George Mccrae On Blue Candle....price?

[Platters 81]

common as muck on the other labels.....but not this ......labels reversed...im thinking of selling...any input appreciated......

[Tank]

Looks cool but would make it the first 'listed' Blue Candle 45?

 

Very interesting....and nice tune of course.

 

Looking forward to the experts take on this one.

[Platters 81]

its an early Blue Candle thats for sure...the orig local 45..i thing Georges first release....there was a Blue Candle label listing in an old Blackbeat mag.....

[Dave Pinch]

i still think its later than the soul city 45... local release before the united artists copy maybe

[Platters 81]

i always assumed it to be the first.....because George was a Florida artist.....and Blue Candle a Miami label....and by the credits it has a TK connection.......Soul City is LA....(.Al Wilson....5th Dimension etc )...the UA would be a reissue of Soul City thru the Johnny Rivers connection.....the Blue Candle 45 would be about 1972.

[Sebastian]

i still think its later than the soul city 45... local release before the united artists copy maybe

 

I doubt that. Both the SOUL CITY and UNITED ARTISTS releases are from 1974.

 

The Soul City issue was revieved in Billboard Magazine on 20 July 1974.

 

The BLUE CANDLE releases following the George McCrae 45 (#1493, #1494 etc.) are from 1973.

Edited April 21, 2013 by Sebastian

[Dave Pinch]

I doubt that. Both the SOUL CITY and UNITED ARTISTS releases are from 1974.

 

The Soul City issue was revieved in Billboard Magazine on 20 July 1974.

 

The BLUE CANDLE releases following the George McCrae 45 (#1493, #1494 etc.) are from 1973.

you sure sebastian. i thought soul city had ceased to be long before 73.. plus he was already in the charts with rock your baby in july 74 and thats on tk

Edited April 26, 2013 by dave pinch

[Sebastian]

you sure sebastian. i thought soul city had ceased to be long before 73.. plus he was already in the charts with rock your baby in july 74 and thats on tk

 

I looked into it a bit more and I was a bit wrong. It gets interesting.

 

The SOUL CITY release is definitely from 1974, but it seems to have been a cash-in release to capitalize on the success of "Rock Your Baby". The SOUL CITY 45 carries a United Artists catalogue number (XW-456) which places it as a 1974 release (the previous UA distributed 45 with cat# XW-455 is a Blue Note label release by the way). I don't know when Soul City ceased to release records on a regular basis, but the label seems to have been reactivated for the George McCrae release.

 

Here is the mention of the Soul City 45 in Billboard Magazine from 20 July 1974:

 

 

 

In the same issue, the "Rock Your Baby" LP is reviewed as well which seems to back the theory that the SOUL CITY 45 was a cash-in attempt:

 

 

 

However... the UNITED ARTISTS issued US 45, with cat# 50811 seems to have been released in July 1971! It is mentioned in Billboard Magazine from 31 July 1971:

 

 

 

Now I'm actually not 100% sure where the BLUE CANDLE 45 fits into it all, but I still believe that it was the local release prior to the UA 45. It can't be from 1974, that would mess up the entire Blue Candle discography.

 

The european UNITED ARTISTS releases that I have seen of this 45 are however from 1974, mirroring the SOUL CITY release.

Edited April 27, 2013 by Sebastian

[Dave Pinch]

I looked into it a bit more and it gets interesting.

 

The SOUL CITY release is definitely from 1974, but it seems to have been a cash-in release to capitalize on the success of "Rock Your Baby". The SOUL CITY 45 carries a United Artists catalogue number (XW-456) which places it as a 1974 release (the previous UA distributed 45 with cat# XW-455 is a Blue Note label release by the way). I don't know when Soul City ceased to release records on a regular basis, but the label seems to have been reactivated for the George McCrae release.

 

Here is the mention of the Soul City 45 in Billboard Magazine from 20 July 1974:

 

1974July20.jpg

 

 

In the same issue, the "Rock Your Baby" LP is reviewed as well which seems to back the theory that the SOUL CITY 45 was a cash-in attempt:

 

1974July20b.jpg

 

 

However... the UNITED ARTISTS issued US 45, with cat# 50811 seems to have been released in July 1971! It is mentioned in Billboard Magazine from 31 July 1971:

 

1971July31.jpg

 

 

Now I'm actually not 100% sure where the BLUE CANDLE 45 fits into it all, but I still believe that it was the local release prior to the UA 45. It can't be from 1974, that would mess up the entire Blue Candle discography.

yes i done a bit of homework and came up with the same info as you.. all these years i thought soul city was first as they were trading up to about 71 and i thought united artists was the cash in.....we live and learn.. i didnt think blue candle was goin in 71 tho

[Dave Pinch]

according to this the label operated between 72 and 79....certainly a strange one

lookin at the george mcrae catalogue number its probaly late 72 or early 73

 

 

 

 

 

https://www.bsnpubs.com/florida/bluecandle/bluecandle.html

Edited April 27, 2013 by dave pinch

[Sebastian]

according to this the label operated between 72 and 79....certainly a strange one

lookin at the george mcrae catalogue number its probaly late 72 or early 73

 

The BLUE CANDLE label is mentioned as being one of Henry Stone's labels in the 26 February 1972 issue of Billboard so must've been started prior to that.

 

Blue Candle #1493 is often claimed to be the first 45 on the label ("Funky Pants"/"Cutting Room" by Oceanliners), but the George McCrae 45 is earlier, i.e. #1492.

 

Edited April 27, 2013 by Sebastian

[Dave Pinch]

The BLUE CANDLE label is mentioned as being one of Henry Stone's labels in the 26 February 1972 issue of Billboard so must've been started prior to that.

 

Blue Candle #1493 is often claimed to be the first 45 on the label ("Funky Pants"/"Cutting Room" by Oceanliners), but the George McCrae 45 is earlier, i.e. #1492.

 

it does appear to be missing from the listing and probably is the first 45 on the label.....still stretching it a bit to be prior to july 71 but anythin is possible in this game... i found a VG copy that sold for £26 recently but thats all......wonder if they are all reverse labels

[Platters 81]

thanks all.......turned into an interesting thread....the US UA 45 would presumably be the fawn label?......

[Sean Hampsey]

it does appear to be missing from the listing and probably is the first 45 on the label.....still stretching it a bit to be prior to july 71 but anythin is possible in this game... i found a VG copy that sold for £26 recently but thats all......wonder if they are all reverse labels

 

 

This is a rare record, in its original format on Blue Candle.

 

I have two copies. Took me a very long time to obtain. Both have labels printed correctly. 

 

It's one of those 45's that are very scarce, but there's no huge demand for it, as its under the radar, so that's where it remains.

 

Not a 'trophy' record - but a proper 'collectors' item and a top drawer little record to boot!

 

Some day honey... :0)

 

Sean