Derek Pearson Posted May 28, 2013 Share Posted May 28, 2013 (edited) Top 3 labels that only have one known release which is a classic: Topic title edited to: Best three Records On Labels That Are One-Offs (you're right George that does read better) With such a lengthy topic title let me explain how it became so........ The continual list maker in me loved compiling or starting to compile label discographies and it was back in 2007 that I started delving into a certain label out of Louisville, Kentucky. Now I'd only ever seen one release on this imprint but was delighted to obtain details of a second 45 that slipped out later barely un-noticed. My thread bare notes soon got submerged way deeper than deep into my hard drive and were forgotten about until I stumbled upon them purely by chance a week or so ago. On re-reading my scribbles I suddenly thought of an interesting sort of thread but as I was developing what words to use another possible thread (which I don't think has been covered before) came screaming out of somewhere/nowhere to take first spot. What labels have only ever had one known release and that solitary lone 45 has become a rock solid bona fide nailed on ball banging classic? And then mi mind went blank. Phut. The light was on but nobody was home. Nothing was coming out. I'd thought of a question but couldn't think of a single answer to it. And I didn't cheat by wading through various guides or spending hours on the web and yes I know I'll be mildly embarrassed possibly by the answers other readers might send in. So I ask again what labels have only ever had one known release and that solitary lone 45 has become a rock solid bona fide nailed on ball banging classic? And from that list what would be the Top 3. The only answer that popped into my mind (eventually) was the Bonnie label and their one-off never to be repeated Magnetics 45. That's gotta be in the top 3 surely. Any ideas for the other 2? Derek Oh and obscurities that only a few have ever heard of don't count - gotta be well known classics. Edited May 28, 2013 by Derek Pearson Link to comment Social source share More sharing options...
George G Posted May 28, 2013 Share Posted May 28, 2013 The question should probably read 'best three records on labels that are one-offs'. For most of these, there is no 'label', it's a vanity recording paid for by the artist or a benefactor close to the artist. Mello Souls? Link to comment Social source share More sharing options...
The Yank Posted May 28, 2013 Share Posted May 28, 2013 (edited) Luther Ingram- "If It's All The Same To You Babe"/ "Exus Trek" on H.I.B. ? Larry Clinton- "She's Wanted" Dynamo- this Dynamo wasn't related to the label distributed by Musicor. Can't think of a third one.... Edited May 28, 2013 by the yank Link to comment Social source share More sharing options...
Mick Holdsworth Posted May 28, 2013 Share Posted May 28, 2013 (edited) Nomads - Somethin's Bad - Mo-Groov ? Conony 13 - Greater Experience ?? Edited May 28, 2013 by Mick Holdsworth Link to comment Social source share More sharing options...
Trev Thomas Posted May 28, 2013 Share Posted May 28, 2013 (edited) robby lawson - kyser john & wierdest - tie chandlers - col-soul larry allen - green dolphin tamala lewis - marton servicemen - chartmaker servicemen - wind hit eric mercury - sac melvin davis - wheel city billy arnell - holly construction - sync 6 lynn vernardo - yummie ambassadors - pee vee soul set - bi-me sandy hadley - so-char Edited May 28, 2013 by trev thomas Link to comment Social source share More sharing options...
Tony Smith Posted May 28, 2013 Share Posted May 28, 2013 tamala lewis - marton servicemen - chartmaker melvin davis - wheel city ambassadors - pee vee There are more than one release on these labels Trev. Link to comment Social source share More sharing options...
Trev Thomas Posted May 28, 2013 Share Posted May 28, 2013 tamala lewis - marton servicemen - chartmaker melvin davis - wheel city ambassadors - pee vee There are more than one release on these labels Trev. i wasn't 100% sure, i'll edit list, cheers tony Link to comment Social source share More sharing options...
Derek Pearson Posted May 28, 2013 Author Share Posted May 28, 2013 For most of these, there is no 'label', it's a vanity recording paid for by the artist or a benefactor close to the artist. What a great statement George I'd never really thought about these one-off releases like that (or if I did I'd forgotten). Great replies chaps and every record suggested were blindingly obvious and made me go "Doh! Of course; how could I forget that....." Nice One. Derek Link to comment Social source share More sharing options...
Guest Posted May 28, 2013 Share Posted May 28, 2013 servicemen - wind hit construction - sync 6 These two labels also had more than one release. Link to comment Social source share More sharing options...
Windlesoul Posted May 28, 2013 Share Posted May 28, 2013 Nomads - Somethin's Bad - Mo-Groov ? Conony 13 - Greater Experience ?? There are country records on Colony 13 Mick, not that I have come across them, no more soul though. Link to comment Social source share More sharing options...
