Markd Posted June 28, 2013 Posted June 28, 2013 Has the world gone mad or is it just me....... Upto £250.00 and still 2 days left. Is this the going rate these days ?
NEV Posted June 28, 2013 Posted June 28, 2013 Has the world gone mad or is it just me....... Upto £250.00 and still 2 days left. Is this the going rate these days ? Been going for silly money ever since that guy ..forget his name ...Butch is it ?? played it in his set once ..about a yr or so back Great oldie im sure ,but why the amount of people rush out to get one now is a bit sad ..meaning ,surely if you rate it and have been dj'n for donkeys yrs ,you should have it in your box already ...if not ,then your just playing it cos Butch has re-activated it Personally at the type of venues that this would go down a storm ,i'd suggest you get the lp ,it's not easy to pick up ,but it's gotta be better than paying anything over £100 for the UK only 45 1
Chalky Posted June 28, 2013 Posted June 28, 2013 He's played it more than once and it's a US acetate he has and a different take I think to the UK release. 2
NEV Posted June 28, 2013 Posted June 28, 2013 He's played it more than once and it's a US acetate he has and a different take I think to the UK release. heyup fella ... im not knocking the record mate ,it's a great record ,but i believe the hype and recent price hike stems from Butch playing it out somewhere ?
Mal C Posted June 28, 2013 Posted June 28, 2013 Its a great dancer and all that, but she has made far far better records that mostly go for under £20... in fact the list is endless, But then you all know that... so why the hype about this track? M
Pomonkey Posted June 28, 2013 Posted June 28, 2013 Clearly not time to change it's title to "Worth every penny"!
NEV Posted June 28, 2013 Posted June 28, 2013 Its a great dancer and all that, but she has made far far better records that mostly go for under £20... in fact the list is endless, But then you all know that... so why the hype about this track? M Cos it's a proper classic Northern sound ... and when people are used to hearing the same records played to death ,they need someone to remind them that this one has been locked away for too long
Tobytyke Posted June 28, 2013 Posted June 28, 2013 i remember pete smith writing in beatin rhythim mag about worth every tear...... after some dealer quoted 3 figures." Yes its worth 3 figures £9.99"! think he went on to prove it by buying one for that price a few weeks later. however it was over 20 years ago. Wonder what happened to him
Agentsmith Posted June 28, 2013 Posted June 28, 2013 (edited) the late, great dee dee, who lived in the shadow of her sister, but who's repetoire is every bit as good as the elder sibling's...right about the "cheapie section", connoiseurs stuff in there...."where is that rainbow" a much better reworking of the lp track, "when love slips away", yes there are other versions of that particular track, but her version is delivered with consumate ease, above all else...a fabulous vocal range and quite comfortably bracketed with the linda jones's of this world....for me personally,...the sublimnal "we've got everything going for us" just does it...and a b-side at that...it does help though, when you've got "the wiz" at the controls. so,....worth every tear i cry is worth every penny you've got no matter what you pay...quality is dee dee warwick's trademark. Edited June 28, 2013 by AGENTSMITH 1
Steve G Posted June 28, 2013 Posted June 28, 2013 heyup fella ... im not knocking the record mate ,it's a great record ,but i believe the hype and recent price hike stems from Butch playing it out somewhere ? Won't be the first time, nor the last Nev.....Butch does indeed play a US acetate of it.
Pete S Posted June 28, 2013 Posted June 28, 2013 i remember pete smith writing in beatin rhythim mag about worth every tear...... after some dealer quoted 3 figures." Yes its worth 3 figures £9.99"! think he went on to prove it by buying one for that price a few weeks later. however it was over 20 years ago. Wonder what happened to him I still have a laugh about that when I think about it. I'd actually sold it for something like £6 so when I saw that "three figures" quote I couldn't let it go. Luckily I got one from a boot sale about 2 weeks later. It is quite hard though, due to the demand really.
