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A work friend purchased a Fred Perry Twisted Wheel Shoulder bag from the Nottingham shop for her daughter to start back to school.

 

"Specially designed edition of the classic shoulder bag, created as part of this season's Twisted Wheel collection. The zipped style is complemented with woven patches featuring motifs and design details inspired by the legendary Northern Soul movement. Complete with our trademark twin tipping detail on the front slip pocket and an adjustable shoulder strap."

"A music and dance movement that emerged and prospered during the 1960s and 70s in working class areas of the North, Northern Soul grew out of the underground rhythm and soul scene. Largely overlooked by the mainstream media the movement centred on its followers.

The figurehead was the people - the kids who made the weekly pilgrimage to the clubs, the ones who had the best moves, the ones with the sharpest dress sense. It was all about looking good on the dance floor."

 

 

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Sorry for small pic, there's different versions on the Fred Perry website (the subculture tab on the website has some cringing video inteviews on together with cuts from This England, Soul Boy and NS playlist), also there are shirts and vests with the same badges on.

 

My first reaction is FFS, but could such items, attract younger people to explore the music and clubs?

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    Only for those who weren't there in the first place.

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A while back I asked a group of young uns about their views on Northern Soul when I saw a couple of them had the Fist/Keep The Faith logo  on their shoulder bags and they thought Northern Soul and KTF

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 which, kinda coincides with my belief that a lot of 'em don't really like the music..

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A work friend purchased a Fred Perry Twisted Wheel Shoulder bag from the Nottingham shop for her daughter to start back to school.

 

"Specially designed edition of the classic shoulder bag, created as part of this season's Twisted Wheel collection. The zipped style is complemented with woven patches featuring motifs and design details inspired by the legendary Northern Soul movement. Complete with our trademark twin tipping detail on the front slip pocket and an adjustable shoulder strap."

"A music and dance movement that emerged and prospered during the 1960s and 70s in working class areas of the North, Northern Soul grew out of the underground rhythm and soul scene. Largely overlooked by the mainstream media the movement centred on its followers.

The figurehead was the people - the kids who made the weekly pilgrimage to the clubs, the ones who had the best moves, the ones with the sharpest dress sense. It was all about looking good on the dance floor."

 

 

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Sorry for small pic, there's different versions on the Fred Perry website (the subculture tab on the website has some cringing video inteviews on together with cuts from This England, Soul Boy and NS playlist), also there are shirts and vests with the same badges on.

 

My first reaction is FFS, but could such items, attract younger people to explore the music and clubs?

It's tat Dean, he says taking a sip of tea out of his much adored ''I love northern soul, it's not just a fad, it's a way of life and it'll never be over for me'' mug. Got to pop out now, I've run out of my 'Russ Winstanley sweeteners' :)

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A work friend purchased a Fred Perry Twisted Wheel Shoulder bag from the Nottingham shop for her daughter to start back to school.

 

"Specially designed edition of the classic shoulder bag, created as part of this season's Twisted Wheel collection. The zipped style is complemented with woven patches featuring motifs and design details inspired by the legendary Northern Soul movement. Complete with our trademark twin tipping detail on the front slip pocket and an adjustable shoulder strap."

"A music and dance movement that emerged and prospered during the 1960s and 70s in working class areas of the North, Northern Soul grew out of the underground rhythm and soul scene. Largely overlooked by the mainstream media the movement centred on its followers.

The figurehead was the people - the kids who made the weekly pilgrimage to the clubs, the ones who had the best moves, the ones with the sharpest dress sense. It was all about looking good on the dance floor."

 

 

attachicon.gifL3174_102_1.jpg

 

Sorry for small pic, there's different versions on the Fred Perry website (the subculture tab on the website has some cringing video inteviews on together with cuts from This England, Soul Boy and NS playlist), also there are shirts and vests with the same badges on.

 

My first reaction is FFS, but could such items, attract younger people to explore the music and clubs?

No,

 

A few years back my youngest daughter bought a Northern Soul bag complete with big black fist, I asked, as she didn't like Dads music, why she'd bought it

 

It's retro innit, she replied.