Guest Posted May 28, 2013 Share Posted May 28, 2013 Mellow souls on Mellow. Cheers Chris. Link to comment Social source share More sharing options...
Guest Posted May 28, 2013 Share Posted May 28, 2013 Ps spelt it wrong,but you know what I mean. Link to comment Social source share More sharing options...
Dobber Posted May 28, 2013 Share Posted May 28, 2013 court davis-try to think-east cost Link to comment Social source share More sharing options...
Rick Cooper Posted May 28, 2013 Share Posted May 28, 2013 Eddie Parker- Love You Baby - Ashford 1 Link to comment Social source share More sharing options...
Ted Massey Posted May 28, 2013 Share Posted May 28, 2013 Magnetics Lady in green Bonnie ? 1 Link to comment Social source share More sharing options...
George G Posted May 28, 2013 Share Posted May 28, 2013 Lots of other records on this label court davis-try to think-east cost Link to comment Social source share More sharing options...
George G Posted May 28, 2013 Share Posted May 28, 2013 Eddie Parker- Love You Baby - Ashford 1 Besides Eddie Parker "I'm Gone", are there any other records on the Awake label? (not to be confused with different Awake labels) - if not, that one gets my vote for #1 Link to comment Social source share More sharing options...
George G Posted May 28, 2013 Share Posted May 28, 2013 chandlers - col-soul soul set - bi-me The Soul Set is a pefect example of the non label vanity press. I guess this was recorded at Arthur Smith studio in Charlotte, The Col-Soul label was supposed to be a label used for soul artists that were recorded at Musicol in Columbus, OH. I talked to studio owner John Hull and Jeff Smith about this 15-20 years ago. There was supposed to be two labels, Ironbeat for rock and Col-Soul for soul. Ironbeat had several releases but for various reasons Col Soul only had the one 45. Weird because the Chandlers record sold a lot more copies than any of the Ironbeat rock/garage 45s. 1 Link to comment Social source share More sharing options...
Dazz Posted May 28, 2013 Share Posted May 28, 2013 There are also other releases on East Coast Green Dolphin Sac Holly and So-char What about Genebro - Margaret Little, and Harper-Soul - Benny Harper Link to comment Social source share More sharing options...
Dazz Posted May 28, 2013 Share Posted May 28, 2013 Magnetics Lady in green Bonnie ? 4 or 5 releases on Bonnie Ted Link to comment Social source share More sharing options...
Steve Ss Posted May 28, 2013 Share Posted May 28, 2013 Besides Eddie Parker "I'm Gone", are there any other records on the Awake label? (not to be confused with different Awake labels) - if not, that one gets my vote for #1 Shane Hunter Sweet Things Link to comment Social source share More sharing options...
Kevinkent Posted May 28, 2013 Share Posted May 28, 2013 Emmitt Long - Call Me - Donoyia - Kev Link to comment Social source share More sharing options...
Ted Massey Posted May 28, 2013 Share Posted May 28, 2013 4 or 5 releases on Bonnie Ted would like to see them Dazz Link to comment Social source share More sharing options...
Premium Stuff Posted May 28, 2013 Share Posted May 28, 2013 How about these?: Patti Young - Head And Shoulders (Above The Rest) on Ernstrat Nelson Sanders - Mojo Man (Rambler) Four Tracks - Like My Love For You (Mandingo) - is there anything else on this logo? Joe L - (I'm Not Gonna be) Worried (Clissac) Jack Montgomery - Don't Turn Your Back On Me (Barracuda) Cheers Richard Link to comment Social source share More sharing options...
The Yank Posted May 28, 2013 Share Posted May 28, 2013 Isn't there a Gloria and the Relations release on Bonnie ? Link to comment Social source share More sharing options...
Dazz Posted May 28, 2013 Share Posted May 28, 2013 would like to see them Dazz To be fair Ted probably not the Magnetics Bonnie label but a selection of Doo Wop and Funk on Bonnie, nowt you'd be interested in Other records on Barracuda and possibly a Barons record on Ernstrat How about Ellipsis on Briarmeade and Sharp-etts on Perma-Hit Link to comment Social source share More sharing options...
Dazz Posted May 28, 2013 Share Posted May 28, 2013 Isn't there a Gloria and the Relations release on Bonnie ? Date with a man/Hook line and sinker 101 as said though Dave probably not the Magnetics label How are you mate by the way? I'll PM you later Dazz Link to comment Social source share More sharing options...
