Once Upon A Time In Wigan Who Did It?

[Paul-s]

....I was listening to XFm yesterday and one of my friends rang me to say that the play I directed and produced, 'Once Upon A Time In Wigan' was being highlighted on a 'Soul' show!! The writer and two of the actors were live on air! How could this be I replied? I live in Manchester. 'Puss' (cant use his real name!ha) has my number......no one mentioned it to me! I then sat through a program where 'Puss' talked about the play as if it had suddenly appeared on stage! No mention of the fact that it was a collaboration; the use of film, the soundtrack, teaching the actors to dance, the financing and losing money, the 'soul' of it, was down to me!! forgot my giving him scores of free tickets etc, etc. I am normally very quiet and seldom speak out, BUT I am appalled and hurt by the fact that, when the play was on, 'Puss' knew my number well, when it came to tickets etc. Ironic that the three people he had on had never been to Wigan!! Whats going on!? Could it be he is promoting something? Has he lost my number? He had it a couple of months ago, when he asked me to teach some teenagers to dance! HE even said that if a film comes out 'motown' are up for doing the soundtrack! f*** off! He cant remember most of what was played at Wigan, because I keep hearing him play same 50 records over and over again! It was'nt all Motown mate! In fact, where the f*** were Motown when I had no money to put the play on? When I had to re-mortgage my flat in order to go into rehearsal? Get a life and create something yourself! Trying to commandere the play and excluding the 'soulboy' who put his 'life' and 'soul' into it, shows how callous and commercial, your attitude to the 'soul' scene really is!! It worked because it was 'honest' and true. I am, in fact, still paying off the debt from the last tour!.....me, no one else! Which is fine. Apart from when prats choose to forget the truth! The crowning moment was when, at the end of the show, 'Puss' invited all the actors, by name and the writer, to go and see Dean Parrish when he is on. Somehow forgot the name of the guy who gave 3 years, 'full time', of his life towards creating 'Once Upon A Time In Wigan'. I even texted the show, but as of yet, no reply! Truly disgusting!

PAUL-S (Paul Sadot)

[steve z]

Hi Paul,really pisses me off this.I know you organised everything and wrote and produced this very successful programme up and down the UK.........I do remember YOU selling the ORIGINAL SET on ebay....keep it real...........loads of tossers out in the world..lets keep playing everything that everybody knows ........ATB Stevie

[ockers]

sorry to read all that paul

saw the play in Preston

it was fabulous and thank many thanks for putting it on

never went to wigan but it seemed to pay it a wonderful tribute particularly the story of the bogs!!!!

id go again tomorrow if it was on close by

chesneys sister was great!!!!!

sorry to read what has has happened

Sean O'Connor

www.seasidesoul.co.uk

[Baz Atkinson]

....I was listening to XFm yesterday and one of my friends rang me to say that the play I directed and produced, 'Once Upon A Time In Wigan' was being highlighted on a 'Soul' show!! The writer and two of the actors were live on air! How could this be I replied? I live in Manchester. 'Puss' (cant use his real name!ha) has my number......no one mentioned it to me! I then sat through a program where 'Puss' talked about the play as if it had suddenly appeared on stage! No mention of the fact that it was a collaboration; the use of film, the soundtrack, teaching the actors to dance, the financing and losing money, the 'soul' of it, was down to me!! forgot my giving him scores of free tickets etc, etc. I am normally very quiet and seldom speak out, BUT I am appalled and hurt by the fact that, when the play was on, 'Puss' knew my number well, when it came to tickets etc. Ironic that the three people he had on had never been to Wigan!! Whats going on!? Could it be he is promoting something? Has he lost my number? He had it a couple of months ago, when he asked me to teach some teenagers to dance! HE even said that if a film comes out 'motown' are up for doing the soundtrack! f*** off! He cant remember most of what was played at Wigan, because I keep hearing him play same 50 records over and over again! It was'nt all Motown mate! In fact, where the f*** were Motown when I had no money to put the play on? When I had to re-mortgage my flat in order to go into rehearsal? Get a life and create something yourself! Trying to commandere the play and excluding the 'soulboy' who put his 'life' and 'soul' into it, shows how callous and commercial, your attitude to the 'soul' scene really is!! It worked because it was 'honest' and true. I am, in fact, still paying off the debt from the last tour!.....me, no one else! Which is fine. Apart from when prats choose to forget the truth! The crowning moment was when, at the end of the show, 'Puss' invited all the actors, by name and the writer, to go and see Dean Parrish when he is on. Somehow forgot the name of the guy who gave 3 years, 'full time', of his life towards creating 'Once Upon A Time In Wigan'. I even texted the show, but as of yet, no reply! Truly disgusting!

