Cheap Record - Rare Demo

[45cellar]

A Few More

 

[45cellar]

J J BARNES  PLEASE LET ME IN   RIC TIC WDJ    Pretty hard to find ...well for me it is ...??

 

You're right, I have only ever had the one realistic chance of owning this in 44 years of collecting.

 

[Tricky]

That Fontella Bass looks nice.Never seen that before!

[Premium Stuff]

You're right, I have only ever had the one realistic chance of owning this in 44 years of collecting.

One kind of snuck through eBay about two weeks ago. Was listed as the other side. Went for about £150. Not great nick. That's at least two on eBay in the last six or eight months.

Cheers

Richard

[Kegsy]

Johnnie Taylor   Changes   Pretty tough on a Demo IMHO.

Kegsy

[Ernie Andrews]

What about Gene Chandler constellation  white demos - Cheap as chips on issues but white demos?

Also The Esquires on Bunky- again real cheapies on issues but not easy on white demos

[Jim G]

Bunky Demo below from my box

 

 

[Rick Cooper]

Couldn't agree more. Finding demos on bona-fide hits is difficult. I've got some hellishly tough promos many of which have never made it to either Discogs or E-Bay yet.....

 

Ian D

Ian

What condition are they in? I never found any mint demos of big hits. The ones I've seen were all in a really bad state. I went to a couple of US radio stations in the 70s and the DJs would throw the unsleeved  singles around without a care.

 

Any chance of  scans of some of yours

 

Rick

[Rick Cooper]

Roger

The Cliff Nobles " Horse" demo looks as though it's one sided, so was there a demo of "Love is All Right" before this as I thought the Horse was  the B side originally. The story was that radio DJs flipped "Love is All Right" for "The Horse" which would be tricky for a J/G single sided demo

Rick

 

 

[45cellar]

Roger

The Cliff Nobles " Horse" demo looks as though it's one sided, so was there a demo of "Love is All Right" before this as I thought the Horse was  the B side originally. The story was that radio DJs flipped "Love is All Right" for "The Horse" which would be tricky for a J/G single sided demo

Rick

 

 

cliff nobles.jpg

Yes Rick, The copy that I have is Single Sided with a scoured vinyl "B Side" and blank Label.

 

It would suggest that It was the "A Side".

 

However;

 

Totally different Label, but this one also has a Single Sided "B Side" DEMO

 

BESTWAY PRESS :

Different Side Promoted on this Single Sided DEMO

[Northern Soul Uk]

Got this through the other day too.
Great cheap record (£6) and nice on a demo.

[dthedrug]

 HI ALL... .Got all behind in my actions this week has been mostly daydreaming! don't ask, any way..

Here's 2 from of my  UK shelves (a wall of Soul), Both are really hard to get now, 

Have not seen a John Andrews for sale in years, with 1 exception Pete S sale of the decade,

Fats Domino for some you  may be known as it was a end-er record in the late 6ts like Time is Tight, Green Onions, Every body go home, Festival time,

But if you are old school "it keeps raining it's the spot"...VALUE TODAY FOR THE 2 £500 ANY DAY,

DAVE K

[Northern Soul Uk]

 HI ALL... .Got all behind in my actions this week has been mostly daydreaming! don't ask, any way..

Here's 2 from of my  UK shelves (a wall of Soul), Both are really hard to get now, 

Have not seen a John Andrews for sale in years, with 1 exception Pete S sale of the decade,

Fats Domino for some you  may be known as it was a end-er record in the late 6ts like Time is Tight, Green Onions, Every body go home, Festival time,

But if you are old school "it keeps raining it's the spot"...VALUE TODAY FOR THE 2 £500 ANY DAY,

001.jpgDAVE K

Just got a fats Domino 'It keeps raining' with 'I'm walking (to new Orleans' on the B side. Not a promo, but both top tracks.

[Guest Gogs]

Don't know anything about this one from my box, (except that in JM's latest guide issue listed as £50 and demo at £200) (pages 559 and 91)

[45cellar]

To help us get Al Wilson out of our heads, I'm sure we can all think of loads of fantastic white demos on the Motown labels and Atlantic. Even these two:

 

Miracles - Tears Of A Clown, and

Soul Brothers Six - I'll Be Loving You

 

are very decent collectors' pieces.

 

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[45cellar]

[Northern Soul Uk]

Don't know if these qualify? Nothing rare, just nice to look at (my opinion)
Click on image to enlarge.

Edited May 10, 2013 by Northern Soul UK

[Dave Moore]

Here's a few from the shelves of my record room. Nothing uber rare but you'll have to have a good look round when searching for some of them. I'd say the hardest to find was The Capitols Karen 45.  Had owned the stocker for 15 years until I eventually located a WDJ. Some of the Motown Styrene WDJs are particularly hard in pristine nick in my experience too.

