Roburt Posted July 21, 2013 Posted July 21, 2013 As a spin off from the Charay based existing thread (Rita Lee) ........... ... thought I'd ask a question or two about Pic & Bill's Charay releases. The duo's 45's were put out in the UK, France, Spain & Italy for sure (how about Germany too ?). My 1st Question is ... anyone know just how many French 45 releases they had ? There were a few put out with similar picture sleeves. Many of the sleeves didn't list the actual tracks on the front but featured a No. instead. I know there were sleeves that had the numbers 3,4 & 7 on them; but were the missing numbers in that series (1, 2, 5, 6, etc) also P&B 45's?
Roburt Posted July 21, 2013 Author Posted July 21, 2013 (edited) ........... Pic & Bill French 45's ............ Soul Records SR 1 -- The Soul Of a Man / Don't Leave Me Soul Records SR 4 -- This Is My Story / Nobody But My Baby Soul Records SR 5 -- Funny How Time Slips Away / Gonna Give It To You Soul Records SR 7 -- ??? / Talk About Love How many Italian 45 releases did they enjoy (1 ?) and what about their Spanish 7"ers, I know they had at least 1 x 45 + a 7" EP release there (the single being on Belter, the EP on Fontana). Strangely their Fontana EP was identified as being a release that was 'directly from England' so it must have been licensed via Page One. Edited July 21, 2013 by Roburt
Rom1 Posted July 21, 2013 Posted July 21, 2013 Hi Roburt, Here are few missing numbers of French 45's Soul Records label discography : Soul Records SR 2 - Pic & Bill - All I want is you / It's not you Soul records SR 3 - Bruce Channel - Hey baby 1968 / Onley in name Soul records SR 6 - Eddie Floyd - Bye bye baby / Never get enough of your love Soul Records SR 7 - Pic & Bill - Something's wrong with my baby / Talk about love Soul Records SR 8 - Prince Buster - Young gifted and black / The rebel Soul Records SR 10 - Duffy - Rock solid / Tell me Soul Records SR 13 - The Smoke - Jack is back / That's what I want Soul Records SR 14 - The Smoke - Sugarman / Like a good man should Note that Pic & Bill SR 5 "Gonna give it you" is not the version originaly issued on Blue Rock in USA, it's an alternate take (very different) Cheers Romain 1
Philippe Posted July 21, 2013 Posted July 21, 2013 Hi Roburt, here's a link with the FIVE Pic & Bill French 45's : https://45vinylvidivici.net/SEVENTIESARTISTES45%20%28NZ%29/PIC%20AND%20BILL.html 1
Guest Paul Posted July 21, 2013 Posted July 21, 2013 I have these UK issues: Pic & Bill - All I Want Is You / It's Not You (Page One POF 024) released 19/05/67 Pic & Bill - This Is It / Nobody But My Baby (Page One POF 037) released 01/09/67 Pic & Bill - Sad World Without You / Just A Tear (Page One POF 052) (promo) released 26/01/68 I'm not sure if that's all they had issued in the UK. Paul
Sebastian Posted July 22, 2013 Posted July 22, 2013 The duo's 45's were put out in the UK, France, Spain & Italy for sure (how about Germany too ?). Yes, Germany as well. At least one 45 on Metronome: Pic & Bill - Just A Tear / Sad World Without You - METRONOME M 25019 See scans below. Another bizarre thing is that there was a famous swedish artist that covered "Sad World Without You" in 1969. Was only released on an EP featuring three other artists as well (one of them Downliners Sect with a unique tune, only released on that swedish EP). 1
Rom1 Posted July 23, 2013 Posted July 23, 2013 Here are the French LP on Soul Records SR LP 1001 (which also came out on Spanish Belter) & Their other French 45 on Decca ("Sad world without you / Just a tear")
Benji Posted July 23, 2013 Posted July 23, 2013 (edited) There's another german release by Pic & Bill on Ariola. Will add details once I found it. I'm not even sure I have it though I can picture label and sleeve in my mind. Need more sleep.... Edit: The soul of a man lp came out in germany too. Edited July 23, 2013 by Benji
Philippe Posted July 23, 2013 Posted July 23, 2013 Edit: The soul of a man lp came out in germany too. With the same titles order than the French one ? Did you notice our Blue's side / Jerk's side ? It was typical of the French Lp's of the era, with the slow tracks on one side and the fast ones on the other, like the Rhythm & Blues Formidable serie. Not a bad thing during the "surprise-parties" !
