Chalky Posted May 18, 2013 Posted May 18, 2013 Basically this topic is about issues you don't see very often, not issues that doesn't exist, is that correct? I don't think I've heard or read of one that doesn't exist yet unless I missed the post?
Soulman Posted May 18, 2013 Posted May 18, 2013 Personally I would have thought the answer was glaringly obvious according to legend...... Frank Wilson "Do I Love You" Steve
Guest Posted May 18, 2013 Posted May 18, 2013 I have never seen a Chubby Checker "You Just Don't Know" on USA Parkway issue. "Let Me Make You Happy" Billy Woods. Coloured Sussex demos as far as I know! "Ever Again" - Bernie Williams - Bell issue?
Agentsmith Posted May 18, 2013 Author Posted May 18, 2013 (edited) Basically this topic is about issues you don't see very often, not issues that doesn't exist, is that correct? I don't think I've heard or read of one that doesn't exist yet unless I missed the post? i meant the "dosn't exist?" as i said it, to establish if anyone knows the validity of issue's, that basically applies to anything, but there are,as we all know certain items which were believed not to and have, in the course of time, turned up, quite all-of-a-sudden. it possibly also follows that there are things we still don't know that exist but in collections of people who maybe have nothing to do with the scene at all e.g. deep collectors, doowop collectors etc. i know it's stating the obvious, but it's great that we still want to learn things and pass it on, keep digging for the truth. yes it's also about issues that are known about but have been seen by so few people, they've been forgotten about, so naturally it can be assumed, mistakenly, that they don't exist. i'm pretty sure tim brown auctioned an issue of bernie williams last year, just for the record. it would also be interesting to hear what people think about the chubby checker, as mentioned, particularly the label design...half moon or hexagonal?...assuming it exists. , personally, will never forget when i first set eyes on the earl jackson issue, garry field had aqquired it and bought it with him to colne municipal in a small box of sales, must have been 2003 and this was just legend at the time!. Edited May 18, 2013 by AGENTSMITH
Premium Stuff Posted May 18, 2013 Posted May 18, 2013 Basically this topic is about issues you don't see very often, not issues that doesn't exist, is that correct? I don't think I've heard or read of one that doesn't exist yet unless I missed the post? Chalky - my post #28 said this : If we are talking does not exist as issue: Precisions - Sugar Ain't Sweet (Drew) Edwin Starr - Scott's On Swingers (Ric-Tic)
Agentsmith Posted May 18, 2013 Author Posted May 18, 2013 Chalky - my post #28 said this : If we are talking does not exist as issue: Precisions - Sugar Ain't Sweet (Drew) Edwin Starr - Scott's On Swingers (Ric-Tic) these are examples we would all agree on yes?, and there are probably more, but the probability of finding others that we still haven't seen, is very real, this has been born out in recent years......you can never say absolutely never.
sepia Posted May 18, 2013 Posted May 18, 2013 curley moore / you don't mean / sansu I haven't seen an issue,is there one?.
snooky Posted May 18, 2013 Posted May 18, 2013 I have never seen a Chubby Checker "You Just Don't Know" on USA Parkway issue. "Let Me Make You Happy" Billy Woods. Coloured Sussex demos as far as I know! "Ever Again" - Bernie Williams - Bell issue? Has Pete french got an issue of Bernie Williams
45cellar Posted May 18, 2013 Posted May 18, 2013 I have never seen a Chubby Checker "You Just Don't Know" on USA Parkway issue. "Let Me Make You Happy" Billy Woods. Coloured Sussex demos as far as I know! "Ever Again" - Bernie Williams - Bell issue? I don't think "You Just Don't Know" is out there as a Stock Copy. However ; Just when you think that it isn't there, a copy turns up. Or in this case, a copy for each coast. I've only ever seen them via the Scans below. This one certainly exists on a Stock Copy, but where are they and why are they so Rare ? Chubby Checker was the Big Name at the Label via the Various Dance Craze related singles. How come his Later singles reached the Promotion stage and then shelved / virtually shelved. The UK Obviously had the go ahead for "You Just Don't Know" to be released. It just adds to the puzzle regarding the U.S.A. release.EAST COAST : www.PopSike.com WEST COAST : www.PopSike.com
45cellar Posted May 19, 2013 Posted May 19, 2013 I know that this has been discussed many times before on such topics. I still see it listed as being there, but to date, no one has provided evidence of a stock copy. The Star Treks - Gonna Need Magic Years of searching. etc.
