Popular Post Winsford Soul Posted November 3, 2014 Popular Post Share Posted November 3, 2014 Love the simplicity of this picture, which wasn't staged it was actually lying on the path Steve 4 Link to comment Social source share More sharing options...
Popular Post Winsford Soul Posted November 3, 2014 Popular Post Share Posted November 3, 2014 Reflections Steve 6 Link to comment Social source share More sharing options...
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Popular Post Winsford Soul Posted November 4, 2014 Popular Post Share Posted November 4, 2014 Went Leighton Moss today, bad move full of tourists after Autumn watch. Never seen it that busy. Got a new tick off my bird list. Seen a Water Rail for the very first time. Unfortunately no pictures. Another Leighton Moss first was a Otter to far away for a picture, had a robin perched on my hand, seen a brown hawker dragonfly, seen a peacock or red admiral butterfly couldn't make out which one. Then sat for a hour waiting for the starlings to come in to roost, they must have gone to a different part of the reserve as i only seen a small flock of maybe a few hundred birds. Very happy Steve 5 Link to comment Social source share More sharing options...
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good angel Posted November 4, 2014 Share Posted November 4, 2014 IMG_0293.JPG Steve Cutting wood in the wood today and a Robin was being nosey seeing what I was doing. 3 Link to comment Social source share More sharing options...
Popular Post Peter99 Posted November 4, 2014 Popular Post Share Posted November 4, 2014 This thread always makes me say to myself "wow"! It's amazing - the skill, craft and love of nature blows me away every time. Well done and thank you guys. It's an inspiration - don't stop now. On behalf of mesen and the site team. Peter 5 Link to comment Social source share More sharing options...
Popular Post Amsterdam Russ Posted November 5, 2014 Author Popular Post Share Posted November 5, 2014 Nuthatch in the woods of Amsterdam - taken earlier in the year, of course. 6 Link to comment Social source share More sharing options...
Winsford Soul Posted November 5, 2014 Share Posted November 5, 2014 Nuthatch in the woods of Amsterdam - taken earlier in the year, of course. Nuthatch-Bos.jpg Nice one Russell, love nuthatches Steve Link to comment Social source share More sharing options...
Tattoodave Posted November 5, 2014 Share Posted November 5, 2014 Nice one Russell, love nuthatches Steve Fed one out my hand in a park in Twickenham, I think it was called Marble Hill or something, was told to take unsalted peanuts and just wait with them in my hand, I expected squirrels, but got great tits, blue tits and a nuthatch, I was well impressed as a youngster, maybe 13 years old. Link to comment Social source share More sharing options...
Winsford Soul Posted November 5, 2014 Share Posted November 5, 2014 Fed one out my hand in a park in Twickenham, I think it was called Marble Hill or something, was told to take unsalted peanuts and just wait with them in my hand, I expected squirrels, but got great tits, blue tits and a nuthatch, I was well impressed as a youngster, maybe 13 years old. Nice Dave. always impressed with your wildlife tales. Only been lucky enough to have robins feed out of my hands and that's only happened twice Steve 1 Link to comment Social source share More sharing options...
Tattoodave Posted November 5, 2014 Share Posted November 5, 2014 Nice Dave. always impressed with your wildlife tales. Only been lucky enough to have robins feed out of my hands and that's only happened twice Steve I had one sit on the fork as I was digging, but never fed a robin from my hand. Had a chaffinch come in the car at Portmadog, for his lunch, sat on the steering wheel, very odd. 1 Link to comment Social source share More sharing options...
good angel Posted November 5, 2014 Share Posted November 5, 2014 I fell nose first into briar bush today I look like I have been attacked by a hawk..ouch Link to comment Social source share More sharing options...
Winsford Soul Posted November 5, 2014 Share Posted November 5, 2014 (edited) I fell nose first into briar bush today I look like I have been attacked by a hawk..ouch Ouch ( the closest i could get to a bush) Kev it could have been a brambling that attacked you Steve Edited November 5, 2014 by Winsford Soul 3 Link to comment Social source share More sharing options...
Amsterdam Russ Posted November 5, 2014 Author Share Posted November 5, 2014 Nice one Russell, love nuthatches Steve Fed one out my hand in a park in Twickenham, I think it was called Marble Hill or something, was told to take unsalted peanuts and just wait with them in my hand, I expected squirrels, but got great tits, blue tits and a nuthatch, I was well impressed as a youngster, maybe 13 years old. First time I ever saw a nuthatch I was sitting quietly in an elder tree watching for birds and it landed on a branch right in front of me. I was perhaps 13-14 years old then and maybe a couple of years into birdwatching. I was so excited at seeing one - and especially as it was so near to me. For me it was a really magical moment. 2 Link to comment Social source share More sharing options...
