Bobby Womack At Glastonbury

[macca]

well,...how come i missed that?, i watched the broadcast from 10.30 on bbc2 and the first thing i heard was  miss you.....i know we can't have it all, but claiming to broadcast it live and then showing an obvious recording ( well it looked like it was recorded to  me ) is taking the proverbial....GGGGGRRRRRRR!!  apart from that gripe, they were great.

 

 

 

Yeah. Seems like Mick was making a conscious effort to sing well too. They sound so 'kin tight. Mick Taylor was on form too.

Edited June 30, 2013 by macca

[MrsWoodsrules]

Alabama Shakes were great, that lead singer is very soulful & uber talented.

Im now a fan.

[Agentsmith]

well?.......so do we all think that the real BOBBY WOMACK is gonna stand up and we'll "hear him".....surely he's still got a song in his heart and his voice is gonna bang out...yeah?...or are we all gonna be subdued??,...this is a living legend we're talking about...he's how old?,...bobby bland ( god bless him ) was still kickin' it til just recently, a good few years older than bw mind,...still bearing in mind what i said in previous post about the long term effects of abuse of the vocal chords, he wouldn't be there, if the franchise didn't think he would cut it....i remember being told years ago about marvin smith and well after he had dispensed of his duties with the artistics and that he just croaked...well everyone is entitled to their opinions though i personally would respect the words of someone i knew to be a frequent attendee of any gig that featured someone or a group of the soulful variety. mccartney at the olympics was virtually screeching it out and elton didn't impress either...a lot of folk were embarrassed about that as well.....so,....best to judge after the event eh?

Edited June 30, 2013 by AGENTSMITH

[Ted Massey]

The Strypes did and acoustic set and they were so like the Stones I remember in the 60's they fookin awesome and the harmonica player was brill think they are all 15 or 16 and are opening for the Arctic Monkeys soon

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gZb8nEemK2k

[Jaco]

Mumford and Sons - uniquely perfect for closing out on a Sunday evening at Glastonbury.

 

Inspired.

[Guest Cluggy]

Bobby Womack one word Awesome

[Petebangor]

Bobby is in fine voice :-). He is a legend.

Altrina sounding pretty good too

Edited June 30, 2013 by petebangor

[Guest Cluggy]

Going to bed bed two hours later than normal for a Sunday night but god how good was that ,like Peter said a legend

[Guest Dave Turner]

A catch up on Bobby if ya missed it

 

https://www.bbc.co.uk/iplayer/episode/p01c4n4v/Glastonbury_2013_Bobby_Womack_Glastonbury_2013/

[Dave Thorley]

'Tin hat time' and strange comin' from me as I've banged on so much in the past on here about Bobby and his music.

 

last night he was a shadow of his past self and performances. Think it's more of a shame that all this wider adoration didn't come a few years earlier. The man has been one of the greats for most of his career, but only now are people taking notice.

 

Yes he is a legend and the content of the set was legendary, but he is an old man now and it showed. If only a wider audience had been given a chance to hear him back in say the mid 80's. I generally have a problem with these type of events putting on legends way to late in their careers. 'Oh so and so may not be round much longer, let put him on'. Yes he deserves all the adoration he is getting, but why so late. Why am I so angry ?, because these type of events don't showcase the great soul music which I love in a great light to a wider audience.

 

Don't want to throw cold water on 'The Man's' moment in the limelight, the music he recorded will always be a testament to his greatness.

[Jim Ohara]

Must agree with you 100% Dave on this

I haven't seen this Glastonberry set yet, but watched him on Jonathan Ross a couple of months back and really didnt thing he was great at all - he looked like an old man, which he obviously is, but I just felt un comfortable watching him for some reason - especially when he got helped on stage

Thought it was also kind of sad, as he clearly wasn't in great health

My mate also saw him a few weeks ago in Sydney, said that although he still "had it" at times, he was struggling a bit - he even stumbled when he came on stage

I dont know if i would actually go and see him now - I only ever saw him one, which was on the Poet tour in 1984 (with altrna grayson) it was the best thing ever, and I would prefer to remember him that way

Still an absolute legend, but as you say Dave, why the fuck has it taken so so long for him to get recognised??