Chalky Posted June 28, 2013 Posted June 28, 2013 (edited) heyup fella ... im not knocking the record mate ,it's a great record ,but i believe the hype and recent price hike stems from Butch playing it out somewhere ? I know your not rocking it mate. just saying Butch featured it a fair bit. But top DJ's have always influenced what others DJ's go out and buy. Shame some of those DJs don't go looking for some of the cheapies and goodies out there. Edited June 28, 2013 by chalky
KevH Posted June 28, 2013 Posted June 28, 2013 Where's this for auction.? I thought the UK single was a tough one.? The LP is out there,is that as elusive.? 1
Philippe Posted June 28, 2013 Posted June 28, 2013 Where's this for auction.? It's here Kev : https://tinyurl.com/ps9vs9e Bidder Bid Amount Bid Time Member Id: c***e( 1545) GBP 250.00 Jun-24-13 16:06:13 PDT Member Id: e***t( 1663) GBP 245.00 Jun-28-13 07:19:36 PDT Member Id: e***t( 1663) GBP 210.00 Jun-28-13 07:19:22 PDT Member Id: e***t( 1663) GBP 155.00 Jun-25-13 09:06:04 PDT Member Id: e***t( 1663) GBP 125.00 Jun-25-13 09:05:52 PDT Member Id: e***t( 1663) GBP 75.00 Jun-25-13 09:05:43 PDT Member Id: l***g ( private ) GBP 10.00 Jun-24-13 14:12:41 PDT Member Id: 1***6( 662) GBP 5.00 Jun-23-13 12:58:03 PDT Starting Price GBP 0.99 Jun-23-13 12:35:52 PDT 1
Jim Ohara Posted June 28, 2013 Posted June 28, 2013 Has the world gone mad or is it just me....... Upto £250.00 and still 2 days left. Is this the going rate these days ? It's not you mark, the world has gone mad! 1
Agentsmith Posted June 28, 2013 Posted June 28, 2013 £250 seems steep ,compared to what it has sold for before, and that's taking into account it's a u.k. release only, but, as i said time's change and people come round to valuing things...our vinyl IS 2nd only to antiques for top dollar...because they literally ARE antiques...you have to smile even if you're exasperated....because it's suddenly commanding respect and it IS a great tune that SHOULD be played...it aint a boring tune
Soulhawk1960 Posted June 28, 2013 Posted June 28, 2013 Well folks, I sold a minter for £125 about 6 years ago. I was happy and the buyer was happy and I would be even happier if I still had it !
NEV Posted June 28, 2013 Posted June 28, 2013 £250 seems steep ,compared to what it has sold for before, and that's taking into account it's a u.k. release only, but, as i said time's change and people come round to valuing things...our vinyl IS 2nd only to antiques for top dollar...because they literally ARE antiques...you have to smile even if you're exasperated....because it's suddenly commanding respect and it IS a great tune that SHOULD be played...it aint a boring tune Soul records are a false economy .....price usually is dictated by dj demand and not actual rarity of the piece . Once the demand drops ,irrespective of rarity ,so does the price ! 2
Louise Posted June 28, 2013 Posted June 28, 2013 £250 seems steep ,compared to what it has sold for before, and that's taking into account it's a u.k. release only, but, as i said time's change and people come round to valuing things...our vinyl IS 2nd only to antiques for top dollar...because they literally ARE antiques...you have to smile even if you're exasperated....because it's suddenly commanding respect and it IS a great tune that SHOULD be played...it aint a boring tune Perhaps it's a demo copy ........................................................................................................... Dave
Steve G Posted June 29, 2013 Posted June 29, 2013 Soul records are a false economy .....price usually is dictated by dj demand and not actual rarity of the piece . Once the demand drops ,irrespective of rarity ,so does the price ! I agree Nev in principle, particularly with mediocre stuff. But I think really good soul records hold their price and this is a really good soul record. Not sure about £250 though, it's tempting me out to a few boot fairs to see what I can find 1
Dave Pinch Posted June 29, 2013 Posted June 29, 2013 £3 mint unplayed from reddingtons in birmingham just before he closed up the shop a few years ago....workin at the bullring.. popped in during my dinner break...boy did dan slip up that day 1
Jumpinjoan Posted June 29, 2013 Posted June 29, 2013 I know your not rocking it mate. just saying Butch featured it a fair bit. But top DJ's have always influenced what others DJ's go out and buy. Shame some of those DJs don't go looking for some of the cheapies and goodies out there. To be fair though, he isn't playing a cheapie is he - he's playing a different version acetate of a well known record Big name DJs playing more 'available' tunes on the exact same format as the rest of us - now that would be something 3
Agentsmith Posted June 29, 2013 Posted June 29, 2013 Perhaps it's a demo copy ........................................................................................................... Dave yes dave,...that would be something now, wouldn't it?....how's your mr. anderson buddy by the way?
