night nurse Posted June 15, 2013 Posted June 15, 2013 i recently was biding on a batch of records and was winning them all though out the time they were on in fact several of his records he had on the problem i had was right at the last min i was out bid on every one by pence but guess what they were all won by the same person it was the sellers partner what i want to know as anyone else had this problem with eBay the next day he re advertised them for the same starting bid WHY WOULD YOU DO THIS if your selling something surly you would put it on there for about the price you looking for the mind boggles
Chalky Posted June 15, 2013 Posted June 15, 2013 (edited) Free to list at a low start so just outbid the other bidders if they don't achieve what they want. Relisting is simply one or two clicks of the mouse. Edited June 15, 2013 by chalky
night nurse Posted June 15, 2013 Author Posted June 15, 2013 yea i know this but whats the point of getting someone to out bid you and then re list them let alone your mrs what about the eBay charges it just don't make sense to me .
Chalky Posted June 15, 2013 Posted June 15, 2013 yea i know this but whats the point of getting someone to out bid you and then re list them let alone your mrs what about the eBay charges it just don't make sense to me . Probably feels it is better to pay the charges than lose on the sale, assuming he or she is losing out?
Constellation161 Posted June 15, 2013 Posted June 15, 2013 Would have thought against e-bay rules. Mick Perrins.
Pete S Posted June 15, 2013 Posted June 15, 2013 It's shill bidding and if you can prove it's his partner they could be kicked off ebay for that 1
Premium Stuff Posted June 15, 2013 Posted June 15, 2013 Complain on every single item through resolution centre first - and don't leave it too late mate.
night nurse Posted June 15, 2013 Author Posted June 15, 2013 i have contacted eBay already i know its is partner for sure
night nurse Posted June 15, 2013 Author Posted June 15, 2013 i have contacted eBay already i know its is partner for sure
Premium Stuff Posted June 15, 2013 Posted June 15, 2013 Just make sure you cover off every item in case they still have to sell them to you (not sure ebay can force them to do that though). Good luck! Richard
night nurse Posted June 15, 2013 Author Posted June 15, 2013 Just make sure you cover off every item in case they still have to sell them to you (not sure ebay can force them to do that though). Good luck! Richard cheers mate
Monkey Posted June 15, 2013 Posted June 15, 2013 sounds borderline illegal to me if prosecuted a guilty party faces stiff penalties https://www.guardian.co.uk/technology/2010/apr/20/ebay-seller-convicted-auction-fixing
Chatty Posted June 15, 2013 Posted June 15, 2013 Can understand your beef, he should either just put a reserve on them or start the bidding at the least he's willing to accept! 1
night nurse Posted June 16, 2013 Author Posted June 16, 2013 Can understand your beef, he should either just put a reserve on them or start the bidding at the least he's willing to accept! totally agree i just don't see why anyone would do it . i mean if you don't want to sell then don't put um on eBay awaiting eBay reply
Guest nsoulxx Posted June 17, 2013 Posted June 17, 2013 They do want to sell them, just for a massive price. If they don't get the bids, someone they know bids so that it doesn't get sold too late. It's fraud and is a criminal offence. Police may not take it on though unless it's of a significant value overall but definitely Ebay should boot them.
Guest soulchasers Posted June 19, 2013 Posted June 19, 2013 yea i know this but whats the point of getting someone to out bid you and then re list them let alone your mrs what about the eBay charges it just don't make sense to me . he can just mark them as unpaid after 4 days and he'll get his fees back, but like everyone says just report them individually and hopefully he'll get kicked off, but knowing ebay probably not as they'll lose out in the long run....
boba Posted June 19, 2013 Posted June 19, 2013 sniping to shill bid is idiotic. not saying it didn't happen, but if you're gonna shill bid, do it early and often. when i joined ebay, shill bidding was actually not against the rules. i think they changed it in early 2000s.
night nurse Posted June 19, 2013 Author Posted June 19, 2013 got email from eBay they are not going to do any thing as they were a low value item but according to them he has not committed a infringement of the rules as i can not prove that he had got some one to bid them bye bye eBay
Mr Smithy Posted June 19, 2013 Posted June 19, 2013 So who is this prince & princess of timewasters, It just gets better all the time.
paultp Posted June 19, 2013 Posted June 19, 2013 So presumably what he has done here is got someone to put a snipe bid on each record for the price he wants to sell at? Then if someone has put a bid with a high enough max the snipe bid would push it above what he wants. If not he gets to keep the record and not sell it at a low price? New one on me but I can see the logic in it, it must be against the rules but it would be hard to prove. EBay won't care as they make a fee every time he does it.
Mr Smithy Posted June 20, 2013 Posted June 20, 2013 Why not put what you want as a starting bid? You might as well if you're not going to sell for less. Stops all this buggering about. Also how many non payers can you file with the same non paying buyer before even EB will smell something?
night nurse Posted June 20, 2013 Author Posted June 20, 2013 lifes to short to bother with um really i just go to rob smith from now on
Dave Thorley Posted June 20, 2013 Posted June 20, 2013 Sounds like a well known Carolina's record dealer, he does this all the time..........................
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