KevH Posted August 29, 2013 Share Posted August 29, 2013 Wasn't 'Keep the faith' what Dave Godin signed off his B&S column with in every issue of the mag back in the 60's !!!! As he was the 1st national guy to highlight the existence of the NS scene I'd guess its true to say ...... A/ That it was a term used by some of those on the scene (at least back in the late 60's / early 70's). B/ Isn't like KOKO (!?!? .... keep on keepin on ... I guess) a 90's phrase. KOKO....? Does anyone say this.? Link to comment Social source share More sharing options...
Steve S 60 Posted August 29, 2013 Share Posted August 29, 2013 "Right On" was supposedly another term used, but I only ever heard it in 70s Blaxploitation movies. Link to comment Social source share More sharing options...
Winnie :-) Posted August 29, 2013 Share Posted August 29, 2013 KOKO....? Does anyone say this.? yes his wife in moments of intimacy ''Oooh Koko take your make-up off and come to bed'' I do realise it's actually Coco https://www.britishpathe.com/video/coco-the-clown Apologies to thread starter for going off topic 2 Link to comment Social source share More sharing options...
Little-stevie Posted August 29, 2013 Share Posted August 29, 2013 I would like to see KTF granny sporting black fist on the knickers as a model in the windows.... That would start a LANDSLIDE... 1 Link to comment Social source share More sharing options...
Guest Dave Turner Posted August 29, 2013 Share Posted August 29, 2013 (edited) Just need one of these now and I can show the neighbours that me and the pooch are complete and elite hoodie soulies Right On, KTF & KoKo ... oh nearly forgot FFS Edited August 29, 2013 by Dave Turner Link to comment Social source share More sharing options...
Roburt Posted August 29, 2013 Share Posted August 29, 2013 I had a KOKO phase but I moved onto MINARET. Funny I should mention Minaret ..... COZ ......... https://omnivorerecordings.com/south-side-of-soul-street/ Link to comment Social source share More sharing options...
Guest manusf3a Posted August 29, 2013 Share Posted August 29, 2013 (edited) Yes, Brian Taylor the Tailor - You wouldn't know him, you're simply not cool enough Win Damn, Damn, Damn!.....Or is that Dam? Len Brian is more like artic cool,always looked up to him when I was younger,him Pasqale(Passy) and John Boyd set the bar as far as far as I was concerned,between them they must have liberated more dda s than Boots has branches,the original Corby firm that shone the light for those to follow,(Torch light that is,with adidas bag in the other hand ready to fill with the contnents of the cabinet).Havent seen him since the late seventies when me and Wilky went to st Ives with him and spent the next day blocking it up in Cambridge on the river,punt sinking with another car load of folk he knew,As Ive said one of the people I had,have the utmost respect for.I ve only just come across the book "Soul Stylists", and read some of the excerpts on the web,I am going to buy it because from what I can see written in the excerpts its worth buying just to read Brians contribution on its own,no disrespect intended to other contributors because they also seem to have much to say about the scene.As we have said Len ,one of those very influential people you meet along the way that leaves a lasting impression.atbmanus ps bollux tay de sintax.Hows that for a slightly "drifting off topic",for you Len? Edited August 29, 2013 by manusf3a Link to comment Social source share More sharing options...
Roburt Posted August 29, 2013 Share Posted August 29, 2013 It's just Mod Madness, deffo Mod Madness ........ 1 Link to comment Social source share More sharing options...
Len Posted August 29, 2013 Share Posted August 29, 2013 propensity Word........ .....................clever git Len Link to comment Social source share More sharing options...
Len Posted August 29, 2013 Share Posted August 29, 2013 (edited) At least they might be up dancing instead of sitting getting pissed and moaning about the scene and how it's not as good as it was back whenever. "Well the scene ain't as good as it was!"........'hic' .....On a serious note that you touched upon - Youth Culture (as it was) is what's missing nowadays, and I think that's a shame for the 'kids of today'.......I looked / felt great with my parka fish tail dragging along the floor behind me when I was 14.....and I had 'attitude!' Len P.s - It seems this younger generation don't / don't need to 'make an effort' to attract the opposite sex - just a pair of jogging bottoms and a hoodie seems to do the trick for them.....yes, a real shame. Edited August 29, 2013 by LEN Link to comment Social source share More sharing options...
