Three Oaks Label

[Reforee]

Right the lets be having you as Delilah Smith would say

Need info on the above label out of New Orleans..... Don't want the typical wise cracks due to the flooding, as this label was pretty obscure before that, and I don't usaully go public in looking for info or product , but phew this is a label that is beating this dinosaur!

Only have 2 on the label and have at least 6 people looking for one of those releases which is becoming a bit popular among the deep/real soul crowd

TIA

Dave H

[Roburt]

Info here on the Electrostats Three Oaks 45 ... https://funky16corners.blogspot.co.uk/2006/03/electrostats-21st-century-kenya.html

Plus more info towards the bottom of this page ......... https://desosquichante.blogspot.co.uk/

.................. 45 label scans on both pages.

Seems Eddie Bo & Walter 'Wolfman' Washington (https://www.walterwolfmanwashington.com/bio.html) were also hooked up with the label.

More info on Walter Washington here ....PLUS a mention for Katrina (but not the flooding it caused) ...

......... https://redkelly.blogspot.co.uk/2005/10/walter-wolfman-washington-and-solar.html

 

Walter's "Sun Ain't Gonna Shine" song was written by Kim Joseph and assigned (& now co-composer registered with BMI) to Edddie Bo's publishing company. The labels in-house publishing company seems to have been Romulin, though BMI no longer hold details on that outfit.

I'd guess that the (musician) members of the Electrostats were Tony Morel, F Bua,A Torre & D Watson (they wrote one of the band's songs) and that the group's publishing was via Golden Puma & Mempro (again details on those publishers no longer held by BMI).

Would also guess that the Tony Morel who co-wrote the group's songs and also arranged their tracks is the guy listed in the obit below. If that is the case, then his family originally came from Phoenix, moved to Baton Rouge, then New Orleans and he eventually settled in Lewisburg (just across Lake Pontchartrain from New Orleans).

Mr. Glen Morel, 53, of Lewisburg, Tenn., died Saturday, June 4, 2011, at Maury Regional Medical Center. He was born in Phoenix, however he lived in Baton Rouge until 1986. Mr. Morel was a son of the late Paul Joseph Morel, and Frances Morel, who survives him. He was self-employed as a carpenter-owner of Glen Morel Construction Co. In addition to his father, he was preceded in death by his brother, Donald Morel. Survived by sons, Joel Morel and Mike Taylor, of Lewisburg, and Billy Brown, of Murfreesboro, Tenn.; a sister, Pam Morel Giauque, of Baton Rouge; three brothers, Tony Morel, of Lewisburg, David Morel, of Denham Springs, and Ronald Morel, of New Orleans

Edited July 7, 2013 by Roburt

[Roburt]

As always (of course), a Sirshambling site page has a more info on artists who had releases on the label ..........

https://www.sirshambling.com/artists_2012/E/electrostats/index.php

 

Listen to "I'm Not Gonna Hurt You No More" there (you'll not be disappointed even though it sounds as if Hillery wasn't the best vocalist in the world).

Edited July 7, 2013 by Roburt

[Roburt]

Seems that in more recent times, a McGinnis family from Jonesville, LA (including a Hillary McGinnis Jr) have been in the news a bit.

Jonesville is a small town located about 100 miles NW of New Orleans.

Good chance that the family there are (were) related to the lady who sang back in the day with the Electrostats. 

[Chalky]

Whilst I have the R&B Indies out...4 releases.

 

100 Walter "Wolfman" Washington - (You Give Me) Heavenly Vibrations/Sun Ain't Gonna Shine

 

101 Electrostats - 21st Century Kenya/Weak As You Want To Be

 

102 Electrostats - Setting The Mood/??

 

??? James Booker - Next Time You See Me/??

[Reforee]

Yeah

Thanks guys the Electostats and Walter Washington releases are basically the ground stone of most info but nothing as to wether this is basically it or if there is more?

The WW release is the tune and like loads of records you have owned for a while, its not till you play it out or nowadays CD it, that you really become aware how rare/obscure or better still,how lucky you are to own a copy that you realise what a gem you have!

Like some of my pet labels, I tend to form a mental lightbulb on when I see them in the flesh or in print.

Eventually , trying to keep a low profile in your world,(until you gleem all the available info on it ) reaches its limits and you have to start asking fellow collectors, dealers etc. but when those olive branches reach dead ends, its either give up or "let the cat out of the bag" as your secretive collecting mental status would put it.

Must admit Chalky not heard of the James Booker? And that leaves you with a mental dilemma. Is it a rare/hard to find as the others? if so does that just compound your already frustrating collecting status or put a fresh spring in your step?

Must admit James Booker...........sounds pretty damn interesting????.? ........ah well can't waste time here E chatting..records to find! See ya when I get back on.

DAVE

[Chalky]

The james Booker is on a 2000 LP release...

 

https://www.discogs.com/James-Booker-More-Than-All-The-Funky-45s/release/762873

[Roburt]

Those James Booker tracks (on the LP) came from the Duke / Peacock vaults and just about all seem to date from 1960 to 1963. I guess that when he was signed to Peacock at that time, he cut more tracks (in NO,La or Houston) than the label ever got around to releasing. Many of his Peacock tracks seems to be paced to fit a big dance from 1960, the Madison.  

I'd bet that he went into the 21st Century Studios in NO,La around 1970 and speck cut that track ("Next Time I See You") and with no label having yet licensed the track for release, they sent it to his old label (Duke / Peacock) to see if they were interested. If that was the case, then a tape containing a copy of that tune would have ended up in the Duke vaults along with all his other earlier tracks.

So, prior to the release of the LP, his cut may not have escaped in any form (on Three Oaks or Duke).

Anyone heard "Next Time I See You" and can say whether it sounds like a 1960/61/62 cut or a 1970 cut ?

Of course, it could just be a slightly re-titled version of Little Jr Parker's "Next Time You See Me" (Duke; 1956). 

Edited July 7, 2013 by Roburt