Amsterdam Russ Posted November 5, 2014 Author Share Posted November 5, 2014 I fell nose first into briar bush today I look like I have been attacked by a hawk..ouch How???? Link to comment Social source share More sharing options...
Winsford Soul Posted November 5, 2014 Share Posted November 5, 2014 First time I ever saw a nuthatch I was sitting quietly in an elder tree watching for birds and it landed on a branch right in front of me. I was perhaps 13-14 years old then and maybe a couple of years into birdwatching. I was so excited at seeing one - and especially as it was so near to me. For me it was a really magical moment. Russell. Here,s a fledgling nuthatch from last year Steve 3 Link to comment Social source share More sharing options...
Winsford Soul Posted November 5, 2014 Share Posted November 5, 2014 Slightly off topic but my first ever however feeble attempt at capturing fireworks. Wrong lens, wrong location, i live in a valley so its very limited viewing Steve 2 Link to comment Social source share More sharing options...
Tattoodave Posted November 5, 2014 Share Posted November 5, 2014 First time I ever saw a nuthatch I was sitting quietly in an elder tree watching for birds and it landed on a branch right in front of me. I was perhaps 13-14 years old then and maybe a couple of years into birdwatching. I was so excited at seeing one - and especially as it was so near to me. For me it was a really magical moment. They are a real beauty of the scarcer British birds, LBJ's might be difficult to pin down and downright confusing at times, but the nuthatch is a stunner. Watched a treecreeper going down a tree as a nuthatch was going up the same tree once, pure magic. 1 Link to comment Social source share More sharing options...
good angel Posted November 5, 2014 Share Posted November 5, 2014 How???? Got snagged on a bramble and arse over tit I went 3 Link to comment Social source share More sharing options...
Amsterdam Russ Posted November 5, 2014 Author Share Posted November 5, 2014 IMG_4484.JPG Russell. Here,s a fledgling nuthatch from last year Steve Nicely caught! 1 Link to comment Social source share More sharing options...
Amsterdam Russ Posted November 5, 2014 Author Share Posted November 5, 2014 They are a real beauty of the scarcer British birds, LBJ's might be difficult to pin down and downright confusing at times, but the nuthatch is a stunner. Watched a treecreeper going down a tree as a nuthatch was going up the same tree once, pure magic. I think there's a touch of the exotic about them - similar to bullfinches and kingfishers in that their colourings are very rich and distinctive, especially with the deep orangey-ruddy colourings. 2 Link to comment Social source share More sharing options...
Winsford Soul Posted November 5, 2014 Share Posted November 5, 2014 Nicely caught! Russell. Just for you a pair of fledglings I had posted this picture very early in this thread Steve 3 Link to comment Social source share More sharing options...
Amsterdam Russ Posted November 5, 2014 Author Share Posted November 5, 2014 Russell. Just for you a pair of fledglings IMG_4481.JPG I had posted this picture very early in this thread Steve Love it. Don't recall seeing this one here; must have missed it. 1 Link to comment Social source share More sharing options...
Popular Post Tattoodave Posted November 7, 2014 Popular Post Share Posted November 7, 2014 This was taken a couple of weeks ago when my little Kapitan was still alive and running along the beach with me, today would have been his 2nd birthday. This is the limit of the autumn colour in Southern Spain at the moment, not brilliant, taken in central Marbella. This morning, just before dawn. 5 Link to comment Social source share More sharing options...
Popular Post Winsford Soul Posted November 10, 2014 Popular Post Share Posted November 10, 2014 A golden carpet of leaves A red under lay Structurally stunning bark Steve 5 Link to comment Social source share More sharing options...
Popular Post Winsford Soul Posted November 10, 2014 Popular Post Share Posted November 10, 2014 This is as close as i have got up to now anyway to a murmuration of starlings Steve 4 Link to comment Social source share More sharing options...
Peter99 Posted November 10, 2014 Share Posted November 10, 2014 good angel, on 05 Nov 2014 - 9:39 PM, said: Got snagged on a bramble and arse over tit I went Link to comment Social source share More sharing options...
good angel Posted November 10, 2014 Share Posted November 10, 2014 A Sparrowhawk grabbed a collard Dove and fell out of the sky about a yard in front of me today, I must have disturbed him he flew off an the Dove. 2 Link to comment Social source share More sharing options...
Amsterdam Russ Posted November 10, 2014 Author Share Posted November 10, 2014 IMG_0292.JPG This is as close as i have got up to now anyway to a murmuration of starlings Steve I was fortunate to see murmurations when I was a kid - absolutely magical things to behold; a real marvel of Nature. Great video here. Best watched in HD. 3 Link to comment Social source share More sharing options...