Jim

[Dave Thorley]

Must agree with you 100% Dave on this

I haven't seen this Glastonberry set yet, but watched him on Jonathan Ross a couple of months back and really didnt thing he was great at all - he looked like an old man, which he obviously is, but I just felt un comfortable watching him for some reason - especially when he got helped on stage

Thought it was also kind of sad, as he clearly wasn't in great health

My mate also saw him a few weeks ago in Sydney, said that although he still "had it" at times, he was struggling a bit - he even stumbled when he came on stage

I dont know if i would actually go and see him now - I only ever saw him one, which was on the Poet tour in 1984 (with altrna grayson) it was the best thing ever, and I would prefer to remember him that way

Still an absolute legend, but as you say Dave, why the f*ck has it taken so so long for him to get recognised??

Jim

 

 

This may sound for many getting way to emotional or deep about the whole thing. But when he was over a few months ago I really went through pain deciding weather to go see him again. In the end I decided not, like you I saw him several times in the 80's and he was truly awesome. I then saw him in the 90's at Richard Searling's Birmingham weekender where he decided to be a real SOB and did a very odd set, but his acoustic version of 'California dreamin' made up for all the other nonsense. I have all his solo material including the Jap CD he guested on, which is something special for those that don't know it and I have the memory of seeing him when he was at the top of his game, that will do for me.

[Jim Ohara]

Doesn't sound emotional at all dave, if I had the chance now, I wouldn't go see BW

I would rather not take the risk in tarnishing the image I have of him back in '84 at Edinburgh playhouse - just awesome and the best bar none

I feel he was at a great point in his life at this time, in both material, attitude and voice - I want to keep hat memory

On a similar note, I kind of felt the same about bettye swan

She is my favourite female soul vocalist (although candi staton on her 2 early fame albums equals her) and I used to have everything she done, but didnt want to so see her recently - just n case I was disappointed!!!

Strange to some maybe, but when artists have meant so much to you over the years, I just dont want that feeling to be be tarnished!

PS the jap CD you mention, is that the solo guitarist LP that BW guested on? - if so, it also came out on vinyl too - another i let go - DOH!

Jim

[Dave Thorley]

Doesn't sound emotional at all dave, if I had the chance now, I wouldn't go see BW

I would rather not take the risk in tarnishing the image I have of him back in '84 at Edinburgh playhouse - just awesome and the best bar none

I feel he was at a great point in his life at this time, in both material, attitude and voice - I want to keep hat memory

On a similar note, I kind of felt the same about bettye swan

She is my favourite female soul vocalist (although candi staton on her 2 early fame albums equals her) and I used to have everything she done, but didnt want to so see her recently - just n case I was disappointed!!!

Strange to some maybe, but when artists have meant so much to you over the years, I just dont want that feeling to be be tarnished!

PS the jap CD you mention, is that the solo guitarist LP that BW guested on? - if so, it also came out on vinyl too - another i let go - DOH!

Jim

 

 

That's the one, can't remember the Artists name at the mo, I'm sure someone else can tell us. Anyway didn't know it came out on vinyl gotta get me one of those.

[Jim Ohara]

That's the one, can't remember the Artists name at the mo, I'm sure someone else can tell us. Anyway didn't know it came out on vinyl gotta get me one of those.

June yamagishi - my pleasure

Can't remember the dealers name where I got it dave, but I'm sure he was from London and tended to specialise in p-vine etc

I think I paid about £30 as a new release

Quite tricky to find now probably, but it will be there somewhere

Best

Jim

[Guest Paul]

Most people had many opportunities to appreciate and support Womack in the 1970s and early '80s during his most creative and prolific days - and when he was young enough and healthy enough to have really enjoyed the rewards of success.