Premium Stuff Posted May 28, 2013 Share Posted May 28, 2013 (edited) Other records on Barracuda and possibly a Barons record on Ernstrat There is more than one Barracuda label e.g. Billy Watson is different label. That Barons rings a bell actually - what the score? Cheers Richard Edited May 28, 2013 by Premium Stuff Link to comment Social source share More sharing options...
Dazz Posted May 28, 2013 Share Posted May 28, 2013 There is more than one Barracuda label e.g. Billy Watson is different label. That Barons rings a bell actually - what the score? Cheers Richard Barons Since you're gone/My smile is bigger (than your smile) issued definately on RCA but rumoured on Ernstrat talking of rumoured records isn't Jock Mitchell Chance in a million supposed to be on Barracuda? Dazz Link to comment Social source share More sharing options...
Premium Stuff Posted May 28, 2013 Share Posted May 28, 2013 Barons Since you're gone/My smile is bigger (than your smile) issued definately on RCA but rumoured on Ernstrat talking of rumoured records isn't Jock Mitchell Chance in a million supposed to be on Barracuda? Dazz RCA is a different Barons group isn't it - not the group on Soul etc. The label says produced for Holton Records. Never heard that about Jock Mitchell on Barracuda Cheers Richard Link to comment Social source share More sharing options...
Rick Cooper Posted May 28, 2013 Share Posted May 28, 2013 Anyone know why Eddie Parker - Love You Baby- was the only release on Ashford?The label did overseas deals, had a special designed logo and pressed demos so probably not a vanity project. Has Ms Chandler said anything about the label? Any explanation of the other one-off labels? Rick Link to comment Social source share More sharing options...
Ted Massey Posted May 28, 2013 Share Posted May 28, 2013 To be fair Ted probably not the Magnetics Bonnie label but a selection of Doo Wop and Funk on Bonnie, nowt you'd be interested in Other records on Barracuda and possibly a Barons record on Ernstrat How about Ellipsis on Briarmeade and Sharp-etts on Perma-Hit theres no release number on the Magnetics label Link to comment Social source share More sharing options...
Guest sharmo 1 Posted May 28, 2013 Share Posted May 28, 2013 Isn't there a Gloria and the Relations release on Bonnie This is the red label Bonnie I'm sure this is New York release ..but could be wrong. Link to comment Social source share More sharing options...
Gilly Posted May 28, 2013 Share Posted May 28, 2013 This is the red label Bonnie I'm sure this is New York release ..but could be wrong. Your right on that Simon Link to comment Social source share More sharing options...
tosspot Posted May 28, 2013 Share Posted May 28, 2013 Your right on that Simon you boys are boffins te he Link to comment Social source share More sharing options...
Guest Gogs Posted May 29, 2013 Share Posted May 29, 2013 I know that there was 2 issues on the label (but the other wasn;t soul as far as i'm aware) so i'm going to put in The Sheltons= Find it = Bar-bare. Link to comment Social source share More sharing options...
George G Posted May 29, 2013 Share Posted May 29, 2013 No, but I think one of the people behind this record did something else on a different label later - It was too modern for me to pay close attention. BTW the street name is mispelled on the label. It should be Dorr Ave. A few blocks down on the same street was Clarks record store and the Clarks/Glass City label - Romona (sic) Collins, Casuals, Jimmy Holloway..... How about these?: Four Tracks - Like My Love For You (Mandingo) - is there anything else on this logo? Link to comment Social source share More sharing options...
boba Posted May 29, 2013 Share Posted May 29, 2013 No, but I think one of the people behind this record did something else on a different label later - It was too modern for me to pay close attention. magnificent opinions on skippyophonic? Link to comment Social source share More sharing options...
Robbk Posted May 29, 2013 Share Posted May 29, 2013 4 or 5 releases on Bonnie Ted On Duke Browner's Bonnie Records out of Detroit? I'd love to know about those. I hadn't heard about any others. Can we see a list with catalogue numbers? Link to comment Social source share More sharing options...
Ted Massey Posted May 29, 2013 Share Posted May 29, 2013 On Duke Browner's Bonnie Records out of Detroit? I'd love to know about those. I hadn't heard about any others. Can we see a list with catalogue numbers? I think he was getting confused Robb, as i said there's no label number on Lady in green Link to comment Social source share More sharing options...
mshoals Posted May 29, 2013 Share Posted May 29, 2013 To be fair Ted probably not the Magnetics Bonnie label but a selection of Doo Wop and Funk on Bonnie, nowt you'd be interested in Other records on Barracuda and possibly a Barons record on Ernstrat How about Ellipsis on Briarmeade and Sharp-etts on Perma-Hit There are other releases on Briarmeade, such as at least 2 Frankie Ford 45s. Link to comment Social source share More sharing options...
boba Posted May 29, 2013 Share Posted May 29, 2013 I know that there was 2 issues on the label (but the other wasn;t soul as far as i'm aware) so i'm going to put in The Sheltons= Find it = Bar-bare. not even close: https://greenvilleandbeyond.wordpress.com/labels/bar-bare/ Link to comment Social source share More sharing options...