Len Posted August 29, 2013 Share Posted August 29, 2013 yes his wife in moments of intimacy ''Oooh Koko take your make-up off and come to bed'' I do realise it's actually Coco https://www.britishpathe.com/video/coco-the-clown Apologies to thread starter for going off topic Nothing wrong with Clowns!.......Just a 'chosen few' will get that Len Link to comment Social source share More sharing options...
grant Posted August 29, 2013 Share Posted August 29, 2013 Them Roxy birds at Pips, pencil skirts, stockings and stilettos.....mind how you go "in the Toon" dressed like that mate remember them days well mate 1 Link to comment Social source share More sharing options...
Mak Posted August 29, 2013 Share Posted August 29, 2013 Isn't NS "a way of life" these days It'll never be over for me Link to comment Social source share More sharing options...
Dean Posted August 29, 2013 Author Share Posted August 29, 2013 "The figurehead was the people -" Jesus who wrote that " It was all about looking good on the dance floor." - that all went pear shaped somewhere along the way Big thumbs down from me mate, more tat Don't say that buddy, it's just going to make for an embarrassed silence when you get one for Christmas along with your Northern Soul dancing lessons i'm saving up for to buy you. 1 Link to comment Social source share More sharing options...
Frankie Crocker Posted August 29, 2013 Share Posted August 29, 2013 I have just looked at every page in Keith Rylatt & Phil Scott's wonderful book on The Wheel 'Central 1179' and there is no sign of any vinyl bags; in fact, the hard-cases photographed were so sharply dressed, they didn't need accessories. Vinyl airline style bags were around in the 1960's but were they carried by Twisted Wheel goers? When I went to The Casino six months to the day after it opened, I carried a plain cricket bag made of cloth with leather straps - many holdalls that night were very similar or had a tartan pattern, but most patches were on shirts and singlets as I recall. I got my first of many adidas holdalls in late 1974 but can't remember when they were first adorned with soul patches - can anyone claim this honour? To answer the question though, tat it may be, but it will be the closest any youngster will get to a ground-breaking British Allnighter like The Twisted Wheel. 3 Link to comment Social source share More sharing options...
Ljblanken Posted August 30, 2013 Share Posted August 30, 2013 Anyway, the bottom line is that things like this will appeal to those that like this sort of thing... ha ha! tautologically fantastic! 1 Link to comment Social source share More sharing options...
Guest manusf3a Posted August 30, 2013 Share Posted August 30, 2013 ha ha! tautologically fantastic! Very nice word usage,ha ha. Link to comment Social source share More sharing options...
Roburt Posted August 30, 2013 Share Posted August 30, 2013 Link to comment Social source share More sharing options...
Roburt Posted August 30, 2013 Share Posted August 30, 2013 ..... RE: Vinyl airline style bags were around in the 1960's but were they carried by Twisted Wheel goers? My memory ain't what it was BUT I don't recall anyone taking Vinyl airline style bags to the Wheel. Link to comment Social source share More sharing options...
Ady Croasdell Posted August 30, 2013 Share Posted August 30, 2013 I hope this doesn't mean membership of the Hollister surf club will decline. 2 Link to comment Social source share More sharing options...
Louise Posted August 30, 2013 Share Posted August 30, 2013 Saw some NS condoms the other day but they'd had too much DJ use are were knackered. I hope they didn't have any drill holes in the vinyl ,Dean Link to comment Social source share More sharing options...
Louise Posted August 30, 2013 Share Posted August 30, 2013 (edited) Yes one of the rarest sights these days in the record bar of a northern event is actually seeing someone sellling records Dave Edited August 30, 2013 by Louise 3 Link to comment Social source share More sharing options...
Steve G Posted August 30, 2013 Share Posted August 30, 2013 Yes one of the rarest sights these days in the record bar of a northern event is actually seeing someone sellling records Dave Dave when are you starting your new line in mens apparel? Link to comment Social source share More sharing options...
Louise Posted August 30, 2013 Share Posted August 30, 2013 Dave when are you starting your new line in mens apparel? That's a bit sexist Steve, Unisex Apparel if you don't mind, can short you and Lorriane out with a couple of his and hers matching numbers Link to comment Social source share More sharing options...
Steve G Posted August 30, 2013 Share Posted August 30, 2013 Ok put two by for us......XXL and XXS Link to comment Social source share More sharing options...