Winsford Soul Posted November 10, 2014 Share Posted November 10, 2014 I was fortunate to see murmurations when I was a kid - absolutely magical things to behold; a real marvel of Nature. Great video here. Best watched in HD. http://youtu.be/M1Q-EbX6dso[/quote Russell. Thanks for sharing, stunning. Where I was brought up in Widnes is in the shadow of the Widnes/runcorn bridge and in the winter there's a estimated 1 hundred thousand starlings roost on the steel work. The murmurations are stunning. Steve 1 Link to comment Social source share More sharing options...
Amsterdam Russ Posted November 10, 2014 Author Share Posted November 10, 2014 Russell. Thanks for sharing, stunning. Where I was brought up in Widnes is in the shadow of the Widnes/runcorn bridge and in the winter there's a estimated 1 hundred thousand starlings roost on the steel work. The murmurations are stunning. Steve Got a video camera? Link to comment Social source share More sharing options...
Winsford Soul Posted November 10, 2014 Share Posted November 10, 2014 Got a video camera? Russell. I don't have a video camera unfortunately. I haven't lived in Widnes for 12 years now. My son still lives there with his mum . If I can be bothered putting up with the probability of a two hour drive in the rush hour I may try and get some picture's. It's a 25 minutes drive normally. Steve Link to comment Social source share More sharing options...
Amsterdam Russ Posted November 10, 2014 Author Share Posted November 10, 2014 Russell. I don't have a video camera unfortunately. I haven't lived in Widnes for 12 years now. My son still lives there with his mum . If I can be bothered putting up with the probability of a two hour drive in the rush hour I may try and get some picture's. It's a 25 minutes drive normally. Steve That's a shame. Would be an incredible experience to witness, I'm sure. Link to comment Social source share More sharing options...
Tattoodave Posted November 11, 2014 Share Posted November 11, 2014 That's a shame. Would be an incredible experience to witness, I'm sure. I've seen murmurations over Eastbourne and Brighton, amazing sight, they settle eventually on the piers, or at least did before Eastbourne went up in flames. And before anyone from Southend asks I have a cast iron alibi (no pun intended) I was in Spain when it went up, honest! 1 Link to comment Social source share More sharing options...
Amsterdam Russ Posted November 11, 2014 Author Share Posted November 11, 2014 So has any reasonable explanation been offered as to why starlings swarm in this way? It seems to have a direct association with roosting as it often happens as a precursor to that. Link to comment Social source share More sharing options...
Tattoodave Posted November 11, 2014 Share Posted November 11, 2014 So has any reasonable explanation been offered as to why starlings swarm in this way? It seems to have a direct association with roosting as it often happens as a precursor to that. My theory is that they are just warming up prior to roosting, metal structures are bloody cold and my basic physics tell me that metal conducts heat pretty well, so by getting warm prior to roosting they are probably not going to feel the cold that quickly, and it's a very good defensive strategy to fly like that, it confuses the hell out of me let alone a predator. Link to comment Social source share More sharing options...
Tattoodave Posted November 11, 2014 Share Posted November 11, 2014 So has any reasonable explanation been offered as to why starlings swarm in this way? It seems to have a direct association with roosting as it often happens as a precursor to that. Other than that I haven't got a clue! Link to comment Social source share More sharing options...
Amsterdam Russ Posted November 11, 2014 Author Share Posted November 11, 2014 My theory is that they are just warming up prior to roosting, metal structures are bloody cold and my basic physics tell me that metal conducts heat pretty well, so by getting warm prior to roosting they are probably not going to feel the cold that quickly, and it's a very good defensive strategy to fly like that, it confuses the hell out of me let alone a predator. I've also wondered as to whether there is some defensive value in these swarming displays. They give the idea of there being a single entity - and a rather enormous one at that! There's logic in what you say about it also being a pre-slumber warming up exercise for a species that isn't far enough up the evolutionary ladder to appreciate a hot water bottle. Like all birds, though, they are naturally very well insulated - and starlings happily roost in trees and other structures as well as metal ones such as piers. Also, energy is an extremely valuable commodity - it's life or death, so what value in burning up so many of the precious calories they've spent the whole day accumulating? No idea if anything I'm saying here is "right" in any way - just postulating. Perhaps I'll have a look into the topic if I get the time later today as it's fascinating. Link to comment Social source share More sharing options...