Guest Gogs Posted May 29, 2013 Share Posted May 29, 2013 not even close: https://greenvilleandbeyond.wordpress.com/labels/bar-bare/ Learn something new every day, Thanks Bob. Link to comment Social source share More sharing options...
Guest Posted May 29, 2013 Share Posted May 29, 2013 There are also other releases on Green Dolphin Sac Holly Really, I've never had the pleasure...anything any good? Link to comment Social source share More sharing options...
Mal C Posted May 29, 2013 Share Posted May 29, 2013 (edited) Antwans is a good one, on I assume their own label 'Snawtna', god I had to concentrate to write that down 521 records is another maybe? one Soul 45 of note in Paul Waters, the rest are, well.... erm, not soul really, you might say R&B'ish, lots of Novelty 45's... Ive certainly not come across anything else that's as good as the Walters 45, and boy have I looked.. How about these, Margaret Glover on MAG, Majestic on Equator, Nora Lee on Westwood, Franciscans on JIMBO, The Phanton on Karisma.... Melvin Elling on Stretch perhaps, never seen another soul 45 on that label, Johnny Stewart on START, again just the one 45, and come to think of it, Dee Dee Warwick on HERD? I might be wrong but these all seem to 'just the one'... Mal.C Edited May 29, 2013 by Mal.C. Link to comment Social source share More sharing options...
Premium Stuff Posted May 29, 2013 Share Posted May 29, 2013 (edited) How about these, Margaret Glover on MAG, Majestic on Equator, Nora Lee on Westwood, Franciscans on JIMBO, The Phanton on Karisma.... There are at least two other releases on MAG mate I have the Chanels on MAG and a scan of another one somewhere. Cheers Richard Edited May 29, 2013 by Premium Stuff Link to comment Social source share More sharing options...
George G Posted May 29, 2013 Share Posted May 29, 2013 Several other records on Westwood, most notably the Soul Toranadoes Does anyone think the Franciscans, Nora Lee, Antwans are "classics"? I thought the idea for this topic was to include consensus all time great soul, or Northern Soul, records.....don't think any of these would be so. Antwans is a good one, on I assume their own label 'Snawtna', god I had to concentrate to write that down .. How about these, Margaret Glover on MAG, Majestic on Equator, Nora Lee on Westwood, Franciscans on JIMBO, The Phanton on Karisma.... Link to comment Social source share More sharing options...
MrsWoodsrules Posted May 29, 2013 Share Posted May 29, 2013 Chico Lamar, What Do You Think I Am, Fuller I did think Pat & The Blenders on Fast Eddie, but discogs have another record on it. Link to comment Social source share More sharing options...
Mal C Posted May 29, 2013 Share Posted May 29, 2013 (edited) Does anyone think the Franciscans, Nora Lee, Antwans are "classics"? I thought the idea for this topic was to include consensus all time great soul, or Northern Soul, records.....don't think any of these would be so. ---------- Just go right ahead my friend, you be a blunt as you need to be... Mal.C Edited May 29, 2013 by Mal.C. Link to comment Social source share More sharing options...
Dazz Posted May 29, 2013 Share Posted May 29, 2013 On Duke Browner's Bonnie Records out of Detroit? I'd love to know about those. I hadn't heard about any others. Can we see a list with catalogue numbers? Hi Rob As I said I don't think they are anything to do with the Detroit Label Chuck Bennett Bonnie 101 Gloria & Relations already mentioned Happy Daze Bonnie 101 Tokays Bonnie 102 I think he was getting confused Robb, as i said there's no label number on Lady in green No number on label Ted but isn't 107374 on the deadwax somewhere? There are other releases on Briarmeade, such as at least 2 Frankie Ford 45s. Didn't know about those, should have guessed with Ellipsis being 7604 Really, I've never had the pleasure...anything any good? Hi Dave There's a tune by Billy Prince and the wonderously titled Porky Chedwick - Porkology/Can I change my mind on Green Dolphin also one by Joey G On SAC Paul Varisco & Milestones On Holly Ronnie North and also Robert Epps probably not the Billy Arnell Holly though What about Soul Bros Inc on Golden Eye? Link to comment Social source share More sharing options...
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