Eddie Foster Orig?

[Jim Elliott]

Sorry, this has probably been asked before, but how can you tell orig from boot??

 

Cheers

Jim.

[Robbk]

There were a few different boots.  One was a black on white DJ issue, with red plastic, on which the print lines are weak (slightly blurry), due to the label being photocopied.  There is only "IN 6311A" and "IN 6311B" etched into the run out area. 

 

The original has silver print on a darker (navy) blue hued background than the colour store-stock boot, which is slightly less "navy blue", and slightly more turquoise in hue.  The original has IN 6311 etched on both sides, with the song titles also etched into the groove runout.  I don't have the coloured stocker boot, so I can't tell you what's in the groove trail.

[Guest]

Also booted on a good looking vinyl white demo, with normal black vinyl.

[Gene-r]

If you're offered a white demo, it's definitely a boot - there aren't any original demos.

 

Follow Robb's advice above on how to tell a boot from an original stock copy.

[Robbk]

Here are scans of the original, and the black on white boot on red plastic.  There was also a similar boot on black vinyl.  I don't have the blue stock boot.

 

Edited March 30, 2013 by RobbK

[Robbk]

[Harry Crosby]

There was also a Multi coloured Vinyl Boot as well, only seen one, Ian ohara from York had it.

[Gene-r]

There was also a Multi coloured Vinyl Boot as well, only seen one, Ian ohara from York had it.

 

JM's auction raised about £56 for it some years ago.  Apparently, Bob Catteno had the coloured vinyl ones pressed at the same time as the WDJs, but in a very limited quantity.

Edited March 30, 2013 by Gene-R

[Harry Crosby]

JM's auction raised about £56 for it some years ago.  Apparently, Bob Catteno had the coloured vinyl ones pressed at the same time as the WDJs, but in a very limited quantity.

That right Gene, couldn`t remember the guys name, did he also do the Sam fletcher coloured vinyl ones also??

[Gene-r]

That right Gene, couldn`t remember the guys name, did he also do the Sam fletcher coloured vinyl ones also??

 

Didn't know there were any, Harry!  Now they must be seriously scarce.

 

PS: Hope you, Di and the family have a good Easter.......

Edited March 30, 2013 by Gene-R

[Harry Crosby]

Didn't know there were any, Harry!  Now they must be seriously scarce.

 

PS: Hope you, Di and the family have a good Easter.......

Yeh seem to remember reading somewhere about red vinyl Sam fletchers Gene. Same to you and yours for Easter Gene.

Edited March 30, 2013 by HARRY CROSBY

[Harry Crosby]

Here you go Gene     https://youtu.be/Z6Nk1fiHLIg   [sorry for off topic post]

[Gene-r]

Here you go Gene     https://youtu.be/Z6Nk1fiHLIg   [sorry for off topic post]

 

Bloody hell!  Looks lovely.  Thanks for that Harry.

[45cellar]

 

The Original first run had just the song titles in the deadwax, second run had IN 6311 plus the song titles.

[Glyn Sisson]

Eddie Foster  dark blue look alike from early70s had  pb stamped into the deadwax i have heard of people t cut that out and pass as an original.

so take care,also pb stamped into dead wax on the 70s looalike of the Salvadors Stick By Me Baby.and that passed as original.

Glyn

[Premium Stuff]

 

The Original first run had just the song titles in the deadwax, second run had IN 6311 plus the song titles.

 

Hi Roger

 

Do you mean there were two original runs of Eddie Foster with the dead wax markings as above - and then the blue boot? Or, when you say second run, do you mean the boot?

 

Cheers

 

Richard

[45cellar]

Sorry Richard, should have read;

 

There were two runs Originally first run had just the song titles in the deadwax, second run had IN 6311 plus the song titles.

[Premium Stuff]

Sorry Richard, should have read;

 

There were two runs Originally first run had just the song titles in the deadwax, second run had IN 6311 plus the song titles.

 

OK - thanks Roger.

 

Is there a difference in value?

 

Cheers

 

Richard

[45cellar]

I believe that the song titles one may be rarer.

 

Guessing same pressing plant though not 100% sure.

[Premium Stuff]

I believe that the song titles one may be rarer.

 

Guessing same pressing plant though not 100% sure.

 

Thanks Roger - didn't know that - good info 

 

Cheers

 

Richard

[Dave Pinch]

 

The Original first run had just the song titles in the deadwax, second run had IN 6311 plus the song titles.

is there a boot on this design ..thinner vinyl. label a bit speckley and a smaller run out groove

[Modernsoulsucks]

Im sure I've mentioned this before but when I was at Bob Cattaneo's around 1980 he had Eddie Foster in lots of different colour vinyls.

 

You could match with your curtains.

 

ROD

[Tony Smith]

Im sure I've mentioned this before but when I was at Bob Cattaneo's around 1980 he had Eddie Foster in lots of different colour vinyls.

 

You could match with your curtains.

 

ROD

Yeh I'm sure I saw a trippy blue, red and yellow swirly copy once!! 

[Premium Stuff]

Im sure I've mentioned this before but when I was at Bob Cattaneo's around 1980 he had Eddie Foster in lots of different colour vinyls.

 

You could match with your curtains.

 

ROD

 

Darn it Rod - my curtains are black 

 

Richard

[Tony Smith]

Darn it Rod - my curtains are black 

 

Richard

 

I've got blinds!

[Chalky]

Im sure I've mentioned this before but when I was at Bob Cattaneo's around 1980 he had Eddie Foster in lots of different colour vinyls.