PAUL-S (Paul Sadot)

YOU GOTMY SUPPORT PAUL,SEE YOU AT NEXT SOUL OR NOTHING.

BAZ ATKINSON NORTH EAST.

[Paulb]

....I was listening to XFm yesterday and one of my friends rang me to say that the play I directed and produced, 'Once Upon A Time In Wigan' was being highlighted on a 'Soul' show!! The writer and two of the actors were live on air! How could this be I replied? I live in Manchester. 'Puss' (cant use his real name!ha) has my number......no one mentioned it to me! I then sat through a program where 'Puss' talked about the play as if it had suddenly appeared on stage! No mention of the fact that it was a collaboration; the use of film, the soundtrack, teaching the actors to dance, the financing and losing money, the 'soul' of it, was down to me!! forgot my giving him scores of free tickets etc, etc. I am normally very quiet and seldom speak out, BUT I am appalled and hurt by the fact that, when the play was on, 'Puss' knew my number well, when it came to tickets etc. Ironic that the three people he had on had never been to Wigan!! Whats going on!? Could it be he is promoting something? Has he lost my number? He had it a couple of months ago, when he asked me to teach some teenagers to dance! HE even said that if a film comes out 'motown' are up for doing the soundtrack! f*** off! He cant remember most of what was played at Wigan, because I keep hearing him play same 50 records over and over again! It was'nt all Motown mate! In fact, where the f*** were Motown when I had no money to put the play on? When I had to re-mortgage my flat in order to go into rehearsal? Get a life and create something yourself! Trying to commandere the play and excluding the 'soulboy' who put his 'life' and 'soul' into it, shows how callous and commercial, your attitude to the 'soul' scene really is!! It worked because it was 'honest' and true. I am, in fact, still paying off the debt from the last tour!.....me, no one else! Which is fine. Apart from when prats choose to forget the truth! The crowning moment was when, at the end of the show, 'Puss' invited all the actors, by name and the writer, to go and see Dean Parrish when he is on. Somehow forgot the name of the guy who gave 3 years, 'full time', of his life towards creating 'Once Upon A Time In Wigan'. I even texted the show, but as of yet, no reply! Truly disgusting!

PAUL-S (Paul Sadot)

Thats stinks mate. Got to be a real kick in the teeth.

[Billywhizz]

....I was listening to XFm yesterday and one of my friends rang me to say that the play I directed and produced, 'Once Upon A Time In Wigan' was being highlighted on a 'Soul' show!! The writer and two of the actors were live on air! How could this be I replied? I live in Manchester. 'Puss' (cant use his real name!ha) has my number......no one mentioned it to me! I then sat through a program where 'Puss' talked about the play as if it had suddenly appeared on stage! No mention of the fact that it was a collaboration; the use of film, the soundtrack, teaching the actors to dance, the financing and losing money, the 'soul' of it, was down to me!! forgot my giving him scores of free tickets etc, etc. I am normally very quiet and seldom speak out, BUT I am appalled and hurt by the fact that, when the play was on, 'Puss' knew my number well, when it came to tickets etc. Ironic that the three people he had on had never been to Wigan!! Whats going on!? Could it be he is promoting something? Has he lost my number? He had it a couple of months ago, when he asked me to teach some teenagers to dance! HE even said that if a film comes out 'motown' are up for doing the soundtrack! f*** off! He cant remember most of what was played at Wigan, because I keep hearing him play same 50 records over and over again! It was'nt all Motown mate! In fact, where the f*** were Motown when I had no money to put the play on? When I had to re-mortgage my flat in order to go into rehearsal? Get a life and create something yourself! Trying to commandere the play and excluding the 'soulboy' who put his 'life' and 'soul' into it, shows how callous and commercial, your attitude to the 'soul' scene really is!! It worked because it was 'honest' and true. I am, in fact, still paying off the debt from the last tour!.....me, no one else! Which is fine. Apart from when prats choose to forget the truth! The crowning moment was when, at the end of the show, 'Puss' invited all the actors, by name and the writer, to go and see Dean Parrish when he is on. Somehow forgot the name of the guy who gave 3 years, 'full time', of his life towards creating 'Once Upon A Time In Wigan'. I even texted the show, but as of yet, no reply! Truly disgusting!

