Philb Posted September 3, 2013 Posted September 3, 2013 been knocking around for a while at between £160-200 on ebay with no buyers now at over £300 on an auction and all of a sudden all prices have gone up, this is what gets my blood boiling with collecting!!!
Premium Stuff Posted September 3, 2013 Posted September 3, 2013 been knocking around for a while at between £160-200 on ebay with no buyers now at over £300 on an auction and all of a sudden all prices have gone up, this is what gets my blood boiling with collecting!!! But it's not an auction mate - it's THE auction
Philb Posted September 3, 2013 Author Posted September 3, 2013 (edited) Still printing money, don't trust faceless auctions, when in an auction house you can see who's bidding against you these you can't. Edited September 3, 2013 by philb
Frankie Crocker Posted September 3, 2013 Posted September 3, 2013 Another interesting auction item from the Sotherby's of the Northern Soul world. Fancy a trip to Detroit to the source in Royal Oak or buy from the leading British seller and save on travel expenses? Wonder how many turned up in this haul as a good few have moved on eBay recently. My mint unplayed copy from Royal Oak upgraded one I bought off Rich Rosen a decade ago when he had a small quantity, but sadly the styrene hissed from sampling it on his carving-machine of a record player. Now this great tune has become more available to DJs it has stimulated further demand, yet again defying the laws of supply and demand (when an increase in supply normally results in a price fall). Manny now HAS to maintain the high-calibre range of auction sounds on a weekly basis so expect to bid against him more often in future when the mintiest rarities are up for grabs in the US eg Exits on Kapp, Maurice Williams on Deesu etc.
Pete S Posted September 4, 2013 Posted September 4, 2013 Another interesting auction item from the Sotherby's of the Northern Soul world. Fancy a trip to Detroit to the source in Royal Oak or buy from the leading British seller and save on travel expenses? Wonder how many turned up in this haul as a good few have moved on eBay recently. My mint unplayed copy from Royal Oak upgraded one I bought off Rich Rosen a decade ago when he had a small quantity, but sadly the styrene hissed from sampling it on his carving-machine of a record player. Now this great tune has become more available to DJs it has stimulated further demand, yet again defying the laws of supply and demand (when an increase in supply normally results in a price fall). Manny now HAS to maintain the high-calibre range of auction sounds on a weekly basis so expect to bid against him more often in future when the mintiest rarities are up for grabs in the US eg Exits on Kapp, Maurice Williams on Deesu etc. This isn't the highest calibre though. It's now an easy to find, non-demand 45 to anyone who knows anything - it's the ill informed sheep who end up paying double it's value in a JM auction. Half the records auction lately are sitting in most serious collectors boxes already. 2
Frankie Crocker Posted September 5, 2013 Posted September 5, 2013 This isn't the highest calibre though. It's now an easy to find, non-demand 45 to anyone who knows anything - it's the ill informed sheep who end up paying double it's value in a JM auction. Half the records auction lately are sitting in most serious collectors boxes already. True Pete, some of the JM auction items recently have been commoner records but Gary Dean has been a hard to find record for a couple of decades, the lack of DJ demand reflecting scarcity and price rather than lack of quality as it is a proper Northern dancer. Sticking my neck out, I guess the Royal Oak dealer had less than a 25 count box and these only seemed to trickle out so maybe it is pretty scarce with less than 50 copies out there QED? Sure it's plain daft overpaying in any auction but there are plenty of sound reasons for going out on a limb to secure a specific record from a certain dealer that can be relied on.
Premium Stuff Posted September 5, 2013 Posted September 5, 2013 Time will tell ... time will tell ... (if your love is real it wouldn't be easy to conceal) Sorry that last but was superfluous Richard
Rudzy Posted September 5, 2013 Posted September 5, 2013 been knocking around for a while at between £160-200 on ebay with no buyers now at over £300 on an auction and all of a sudden all prices have gone up, this is what gets my blood boiling with collecting!!! What a FANTASTIC RECORD!
Premium Stuff Posted September 5, 2013 Posted September 5, 2013 (edited) What a FANTASTIC RECORD! No doubt the auction copy ... https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=djqWOJztGoA Edited September 5, 2013 by Premium Stuff
grant Posted September 6, 2013 Posted September 6, 2013 there was one for sale on here the other day for £200.....now that's realisitic!
