for me...sez it all!x Proud of simply that....all encompassing...and as i've said...I think the show last night captured that 'Northern Soul'  spirit I choose to represent and purvey....'togetherness'....full stop...X

 

LUV

SOOTY

X

[Phild]

I like to 'fist bump' when I see a member of me fam innit, usually accompanied with ''gimme a spud''

 

I thought you'd written "gimme a spot"

 

Which is the phrase I have heard more than any other whenever I've promoted a do.

[Kegsy]

Don't remember using it or any body who really did.

 

     "Alright mate, got any gear ?"  was the usual greeting in my day

[Stevie T]

Don't remember using it or any body who really did.

 

     "Alright mate, got any gear ?"  was the usual greeting in my day

 

Ah ! "Do you want some gear" was said to my then wife as we stood in the queue at Wigan , she replied " no thanks I have brought my own clothes" I shit you not !

how we laughed .

[Guest Byrney]

I've not heard anyone of our lot in almost 30 years say KTF. It is term adopted by those who invariably didn't.

It's now a bolt on catch phrase the nostalgia sceners use to communicate they're really into northern.

[Citizen P]

Jeez, I 've just realised I've been reading it all wrong KTF,

thought it was Keep The Faith,

however, judging by the amount of Anniversary do's on it now means

 

Kop The Fiver...

[Simsy]

The phrase makes me cringe

 

Know The Feeling. 

 

Here's what Urban Dictionary has to say, # 6 made me grin https://www.urbandictionary.com/define.php?term=KTF

[Winnie :-)]

Looking at the comments, it appears Keep the Faith has become a very superficial term so perhaps ''Keep the Froth'' would be more suitable

[Daveyboy66]

SKF were the only initials I was bothered with

[Kegsy]

SKF were the only initials I was bothered with

 

 

You could even make a nice badge out of the canister tops.

[Harry Crosby]

Ah ! "Do you want some gear" was said to my then wife as we stood in the queue at Wigan , she replied " no thanks I have brought my own clothes" I shit you not !

how we laughed .

Did exactly the same in the big car park over the road on my first night down there

[Mark S]

  The european parliament has declared that we must now be harmonised

[Dave Moore]

Damn!  All these years I though it was "Keep The Change"!   ;-)

 

Regards,

 

Dave

[spike1]

Share the faith

Dont keep it ;)

Edited September 26, 2013 by spike1

[Haydn]

Keep the Fiat

One for the dyslexics, usually goes with other words like "viynl", "mowtown" and "rythm'.

Probably more lazy than dyslexia.

Edited September 26, 2013 by Haydn

[Ian Parker]

KFC

[Zed1]

Given some of our waistlines 'Eat The Cake' would be more apt!. 

[Frankie Crocker]

It seems strange writing this, as I've just made a comment defending persons in baggy trousers and circle skirts, but here goes anyway.

 

The phrase makes me cringe, I won't pretend I've never said it, I'm sure I must have in the seventies, but I was a teenager. At that time I did think northern was a way of life and when I came back on the scene, I signed off with KTF occasionally, but now the phrase has transcended. It's not so much a phrase now as a catchphrase ''good game, good game'', and I really am starting to visualise Brucie using it in that dancing programme.

 

So when someone says 'Keep the Faith' to me, am I supposed to make the little fist salute and wobble it back and forth in a show of solidarity, I'm so confused. What do the rest of you think, am I the only one who finds it cringe-worthy, do any of you still use it yourselves? What does it actually mean.

 

Please advise, because I think it's time it went into room 101. Over to you

Interestingpoint. Was it the maroon Wigan badge that spawned the KTF slogan? What inspired the badge designer to put KTF on the badge? Is the Citations 'To Win The Race' on Ballad anything to do with the catchphrase? Personally, I Don't Care [What The People Say]...

Keep On...

[SHEFFSOUL]

..i remember Keep the faith as a Dave Godin sign off..along with Right on now!..cant remember ever saying either..its begining had some association with the black power movement though probably only as a recognition of minority wishing to be recognised..KTF was more of a slogan that was writtten more than spoken..i had the single black glove and right on badges bitd but has no real interest in black power or the Panthers..more fashion than following..KTF faded as the northern soul whirlwind took force in late 73/74..i guess you could say Dave Godin was the Bruce Forsyth of northern soul..