 

It isn't as if his records were very obscure; most of his albums were issued internationally on major labels as new releases and they received a lot of critical acclaim and media attention, mostly from Blues & Soul, Black Music and Black Echoes etc but also from more mainstream publications sometimes.

But most of Womack's albums were quite poor sellers in the UK so I think the sad truth is that many soul fans either weren't very interested at the time or maybe they were just too focused on other things.

Womack's fans were passionate and loyal but there just wasn't enough of them.

Recognition is better late than never so I'm thrilled that Womack is finally getting so much belated mainstream acclaim because at the very least he'll now have no doubts that his music was very special, it moved a lot of people and will survive long after he's gone.

 

Paul

[Mark R]

...................why the f*ck has it taken so so long for him to get recognised??

Jim

 

Damon Albarn I'm afraid..........

 

 

Cheers,

Mark R

Edited July 1, 2013 by Mark R

[Mark R]

June yamagishi - my pleasure

Can't remember the dealers name where I got it dave, but I'm sure he was from London and tended to specialise in p-vine etc

I think I paid about £30 as a new release

Quite tricky to find now probably, but it will be there somewhere

Best

Jim

 

Label is Meldac.  Got a CD but not the vinyl.

 

"Give This Love A Try" is the track..........basically a well extended re-work of "Trust Your Heart."

 

Look for the Wilton Felder CD "Forever Always" for the Bobby vocalled "Forever."  Just mentioning as it's one of those oddities that many may have missed.

 

 

 

Cheers,

Mark R

[Jim Ohara]

That's the one mark

[Smudger]

Will always love Bobby a legend and this is how i prefer to remember him  a true great and fabulous live !

 

 

 

[Guest Dave Turner]

Label is Meldac.  Got a CD but not the vinyl.

 

"Give This Love A Try" is the track..........basically a well extended re-work of "Trust Your Heart."

 

Look for the Wilton Felder CD "Forever Always" for the Bobby vocalled "Forever."  Just mentioning as it's one of those oddities that many may have missed.

 

 

 

Cheers,

Mark R

 

Another oddity some may have missed is a scarce 1972 double LP set in the "Your Navy Presents" series which were put out by United States Naval Recruitment Dept to forces radio as part of a recruitment campaign. 

 

There were a few in the series ie Lou Rawls, Carpenters, Pat Boone etc and most had just the regular takes on them.

 

The Bobby Womack & His Quintet one though has all newly recorded takes of mainly his Minit stuff.

 

I've only heard "I'm In Love" from it though but the rest is supposed to be good or even better 

 

01.Who's Making Love

02.Ain't No Love

03.What Now My Love

04.Broadway-Midnight Mover

05.What Is This

06.California Dreaming

07.This Is My Country

08.Up On The Moon

09.Driving His Groove-instr

10.I'm In Love

11.I Left My Heart In San Fransisco

12.Fly Me To The Moon

Edited July 1, 2013 by Dave Turner

[Jordirip]

Here's Bobby with June Yamagishi, pure bliss.

 

[Eddie Hubbard]

Felt really deflated watching Bobby sing the songs off his new album , felt the songs were weak, his vocals strained and the backing did him no justice , and very nearly went to bed .Decided to stay and listen to the older material , and so glad I did ...Part 2 was an inspiration, full femme backing , Altrina Gayson dueting , horn section, the works .....Bobby went through his past catalogue in inspired style ,Daylight ,If you think you're lonely now , Looking for a love ,A change is gonna come , Across 110th St , Woman's gotta have it ,Harry Hippie etc .I know he's been ill , his voice isn't as strong as it was , but Bobby Womack for and hour and a half ,on mainstream TV, after a personal great few days of Soul music was the icing on the cake for me ....