Roburt Posted July 23, 2013 Author Posted July 23, 2013 Here are the French LP on Soul Records SR LP 1001 (which also came out on Spanish Belter) & Their other French 45 on Decca ("Sad world without you / Just a tear") Yes, I have a copy of their French Decca 45 .... always loved the picture cover.
Benji Posted July 24, 2013 Posted July 24, 2013 (edited) With the same titles order than the French one ? Did you notice our Blue's side / Jerk's side ? It was typical of the French Lp's of the era, with the slow tracks on one side and the fast ones on the other, like the Rhythm & Blues Formidable serie. Not a bad thing during the "surprise-parties" ! Same tracks I think but different order. Also, it's called "Thirty minutes of soul", got the titles mixed up. sorry! A1 All I Want Is You A2 Something's Wrong With My Baby A3 How Many Times A4 You Walk So Fine A5 Don't Leave Me A6 Talk About Love B1 The Soul Of A Man B2 A Woman Has A Way With A Man B3 It's Not You B4 This Is It B5 Baby Come Back B6 Nobody But My Baby Here are the details of the german Ariola 7": All I want is you/It's not you - Ariola 19554 As it happens I don't have it any longer. I used to have it but sold it before I started collecting german labels. Edited July 24, 2013 by Benji
Philippe Posted July 24, 2013 Posted July 24, 2013 Same tracks I think but different order. Also, it's called "Thirty minutes of soul", got the titles mixed up. sorry! A1 All I Want Is You A2 Something's Wrong With My Baby A3 How Many Times A4 You Walk So Fine A5 Don't Leave Me A6 Talk About Love B1 The Soul Of A Man B2 A Woman Has A Way With A Man B3 It's Not You B4 This Is It B5 Baby Come Back B6 Nobody But My Baby Thanks Benji, the "slow side/fast side" was typical on French albums. I just saw it was released in Italy, too : https://www.discogs.com/Pic-Bill-Thirty-Minutes-Of-Soul/release/4589466 Is it the same cover as the german LP ?
Benji Posted July 24, 2013 Posted July 24, 2013 Philippe, discogs info is wrong. Release country is Germany. Cover shown is the german one. The little text underneath Vibraton logo is german.
Roburt Posted July 24, 2013 Author Posted July 24, 2013 Why would a German record label use a generic 'black guy' picture for the cover of a LP by a soul duo -- Pic & Bill. It makes no sense at all, especially as Major Bill seemed to be sourcing Euro record companies with multiple decent pics of P&B back then. Guess someone at Vibration was just very lazy.
Philippe Posted July 24, 2013 Posted July 24, 2013 (edited) Philippe, discogs info is wrong. Release country is Germany. Cover shown is the german one. The little text underneath Vibraton logo is german. Thanks Benji, in fact in their description they say the liners are in German (?). Edited July 24, 2013 by Philippe
Benji Posted July 24, 2013 Posted July 24, 2013 Why would a German record label use a generic 'black guy' picture for the cover of a LP by a soul duo -- Pic & Bill. It makes no sense at all, especially as Major Bill seemed to be sourcing Euro record companies with multiple decent pics of P&B back then. Guess someone at Vibration was just very lazy. Vibraton was just a low budget label that released stuff across the board, i.e. soul, classic, jazz, swing, german schlager, what have you. They weren't a major label. Most german labels used pictures of the actual artists. Yet quite often they used generic pictures. Sometimes not even of a black singer but a white singer/band.
Rom1 Posted July 24, 2013 Posted July 24, 2013 B5 Baby Come Back Superb track... LP only, I believe https://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_detailpage&v=MuX6W6AX0ls
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