Guest Seagrave Posted June 15, 2013 Posted June 15, 2013 Yes, always nice to have a politely answer. Oh, and I'm sure some kind person on here can put a soundclip of the Frank Wilson up, for those of us who haven't heard it yet. 1
Guest Johnny One Trout Posted June 15, 2013 Posted June 15, 2013 LOL My wife sang a duet of "Do I Love You, Indeed I Do" on our wedding night with Frank Wilson himself in a Hotel Bar in LA Happy days...... John
pikeys dog Posted June 15, 2013 Posted June 15, 2013 LOL My wife sang a duet of "Do I Love You, Indeed I Do" on our wedding night with Frank Wilson himself in a Hotel Bar in LA Happy days...... John And you didn't get it annulled? You must really love her. 1
Guest Seagrave Posted June 15, 2013 Posted June 15, 2013 And you didn't get it annulled? You must really love her. Indeed he must.
Guest gordon russell Posted June 15, 2013 Posted June 15, 2013 Yeah but if it goes back there......do try and keep up , The Mello Souls is in the UK at the moment but may go back to the USA.....and when you go there you have to fill out these little blue forms....."Are you bringing in communist literature, fried chicken or goods to the value of more than $10,000". Not quite the same as crossing the border into Milton Keynes Tezza Ah ,but the same tune comes out of USA couple of weeks earlier...price ziltch.....the buyer gives his mate in Molton Mowbray the 10--15k that he owed him....and takes his record that he,s been given for free back home to the USA
Theresa Posted June 15, 2013 Posted June 15, 2013 Molton Mowbray Never heard of it! It's that place where you go for a life of Pi
Guest Seagrave Posted June 15, 2013 Posted June 15, 2013 It's that place where you go for a life of Pi Red hot lava pies.
Premium Stuff Posted June 15, 2013 Posted June 15, 2013 It's that place where you go for a life of Pi And Chi Stilton Chi
Chatty Posted June 15, 2013 Posted June 15, 2013 I don't like it myself, well I'll rephrase that I wouldn't spend that amount of money on it if it was a couple of hundred yes but honestly its not that great the intro is fantastic but once they start singing they are all over the place and then it seems they all lose interest three quarters of the way through. Only my opinion though. I only became aware of this record fairly recently, and have obviously never heard it out, but i can understand why it became such a monster. To me in the same vein as a few of Searlings late Casino biggies, not the most soulful of records but one that hits the nerve! 1
Jim G Posted June 15, 2013 Posted June 15, 2013 I am not a fan of this record, but nonetheless appreciate it's importance in the history of the 'scene'. We are witnessing a little bit of history being made here I guess, as no doubt there won't be another copy coming along any day soon. Fascinating stuff.. 1
Premium Stuff Posted June 15, 2013 Posted June 15, 2013 I am not a fan of this record, but nonetheless appreciate it's importance in the history of the 'scene'. We are witnessing a little bit of history being made here I guess, as no doubt there won't be another copy coming along any day soon. Fascinating stuff.. Unless a box load comes along
Chatty Posted June 15, 2013 Posted June 15, 2013 Unless a box load comes along Bit of a wet dream isn't it. Would you rather win the lottery or drop on the same amount financially by finding a shed load of super desirables and having the pleasure of knocking them out one by one? (As if)
Tony Smith Posted June 15, 2013 Posted June 15, 2013 I heard the Mello Souls sold on here last year was sold for $17k, not sure how true it is. A mix of cash and trades is what I heard... 1
Popular Post Tony Smith Posted June 15, 2013 Popular Post Posted June 15, 2013 I'm lost for words really, you guys slagging it off; you ever turned up a record as good as this? Honestly if you were there when Butch first got this, and played it 3 times in his spot, you might have got it, magical times... 15