[Pete S]

I once had for sale this US double LP, I think it was a film soundtrack circa 1973, anyway of all things it had Bobby Womack's "Nothing You Can Do" on it - the Northern rarity on the HIM label.

[Guest Dave Turner]

I once had for sale this US double LP, I think it was a film soundtrack circa 1973, anyway of all things it had Bobby Womack's "Nothing You Can Do" on it - the Northern rarity on the HIM label.

 

Pete, I think that would have been this mate

 

War with Bobby Womack

 

https://www.discogs.com/War-The-Other-Side-Of-War-Warms-Your-Heart/release/579695

[Pete S]

Pete, I think that would have been this mate

 

War with Bobby Womack

 

https://www.discogs.com/War-The-Other-Side-Of-War-Warms-Your-Heart/release/579695

 

Yes Dave that is definitely it, thanks - I wouldn't have remembered that title in a month of sundays

[Chalky]

taking nothing away from B.W.

But love the history of british boys born in the 40's learning their guitars in the 50's listening to American RnB

full credit I say,

I ask one question, would that have been anyone of us?

Long live the Stones

 

 

Learning American R&B then plagiarising and ripping other artists off 

[Chalky]

Damon Albarn I'm afraid..........

 

 

Cheers,

Mark R

Damon Alburn and Richard Russell deserve a huge pat on the back and some well earned respect for what they've done for Bobby.

 

Haven't seen all Bobby yet but what I have seen it would appear he struggled at first, wrong song choices maybe to start the set off?  But once he was into the second half of his set he was kicking ass.

Edited July 1, 2013 by chalky

[Back Street Blue]

Learning American R&B then plagiarising and ripping other artists off 

 

Can't open the image for some reason.

 

Surely all musicians have to learn from someone?

 

Very early days, Jagger & Richards may have payed homage to the blues guitarists/artists that they idolized, but their back catalogue over the last 50 years is unique to them and original.

 

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vBecM3CQVD8

[Dekka]

All the American boys certainly enjoyed the Royalties,

 

they soon shut up when the cheques started coming in, including BW

[Guest Cluggy]

Still did it for me,last saw bobby at the Apollo in Manchester after he was on at the Birmingham weekender not sure when that was ,vocally very good but very dissapionted with his set .sang only a few of his classics said afterwards wouldn't go to see him again but after watching him at Glastonbury on the bbc I would ,I really enjoyed his new stuff ,I know vocally his voice isnt what it was but still passionate and soulfull,and he sang quite a few of his old gems.

Let's not forget how old this great man is ,couldn't hit all his notes but what singer can at his age.how many weekenders do we go to where we see these great soul singers from the the sixties and say how fantastic they were,vocally most of them aren't very good as they probably haven't sang for 40 years but it's as we want to remember them ,just my thoughts

[Mark R]

Damon Alburn and Richard Russell deserve a huge pat on the back and some well earned respect for what they've done for Bobby.

 

 

 

Chalky, to clarify, I couldn't agree more............just seems a shame that that's what it took..........but yes, at least it's got him a revived profile!

 

 

Cheers,

Mark R

[Autumnstoned]

Damon Alburn and Richard Russell deserve a huge pat on the back and some well earned respect for what they've done for Bobby.

 

Haven't seen all Bobby yet but what I have seen it would appear he struggled at first, wrong song choices maybe to start the set off?  But once he was into the second half of his set he was kicking ass.

 

Well said. I really like The Bravest Man In The Universe album and would like to have heard him perform Deep River off it. Love Is Gonna Lift You Up is just fantastic and I would like to have heard it arranged for the full band in the second set as they would have made it soar higher, I think. Glad I watched it.

Edited July 1, 2013 by autumnstoned

[Guest keithh]

A few random thoughts and comments re: Bobby Womack.

