NEV Posted April 16, 2013 Share Posted April 16, 2013 Probably lost count on the amount of times i've searched for this one and infact gave up trying But somebody got lucky the other week ..anyone on here by chance https://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/ULTIMATE-RARE-Charles-Mintz-UpLook-42671-Running-Back-Lucky-Guy-Northern-Soul-45-/230954337878?pt=Music_on_Vinyl&hash=item35c5f38656#ht_307wt_1428 Link to comment Social source share More sharing options...
Kev John Posted April 16, 2013 Share Posted April 16, 2013 Not me sorry Kev Link to comment Social source share More sharing options...
Tony Smith Posted April 16, 2013 Share Posted April 16, 2013 It sounded pretty shagged to me! Link to comment Social source share More sharing options...
NEV Posted April 16, 2013 Author Share Posted April 16, 2013 It sounded pretty shagged to me! Never heard the soundfile Tony ,just going off the description that the Running side was the better of the two ? Link to comment Social source share More sharing options...
Jordirip Posted April 16, 2013 Share Posted April 16, 2013 It sounded pretty shagged to me! yes and he would have to pay customs fees on it. I'll stick to my mint Delegates of soul. 1 Link to comment Social source share More sharing options...
Tony Smith Posted April 16, 2013 Share Posted April 16, 2013 There was a soundfile when it was on, and didn't sound good to me. Link to comment Social source share More sharing options...
NEV Posted April 16, 2013 Author Share Posted April 16, 2013 There was a soundfile when it was on, and didn't sound good to me. Expensive wall mounted 45 then Tony One bid though .. was it a buy it now ? Link to comment Social source share More sharing options...
Eddie Hubbard Posted April 16, 2013 Share Posted April 16, 2013 Probably lost count on the amount of times i've searched for this one and infact gave up trying But somebody got lucky the other week ..anyone on here by chance https://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/ULTIMATE-RARE-Charles-Mintz-UpLook-42671-Running-Back-Lucky-Guy-Northern-Soul-45-/230954337878?pt=Music_on_Vinyl&hash=item35c5f38656#ht_307wt_1428 Lucky Guy is an all time fave ..... Link to comment Social source share More sharing options...
Ted Massey Posted April 16, 2013 Share Posted April 16, 2013 i think the DOS is the better version imo 1 Link to comment Social source share More sharing options...
NEV Posted April 16, 2013 Author Share Posted April 16, 2013 i think the DOS is the better version imo Wondered who would be first Lets have a poll eh ! Link to comment Social source share More sharing options...
Popular Post Dave Thorley Posted April 16, 2013 Popular Post Share Posted April 16, 2013 i think the DOS is the better version imo Sorry Ted, DOS doesn't come close, all nicey, nice harmonies, no punch or passion. Charles sounds like the song relates directly to him and the psych guitar takes it to another level. One is a very nice harmony group tune and the other an adrenaline rush. 7 Link to comment Social source share More sharing options...
Jumpinjoan Posted April 16, 2013 Share Posted April 16, 2013 Delegates of Soul for me all day long 2 Link to comment Social source share More sharing options...
NEV Posted April 16, 2013 Author Share Posted April 16, 2013 If its gonna get messy ..i'll delete my post ,especially if someone says its crap 1 Link to comment Social source share More sharing options...
Steve G Posted April 16, 2013 Share Posted April 16, 2013 (edited) Charles Mintz every time. It's got oomph! Both sides great too. DOS a "soul pack" filler record. Edited April 16, 2013 by Steve G 1 Link to comment Social source share More sharing options...
Ted Massey Posted April 16, 2013 Share Posted April 16, 2013 i dont like it enough to want to pay double or treble the difference 1 Link to comment Social source share More sharing options...
Dave Thorley Posted April 16, 2013 Share Posted April 16, 2013 i dont like it enough to want to pay double or treble the difference Forget price, if they were blind buys, the same price DOS, really Link to comment Social source share More sharing options...
Ted Massey Posted April 16, 2013 Share Posted April 16, 2013 Dave just because you like it doesnt mean we all have to Link to comment Social source share More sharing options...
Dave Thorley Posted April 16, 2013 Share Posted April 16, 2013 (edited) Dave just because you like it doesnt mean we all have to I'm totally agree, but you reference price, what has price got to do with the quality of a song. Edited April 16, 2013 by Dave Thorley Link to comment Social source share More sharing options...
Ted Massey Posted April 16, 2013 Share Posted April 16, 2013 if they were both the same price i would still choose DOS i just like it more you dont fair enough, your taste has no baring on my taste i like what i like Link to comment Social source share More sharing options...
NEV Posted April 16, 2013 Author Share Posted April 16, 2013 You guys should know by now that it's down to personal taste. Both great versions IMHO but can fully understand Daves point referring to the whole context of the song from a soulful perspective . IMHO ,it's exactly from the same perspective as to why people prefer Little Willie Faulk over Ree Flores ...finished and polished production over a more raw version . Link to comment Social source share More sharing options...