[Tezza]

It is a little old hat and very cringe worthy. KTF - KOKO and being part of The Soul Family !! 16, 17 year old perhaps but at my age, a man in my position , really !!!

Like calling someone a Cool Cat or such.  Dont even thing you'd catch Gene Hunt saying it !!

[Quinvy]

My friends and I use the phrase all the time. It's called irony.

 

As a 17 year old I recall wearing a polo shirt with a Torch patch sewn on it, bearing the legend "Right On the Torch"

 

My sister, who was four years older and a hippy, used to say it in an ironic way all the time to show me up. Never worn a patch since.

[Tezza]

Keep on Truckin' - not heard that for a long while

[Roburt]

........... KTF ............

... YOU KNOW IT MAKES SENSE ......

[Reg]

Did exactly the same in the big car park over the road on my first night down there

A friend of mine,..no names mentioned got asked "where do you get your gear" at our first allniter.  She replied "ooh charity shops, Afflecks Palace the Cave"...we were very young.

[Linky]

I think it's about time we had a KTF smiley 

 

 

...along with a tongue-in-cheek smiley  this one doesn't quite do it.

Edited October 4, 2013 by barsoulona

[Len]

only ever said it for affect , but that's goes for everything and or anything I say .  

 

  FANTASTIC!

 

Len  

[Len]

It seems strange writing this, as I've just made a comment defending persons in baggy trousers and circle skirts, but here goes anyway.

 

The phrase makes me cringe, I won't pretend I've never said it, I'm sure I must have in the seventies, but I was a teenager. At that time I did think northern was a way of life and when I came back on the scene, I signed off with KTF occasionally, but now the phrase has transcended. It's not so much a phrase now as a catchphrase ''good game, good game'', and I really am starting to visualise Brucie using it in that dancing programme.

 

So when someone says 'Keep the Faith' to me, am I supposed to make the little fist salute and wobble it back and forth in a show of solidarity, I'm so confused. What do the rest of you think, am I the only one who finds it cringe-worthy, do any of you still use it yourselves? What does it actually mean.

 

Please advise, because I think it's time it went into room 101. Over to you

 

Alright Win - You don't get out much do ya?  (Just kidding, keep em coming mate)

 

Loads of things / words / phrases that used to be quite cool, or meant something meaningful and deep are now cringe worthy. Unfortunately they have been hijacked - hence I have compiled a 'Shudder List'....it has now got to the point where I daren't speak to a mate that has also added a few to it - Our conversations now go....."Blah, blah, blah"....."No, Len, you can't say that anymore, remember?"......."Oh yeh sorry, blah, blah, blah,"......."Len, no!"......."Sorry"......blah, blah, blah".......etc......I've given up talking to him now because we're both so screwed up with it all

 

All the best,

 

Len

 

K.F.C!

Edited October 4, 2013 by LEN

[Jem Britttin]

Do empathise with your awkwardness Winnie.   The one I always find awkward and hard to read, is the hanshake that develops into a grasp of thumbs...I never really remember that happening years back..or maybe people just didnt want to bond with me  ...seems to be a latter day thing...I never initiate it but feel compelled to go through with it if someone offers it..... out of politeness

[bri phill]

Personally thought the Dave Godin stuff was naff  leather gloves ,KTF etc.

Never knew anyone who said KTF.

The leather glove came in at the back end of the Wheel, but we all thought they were newbie knob heads.

The Casino made these guys look cool in my opinion..

 

[Guest proudlove]

I thought it was Bruce Lees phrase when he invented acrobatic norvern dancing......Kick the Fu%^&*s?

[purist]

As a teenager in '71ish, I had a top printed with the slogan Keep the Faith, done in a very artistic arch shape. I obviously thought I was the muts when i wore it (sad)

Everywhere I went people wanted to buy it off me, or rob it off me, and it became a wear & wash item ( we didn't have that many cool clothes, spent too much money on vinyl) Made friends that lasted lifetimes because of it, and as has been said it was like a secret handshake when people acknowledged you for wearing it.