I watched him at Glastonbury last night.  I'm so pleased he's getting more widespread recognition due to his collaboration with Damon Albarn, but it doesn't do anything for me at all.  I was pleased he revisited his mighty back catalogue for the second half, and although it had its' moments, I found watching it rather uncomfortable.  I had the same experience some years ago, watching Bobby Bland when he came to London.  We fans are there to pay homage to the great artists we have adored for so many years, but watching them when they are mere shadows of their former selves can be a painful experience.  The greatest gig I have EVER seen was Bobby Womacks 'Last soul man' at Hammersmith in 1988, when he was doing great work at MCA. Thanks to smudger for reminding us all how great BW was with two great clips, from  those MCA years.  I recently discovered this track, an absolutely sublime duet with the wonderful Ronald Isley.

An amusing aside to all of those that mentioned the Stones;  When they did their first US tour, they visited the local record stores, bought the records they liked and learned the lyrics to 'It's all over now' by listening to the 45.  Because they didn't understand the Black slang term 'She got my nose wide open' (she screwed me up) they sang 'I got my eyes wide open', which both rankled and amused Bobby Womack.

[Guest nsoulxx]

Bobby W Should be good, looking forward to that.

Love reading the banners at Glasto, seen one the other year, said "Golf Sale (and right arrow)" right in the middle of the crowd, genius.

On a down note, can't stand girls that sit on their boyfriends shoulders, mouthing lyrics.........talk about attention seeking..........It's probably just me, I'm a bit wierd about some things.

 

P.s. This weekend mostly looking forward to Sheffield's own Arctic Monkeys, Rodriguez also Seasick Steve, oh and Elvis Costello should be good live too.

I reckon you're just like me! I can't stand those type of girls either. Tools! Maybe it's just because... or maybe it's because if I tried to sit on a blokes shoulders, he'd have serious back problems for ever....

[macca]

All the American boys certainly enjoyed the Royalties,

 

they soon shut up when the cheques started coming in, including BW

 

If you throw the net wider to include early R&B-R&R artists commercially aped (sic) by white, Tin Pan Alley clones, should they have been cap-in-hand grateful for the spotlight/royalty cheques too? Sir Antoine Fats Domino springs to mind. So does Sir Richard Penniman. It's only because we (some of us) love the Stones to death that we forgive their early transgressions. I f*** hate people like Pat Boone so can't forgive his. 

[Chalky]

All the American boys certainly enjoyed the Royalties, they soon shut up when the cheques started coming in, including BW

They didn't all enjoy royalties if you do your research. Rolling Stones "last time" written by Jagger and Richards there's plenty more examples when you go looking for them.

Edited July 10, 2013 by chalky

[Guest Awake 502]

Bobby Womack with June Yamagishi or Bobby Womack with David Ruffin...... no contest..

 

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rCPuHDbfq90

Edited July 10, 2013 by Awake 502

[Seano]

Felt really deflated watching Bobby sing the songs off his new album , felt the songs were weak, his vocals strained and the backing did him no justice , and very nearly went to bed .Decided to stay and listen to the older material , and so glad I did ...Part 2 was an inspiration, full femme backing , Altrina Gayson dueting , horn section, the works .....Bobby went through his past catalogue in inspired style ,Daylight ,If you think you're lonely now , Looking for a love ,A change is gonna come , Across 110th St , Woman's gotta have it ,Harry Hippie etc .I know he's been ill , his voice isn't as strong as it was , but Bobby Womack for and hour and a half ,on mainstream TV, after a personal great few days of Soul music was the icing on the cake for me ....

That's encouraging, as I did actually go to bed and just left it recording, so looking forward to hearing the rest! Thanks Ed!

[Jordirip]

Bobby Womack with June Yamagishi or Bobby Womack with David Ruffin...... no contest..

 

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rCPuHDbfq90

 

I love both versions. They're both different takes on the same song and both versions are deadly. I love the bassline on the columbia version.   but the feel and atmosphere (and guitar playing) of the June Yamagishi take is something else.