Popular Post Frankie Crocker Posted June 16, 2013 Popular Post Posted June 16, 2013 First the 'Tittyshaker' and now the 'Knee Trembler' to quote John's description. Perhaps we are watching history in the making with a real possibility of Frank Wilson being knocked off his perch. Chalky nails the summary of this record earlier in the strand - as pretty close to Northern perfection as you will ever find, a record that eclipses the mega-rarities that accompany it when spun in the sets of the world's top Northern DJ eg Walter and the Admerations, Ray Agee, Martha Jean Love, Joseph Webster, Saints etc. As Tony says above, why criticise a record like this when afterall, it epitomises what the music is all about. Here is a record beyond comparison, Northern perfection, a pinnacle of collecting that most of us can only dream of... Was this an Allentown find? Has anyone out there got the full story? Will John burn up his 20% flying to Japan to ensure complete customer satisfaction by offering a 'Hand Job' as it were? Is the reclusive Mr Flynn cunningly stockpiling rare records with a view to promoting the Tokyo Casino as the first truly global all- niter? As the tension builds, snipes are set, crate- diggers in the States search frantically for a 25 count box (minus three or four records), the Manship switchboard melts down and has to outsource the auction to a Call Centre in Swansea. The Mello Souls story has certainly livened up proceedings and could well prove to be the 'kick up the backside' the scene needs to return to up-tempo, vintage 66-69 Northern with a sprinkling of unknown sounds. 5
Jim G Posted June 16, 2013 Posted June 16, 2013 I'm lost for words really, you guys slagging it off; you ever turned up a record as good as this? Honestly if you were there when Butch first got this, and played it 3 times in his spot, you might have got it, magical times... Mmm, I wasn't slagging off, merely expressing an opinion by saying "I am not a fan". I am not a fan of Arsenal, does that mean i am not a fan of football. Anyway, as I said this is fascinating stuff, records like this are like rare stamps, toys, paintings etc., they create a huge buzz and that has to be a good thing.
Popular Post Pete S Posted June 16, 2013 Popular Post Posted June 16, 2013 , why criticise a record like this when afterall, it epitomises what the music is all about. Because it's a forum where people give their opinions on music etc and if some people don't like it, this is their platform to say it. What's happened here lately, anyone who doesn't like anything is castigated. If debate has been banned, we might as well all move to facebook. It's a good record, no doubt, nowhere near my top 500 but can understand why other rave over it. 5
Guest Seagrave Posted June 16, 2013 Posted June 16, 2013 I'm lost for words really, you guys slagging it off; you ever turned up a record as good as this? Honestly if you were there when Butch first got this, and played it 3 times in his spot, you might have got it, magical times... Yes, lots and lots, much better. But never one with even a quarter of its market value.
Guest Seagrave Posted June 16, 2013 Posted June 16, 2013 First the 'Tittyshaker' and now the 'Knee Trembler' to quote John's description. Perhaps we are watching history in the making with a real possibility of Frank Wilson being knocked off his perch. Chalky nails the summary of this record earlier in the strand - as pretty close to Northern perfection as you will ever find, a record that eclipses the mega-rarities that accompany it when spun in the sets of the world's top Northern DJ eg Walter and the Admerations, Ray Agee, Martha Jean Love, Joseph Webster, Saints etc. As Tony says above, why criticise a record like this when afterall, it epitomises what the music is all about. Here is a record beyond comparison, Northern perfection, a pinnacle of collecting that most of us can only dream of... Was this an Allentown find? Has anyone out there got the full story? Will John burn up his 20% flying to Japan to ensure complete customer satisfaction by offering a 'Hand Job' as it were? Is the reclusive Mr Flynn cunningly stockpiling rare records with a view to promoting the Tokyo Casino as the first truly global all- niter? As the tension builds, snipes are set, crate- diggers in the States search frantically for a 25 count box (minus three or four records), the Manship switchboard melts down and has to outsource the auction to a Call Centre in Swansea. The Mello Souls story has certainly livened up proceedings and could well prove to be the 'kick up the backside' the scene needs to return to up-tempo, vintage 66-69 Northern with a sprinkling of unknown sounds. Err ... no such thing as a snipe on Manship's auction. Meltdown? ... the last £4k worth of bids has been made by just five (yeah, count 'em, five) bidders. Oh, and not beyond comparison either - I have a few in the corner here which are just as mediocre. Good job we're not getting carried away, or exaggerating, eh?!