You could match with your curtains.

ROD

Same as this one....

[Premium Stuff]

Here's another boot from t'internet

 

Richard

Edited March 30, 2013 by Premium Stuff

[Chalky]

Blue vinyl boot....

[Tony Smith]

Same as this one....

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That's the one, Kitch had one I think?

[Chalky]

That's the one, Kitch had one I think?

If I remember rightly it was said there was four of each title he did.

[Glynthornhill]

also sold a pink boot of Eddie Foster last year

[Peter99]

also sold a pink boot of Eddie Foster last year

Yep, I have a pink/reddish boot somewhere. Label has some creases in it from memory.

 

Peter

Edited March 30, 2013 by Peter99

[Premium Stuff]

Yep, I have a pink/reddish boot somewhere. Label has some creases in it from memory.

 

Peter

 

That will go just lovely with your pink/reddish curtains Peter - according to Rod's theory of vinyl-themed interior decoration 

 

Richard

[Peter99]

That will go just lovely with your pink/reddish curtains Peter - according to Rod's theory of vinyl-themed interior decoration 

 

Richard

How very dare you Richard! 

 

I have fir green, crushed velvet sort of curtains going on. 

 

My Eddie Foster boot would positively clash - it would look like a car crash. I'm off to find that record now to see what is stamped/etched in. What a sad and lonely furrow I plough - apart from you lot of course! 

 

Peter

 

[Jim Elliott]

 Thanks folks

Bloody hell, this is all a bit confusing.

Mines got the song titles in the run out and IN 6311, good print and even blue label colour.

 

?

Jim.

Edited March 30, 2013 by Jim Elliott

[45cellar]

Hope yours is an Original Jim.

 

However It is a minefield but your description does tick a few boxes.

 

A friend of mine in the 70s had the Boot on a Light Blue Label.

 

I travelled to Kings Lynn and for a few quid more bought the Original from Soul Bowl with just the Titles scratched in the Deadwax.

 

Anyone else using places like this ended up with an Original, not In great quantity but they're out there somewhere here in 2013.

[Premium Stuff]

Isn't this one where people added the song titles in the dead wax to the bootleg to try and make it look more authentic?

 

Richard

Edited March 31, 2013 by Premium Stuff

[45cellar]

Yes I believe so Richard.

 

Some records are difficult when you don't have them in your hands, due to such practice.

 

I haven't seen all of the Counterfeits/Boots of Eddie Foster in the flesh,

but I well remember being caught out by a copy of Velvet Satins with PB in the Deadwax back in the day.

I paid good money for a Counterfeit. It was the 70s and we have probably all been caught out over the years.

That disaster stopped here with me, lesson learned.

I would never pass it on to anyone else, not my style so took the hit and still have It as a reminder.

[Dave Pinch]

roger there is a boot with the same label as the original

[De-to]

take your pick here,lol...   https://www.popsike.com/php/quicksearch.php?searchtext=eddie+foster&x=10&y=11

[Colsoul]

 

Yeh I'm sure I saw a trippy blue, red and yellow swirly copy once!! 

  are you sure you hadnt been on that strong north east lager that nite tony lol, col

[Ian Seaman]

Mick H has a multi coloured one.

 

Another mate has a multi coloured James Lewis too, never seen another one ??

 

I have 2 copies of EF, one has the song title in the run off the other has the record No, both labels are identical and both came same day from the same US seller ( bought one off him and he found a 2nd copy which he threw in for free lol)

 

Ian.

[soulster22]

my copy has IN 6311 A on the I never Knew side and IN 6311 B on the I will wait side. figure that it could be a boot but it does look and play great.

 

if a boot what would be the value?

 

regards Harry

[Guest]

my copy has IN 6311 A on the I never Knew side and IN 6311 B on the I will wait side. figure that it could be a boot but it does look and play great.

 

if a boot what would be the value?

 

regards Harry

Bloody hell Harry where did you find this thread? 

 

Depending on the colour variations mentioned above it could be between a tenner to whatever someones prepared to pay.

[Dave Pinch]

my copy has IN 6311 A on the I never Knew side and IN 6311 B on the I will wait side. figure that it could be a boot but it does look and play great.

 

if a boot what would be the value?

 

regards Harry

is the label blue same as the real one but a bit speckily

[soulster22]

is the label blue same as the real one but a bit speckily

Yes dave but the clarity is not that bad

[Guest]

There were two runs Originally first run had just the song titles in the deadwax, second run had IN 6311 plus the song titles.

There is no way anyone can tell which run of the original came first!

The song titles were probably scratched onto the Master Disc.

Several sub-master discs are made from the Master disc.

IN6311 could have been scratched on to one of the sub-master Discs, but maybe not onto any of the other sub-master discs.

Who knows which of the sub-master discs was used to make the first pressing machine record stampers?

The one with the numbers scratched on or one without the numbers scratched on!

Unless there is a witness from the record pressing plant at the time, we will never know!!

Edited October 6, 2014 by Guest

[Hill868]

 

The Original first run had just the song titles in the deadwax, second run had IN 6311 plus the song titles.

How would anyone know this for sure 47  years after it came out ??

[Dave Pinch]

How would anyone know this for sure 47  years after it came out ??

they just do by looking at the disc.. i can tell soulster22  post that his is the lookalike  boot by the info he`s given

[Guest]

is the label blue same as the real one but a bit speckily

I have seen that old speckily blue lookalike, and nearly bought it in a venue.

It looks good but as you say the uneven blue gives it away!