Guest Dave Turner Posted August 30, 2013 Share Posted August 30, 2013 (edited) I have just looked at every page in Keith Rylatt & Phil Scott's wonderful book on The Wheel 'Central 1179' and there is no sign of any vinyl bags; in fact, the hard-cases photographed were so sharply dressed, they didn't need accessories. Vinyl airline style bags were around in the 1960's but were they carried by Twisted Wheel goers? When I went to The Casino six months to the day after it opened, I carried a plain cricket bag made of cloth with leather straps - many holdalls that night were very similar or had a tartan pattern, but most patches were on shirts and singlets as I recall. I got my first of many adidas holdalls in late 1974 but can't remember when they were first adorned with soul patches - can anyone claim this honour? To answer the question though, tat it may be, but it will be the closest any youngster will get to a ground-breaking British Allnighter like The Twisted Wheel. Agree with ya mate, I started going further afield a couple of months or so after the Torch shut, so about mid 73 and I can't remember vinyl airline type bags being about. I think they just gradually appeared without being much noticed. Like you say most had stylish cloth and leather strapped holdalls. Only ever had one badge and that was the original VaVa's which I did put on my bag. Shit and dowdy looking badge, none of those brightly coloured things for me, oh no no no It always seemed to me that a badge was a "I've been there" kinda thing. I could understand seeing someone with a vest with a Torch, Howard Mallet (the original I thought a good badge), Keighley Okeh Club etc etc. Everything else ie Right On, Night Owl etc etc badges always seemed tat to me and to be honest like Gary Lewis & the Playboys was a part of the scene I didn't like. Loved just about all of the rest of it though Edited August 30, 2013 by Dave Turner Link to comment Social source share More sharing options...
Citizen P Posted August 30, 2013 Share Posted August 30, 2013 ha ha! tautologically fantastic! Tautology-a universal truth in formal logic. or-a self-reinforcing pretense of significant truth. prefer the first definition myself..... 1 Link to comment Social source share More sharing options...
Steve S 60 Posted August 30, 2013 Share Posted August 30, 2013 Agree with ya mate, I started going further afield a couple of months or so after the Torch shut, so about mid 73 and I can't remember vinyl airline type bags being about. I think they just gradually appeared without being much noticed. Like you say most had stylish cloth and leather strapped holdalls. Only ever had one badge and that was the original VaVa's which I did put on my bag. Shit and dowdy looking badge, none of those brightly coloured things for me, oh no no no It always seemed to me that a badge was a "I've been there" kinda thing. I could understand seeing someone with a vest with a Torch, Howard Mallet (the original I thought a good badge), Keighley Okeh Club etc etc. Everything else ie Right On, Night Owl etc etc badges always seemed tat to me and to be honest like Gary Lewis & the Playboys was a part of the scene I didn't like. Loved just about all of the rest of it though I was still at secondary school in the mid 70s and most of us had vinyl sports bags (Adidas, Puma, Gola etc) for carrying our P.E. kit in. It wasn't a Northern Soul thing, everybody had them. Not surprising then that they started to appear at All-Nighters. Link to comment Social source share More sharing options...
Tezza Posted August 30, 2013 Share Posted August 30, 2013 Agree with ya mate, I started going further afield a couple of months or so after the Torch shut, so about mid 73 and I can't remember vinyl airline type bags being about. I think they just gradually appeared without being much noticed. Like you say most had stylish cloth and leather strapped holdalls. Only ever had one badge and that was the original VaVa's which I did put on my bag. Shit and dowdy looking badge, none of those brightly coloured things for me, oh no no no It always seemed to me that a badge was a "I've been there" kinda thing. I could understand seeing someone with a vest with a Torch, Howard Mallet (the original I thought a good badge), Keighley Okeh Club etc etc. Everything else ie Right On, Night Owl etc etc badges always seemed tat to me and to be honest like Gary Lewis & the Playboys was a part of the scene I didn't like. Loved just about all of the rest of it though The Vinyl Bags were prevelent at School etc at the time but not part of the Garb at the Soul Clubs. It was all about style over substance. Had a Samantha's Badge - The nice deep Red one, but it was attached to my Blazer Breast Pocket. Looked really cool. Apart from that, the Fist Logo etc - laughable. To be honest, even the Casino Badges looked a little gaudy. Buy a badge and stick it in a draw to fish out 30 odd years later to rekindle the Memories ? Link to comment Social source share More sharing options...
Guest Dave Turner Posted August 30, 2013 Share Posted August 30, 2013 I was still at secondary school in the mid 70s and most of us had vinyl sports bags (Adidas, Puma, Gola etc) for carrying our P.E. kit in. It wasn't a Northern Soul thing, everybody had them. Not surprising then that they started to appear at All-Nighters. Most of us at school had lunch boxes but I can't remember them taking off on the Northern Scene, or maybe they were hidden inside the vinyl sports bags Link to comment Social source share More sharing options...