Popular Post Reg Scott Posted June 16, 2013 Popular Post Posted June 16, 2013 Yes, as Giant says, well described. Except, you forgot to mention the 'wet lettuce' sax break. Not sure what you're hearing in the sax break but there's nothing 'wet' about it imo - just a dirty, gritty lo-fi piece of raw soul - with respect maybe a blast of 'Gerry Rafferty's Baker Street' is more up some people's street G. 4
Premium Stuff Posted June 16, 2013 Posted June 16, 2013 Not sure what you're hearing in the sax break but there's nothing 'wet' about it imo - just a dirty, gritty lo-fi piece of raw soul - with respect maybe a blast of 'Gerry Rafferty's Baker Street' is more up some people's street G. Now that is a great song by the way and a fabulous sax break
Bo Diddley Posted June 16, 2013 Author Posted June 16, 2013 Upto just over £12k now ....and the addition of a quote from Chalky's earlier post in the write up.
Sheldonsoul Posted June 16, 2013 Posted June 16, 2013 Reckon if its 12 k now it will go for around 20 k, to me it's just an average record no where near the eddiie Parkers larry clintons etc, always sounds a bit of a crap quality recording to me 2
JON WILLIS Posted June 16, 2013 Posted June 16, 2013 Yes, but given what the insurance cost will be for a £10,000 (And that's just a guess) record, it may well be cheaper to buy a flight ! Insurance with UPS is 1% of the declared value...
Phild Posted June 16, 2013 Posted June 16, 2013 To my ears it's one of the best. I'm even thinking of letting Don Gardner go to try and secure it
Popular Post Chalky Posted June 16, 2013 Popular Post Posted June 16, 2013 It's a tub thumper of the highest order. Simply pounds along and when the sax break is done you think he is singing the record out but they just kick off again. You need oxygen when finished dancing to this, well I do....saying that I need oxygen after the slowest of dances these days Each to their own but this is what Northern Soul and all-nighters is all about. It's records like this that made you want to travel and still do, it still has that mystique about it, it's still the Del-Larks and still Butch to many who were there at the time. 8
Jim Ohara Posted June 16, 2013 Posted June 16, 2013 I'm lost for words really, you guys slagging it off; you ever turned up a record as good as this? Honestly if you were there when Butch first got this, and played it 3 times in his spot, you might have got it, magical times... Here here Tony Magical times indeed 1
Popular Post Jim Ohara Posted June 16, 2013 Popular Post Posted June 16, 2013 It's a tub thumper of the highest order. Simply pounds along and when the sax break is done you think he is singing the record out but they just kick off again. You need oxygen when finished dancing to this, well I do....saying that I need oxygen after the slowest of dances these days Each to their own but this is what Northern Soul and all-nighters is all about. It's records like this that made you want to travel and still do, it still has that mystique about it, it's still the Del-Larks and still Butch to many who were there at the time. Spot on Chalky, this is what nighters are all about Frantic, even messy at times, raw soul that if you weren't dancing to it when it got played at first by Butch, then you missed out on something very special indeed - and I don't just mean the actual record, I mean the atmosphere it created, the buzz it created, the mystique as you say Chalky - friggin brilliant to just "be at one with the record" for those few minutes, then BANG, butch would follow it with G Davis & R Tyler (Walter and the admirations) Amazing nighter records, and will never be equalled Only my opinion of coarse!!! 5
Upthejunction Posted June 16, 2013 Posted June 16, 2013 It's a tub thumper of the highest order. Simply pounds along and when the sax break is done you think he is singing the record out but they just kick off again. You need oxygen when finished dancing to this, well I do....saying that I need oxygen after the slowest of dances these days Each to their own but this is what Northern Soul and all-nighters is all about. It's records like this that made you want to travel and still do, it still has that mystique about it, it's still the Del-Larks and still Butch to many who were there at the time. Certainly one of the records that I travel for :-)