Pete S Posted September 6, 2013 Posted September 6, 2013 there was one for sale on here the other day for £200.....now that's realisitic! I can top that - here's one I was selling in April - £175 1
Dennisoul Posted September 6, 2013 Posted September 6, 2013 Always associate it with Rob Marriott..then Mark Wilson giving it some on the decks...belting tune
Premium Stuff Posted September 6, 2013 Posted September 6, 2013 Got to say even if it's not that soulful it is definitely Northern! Richard
Markw Posted September 6, 2013 Posted September 6, 2013 I bought this last year off the US fella on Ebay who was knocking out a load of unplayed stock copies . I won it at a very decent price (decent even compared to what it dropped to as well as what it has gone for in the past). First copy was cracked; replacement copy was cracked as well; third one was OK. Something else turned up soon after that I wanted more so I moved it on. Wonder how many of those copies were cracked?
Phild Posted September 6, 2013 Posted September 6, 2013 was £700 in year 2000 That about right. I sold a copy at The Griffin in, I think, 1999 for £650.00
Chalky Posted September 6, 2013 Posted September 6, 2013 (edited) Who discovered this? Edited September 7, 2013 by chalky
Philb Posted September 6, 2013 Author Posted September 6, 2013 This isn't the highest calibre though. It's now an easy to find, non-demand 45 to anyone who knows anything - it's the ill informed sheep who end up paying double it's value in a JM auction. Half the records auction lately are sitting in most serious collectors boxes already. Pete I will pay £250 for one if you can get it.
Tony Smith Posted September 7, 2013 Posted September 7, 2013 (edited) Who discovered this? First came to be known via Martin Koppel, I played it c/u as Freddie Chavez, possibly 1986-87 Edited September 7, 2013 by Tony Smith 2
Markw Posted September 7, 2013 Posted September 7, 2013 I didn't know this record until it was getting played at the Dome (Capitol Soul Club) - I think Carl Fortnum was playing it there. Used to love the 'Downtown' bit in the middle.
Pk 22dj Posted September 7, 2013 Posted September 7, 2013 I was after this for a few years and kept missing it bought it not long back at £175 If I'm not mistaken, a bargain by any means in my book. Lots of records go for a lot more and make me laugh, this just takes you back in a second or two into the tune.
Chalky Posted September 7, 2013 Posted September 7, 2013 First came to be known via Martin Koppel, I played it c/u as Freddie Chavez, possibly 1986-87 I remember it from the 80's early 90's but couldn't remember who turned it up or who played it first. Was a biggie for Gary Spencer as well.
tosspot Posted September 7, 2013 Posted September 7, 2013 I remember it from the 80's early 90's but couldn't remember who turned it up or who played it first. Was a biggie for Gary Spencer as well. Gary defo played it out cos I've got a tape from the early 90s with it on, I got mine for a bargain cos it was under the radar at the time lol
Rupert Posted September 7, 2013 Posted September 7, 2013 Pete I will pay £250 for one if you can get it. henry atkinson had it for sale at £200 , may be there
Moxey25 Posted September 7, 2013 Posted September 7, 2013 160 of a record dealer in usa he put one out every month
Emjaygee Posted September 7, 2013 Posted September 7, 2013 I didn't know this record until it was getting played at the Dome (Capitol Soul Club) - I think Carl Fortnum was playing it there. Used to love the 'Downtown' bit in the middle. I remember when I used to stay with Flynny when he was resident @ the dome he had one in his box, and do remember him dropping in at least one set too.
Markw Posted September 8, 2013 Posted September 8, 2013 Might have been Dave that spun it at the Dome. It was a regular spin there.
Guest Posted September 8, 2013 Posted September 8, 2013 Might have been Dave that spun it at the Dome. It was a regular spin there. Checked my notes and yes I played it at the Dome, but only the once on May 30th 2003 to be precise! Irish Greg played it fairly regularly, so blame him
Markw Posted September 8, 2013 Posted September 8, 2013 Ah ha!! I knew one of you whacked it on the decks more than once........Gary Dean, that is
Guest Posted September 8, 2013 Posted September 8, 2013 Ah ha!! I knew one of you whacked it on the decks more than once.. Oh the things that used to go on in that DJ room behind the wire fence
Markw Posted September 8, 2013 Posted September 8, 2013 Oh the things that used to go on in that DJ room behind the wire fence Ooooo, Matron!!!
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