Agentsmith Posted May 19, 2013 Author Posted May 19, 2013 (edited) I don't think "You Just Don't Know" is out there as a Stock Copy. However ; Just when you think that it isn't there, a copy turns up. Or in this case, a copy for each coast. I've only ever seen them via the Scans below. This one certainly exists on a Stock Copy, but where are they and why are they so Rare ? Chubby Checker was the Big Name at the Label via the Various Dance Craze related singles. How come his Later singles reached the Promotion stage and then shelved / virtually shelved. The UK Obviously had the go ahead for "You Just Don't Know" to be released. It just adds to the puzzle regarding the U.S.A. release.EAST COAST : www.PopSike.com WEST COAST : www.PopSike.com great scans!, who would have dreamed of that?, possibly speaking for the majority of folks other than the exceptional collectors. at some point parkway must have decided to cut their costs as their commercial hits dwindled because the coloured issues also doubled up as demo's...is that the wrong train of thinking?...they had two pressing plants, perhaps one had more clout with the radio stations so still sent out white demo's...it''s confusing!,...my cameo demo of deep, dark secret is actually the stock label issue ( black/red/white cameo ) the label on the b-side is totally blank, no printing at all, so that one should have been binned!. i think the rareity probably speaks for itself, by the time of this, and many other releases, parkway were in dire financial straits, they were desperate for one big hit, which never came...they turned to the black music bandwagon after their disasterous court case over the beatles hurt them so bad...the irony is cameo-parkway releases from that era onwards became one of our most staple collectables, so many desirable records...the material coming out of the south street studio's was fantastic...without doubt the company's greatest attribute for which we should be thankful. it spawned a host of philadelphian talent who went on to better things elsewhere, primarily with gamble & huff. at the end of the day,...it's such a great label to look at, in both formats, it's northern soul history in a nutshell!. Edited May 19, 2013 by AGENTSMITH
Kev John Posted May 19, 2013 Posted May 19, 2013 anyone seen an issue of Tom Green on Evolution with Endless Confusion on? Hi Jim I've never seen of this on Evolution would be nice to see 1 only got it on UK Action atb Kev
Tobytyke Posted May 20, 2013 Posted May 20, 2013 did funky butter by the chosen few on british action ever get a release, its listed in all the price guides.?
Pete S Posted May 28, 2013 Posted May 28, 2013 King George on RCA issue? Had one last year, no takers. Might still be able to get that actually, it was a commission sale so gave it back to the owner. * I apologise, it did sell, except I've removed the sale price for some reason! I now have another black stock copy of King George for sale if anyone interested
Premium Stuff Posted May 28, 2013 Posted May 28, 2013 Anyone ever seen issues of these two - or even better can supply scans please? Judi & Affections - Ain't Gonna Hurt My Pride (Top Ten) Terry Warren - I Don't Know (Ric-Tic 106) First Series Cheers Richard
Robbk Posted May 29, 2013 Posted May 29, 2013 Harvey 122-Keith (Stacy Adams) Moss-"Satisfaction Guaranteed"/River of Love"
Guest Posted May 29, 2013 Posted May 29, 2013 Arin Demain on Blue Star...can't recall seeing a stock copy...anyone?
Pete S Posted May 29, 2013 Posted May 29, 2013 Arin Demain on Blue Star...can't recall seeing a stock copy...anyone? I've never seen ANY copy in the flesh LOL
pikeys dog Posted May 29, 2013 Posted May 29, 2013 did funky butter by the chosen few on british action ever get a release, its listed in all the price guides.? Never seen one after looking for it for 15+ years. Not even had a sniff. 1
Mick Holdsworth Posted May 30, 2013 Posted May 30, 2013 Arin Demain on Blue Star...can't recall seeing a stock copy...anyone? There's some copies with a different label design to the norm, but can't remember if these are also demo's or not
Guest Posted May 31, 2013 Posted May 31, 2013 There's some copies with a different label design to the norm, but can't remember if these are also demo's or not I've seen three variants, but all demos: West Coast blue label demo ( the most common!), West Coast WD and the blue label with 'star' design. Stunning track that still does it for me...fab swinging flip side as well.
Mick Holdsworth Posted June 1, 2013 Posted June 1, 2013 I've seen three variants, but all demos: West Coast blue label demo ( the most common!), West Coast WD and the blue label with 'star' design. Stunning track that still does it for me...fab swinging flip side as well. Thought that would probably be the case
Guest Posted June 1, 2013 Posted June 1, 2013 Thought that would probably be the case ...and a nightmare for completists!
Tlscapital Posted June 1, 2013 Posted June 1, 2013 Do blue issues exist though Tony? Does exist. I've seen it some 15 years ago or so at a Belgian pop-corn collector's hoie who used to have few good contacts in the United States. I know he paid some good money for it. He didn't tell me how much back then since I didn't ask him. It was the blue plastic label. So it does exist defo. Now he got most his collection stolen few years after that and he became bitter and suspicious about many people on and from the pop-corn scene. I can't say if he still has it or not. And I don't feel confortable asking him if that one was stolen or not to provide a scan of it. It must still hurt him I believe. He had about 10.000 OVO 45's and about 7.000 were stolen !
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