Guest Dave Turner Posted August 30, 2013 Share Posted August 30, 2013 The Vinyl Bags were prevelent at School etc at the time but not part of the Garb at the Soul Clubs. It was all about style over substance. Had a Samantha's Badge - The nice deep Red one, but it was attached to my Blazer Breast Pocket. Looked really cool. Apart from that, the Fist Logo etc - laughable. To be honest, even the Casino Badges looked a little gaudy. Buy a badge and stick it in a draw to fish out 30 odd years later to rekindle the Memories ? With ya Link to comment Social source share More sharing options...
Bazza Posted August 30, 2013 Share Posted August 30, 2013 Tautology-a universal truth in formal logic. or-a self-reinforcing pretense of significant truth. prefer the first definition myself..... Blimey ,get me my Dictionary Bazza Link to comment Social source share More sharing options...
Steve S 60 Posted August 30, 2013 Share Posted August 30, 2013 Most of us at school had lunch boxes but I can't remember them taking off on the Northern Scene, or maybe they were hidden inside the vinyl sports bags I was on school dinners, although my mam used to knock me up some sandwiches and put a clean change of underwear in my bag when I went down to an All Nighter. 1 Link to comment Social source share More sharing options...
TOAD Posted August 30, 2013 Share Posted August 30, 2013 One thing is fp do not no what a tank top is and it ain't a v neck Link to comment Social source share More sharing options...
Citizen P Posted August 30, 2013 Share Posted August 30, 2013 It'll never be over for me Shouldn't that be "It'll never be ovo for me" ?? Link to comment Social source share More sharing options...
Len Posted August 30, 2013 Share Posted August 30, 2013 Very nice word usage,ha ha. Beat me to it - Yes well done that man! Len P.s - Anyone for a game of Scrabble?........after the next nighter......... Link to comment Social source share More sharing options...
Len Posted August 30, 2013 Share Posted August 30, 2013 (edited) Most of us at school had lunch boxes but I can't remember them taking off on the Northern Scene, ..........Sadly I can (True story this)........I was young and very skint, so (thinking nothing of it) I took sandwiches and a flask of coffee (yes a flask of coffee!) to The Fleet All-nighter at Peterborough......I was enjoying my night in that 'I'm young and scared kinda way', I went and sat down, and thought ......"Mmmmm coffee time"......so whilst still enjoying my night I decided to get me flask out........as I was pouring my coffee, two older girls looked over........then one of them said......"Tight C*nt!" with a big scowl on her face........I can't tell you how devastated I was - it completely ruined my night......and the next week (s)......not that I still think about it to this day........ Len Edited August 30, 2013 by LEN 2 Link to comment Social source share More sharing options...
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Davenpete Posted September 2, 2013 Share Posted September 2, 2013 I remember Paul Smith doing patch vests and baggies for the Japanese market in the late 80s (and indeed couple of casuals came round our gaff in Swindon back then trying to buy patches etc to put on blazers as a purely fashion thing - probably Danny Huff's fault as he used to flog a lot of vintage clothing - as well as dodgy copies of The Q) - it might peak interest amongst a few to find out more etc. Dx 1 Link to comment Social source share More sharing options...
TOAD Posted September 2, 2013 Share Posted September 2, 2013 No way are youngsters interested ! And if you are wanting them to go give them a lift or take the music to them otherwise forget it, its nearly finished 1 Link to comment Social source share More sharing options...
Len Posted September 2, 2013 Share Posted September 2, 2013 probably Danny Huff's fault as he used to flog a lot of vintage clothing - as well as dodgy copies of The Q) Dx .......and phones! Len Link to comment Social source share More sharing options...
Davenpete Posted September 3, 2013 Share Posted September 3, 2013 .......and phones! Len I remember him flogging the company system out of his car to a customer for cash and then telling the office it blew out of the window when he was driving! 1 Link to comment Social source share More sharing options...
Bazza Posted September 3, 2013 Share Posted September 3, 2013 No way are youngsters interested ! And if you are wanting them to go give them a lift or take the music to them otherwise forget it, its nearly finished Young punks spilling beer on my shoes,nope don't want it, and although the present scene bears no resemblance to the scene I originally loved, I give it ten years at the most till it dies off completely Bazza 3 Link to comment Social source share More sharing options...