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The Twisted Wheel !

Isn't that the Club that closed in 1971. Reopened somewhere else using the same name. Closed, burnt down then fell into the swamp but reopened somewhere else using the same name ?

(may have change by time of publication)

Nice looking things but wont be worn by the people that do.

Saying that, when I was at Uni I saw a lot of Students with Che Guevara T Shirts on.  Today I see T Shirts of Bob Marley, The Beatles, Led Zep etc. Don't read too much into it, they just look nice (to them that buy's them init).

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No,

 

A few years back my youngest daughter bought a Northern Soul bag complete with big black fist,

 

From the same shop?! :ohmy: 

 

Perfuse apologies, I couldn't resist - just a joke :wink: 

 

All the best,

 

Len :thumbsup: 

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Nope...'twas in Manchester  :P

 

Anyway, the bottom line is that things like this will appeal to those that like this sort of thing...

 

Phew! - You do have a sense of humour! :D 

 

Back 'on topic' (I'm always writing that, can't think why :)).........It's 'tat' to us, but definitely 'retro' to young people, and to them whatever is on the bag is 'the look', and nothing more. We all still want it to be underground, and us being the young people to boot, but we're not anymore - so I suppose it upsets us (just a little) :wink: 

 

All the best,

 

Len :thumbsup: 

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You grumpy old Ba*****s :wink:

Checked with my 23 year old son (who I've never ever dressed up in 70s regalia and taken along to a soul night, although he does threaten to turn up so he see me attempt to dance) who laughed and said "Oh that will just attract the Hipster Mods (a new tribe every week?), you don't want them???? 

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Out of interest is it more to numpty to a.) buy said bag or b.)  have loads of stickers proclaiming the fact that you're 'keeping the faith Okeh"** in the back window of your car?

 

 

 

** Not necessarily exact wording - other slogans are available.

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TAT.

in the same way that parkas are tat.

in the same way that Harley Davidson clothing is tat

in the same way that spencers, vests and beer towels are tat.

 

BUT

it will probably attract a whole new crowd of returnees to the "life style" they enjoyed for half a summer in the mid 70s

so it cant be a bad thing can it?

:)

 

oh and I can see both of my lads, and their mates, using the bags for college/sports, but I cannot imagine any of them suddenly wanting to join the "life style"

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Out of interest is it more to numpty to a.) buy said bag or b.)  have loads of stickers proclaiming the fact that you're 'keeping the faith Okeh"** in the back window of your car?

 

 

 

** Not necessarily exact wording - other slogans are available.

We're onto degrees of numptiness now. At some age we should have developed more discerning tastes. Young Hipster Mods (get me) buying a bag is like me wearing high waistband pleated multi zipped Oxford bags at 15 / 16. Thought I was cool and with the in-crowd! At that time Hipsters were what the girls who always ignored me wore. Not convinced I can adequately argue the case for either numpty after the age of 20!

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Out of interest is it more to numpty to a.) buy said bag or b.) have loads of stickers proclaiming the fact that you're 'keeping the faith Okeh"** in the back window of your car?

** Not necessarily exact wording - other slogans are available.

"keep the faith" a term I've never actually heard any of my mates on the scene say. Ironically a term used only by those that didn't :)

Oh... The question. Tat, will not attract any newcomers whatsoever and falls into a similar category as kids wearing Ramones T Shirts.

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"keep the faith" a term I've never actually heard any of my mates on the scene say. Ironically a term used only by those that didn't :)

Oh... The question. Tat, will not attract any newcomers whatsoever and falls into a similar category as kids wearing Ramones T Shirts.

Very true Byrney  "KTF"  "KOKO" ,took me a while to get the koko one ,are these 90's phrases, I dunno ,but they were never used back then as far as I remember  :huh:

 

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We're onto degrees of numptiness now. At some age we should have developed more discerning tastes. Young Hipster Mods (get me) buying a bag is like me wearing high waistband pleated multi zipped Oxford bags at 15 / 16. Thought I was cool and with the in-crowd! At that time Hipsters were what the girls who always ignored me wore. Not convinced I can adequately argue the case for either numpty after the age of 20!