PAUL-S (Paul Sadot)

Great show Paul this puss sounds a bit of a penis breath it must really piss you off was the show recorded on film if so what about doing dvds and getting some royaltys back on it

[mischief]

Great show Paul this puss sounds a bit of a penis breath it must really piss you off was the show recorded on film if so what about doing dvds and getting some royaltys back on it

good call on the dvd front maybe get a few bob back as well..

[Simsy]

British Theatre Guide seem to know the score;

Although Mick Martin is credited as the writer, this is very much director Paul Sadot's story. He tells in the programme of his own experiences in the 1970s at "all-nighters" around the country, including Wigan, which are recreated in the play. Sadot's enthusiasm for these days and the Northern Soul scene come through very clearly in the play, the programme notes, the leaflets and the web site dedicated to the play.

Well received and appreciated. I thought it was great!

Edited June 6, 2006 by Simsy

[Guest Bearsoul]

BRILLIANT PLAY PAUL...YOU HAVE A RIGHT TO BE AGRIEVED..LOOKING FORWARD TO FINDING OUT WHO PUSS IS AND SEEING HOW THE RECORD CAN BE PUT STRAIGHT...HE NEEDS TO LOOK TO HIMSELF...OBVIOUSLY PUSS HAS BECOME TOO BIG FOR HIS BOOTS !!!!!!!!!!!!!!

[Dave]

He's well out of order Paul. I for one hope he gets his come-uppance!!

[Guest Bearsy]

HI PAUL,

I never had the pleasure of seeing the play but have only heard great things about it,

i for one would love to have it on dvd and no doubt thousands of others would too,

you deserve something back from it and not a hang on leech basking in the glory you and only you created, head up life is too short, keep the faith as they say.

Bearsy.

[Paul-s]

BRILLIANT PLAY PAUL...YOU HAVE A RIGHT TO BE AGRIEVED..LOOKING FORWARD TO FINDING OUT WHO PUSS IS AND SEEING HOW THE RECORD CAN BE PUT STRAIGHT...HE NEEDS TO LOOK TO HIMSELF...OBVIOUSLY PUSS HAS BECOME TOO BIG FOR HIS BOOTS !!!!!!!!!!!!!!

TO set the record straight Im not ranting at Mick Martin here!

'PUSS' is the guy who ran the Casino and now has a radio show!! Change the first letter !

His surname begins with the opposite of 'to lose' and ends in Stanley!!

thanks for the support! PAUL-S

[Guest ShaneH]

TO set the record straight Im not ranting at Mick Martin here!

'PUSS' is the guy who ran the Casino and now has a radio show!! Change the first letter !

His surname begins with the opposite of 'to lose' and ends in Stanley!!

thanks for the support! PAUL-S

anymore clues Paul cos I am struggling??

seriously I wish you the best. I enjoyed the play thoroughly and never heard a bad word said about it

Shane

[Val (Chunky)]

For what it's worth Paul a bunch of us went to see the play twice, once in Manchester and then again in Coventry (give yourself a big pat on the back). I thought it was a great play with some really funny moments that were very true to life back in the day. I can never understand these people who ride on the back of others.......to achieve something in this life is hard enough.......give credit where it's due!

Val

[Guest]

For what it's worth Paul a bunch of us went to see the play twice, once in Manchester and then again in Coventry (give yourself a big pat on the back). I thought it was a great play with some really funny moments that were very true to life back in the day. I can never understand these people who ride on the back of others.......to achieve something in this life is hard enough.......give credit where it's due!

Val

It's pretty blooming poor when people do stuff like this, makes me sick really

I also enjoyed the play Paul

[Mark Bicknell]

I'll say it then Russ Winstanley....there you go, contributes nothing, lived on the back of Wigan Casino for the past 23 years, has sod all in common with me or most on the scene, 'Richard' was the Casino enough said!!!!......this stinks Paul i know how much commitment, love and dedication you put in with the play this is a sad reflection of a little man's inflated ego constantly milking and taking credit for everything connected with that eight year period, your play caputured the time perfectly and did not look through rose tinted glasses at the subject as certain books have done in the past, credit where credit is due mate i say, oh and if any consellation everyone knows it was your baby, talent and hard work that produced a wondeful insight in social history, do we care what he thinks,says or does no indeed we don't..........oh and i think you will find the Frank Wilson played at Wigan was infact owned by Les McCutchen, see what i mean rose tinted glasses, say it enough and they actually believe it's true.