Now like most folk have said I doubt I've used the phrase since before Wigan opened her doors, and I'd sat and read this thread with a smile - then yesterday in a Victor Meldrew " I Don't Believe It" moment I was about to cross a road in the town centre when a corporation lorry drove past, the window rolled down and a voice shouted " Keep The Faith, Johnny Boy".
So for those moments when you see somebody who you knew back in the olden days I think you are allowed to use it. I get p*ssed off when fake people hijack everything from the name 'Northern', down to the big trousers, so am i surprised that fakers have stolen this too, nah, not at all, but it makes them simple to spot

[Len]

As a teenager in '71ish, I had a top printed with the slogan Keep the Faith, done in a very artistic arch shape. I obviously thought I was the muts when i wore it (sad)

Everywhere I went people wanted to buy it off me, or rob it off me, and it became a wear & wash item ( we didn't have that many cool clothes, spent too much money on vinyl) Made friends that lasted lifetimes because of it, and as has been said it was like a secret handshake when people acknowledged you for wearing it.

Now like most folk have said I doubt I've used the phrase since before Wigan opened her doors, and I'd sat and read this thread with a smile - then yesterday in a Victor Meldrew " I Don't Believe It" moment I was about to cross a road in the town centre when a corporation lorry drove past, the window rolled down and a voice shouted " Keep The Faith, Johnny Boy".

So for those moments when you see somebody who you knew back in the olden days I think you are allowed to use it. I get p*ssed off when fake people hijack everything from the name 'Northern', down to the big trousers, so am i surprised that fakers have stolen this too, nah, not at all, but it makes them simple to spot

 

He he nice one mate  

 

'Granted' by the way - It's not actually on 'The Shudder List'  

 

All the best,

 

Len  

Edited October 5, 2013 by LEN

[Guest]

Keep The Faith, stick with Northern Soul 

[Ric-tic]

I was in a local shop a few years ago gossiping with the wife of somebody famous actually it was alan wickers missus, a soulie I kind of know came in and bought something and as he went out of the door he shouted back in 'keep the faith'! I nearly died as like others I cant recall anyone ever saying that, then she said to me what did that man say? and I said I don't know I didn't quite catch it!i was red in the face thinking that's just so naff!

[Guest]

Ktf....I wrote it in a colleague's birthday card at work recently sort of signed off with it at the end of my message, afterwards she came up to to thank me and said "Mick what does "ktf" mean. She genuinely did'n know! I had to respect that, she's welsh after all. Anyway to me its a generalization in life, a comment about life. Would be interested to know what you lot on here DO say to each other (those that were there at the start anyway, is that the wheel by he way? Mine's hello treacle.

ATB and yes you've guessed it KTF!!!

[Guest manusf3a]

Don't remember using it or any body who really did.

 

     "Alright mate, got any gear ?"  was the usual greeting in my day

Thing is then you could get one of may answers to specific type if lucky,including olde stocke,that to has gone the way of the the standard "Alright mate what gear have you got,Ive got............No longer pleasantly surprised to hear one of many caps or pills as the answer but a paltry one pill and powder answer,unless living in hope some old medicine cabinets sitting untouched for a very unlikely number of years turns something up,have heard though that a version of filon is available in the usa?

[Citizen P]

Thing is then you could get one of may answers to specific type if lucky,including olde stocke,that to has gone the way of the the standard "Alright mate what gear have you got,Ive got............No longer pleasantly surprised to hear one of many caps or pills as the answer but a paltry one pill and powder answer,unless living in hope some old medicine cabinets sitting untouched for a very unlikely number of years turns something up,have heard though that a version of filon is available in the usa?

Kop The Filon,

 

We'll live with that 

[Guest manusf3a]

Kop The Filon,

 

We'll live with that 

To right phenmetrazine all the way,I used to really like the earlier version preludin or pirrellis ,as they were known,theres some early photos of the Beatles over in Hamburg just before they go on stage and they are all holding up in their hands for the camera to see.Mind you I wuld make do with a bottle of stimplete rather than lucosade to quench the thirst if I could get hold of any.

Edited October 7, 2013 by manusf3a