Jordirip Posted April 16, 2013 Share Posted April 16, 2013 Sorry Ted, DOS doesn't come close, all nicey, nice harmonies, no punch or passion. Charles sounds like the song relates directly to him and the psych guitar takes it to another level. One is a very nice harmony group tune and the other an adrenaline rush. I don't quite agree with you there Dave, DOS does come close. I agree that Charles Mintz is the better, more exciting version with real punch in the delivery but you can't dismiss DOS as nicey, nice harmonies. And to be honest i would much rather have a mint DOS than a knackered Charles Mintz. 1 Link to comment Social source share More sharing options...
Marc Forrest Posted April 16, 2013 Share Posted April 16, 2013 Expensive wall mounted 45 then Tony One bid though .. was it a buy it now ?no, it had a high starting price (500 if I remember correctly) and that one bid came in just shortly before auction finished. Link to comment Social source share More sharing options...
Popular Post Louise Posted April 16, 2013 Popular Post Share Posted April 16, 2013 Your all wrong Sir Joe's version is the best! Dave 5 Link to comment Social source share More sharing options...
Jordirip Posted April 16, 2013 Share Posted April 16, 2013 Your all wrong Sir Joe's version is the best! Dave Where can we hear that then Dave? 1 Link to comment Social source share More sharing options...
Louise Posted April 16, 2013 Share Posted April 16, 2013 Where can we hear that then Dave? Your local British Legion on a Saturday night ! Link to comment Social source share More sharing options...
Jordirip Posted April 16, 2013 Share Posted April 16, 2013 Your local British Legion on a Saturday night ! An average northern night then? Link to comment Social source share More sharing options...
Popular Post Wrongcrowd Posted April 16, 2013 Popular Post Share Posted April 16, 2013 I have to say that the Delegates is the version for me. Never really got the guitar backing Charles' version, and couldn't see what the fuss was about, apart from the rarity, later find thing going on....IMHO of course 5 Link to comment Social source share More sharing options...
Tony Smith Posted April 17, 2013 Share Posted April 17, 2013 I'm with Cliff on this too, I find the wah-wah guitar most irritating, plus TBH I'm sick of hearing either version, played to death IMHO 2 Link to comment Social source share More sharing options...
Popular Post Louise Posted April 18, 2013 Popular Post Share Posted April 18, 2013 (edited) Just thought I'd give Charles's "Sice I Found You Girl" a shout, a nice record that seems to be regarded as the poor relation of the others mentioned above. Dave Edited April 18, 2013 by Louise 6 Link to comment Social source share More sharing options...
Sebastian Posted April 18, 2013 Share Posted April 18, 2013 Just thought I'd give Charles's "Sice I Found You Girl" a shout, a nice record that seems to be regarded as the poor relation of the others mentioned above. Dave I totally agree, "Since I Found You Girl" is great. In fact, all of his 45s on UPLOOK are good. "Give A Man A Break" is incredible. 1 Link to comment Social source share More sharing options...
Dave Thorley Posted April 18, 2013 Share Posted April 18, 2013 (edited) I totally agree, "Since I Found You Girl" is great. In fact, all of his 45s on UPLOOK are good. "Give A Man A Break" is incredible. He also recorded under the name Tommy Starr - Wheel of love - Loma Edited April 18, 2013 by Dave Thorley 2 Link to comment Social source share More sharing options...
Sebastian Posted April 18, 2013 Share Posted April 18, 2013 He also recorded under the name Tommy Starr - Wheel of love - Loma Didn't know that was him! Link to comment Social source share More sharing options...
Soul-slider Posted April 18, 2013 Share Posted April 18, 2013 I totally agree, "Since I Found You Girl" is great. In fact, all of his 45s on UPLOOK are good. "Give A Man A Break" is incredible. Is that the previously 'unissued' tune that came out with a picture sleeve several years back? Link to comment Social source share More sharing options...
Sebastian Posted April 18, 2013 Share Posted April 18, 2013 Is that the previously 'unissued' tune that came out with a picture sleeve several years back? No, both "Give A Man a Break" and "Since I Found You Girl" are regular releases on UPLOOK. 1 Link to comment Social source share More sharing options...
Corbett80 Posted April 18, 2013 Share Posted April 18, 2013 Mintz for me. 1 Link to comment Social source share More sharing options...
Jumpinjoan Posted April 18, 2013 Share Posted April 18, 2013 I'm with Cliff on this too, I find the wah-wah guitar most irritating, plus TBH I'm sick of hearing either version, played to death IMHO What Tony and Cliff said, the guitar is so annoying, really spoils it for me. Still love DoS though, it's great and uplifting - just like it should be! 1 Link to comment Social source share More sharing options...
Dennisoul Posted April 18, 2013 Share Posted April 18, 2013 DOS for me......still takes me back to mexborough and Blackburn allnighters when it's was c/u by Butch as the philharmonics or the harmonics can't quite remember what one....just a great slab of northern..and timeless in my book Link to comment Social source share More sharing options...