Agentsmith Posted June 29, 2013 Posted June 29, 2013 I agree Nev in principle, particularly with mediocre stuff. But I think really good soul records hold their price and this is a really good soul record. Not sure about £250 though, it's tempting me out to a few boot fairs to see what I can find agree with that perspective steve, my point is...it really is the most important collectors market behind antiques...of course, nev's right as well, prices will fluctuate, BUT in collectors terms, they will always be worth more than what they were originally sold for at the counter and, as has been proven, once stocks diminish, the rise in value will reflect this fact...even if it's something that's getting played or not...everything has it's day and it's price. 1
Guest CapitolSC Posted July 1, 2013 Posted July 1, 2013 Well if someones got a nice copy for meill give you 150 quidAnd i dont want it cos Butch or any other dj plays itI want it cos its a fantastic record .The reason ive never got a copy in the past is that only ever had a limited amount of cash for 45sand as everyone on here knows other things always come up.Theres far more collectors out there than DJS even though it does seem sometimes that everyones a DJAl H
Tobytyke Posted July 2, 2013 Posted July 2, 2013 my copy has a yellow "sample not for resale" stamped on the Lovers Chant side. Does this mean its an authentic demo? and would it make it more valuable?
Pete S Posted July 2, 2013 Posted July 2, 2013 my copy has a yellow "sample not for resale" stamped on the Lovers Chant side. Does this mean its an authentic demo? and would it make it more valuable? It is a demo but only as much a demo as those with not for sale stickers on them
Dave Abbott Posted July 2, 2013 Posted July 2, 2013 I PAID ABOUT £100 SIX YEARS AGO; IT WAS A TOUGHIE TO GET...WELL I THOUGHT SO. I HAVE HEARD BUTCH PLAY THE USA ACETATE - SOUNDS PRETTY MUCH THE SAME TO ME
bri pinch Posted July 6, 2013 Posted July 6, 2013 It's a proper demo Jez, as Philips/Mercury never did demos at this time, just a yellow demo stamp on the lable...Butchs US acetate sounds the same to me too
hullsoul Posted July 6, 2013 Posted July 6, 2013 Been going for silly money ever since that guy ..forget his name ...Butch is it ?? played it in his set once ..about a yr or so back Great oldie im sure ,but why the amount of people rush out to get one now is a bit sad ..meaning ,surely if you rate it and have been dj'n for donkeys yrs ,you should have it in your box already ...if not ,then your just playing it cos Butch has re-activated it Personally at the type of venues that this would go down a storm ,i'd suggest you get the lp ,it's not easy to pick up ,but it's gotta be better than paying anything over £100 for the UK only 45 Nev Same happened when he started playing The Belles-Don't Pretend & Barbara Carr-My Mama Told Me. I'll stick with my Mercury Demo LP copy Cheers Martyn 1
hullsoul Posted July 6, 2013 Posted July 6, 2013 I PAID ABOUT £100 SIX YEARS AGO; IT WAS A TOUGHIE TO GET...WELL I THOUGHT SO. I HAVE HEARD BUTCH PLAY THE USA ACETATE - SOUNDS PRETTY MUCH THE SAME TO ME Dave Would have thought that or a touch less was about right? As you say not that easy. Cheers Martyn
Pete S Posted July 6, 2013 Posted July 6, 2013 It's a proper demo Jez, as Philips/Mercury never did demos at this time, just a yellow demo stamp on the lable...Butchs US acetate sounds the same to me too You couldn't sell that as a demo though Bri, not for more than an issue - I always put 'demo stamp on label' but never charge more - too easy to fake. 1
bri pinch Posted July 12, 2013 Posted July 12, 2013 (edited) You couldn't sell that as a demo though Bri, not for more than an issue - I always put 'demo stamp on label' but never charge more - too easy to fake. this is very true mate, but having seen this particular copy looks good to me, he may even have got it from you Edited July 12, 2013 by bri pinch
Bridgesoceity Posted July 12, 2013 Posted July 12, 2013 Butch played it at the Windsor suite, Stoke, the first rare room event i believe?, i had a look at the decks when it was playing and it looked like a test press (7inch)?,
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