 

The difference being, that the 'high waistband pleated multi zipped Oxford bags' you were wearing, were for your time and style, not another generations'.

 

.....I used to wear Hipsters (Taylor made)........and I'm not ignoring you........(and to save anyone the trouble - No I'm not a girl!) :D 

 

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The difference being, that the 'high waistband pleated multi zipped Oxford bags' you were wearing, were for your time and style, not another generations'.

 

.....I used to wear Hipsters (Taylor made)........and I'm not ignoring you........(and to save anyone the trouble - No I'm not a girl!) :D 

 

Len :thumbsup: 

Was this Taylor a tailor :P

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Wasn't 'Keep the faith' what Dave Godin signed off his B&S column with in every issue of the mag back in the 60's !!!!

As he was the 1st national guy to highlight the existence of the NS scene I'd guess its true to say ......

 

A/ That it was a term used by some of those on the scene (at least back in the late 60's / early 70's).

 

B/ Isn't like KOKO (!?!? .... keep on keepin on ... I guess) a 90's phrase.

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Quote from Dave Godin's B&S column in mag #82 (April 72) ...........

'Keep the Faith' is a well known expression that defies precise definition, but over the years gallant little President (of Jay Boy fame) have done just that, and now they have excelled themselves with their 3 volume set "Keep The Faith". 

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Was this Taylor a tailor :P

 

 

so pleased you are also keeping a firm eye on Len's syntax Winnie, it can be a full and arduous task at times given his propensity for posting

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Quote from Dave Godin's B&S column in mag #82 (April 72) ...........

'Keep the Faith' is a well known expression that defies precise definition, but over the years gallant little President (of Jay Boy fame) have done just that, and now they have excelled themselves with their 3 volume set "Keep The Faith". 

If you say so, my memory is a bit sketchy of them days ,but I do know if some one stuck there fist up and said " keep the faith "I would think they were a twat  :huh:

 

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edited missed out "one" lol

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If you say so, my memory is a bit sketchy of them days ,but I do know if some stuck there fist up and said " keep the faith "I would think they were a twat  :huh:

 

Bazza   :hatsoff2:

Well you'd think many who attended nighters around 69/70/71 were tw*ts then.

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in the same way that Harley Davidson clothing is tat

 

 

That reminds me of the time I was cycling through Bridgwater once. Anyway the local chapter of Hells Angels pulled up beside me at the traffic lights all revving their HD's and all wearing their trademark jackets. This could be interesting I thought.....expecting some tough hoodlums prone to flattening bars in seconds, knocking cyclists over for a larf, not changing their filthy trousers for over a year - you know hard men types....Anyway I looked at 'em and they were a bunch of geriatric whimps like bank managers on a day off. It was both amusing and re-assuring I guess.

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A while back I asked a group of young uns about their views on Northern Soul when I saw a couple of them had the Fist/Keep The Faith logo  on their shoulder bags and they thought Northern Soul and KTF were bands!!!! from the past.

I don't think anyone of these young kids buying the 'latest trend' item shoved in their faces by some ad/pr/brand positioning campaign will suddenly seek out a record player and start collecting original soul vinyl, but if just one does it may just be that they go on and learn about the music.

We are all learning about stuff at all stages of our lives.

The nation though seems devoid of any dominant youth culture at the moment but has a mish mash of many styles along with a big hint of retro - mods/skins/any era vintage.

I'm also not expecting any massive amount of younger people getting into the scene but we must welcome them if they do and if they like wearing 'the gear' then so fkn what.

At least they might be up dancing instead of sitting getting pissed and moaning about the scene and how it's not as good as it was back whenever.

''And why do you look at the splinter in your brother’s eye, but do not consider the plank in your own eye?'' Matthew 7:1-5

Keep The Faith .... I'm off to buy some Roxy Threads mate!!

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