Tezza Posted September 3, 2013 Share Posted September 3, 2013 Young punks spilling beer on my shoes,nope don't want it, and although the present scene bears no resemblance to the scene I originally loved, I give it ten years at the most till it dies off completely Bazza There are no where near enough 'Young Souls' to sustain it Bazza, it will fall away and perhaps the odd reunion weekend etc. Great while it lasted but it will, as you say, die with us as a genuine 'scene'. 1 Link to comment Social source share More sharing options...
dedji1955 Posted September 3, 2013 Share Posted September 3, 2013 The Twisted Wheel ! Isn't that the Club that closed in 1971. Reopened somewhere else using the same name. Closed, burnt down then fell into the swamp but reopened somewhere else using the same name ? (may have change by time of publication) Nice looking things but wont be worn by the people that do. Saying that, when I was at Uni I saw a lot of Students with Che Guevara T Shirts on. Today I see T Shirts of Bob Marley, The Beatles, Led Zep etc. Don't read too much into it, they just look nice (to them that buy's them init). Not quite correct Tezza The Original Wheel opened in Brazennose St in 1963, 18 Months later it moved to Whitworth St which closed in 1971 and was started again in the same premises by Pete Roberts, when those premises where to be demolished Pete transferred to NQ live and after a fire there they moved to the present premises at Alterego All the admission fees, plus money from raffles etc along with a £500 donation from the club owners was paid to the memorial fund for Stephen Hunt the firefighter who was killed fighting the fire Although Fred Perry cashed in on the Twisted Wheel name they did not donate one penny to this fund The logo Fred Perry have used on their clothing refers to The Twisted Wheel Scooter Club The TW Club at Alterego is frequented by a large number of older customers who started attending in the mid sixties and the atmosphere is second to none, it was packed for The Allnighter last Friday and will be busy on Sunday with like minded folks from all over the Country Fred 1 Link to comment Social source share More sharing options...
Tezza Posted September 3, 2013 Share Posted September 3, 2013 Not quite correct Tezza The Original Wheel opened in Brazennose St in 1963, 18 Months later it moved to Whitworth St which closed in 1971 and was started again in the same premises by Pete Roberts, when those premises where to be demolished Pete transferred to NQ live and after a fire there they moved to the present premises at Alterego All the admission fees, plus money from raffles etc along with a £500 donation from the club owners was paid to the memorial fund for Stephen Hunt the firefighter who was killed fighting the fire Although Fred Perry cashed in on the Twisted Wheel name they did not donate one penny to this fund The logo Fred Perry have used on their clothing refers to The Twisted Wheel Scooter Club The TW Club at Alterego is frequented by a large number of older customers who started attending in the mid sixties and the atmosphere is second to none, it was packed for The Allnighter last Friday and will be busy on Sunday with like minded folks from all over the Country Fred Cheers Fred, Don't think a lot realise that the Logo refers to the Scooter Club and not the Club itself direct. You would think that they would push a nominal 'Donation' across as a mark of respect. Terry 1 Link to comment Social source share More sharing options...
Steve G Posted September 3, 2013 Share Posted September 3, 2013 The music will never die, it's been too widely marketed for that to happen, and is known about globally. The "scene" i.e. dressing up, and going out dancing in a cold hall somewhere in Britain, will die out along with all the paraphanalia, badges, vests, talking clocks etc. It's been on life support for some years now since the last lot of returnees renewed their interest, and then rapidly remembered why they didn't stick with soul music in the first place. 1 Link to comment Social source share More sharing options...
Steve S 60 Posted September 3, 2013 Share Posted September 3, 2013 People have been predicting the demise of the scene for years now, and here we are, over forty years old and still going strong. There's been a lot of new blood on the scene in recent years, and they'll carry the torch forward. The making of Elaine Constantine's film has done much to introduce a younger generation to the scene, as can be witnessed at various soul nights, and hopefully on release, it will attract a lot more. Link to comment Social source share More sharing options...
Bazza Posted September 3, 2013 Share Posted September 3, 2013 People have been predicting the demise of the scene for years now, and here we are, over forty years old and still going strong. There's been a lot of new blood on the scene in recent years, and they'll carry the torch forward. The making of Elaine Constantine's film has done much to introduce a younger generation to the scene, as can be witnessed at various soul nights, and hopefully on release, it will attract a lot more. Over 40,try closer to 60 ,sadly Bazza 1 Link to comment Social source share More sharing options...
grant Posted September 3, 2013 Share Posted September 3, 2013 The "scene" i.e. dressing up, and going out dancing in a cold hall somewhere in Britain, will die out along with all the paraphanalia, badges, vests, talking clocks etc. cant come soon enough 1 Link to comment Social source share More sharing options...
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