Simon T Posted June 16, 2013 Posted June 16, 2013 I'm lost for words really, you guys slagging it off; you ever turned up a record as good as this? Honestly if you were there when Butch first got this, and played it 3 times in his spot, you might have got it, magical times... 5 minutes in & penultimate track https://www.mixcloud.com/Hippopotamus/butch-lincoln-87/ 2
Marc Forrest Posted June 17, 2013 Posted June 17, 2013 First the 'Tittyshaker' and now the 'Knee Trembler' to quote John's description. Perhaps we are watching history in the making with a real possibility of Frank Wilson being knocked off his perch. Chalky nails the summary of this record earlier in the strand - as pretty close to Northern perfection as you will ever find, a record that eclipses the mega-rarities that accompany it when spun in the sets of the world's top Northern DJ eg Walter and the Admerations, Ray Agee, Martha Jean Love, Joseph Webster, Saints etc. As Tony says above, why criticise a record like this when afterall, it epitomises what the music is all about. Here is a record beyond comparison, Northern perfection, a pinnacle of collecting that most of us can only dream of... Was this an Allentown find? Has anyone out there got the full story? Will John burn up his 20% flying to Japan to ensure complete customer satisfaction by offering a 'Hand Job' as it were? Is the reclusive Mr Flynn cunningly stockpiling rare records with a view to promoting the Tokyo Casino as the first truly global all- niter? As the tension builds, snipes are set, crate- diggers in the States search frantically for a 25 count box (minus three or four records), the Manship switchboard melts down and has to outsource the auction to a Call Centre in Swansea. The Mello Souls story has certainly livened up proceedings and could well prove to be the 'kick up the backside' the scene needs to return to up-tempo, vintage 66-69 Northern with a sprinkling of unknown sounds. Frank Wilson has been knocked off its perch a long time. Both of the two Mello Souls that are now in the US and that came from UK sellers were sold for way way more than Frank Wilson. Crazy I know... 1
Tai-pan Posted June 20, 2013 Posted June 20, 2013 Frank Wilson has been knocked off its perch a long time. Both of the two Mello Souls that are now in the US and that came from UK sellers were sold for way way more than Frank Wilson. Crazy I know... I didn't realise any of the original 3 copies went back to the US Marc? 1
Chalky Posted June 21, 2013 Posted June 21, 2013 I didn't realise any of the original 3 copies went back to the US Marc? I was aware of one going to the states, don't know if it has gone yet, maybe Mick H can confIrn? Not aware of any others leaving these shores.
Guest Seagrave Posted June 21, 2013 Posted June 21, 2013 (edited) Frank Wilson has been knocked off its perch a long time. Both of the two Mello Souls that are now in the US and that came from UK sellers were sold for way way more than Frank Wilson. Crazy I know... For more than £25.7k? (yes, that's pounds - not dollars or euros) Really?!! In the extremely unlikely event that this is not just another tall story, I suspect the 'lucky' buyer of that copy is about to find out they could have got a better one a few grand cheaper on JM's. Edited June 23, 2013 by Seagrave
Len Posted June 21, 2013 Posted June 21, 2013 (edited) I'm lost for words really, you guys slagging it off; you ever turned up a record as good as this? Honestly if you were there when Butch first got this, and played it 3 times in his spot, you might have got it, magical times... I am envious of you Tony - It must have been f*ckin' amazing to be there when he first played it......All this attention on it don't seem right somehow..... All the best, Len Edited June 21, 2013 by LEN
Guest CARL D Posted June 21, 2013 Posted June 21, 2013 Stunning stormer! Fast,furious and unrelentingly pounding Northern Soul! Stunning! My neighbour thought it was an underground punk unknown from the 70s,lol!!!! Auction winner could b someone famous,where money's no object? Several are know to be into the music? Carl.