 

   

    

     

     

   

   

   

[Premium Stuff]

Hi Dave

 

That Ad-Libs on Karen is debatable as being harder and more expensive than the issue I reckon.

 

Some folk reckon the issue is harder - and I think price-wise they are possibly in a similar  ball-park 

 

By comparison - that Capitols on Karen must be well hard 

 

Cheers

 

Richard

Edited May 10, 2013 by Premium Stuff

[Dave Moore]

Hi Dave

 

That Ad-Libs on Karen is debatable as being harder and more expensive than the issue I reckon.

 

Some folk reckon the issue is harder - and I think price-wise they are possibly in a similar  ball-park 

 

By comparison - that Capitols on Karen must be well hard 

 

Cheers

 

Richard

 

Hi Richard,

 

Yep as far as price in pounds is concerned I'd certainly agree Mate. But the Ad Libs is a Mint-  and I'd think they are not as common in that nick as a stocker issue. Plus, sometimes it's not about the cost of a 45 but the value to you as an individual collector.  A good example is Dickie and The Ebbtides on GW. Terrible record but hard to find so the cost of it is high but the actual value to me is nil. Yet I've seen many more Dickie and The Ebbtides than, say a Rose Batiste Holding Hands Demo or a Sunliners - All Alone Demo in perfect nick.  Yell you what....it's a funnee ole game this collecting lark eh?

 

Regards,

 

Dave

 

PS -I'll try and sort a few more out to contribute next week. Good thread.

[Guest]

Please sir, may I have some more

[MotownDave]

I see the British stuff creeping in so how about Edwin Starr Stop her on sight / I Have faith in you , on polydor demo that must be right up there. the demo is near impossible yet the issue is everywhere

[kevinsoulman]

what about the atco demo for percy sledge

kev

[kevinsoulman]

Here's a few from the shelves of my record room. Nothing uber rare but you'll have to have a good look round when searching for some of them. I'd say the hardest to find was The Capitols Karen 45.  Had owned the stocker for 15 years until I eventually located a WDJ. Some of the Motown Styrene WDJs are particularly hard in pristine nick in my experience too.

 

1527 - Ad Libs - Think Of Me - DEMO.jpg  1549 - CAPITOLS - WHEN YOURE IN TROUBLE - DEMO.jpg  2052 - Johnny Wyatt - This Thing Called Love - DEMO.jpg

Arctic 141 - Honey and The Bees - Why Do You Hurt The One Who Loves You - DEMO.jpg  Argo 5412-Yvonne Baker-Eyes DEMO.jpg   Artistics - This Heart Of Mine - Okeh DEMO.jpg

Artistics - This Heart Of Mine - Okeh DEMO.jpg   Barbara Greene - Young Boy - Renee DEMO.jpg  Contours - Just A Little Misunderstanding - Gordy DEMO.jpg

Dee Irwin - I Only Get This Feeling - Redd Coach Demo.jpg  Donnie Elbert Run Little Girl - Gateway DEMO.jpg  Fantasions - Unecessary Tears - Satellite DEMO.jpg

Fashions-When Love Slips Away-20th Century Fox- Demo.jpg  Five Stairsteps - Change Of Pace - Windy City DEMO.jpg  Gamble 204B-Intruders-Check Yourself - Demo.jpg

Impressions - Im The One Who LOves You - DEMO.jpg  Intruders - A Love Thats Real - DEMO.jpg  Jerry Butler - Whats The Use - DEMO.jpg

Lenis Guess - Just Ask Me - Legrand DEMO.jpg  Little Anthony - Its Not The Same - Veep DEMO.jpg  LJ - Unsatisfied - Big Top DEMO.jpg

how much for the spare artistics

kev

[dthedrug]

 HI ALL, Not sure if I have put these up before, however 2 great UK DEMOS that most of you would keep in your collection, not big money, but rare, here is a big money record cost me £60  DAVE K

 

 

 THERES A HUGE PRICE DIFFERANCE IN STOCK & DEMO.   

[Ian Dewhirst]

Ian

What condition are they in? I never found any mint demos of big hits. The ones I've seen were all in a really bad state. I went to a couple of US radio stations in the 70s and the DJs would throw the unsleeved  singles around without a care.

 

Any chance of  scans of some of yours

 

Rick

 

Most of the ones I have I don't think ever reached radio stations since they're all pretty much mint. Could be ex promo stock that got dumped by the promo people. Most of 'em were bought for 10-25 cents each simply 'cos I can't resist a Soul hit on a beautiful white promo. Some are exceptionally rare. I just sold a "Why I Came To California" - Leon Ware mint Elektra promo for £60.00. I think that's every bit as rare as many Northern things.....

