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Elsie Dickson - What's The Deal?


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anyone know what the story is with this record / singer? is elsie a transvestite? an unusual real woman? i quickly googled and couldn't find any info.

 

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3-plPRFlJko

 

also, do people really think the record is "great" and "fantastic"? nothing to do with the gender of the singer, it's just not that good singing and production. does it have some sort of history on the scene?

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i know of some history of drag performers (e.g. the ones with rudy ray moore) but not ones who attempted to record real original music singles

 

phil medley wrote "twist and shout" apparently and isn't famous for that much else. would love to know more backstory.

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Hi,

Thats my utube clip above and I know nothing about the 45.

All I know is the 1st time my wife heard the track she advised (!) me nicely to buy it because she liked it.

I've played it out a couple of times and Errol Green also has a copy.

David

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i know of some history of drag performers (e.g. the ones with rudy ray moore) but not ones who attempted to record real original music singles

 

phil medley wrote "twist and shout" apparently and isn't famous for that much else. would love to know more backstory.

 

Bob , you're into the All Platinum label, are you aware of this LP on its Snake Eyes label subsidiary ?

 

https://www.popsike.com/PEARL-BOX-REVUE-2LP-Call-Me-MISSter-SEALED-Dorian-Corey/260694979850.html

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sure i was told it had something to do with

 

tranny in hairspray

 

dont care about that -- but not keen on the record to be fair

 

it's not divine from hairspray, i got a photo of elsie dickson, it's an old dude, divine would have been early 20s.

 

re: the all platinum comedy record, I actually have that because i have a Black comedy LP collection (also have lots of rudy ray moore related transvestite things) but it's not the same thing (this is someone trying to do a real song, not trying to act nasty) and I don't collect all platinum LPs. Thanks for the link though, it is a weird record.

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Jackie Shane would qualify, I guess.

You're not trying to suggest Jackie dressed strangely are you ?????????

......... can't believe that at all & he looks normal here (surely) ...........  :D

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yUYW2iwimBw

 

I believe that Canadian TV broadcast a documentary show on him & his career around 3 years back -- 'I Got Mine: The Story Of Jackie Shane'

....... you are supposed to be able to view it here ......

........... https://www.cbc.ca/player/RADIO+HOLDING+PEN/Inside+the+Music/ID/1573058286/?sort=MostPopular

...but it woun't play for me .......anyone here get to see it ?

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whoa, i actually always assumed he was really masculine for some reason, I mainly know "in my tenement". He's also singing about being a "poor boy" and talking about his girl. I don't think he's a true cross dresser, just very effeminate, e.g., not trying to pass as a woman. Reminds me of tony washington of the dynamic superiors. either way, really interesting.

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whoa, i actually always assumed he was really masculine for some reason, I mainly know "in my tenement". He's also singing about being a "poor boy" and talking about his girl. I don't think he's a true cross dresser, just very effeminate, e.g., not trying to pass as a woman. Reminds me of tony washington of the dynamic superiors. either way, really interesting.

I think you may be wrong there Bob.

There's a Canadian web site that I recently visited (though I can't find it today) that had loads of info on the 60's Toronto music scene.

Up on that was a photo of Jackie on stage and he's fully rigged out in womens clothes (with that 'Diana Ross type glamorous' look). 

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Cleveland / Florida / Jamaica based Jerri Jones (a twist here as she was a woman who dressed as a man) ....

..... Jerry / Jerri was close friends with Kim Tolliver, so I wonder if Jerri also 'hooked up' with Billy Wells down in Florida ?

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i know of some history of drag performers (e.g. the ones with rudy ray moore) but not ones who attempted to record real original music singles

 

phil medley wrote "twist and shout" apparently and isn't famous for that much else. would love to know more backstory.

Phil did some very good soul productions including Frank Dell, Pat Lundy, Dee Dee Warwick and the Quotations which I'd bet you're already a fan of

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Sold one copy of 2 to Errol a year or so ago, nice track, I was undecided about the voice, a female Roy Hamilton, or a male Elsie Dickson, not sure which, but it leads on nicely to Phil Terrell - Love has passed me by - Carnival..., never been sure!

Phil was a school teacher in Jersey for many years and I'm pretty sure lead a conventional life. Check out his other Carnival sides, great records and I don't think he sounds particularly feminine on them.

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I think you may be wrong there Bob.

There's a Canadian web site that I recently visited (though I can't find it today) that had loads of info on the 60's Toronto music scene.

Up on that was a photo of Jackie on stage and he's fully rigged out in womens clothes (with that 'Diana Ross type glamorous' look). 

 

doesn't really contradict what i said above

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