Guest gaz thomas Posted June 25, 2013 Posted June 25, 2013 boss records detroit as a collector i picked up what i thought was the three releases johnny dixon - where are you jeen and him - you aint gonna get a chance reggie alexander - its better all on the super sonic sound label 45s arranged by herbie williams, jack ashford, john allen, lorraine chandler, joe hunter, etc just hoping lorraine could add some history / insight I take it boss 101 is jean carter ? This is one obscure label I see the label later in the 60s, but I dont feel its got anything to do with original pied piper productions why boss records? three magnificent 45s ! and why just three releases ?
Dave Rimmer Posted June 25, 2013 Posted June 25, 2013 This might help. Boss There are at least seven labels called Boss that released records in the Sixties, all from different cities, so here are the listings for the seven I’m aware of: Boss (Philadelphia) 401 — The Boss-Tones — Mope-Itty Mope / Wings Of An Angel 402 — Ace Jones - Why Did You Leave Me / Oh Marie 403 — The Deb-Teens — Darling / Drip Drop 404 - The Manhattons - Far East Rock / ? 501 — The Bosstones — Mope-Itty Mope / Wings Of An Angel502 — The Celebrities — You Didn't Tell The Truth / Good Night503 — The Celebrities — I Chose You Baby / Inst. Boss (Chicago) 2002 - Denny Jordon - You'll Be Lonely / ? - ? 2113 - Ric & Ray & The Bossmen - One Look / Till The Day I Die 2117 — The Duvals — Cotton / What I Am 2118 — ? 2119 — ? 2120 — The Squires — Girls / It’s Time2121 - Sam Chatmon & The Sparks featuring Gwinny Witherspoon - Nobody But Me / I Don't Care - ?2122 — The Rannels — Blue Island / Boom Baby 2123 — ? 2124 — Little Bobby Neely — Bad Undertaking / Part Of A Fool 2125 — Perk Lee — The Docks / Peanut Butter Sandwiches Boss (Los Angeles) 101 — Hank Turgeon — I’ve Got To Hand It To You / Yours My Love 102 — Spider Ray & The Velveteens — While We Dance / It’s Love Baby (24 Hours A Day) Boss (Detroit) 101 — Jeen & Him — You Ain't Gonna Get A Chance / The Party's Over 102 — Reggie Alexander — My Confession (To You) / It's Better103 — Johnny Dixon & Super Sonic Strings — Where Are You / Inst.103 — Joe L — It's Love Baby / Maria's Blues Boss (Louisville) 6501 - The Kan Dells - Cry Girl / Cloudburst - 1965 9912 - The Chateaus — I’m The One / The Bells Of Remmy - 1965 9913 - ? 9914 -? 9915 - New Lime - It's Your Turn To Cry / Only You - 1965 9916 - The Trendells - Sha-La-Lah-La / Sweets For My Sweet -1965 9916 - Paul Wolfe - A Long Long Time / Raindrops In The Snow - 1965 9917 - Soul Inc - Who Do You Love / 727 - 1965 9918 - Soul Inc - (In The) Midnight Hour / The Leaves Of Grass - 19669919 - The Trendells — Love / It's So Right - 1966 9920 - Soul Inc - Stronger Than Dirt / 60 Miles High - 1967 9921 - The Tren-Dells — That’s My Desire / Let's Go Steady For The Summer - 1967 Boss (New York) 1301 - Billy Nichols - Whip Your Body (Whip It Whip It Whip It) / Same Boss (San Francisco) 001 - Continental Four - Walking On A Cloud / Please Be My Girlfriend 002 - Rovin' Flames - I Can't / I'm Afraid To Go Home 003 - The Ravens - Reaching For The Sun / The Things We Did Today 004 - The Berkley Five - The Things We Did Today / You're Gonna Cry 005 - ? 006 - ? 007 - ? 008 - Journey Men - She's Sorry / Short And Sweet 009 - Purple Underground - On Broadway / Rain Come Down 010 - Purple Underground - Count Back / Soon 0041 - Jo Jo Petite - Joey / You Make Me Come Alive 2
Robbk Posted June 25, 2013 Posted June 25, 2013 Isn't it interesting that Dennis Edwards was lead singer in a group that made a record on a Philadelphia label named Boss, and yet he was a Detroit artist, and there was later an unrelated Detroit label named Boss? Was he originally from Philadelphia?
Premium Stuff Posted June 25, 2013 Posted June 25, 2013 (edited) Boss (Philadelphia) 401 — The Boss-Tones — Mope-Itty Mope / Wings Of An Angel 402 — Ace Jones - Why Did You Leave Me / Oh Marie 403 — The Deb-Teens — Darling / Drip Drop 404 - The Manhattons - Far East Rock / ? 501 — The Bosstones — Mope-Itty Mope / Wings Of An Angel502 — The Celebrities — You Didn't Tell The Truth / Good Night503 — The Celebrities — I Chose You Baby / Inst. The Celebrities "I Choose You Baby" clearly states Detroit on the label and look at the credits too on that and on "You Didn't Tell The Truth". - Detroit names. They also sound like Detroit recordings. What is the evidence that says these were Philadelphia releases? Cheers Richard Click on pictures to see larger images Edited June 25, 2013 by Premium Stuff
Robbk Posted June 25, 2013 Posted June 25, 2013 (edited) The Celebrities "I Choose You Baby" clearly states Detroit on the label and look at the credits too on that and on "You Didn't Tell The Truth". - Detroit names. They also sound like Detroit recordings. What is the evidence that says these were Philadelphia releases? Cheers Richard Click on pictures to see larger images Of Course! How could I have forgotten that Frank Brown, Joe Hunter and Mike Terry were involved in that recording, and that the red pressing had "Detroit michigan"written on the label? It's only that the yellow pressing DOESN'T have "Detroit"on the label, and also looks very similar in design to the Philly label's font and layout, and also the incredible coincidence that both labels (Philly label's 2nd run only) started from 500. But, anyone knowing the time periods of both labels would know that they couldn't have run concurrently. The Philly label's #503 was issued several years before The Celebrities' Detroit release. Another item of interest is that there appears to be only a thin connection of The Celebreties' Detroit Boss Records with the Pied Piper Detroit Boss, in that both labels used Joe Hunter and Mike Terry in their recordings. But, Frank Brown seems to be the money man/executive production man in The Celebrities', and The Pied Piper people were clearly the source of the later Boss issues. Perhaps Joe Hunter and Mike Terry are links from one label to another, but I'd like to know why these two, seemingly little-related labels had the same name only 1-2 years apart. Edited June 25, 2013 by RobbK 1
Guest gaz thomas Posted June 25, 2013 Posted June 25, 2013 (edited) thanks for that guys, the celebrities - Boss503 - is a fantastic and rare 45 is it not. but Its not the pied piper super sonic sound boss label is it ? I see the Joe Hunter credit on the celebrities 45 but no sign of Herbie Williams,Johnny Allen, Lorraine Chandler or Jack Ashford. Also the Joe L 45 listed in the detriot boss list is a totally different label aswel isnt it, with no connection at all to pied piper? So I take it there is only Boss super sonic sound production 101,102,and 103 - just the 3 releases Anyone one know of any other releases on that inprint ? Thanks again Guys Edited June 25, 2013 by gaz thomas
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