Regards - Mark Bicknell.

[Little-stevie]

Sad indeed but not a surprise at all....Keep the faith my arse

Lets hope you get to see mr Wigan and sort it out ...

Edited June 6, 2006 by little-stevie

[Guest trickbag]

never seen this play/show myself,have read about it on here many times,

all positive, by all acounts, sorry to here someone (dj)

stole your credit,

think hed know better,remember wot gos around comes around and one day,soon i hope, you'l get your just reward.

[Guest Soultown andy]

Wouldnt worry to much about what that clown winstanley says ,if you remember last year he was sueing me for 30 grand still waiting to here from his legal team[his words].The play was brilliant at times made the hairs stand up on the back of your neck i think most people know who the credit goes to,a job well done .

[Guest carolyn]

....I was listening to XFm yesterday and one of my friends rang me to say that the play I directed and produced, 'Once Upon A Time In Wigan' was being highlighted on a 'Soul' show!! The writer and two of the actors were live on air! How could this be I replied? I live in Manchester. 'Puss' (cant use his real name!ha) has my number......no one mentioned it to me! I then sat through a program where 'Puss' talked about the play as if it had suddenly appeared on stage! No mention of the fact that it was a collaboration; the use of film, the soundtrack, teaching the actors to dance, the financing and losing money, the 'soul' of it, was down to me!! forgot my giving him scores of free tickets etc, etc. I am normally very quiet and seldom speak out, BUT I am appalled and hurt by the fact that, when the play was on, 'Puss' knew my number well, when it came to tickets etc. Ironic that the three people he had on had never been to Wigan!! Whats going on!? Could it be he is promoting something? Has he lost my number? He had it a couple of months ago, when he asked me to teach some teenagers to dance! HE even said that if a film comes out 'motown' are up for doing the soundtrack! f*** off! He cant remember most of what was played at Wigan, because I keep hearing him play same 50 records over and over again! It was'nt all Motown mate! In fact, where the f*** were Motown when I had no money to put the play on? When I had to re-mortgage my flat in order to go into rehearsal? Get a life and create something yourself! Trying to commandere the play and excluding the 'soulboy' who put his 'life' and 'soul' into it, shows how callous and commercial, your attitude to the 'soul' scene really is!! It worked because it was 'honest' and true. I am, in fact, still paying off the debt from the last tour!.....me, no one else! Which is fine. Apart from when prats choose to forget the truth! The crowning moment was when, at the end of the show, 'Puss' invited all the actors, by name and the writer, to go and see Dean Parrish when he is on. Somehow forgot the name of the guy who gave 3 years, 'full time', of his life towards creating 'Once Upon A Time In Wigan'. I even texted the show, but as of yet, no reply! Truly disgusting!

PAUL-S (Paul Sadot)

I saw the play at Lowton Civic Hall. It was brill, the memories came flooding back!

You must be fuming, someone else claiming the glory for all your hard work.

I am sure the person falsely claiming the credit will get their come uppence!

Carolyn

[Guest Jimmy Scriv]

I saw the play at The Grand Theatre Blackpool and thought it was excellent.

Never forgave Russ for The theme from Joe 90.

Chin up Paul

[Paul R]

Saw the play in 2004 in Southampton, and thought it was fantastic and the memories came flooding back. In 2005 I saw it again in Portsmouth, and it was even better. Who would have thought that a play can bring back so many memories. Oh and Russ, just a fat c*nt IMHO of course

Paul

Good luck Paul

[Guest Matt Male]

I saw it in Coventry Paul and it was superb, especially the dancers. If you had a hand in teaching the Coventry actors then well done mate, they could have been on the scene for years.

Even my wife loved it, and she hates northern..

[Pete S]

good call on the dvd front maybe get a few bob back as well..

I suggested that to you 2 years ago, I could sell hundreds of them!

Actually I already have, sorry.

Bloke keeps walking in front of the camera but apart from that, great quality.

(JOKING!) I never got to see it...

[soulfulsaint]

Paul - You already know that I have great respect for the show, the script and the investment you have put into it. Stick in there. Feel pride more than anger.

All the best Stuart Cosgrove

[Modernsoulsucks]

The wife went to see the play with her ex-husband and it brought back so many memories for them both,they're thinking of getting back together. I can't thank you enough!!

ROD

PS They both loved it. Rest was wishful thinking.