Theresa Posted June 21, 2013 Posted June 21, 2013 I'm still laughing at 'tub thumper' but it's so apt I've listened to it countless times the last couple of weeks, and I cannot help myself thumping hell out of an imaginary tub, lol. It just sounds better every time and is the distillation of my misspent youth at the 100 Club whilst never sounding old and hackneyed. What a cracking find for the geezer who turned this copy up. I doubt it'll dislodge FW from that 'most expensive' perch, but if it did it'd be poetic. 1
Steve G Posted June 21, 2013 Posted June 21, 2013 (edited) I was aware of one going to the states, don't know if it has gone yet, maybe Mick H can confIrn? Not aware of any others leaving these shores. God for the buyers sake i bloody hope so by now! I know Mick was playing it out for some time after he sold it Maybe he had a second copy Edited June 21, 2013 by Steve G 1
Premium Stuff Posted June 21, 2013 Posted June 21, 2013 (edited) I'm still laughing at 'tub thumper' but it's so apt I've listened to it countless times the last couple of weeks, and I cannot help myself thumping hell out of an imaginary tub, lol. It just sounds better every time and is the distillation of my misspent youth at the 100 Club whilst never sounding old and hackneyed. What a cracking find for the geezer who turned this copy up. I doubt it'll dislodge FW from that 'most expensive' perch, but if it did it'd be poetic. Well I have been thinking about the appropriateness of the term "tub-thumper" in this instance because:1) It reminds me of Chumbawamba.2) I have always associated it with:tub-thumper - noun - a noisy, violent, or ranting public speaker. tub-thump - verb - to argue for or promote something vigorously: "[someone] is tub-thumping for a six-month limit on the legislative session". On this basis, surely Chalky would be the tub-thumper due to his enthusiasm for the Mello Souls 45, rather than the record being the tub-thumper?Anyway, so I decided to do a bit of research of the interweb and came up with these alternatives:tubthumper - A tub thumper is fat person usually female who eats ice cream so fast the spoon hits the bottom of the tub with a thump. Dude, that chick`s a total tubthumper! tubthumper - A turd so extraordinarily long that, when dropped, it thumps on the back of the toilet. I just dropped a tubthumper that slapped me in the balls when I squeezed it off! tubthumper A fart released whilst one is seated in a bathtub or other receptacle filled with water or other liquid. As Joan farted during her herbal bath and saw the string of bubbles wobble furiously to the surface, she thought to herself, "My goodness! That was a real tubthumper!" NB - no offence intended - I am simply reporting what I found - so don't shoot the messenger! Care to rethink the initial description of the Mello Souls anyone? Richard Edited June 21, 2013 by Premium Stuff 2
MrsWoodsrules Posted June 21, 2013 Posted June 21, 2013 Never heard of it! Always remember that Melton Mowbray address, I used to send off for Manships tapes in the 70's along with a postal order, couldn't wait for those little Memorex Cassettes to arrive in the post, always full of the rarest and best music, probably more cutting edge than Searling at the time, because you always got a good mix, Soul Sam stuff too, stuff yet to be heard at the Casino, trouble was, no track list, used to have to work em out yourself, maybe looking at the back of Black Echos for a Sam current playlist or something, no internet then. 1
Dave Pinch Posted June 21, 2013 Posted June 21, 2013 To my ears it's one of the best. I'm even thinking of letting Don Gardner go to try and secure it i think that would be a mistake