Corbett80 Posted April 18, 2013 Share Posted April 18, 2013 (edited) What Tony and Cliff said, the guitar is so annoying, really spoils it for me. Still love DoS though, it's great and uplifting - just like it should be! With Dave on the guitar - choppy, heavy, mean, aggresive aggro soul. Great! The thing is the DoS has tons of its own merits too. You can't go wrong with either and each has its time and place imho. Just a great song. Edited April 18, 2013 by corbett80 1 Link to comment Social source share More sharing options...
Tony Smith Posted April 18, 2013 Share Posted April 18, 2013 With Dave on the guitar - choppy, heavy, mean, aggresive aggro soul. Great! The thing is the DoS has tons of its own merits too. You can't go wrong with either and each has its time and place imho. Just a great song. Sorry Joel, have to disagree there is no way either is aggro soul!! Link to comment Social source share More sharing options...
Corbett80 Posted April 18, 2013 Share Posted April 18, 2013 Aggregate soul i meant 1 Link to comment Social source share More sharing options...
Marc Forrest Posted April 19, 2013 Share Posted April 19, 2013 Didn't know that was him! Yes, I found out about that some six maybe seven years ago, posted it on here and Dave Thorley then got confirmation of that theory from Charles Mintz himself that he was "hiding" behind teh name of "Tommy Star".. Link to comment Social source share More sharing options...
Marc Forrest Posted April 19, 2013 Share Posted April 19, 2013 Is that the previously 'unissued' tune that came out with a picture sleeve several years back? No, the pic sleeve release that was done around a few years ago is "I`ll Come Running Back"... unless there is also another rel that does feature unrel. stuff by Charles Mintz ? Link to comment Social source share More sharing options...
Soul-slider Posted April 19, 2013 Share Posted April 19, 2013 Yes, just remembered, there is an orange 'Up Look' re-issue with DOS (ICRB) on one side and Charles Mintz 'Give A Man A Break' on the other side. I also have the picture sleeve with ICRB but can't remember the flip. Link to comment Social source share More sharing options...
Russ Vickers Posted April 20, 2013 Share Posted April 20, 2013 (edited) Charles Mintz for me every time, remember the first time I heard Butch play this at the 100 Club (15 years ago ?)....the place exploded, it totally blew me away & still does to this day, the wah, wah that some find intrusive is one of the things about the record that distinguishes it, especially on the intro, that & the uhhhh's.....bloody love it..... That doesnt mean to say I dont like DOS BTW, just prefer CM as it has more wooophhhh as a Nighter record. I hear DOS played out occasionally still, but very rarely CM ?, maybe the places I go ???. Ps/....Was CM ever covered up ?....cant recall it being covered, but dont remember the artist being mentioned on initial plays, so maybe a secret sound type thingy ?. Best Russ Edited April 20, 2013 by Russ Vickers Link to comment Social source share More sharing options...
Russ Vickers Posted April 20, 2013 Share Posted April 20, 2013 BTW there is an unissued Charles Mintz recording, not sure if it was recorded around the same time period, cant remember full title, but 'Candy' is in the title some where, not at home so cant check....dont remember it being as good as the released Uplook stuff... maybe 'Candy Baby'...? Best Russ Link to comment Social source share More sharing options...
Chalky Posted April 20, 2013 Share Posted April 20, 2013 Yes, just remembered, there is an orange 'Up Look' re-issue with DOS (ICRB) on one side and Charles Mintz 'Give A Man A Break' on the other side. I also have the picture sleeve with ICRB but can't remember the flip. The flip of the Charles Mintz is the instrumental I think. I have the both the CM and DOS re-issues for sale if anyone interested. Link to comment Social source share More sharing options...
Dave Pinch Posted April 20, 2013 Share Posted April 20, 2013 delegates of soul for me,also ....and their what a lucky gut i am pips charles too imo Link to comment Social source share More sharing options...
Guest Dave Turner Posted April 20, 2013 Share Posted April 20, 2013 Charles Mintz for me, both Running Back and Lucky Guy .. for my ear it's the vocals Link to comment Social source share More sharing options...
Chalky Posted April 20, 2013 Share Posted April 20, 2013 BTW there is an unissued Charles Mintz recording, not sure if it was recorded around the same time period, cant remember full title, but 'Candy' is in the title some where, not at home so cant check....dont remember it being as good as the released Uplook stuff... maybe 'Candy Baby'...? Best Russ Charles Mintz - Candy Baby is an unissued track Andy Dyson got about ten years or so. They are all now on the Uplook Records Story cd Grapevine put out a few years ago. 1 Link to comment Social source share More sharing options...
Steve G Posted April 20, 2013 Share Posted April 20, 2013 (edited) How interesting about the Tommy Starr - missed that when I interviewed him on radio.... Edited April 20, 2013 by Steve G Link to comment Social source share More sharing options...
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