Tattoodave Posted November 11, 2014 Share Posted November 11, 2014 (edited) I've also wondered as to whether there is some defensive value in these swarming displays. They give the idea of there being a single entity - and a rather enormous one at that! There's logic in what you say about it also being a pre-slumber warming up exercise for a species that isn't far enough up the evolutionary ladder to appreciate a hot water bottle. Like all birds, though, they are naturally very well insulated - and starlings happily roost in trees and other structures as well as metal ones such as piers. Also, energy is an extremely valuable commodity - it's life or death, so what value in burning up so many of the precious calories they've spent the whole day accumulating? No idea if anything I'm saying here is "right" in any way - just postulating. Perhaps I'll have a look into the topic if I get the time later today as it's fascinating.Hence I started with "My theory", just postulating, and smiling at those two words which conjure up a piece of Monty Python lunacy. What do I know? I ain't got fevvers! Edited November 11, 2014 by TattooDave Link to comment Social source share More sharing options...
Amsterdam Russ Posted November 11, 2014 Author Share Posted November 11, 2014 Hence I started with "My theory", just postulating, and smiling at those two words which conjure up a piece of Monty Python lunacy. What do I know? I ain't got fevers! I think we could all do with a bit more "postulating", especially in some of the "discussions" that take place on Soul Source. Link to comment Social source share More sharing options...
Amsterdam Russ Posted November 11, 2014 Author Share Posted November 11, 2014 A little scratching at the surface of starling murmurations reveals this interesting article. It's a lay perspective of a study conducted by theoretical physicists at the University of Rome. http://www.mnn.com/earth-matters/animals/stories/the-incredible-science-behind-starling-murmurations Anyone with an interest and understanding of higher mathematics can read the full paper here: http://www.pnas.org/content/107/26/11865.full While the article and source paper provide an explanation as to why, relative to the laws of physics, murmurations work, little scope is given to why they take place at all beyond it being a defensive phenomenon. I'd put money on there being some sort of social value beyond the defensive, but couldn't say what or why. Link to comment Social source share More sharing options...
Popular Post Zed1 Posted November 11, 2014 Popular Post Share Posted November 11, 2014 _MG_3834.JPG Love the simplicity of this picture, which wasn't staged it was actually lying on the path Steve Got a new DSLR a few years ago and took this while trying set up's..... 5 Link to comment Social source share More sharing options...
Winsford Soul Posted November 11, 2014 Share Posted November 11, 2014 Got a new DSLR a few years ago and took this while trying set up's..... G Gaz. Welcome to our thread mate. get yourself down to the ship canal and get us some starling pctures Ste 2 Link to comment Social source share More sharing options...
Winsford Soul Posted November 11, 2014 Share Posted November 11, 2014 A little scratching at the surface of starling murmurations reveals this interesting article. It's a lay perspective of a study conducted by theoretical physicists at the University of Rome. http://www.mnn.com/earth-matters/animals/stories/the-incredible-science-behind-starling-murmurations Anyone with an interest and understanding of higher mathematics can read the full paper here: http://www.pnas.org/content/107/26/11865.full While the article and source paper provide an explanation as to why, relative to the laws of physics, murmurations work, little scope is given to why they take place at all beyond it being a defensive phenomenon. I'd put money on there being some sort of social value beyond the defensive, but couldn't say what or why. Russell. there must be enough bird brains on here to come up with a answer Steve 1 Link to comment Social source share More sharing options...
Amsterdam Russ Posted November 11, 2014 Author Share Posted November 11, 2014 Russell. there must be enough bird brains on here to come up with a answer Steve On the subject of being bird-brained... 2 Link to comment Social source share More sharing options...
Winsford Soul Posted November 11, 2014 Share Posted November 11, 2014 (edited) Just got in from my local supermarket ( where middleton nighters used to be ) after buying my Canon plus photography magazine and to my utter astonishment whilst walking back to my car i watched a Raven being mobbed by a herring gull. Steve Edited November 11, 2014 by Winsford Soul Link to comment Social source share More sharing options...
Popular Post Winsford Soul Posted November 12, 2014 Popular Post Share Posted November 12, 2014 (edited) Male shoveller ( taken from a long way) still showing signs of summer plumage. Taken at Burton mere RSPB reserve today also seen two common hawker dragonflies Steve Edited November 12, 2014 by Winsford Soul 4 Link to comment Social source share More sharing options...
Popular Post good angel Posted November 15, 2014 Popular Post Share Posted November 15, 2014 Moving a log pile today a little cock Robin was in and out of the pile and sitting on my handle of my wheelbarrow and then he followed me in the garage,I love things like that. 4 Link to comment Social source share More sharing options...
Tattoodave Posted November 18, 2014 Share Posted November 18, 2014 Saw a Sardinian Warbler, Crossbill, Redstart, White Wagtail, Stonechat, Chiffchaff and Hoopoe yesterday, sadly all out of range of my little camera, but I'm still hopeful of getting some of them soon. 1 Link to comment Social source share More sharing options...
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