Pete S Posted June 21, 2013 Posted June 21, 2013 Well I have been thinking about the appropriateness of the term "tub-thumper" in this instance because: 1) It reminds me of Chumbawamba. 2) I have always associated it with: tub-thumper - noun - a noisy, violent, or ranting public speaker. tub-thump - verb - to argue for or promote something vigorously: "[someone] is tub-thumping for a six-month limit on the legislative session". On this basis, surely Chalky would be the tub-thumper due to his enthusiasm for the Mello-Souls 45, rather than the record being the tub-thumper? Anyway, so I decided to do a bit of research of the interweb and came up with these alternatives: tubthumper - A tub thumper is fat person usually female who eats ice cream so fast the spoon hits the bottom of the tub with a thump. Dude, that chick`s a total tubthumper! tubthumper - A turd so extraordinarily long that, when dropped, it thumps on the back of the toilet. I just dropped a tubthumper that slapped me in the balls when I squeezed it off! tubthumper A fart released whilst one is seated in a bathtub or other receptacle filled with water or other liquid. As Joan farted during her herbal bath and saw the string of bubbles wobble furiously to the surface, she thought to herself, "My goodness! That was a real tubthumper!" NB - no offence intended - I am simply reporting what I found - so don't shoot the messenger! Care to rethink the initial description of the Mello-Souls anyone? Richard Tub Thumper always referred to the drummer in a rock band as far as I know!
Theresa Posted June 21, 2013 Posted June 21, 2013 Look Richard, I think you'll find that lowering the tone has always been MY job! You just stick to stickered demos and whatever it is that you do best P.S. I AM the woman with the ice cream tub! 2
Premium Stuff Posted June 21, 2013 Posted June 21, 2013 Look Richard, I think you'll find that lowering the tone has always been MY job! You just stick to stickered demos and whatever it is that you do best P.S. I AM the woman with the ice cream tub! You're right Tee - I would probably rather have £15k (or whatever it goes for) worth of sticker demos for cheap Ric-Tics, Golden Worlds, Groovesvilles etc. than have one copy of the Mello Souls 2
John Parker Posted June 21, 2013 Posted June 21, 2013 Just wondering apart from Butch..who has a copy in the UK? I know it's been on the decks twice at York Soul Club..c/o Mick H and Kenny Burrell but it appears those/that copy has gone West
John A Posted June 21, 2013 Posted June 21, 2013 Just wondering apart from Butch..who has a copy in the UK? I know it's been on the decks twice at York Soul Club..c/o Mick H and Kenny Burrell but it appears those/that copy has gone West same copy isn't it.. I'm sure Mick recently said on here he still has it......it does make me laugh though. Butch,Mick,Kitch and any one else who's had this record are all on here and could put the record straight at any time but don't...they must get a kick out of the little people speculating on what's what and this and that!!
John Parker Posted June 21, 2013 Posted June 21, 2013 Pretty sure that at least 2 of those copies have been sold..unless there is an issue of doubles The mind boggles
Theresa Posted June 21, 2013 Posted June 21, 2013 You're right Tee - I would probably rather have £15k (or whatever it goes for) worth of sticker demos for cheap Ric-Tics, Golden Worlds, Groovesvilles etc. than have one copy of the Mello Souls I can see where you're coming from Kung Fu boy. Likewise, on the right day of the month I'd rather have 15 grand's worth of Haagen Dazs. You'd have to be a very confident circuit DJ to buy this and play it out I think, as it's such a big signature tune for someone else. I can just picture it slipping with barely a whisper into the hermetically stored crisp pristine sleeves of a minty completist collector, never to be heard again. Hope not though
Guest Bearsy Posted June 21, 2013 Posted June 21, 2013 I remember posting a comment about Mello Souls about 6 or 7 years ago saying I don't rate it its too messy etc etc. first time I heard it out loud it blue me away and its been a fave of mine ever since, I will defo be having a punt on it at the end of the week .... If them bloody lottery numbers come in :-)
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