 

Don't have to time to scan 'em unfortunately. You may find a few on here though (once you've got past the UK stuff):-

 

https://www.discogs.com/seller/Mastercuts?format=Vinyl&condition=Mint+%28M%29&format_desc=7%22&format_desc=Promo&page=8

 

Ian D

[Northern Soul Uk]

A few more of my little babies. I do so love USA Motown related demos.

[Chris L]

Tony Clarke - Landslide - Chess

Eddie Parker - Love you baby - Ashford

 

Both rather cheap on issue and very rare on demo aren't they?

 

Can't remember when I last saw some for sale............

Edited May 14, 2013 by Chris L

[Guest Leonardo]

How about this....

[Ernie Andrews]

How about this....

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Yeah - Thats the sort of thing I was thinking about- very nice

[Guest]

Only ever had one demo copy of this forgotten thumper,,,which still sounds fabulous...what a sax break!

[Guest]

Seems to be tougher on a WD

[Guest]

Found this one today...nice on a WD...sounds fab 

[Ian Parker]

 'Sock it to em JB'  -   LIKE WDJ ? 

 

  not seen many of those I don't think  ?

[Tezza]

To help us get Al Wilson out of our heads, I'm sure we can all think of loads of fantastic white demos on the Motown labels and Atlantic. Even these two:

 

Miracles - Tears Of A Clown, and

Soul Brothers Six - I'll Be Loving You

 

are very decent collectors' pieces.

 Don't forget Al Wilson

[45cellar]

 'Sock it to em JB'  -   LIKE WDJ ? 

 

  not seen many of those I don't think  ?

I would say that It Isn't that easy to find on DEMO, Plus different pressing plants Involved.

I have seen a few different Label Variations for this on Stock Copy so are there other DEMO Variations ?

 

 

MONARCH PRESS :

 

 

For Instance, I believe that there should be a DEMO for the West Coast Monarch.

I haven't seen one but see no reason why It shouldn't be there.

 

Could be a White DEMO, may be a coloured DEMO same as Stock Copy but with PLUG SIDE,  PROMOTIONAL etc on Label.

[Gene-r]

 

But if you are old school "it keeps raining it's the spot"...VALUE TODAY FOR THE 2 £500 ANY DAY,

001.jpgDAVE K

 

I would agree Dave - about £470 for John Andrews easily, but only about £30 for the Fats demo.

[Gene-r]

I see the British stuff creeping in so how about Edwin Starr Stop her on sight / I Have faith in you , on polydor demo that must be right up there. the demo is near impossible yet the issue is everywhere

 

Yep - incredibly rare, and I'd say it's gotta be worth £500 of anyone's money.

[Britmusicsoulfan]

Oh, and how can we forget:

 

Al Wilson - The Snake - Soul City

 

... seriously, please, how can we forget ... any suggestions most gratefully received?!!

I just got the promo 2 weeks ago!

[Guest]

Oh, and how can we forget:

 

Al Wilson - The Snake - Soul City

 

... seriously, please, how can we forget ... any suggestions most gratefully received?!!

 

As a 'reminder'

[Dave Thorley]

[Guest]

Was very pleased to find this WD whilst out and about today

[Val (Chunky)]

here ya go 'Love Is All Right' on a demo first one I've ever seen

Edited August 19, 2013 by Val (Chunky)

[Val (Chunky)]

another 'Big Wheel'

[stokesoulboy]

Great scans folks, love this thread

[Premium Stuff]

Ive got a Demo of Thomas Henry -  Someday on Spar, which is pretty rare, Not a white demo, But with Demo written in...

 

here's another, sandy Hollis on WD.. Not really cheap but around the ton mark.. scans of the web but its my copy..

 

Cheers

 

Mal.

 

Here's the other side of the Sandy Hollis - "Tables Will Turn" - this is a great, great track - a real builder 

 

Cheers

 

Richard

[shute]

Only ever had one demo copy of this forgotten thumper,,,which still sounds fabulous...what a sax break!

I've had 2 of these, still got 1

 

 

 

 

 

Edited August 19, 2013 by shute

[45cellar]

here ya go 'Love Is All Right' on a demo first one I've ever seen

 

First one that I have seen too. Many Thanks for the Scan proving that both sides have obviously been promoted.

 

Meanwhile I have picked up another copy of "The Horse", Single Sided but with D J Copy

 

[Mickjay33]

WHAT ABOUT THIS MR DON THOMAS COME ON TRAIN

[Guest]

I've had 2 of these, still got 1

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Out of interest were your copies exactly the same as the one I posted up...same print layout, same size font and the "Not For Sale" wording positioned top right? Just curious as to whether the demos came from the same pressing plant. A rare demo IMO.