Dennisoul Posted May 15, 2006 Posted May 15, 2006 Anybody help me out with a copy of The New Sounds " New Sounds " LP on P Vine, or if I`m really lucky on Turbo. cheers Andy
binsy Posted May 15, 2006 Posted May 15, 2006 Hi Andy, I've got the P vine album and to be honest the sound is a bit muddy. Not sure how the original album sounds because I thought it was stupidly rare. But what a voice on 'don't take your love from me'
Dennisoul Posted May 15, 2006 Author Posted May 15, 2006 Hi Andy, I've got the P vine album and to be honest the sound is a bit muddy. Not sure how the original album sounds because I thought it was stupidly rare. But what a voice on 'don't take your love from me' Hi Binsy my mates got the Turbo release,he rekons the P Vine release has the better sound quality..........anyway do you fancy letting it go.
Jumpinjoan Posted May 15, 2006 Posted May 15, 2006 I've got the P vine album and to be honest the sound is a bit muddy. Not sure how the original album sounds because I thought it was stupidly rare. But what a voice on 'don't take your love from me' Don't Take Your Love ..... absolutely the best track on the album .... just brill
Soulof Posted May 15, 2006 Posted May 15, 2006 (edited) Don't Take Your Love ..... absolutely the best track on the album .... just brill [ Christian H used to have this Turbo and played it at Real Side. Was a bit muddy that one as well So prob in the tracks nature ( or another victory for the 45... ) not heard the P Vine myself though . great track tot agree Edited May 15, 2006 by Soulof
binsy Posted May 15, 2006 Posted May 15, 2006 Sorry Andy, I still love the track so much. I was just reading up on the site that you played it about 20 years ago, fair play to you
Guest Dodger Posted May 15, 2006 Posted May 15, 2006 Andy, I've got the PVine LP and never play it these days, it's a minter. PM me an offer and I might think about letting it go. Cheers Roger
Dennisoul Posted May 15, 2006 Author Posted May 15, 2006 Andy, I've got the PVine LP and never play it these days, it's a minter. PM me an offer and I might think about letting it go. Cheers Roger Roger I`ve sent you a PM Andy
Guest Dan Posted May 15, 2006 Posted May 15, 2006 any chance of anyone sticking up the track discussed above (or more from the album)? don't know it, would love to hear it?
Garethx Posted May 15, 2006 Posted May 15, 2006 Here are some New Sounds: the old Darrell Banks cover up And the groups version of Robert Tanner's Sweet Memories:
vaultofsouler Posted May 15, 2006 Posted May 15, 2006 Here are some New Sounds: And the groups version of Robert Tanner's Sweet Memories: The version of Robert Tanner is rather a good cover ....
Jumpinjoan Posted May 15, 2006 Posted May 15, 2006 The version of Robert Tanner is rather a good cover .... Pretty sure it's Robert Tanner singing lead on this ... tip top and no mistake!
Steve G Posted May 15, 2006 Posted May 15, 2006 Hi Andy, I've got the P vine album and to be honest the sound is a bit muddy. Not sure how the original album sounds because I thought it was stupidly rare. But what a voice on 'don't take your love from me' Classic Sylvia Robinson crappy ampex 2 track recording like so many on Turbo / Stang / All Plat etc. - you cannot get a good recording of this without digital remastering.
Guest Posted May 15, 2006 Posted May 15, 2006 Pretty sure it's Robert Tanner singing lead on this ... tip top and no mistake! Thats what I'm led to believe too Brilliant LP that every good home should have a copy of
Guest Posted May 15, 2006 Posted May 15, 2006 Classic Sylvia Robinson crappy ampex 2 track recording like so many on Turbo / Stang / All Plat etc. - you cannot get a good recording of this without digital remastering. According to Greg Tormo, in an old issue of Shades Of Soul, the group said they recorded and produced the tracks themselves, and the record was issued without their knowledge or approval. George Kerr also registered himself as the writer of the songs, despite the fact that the group had written them, apparently... The sound is poor on the Turbo original and reportedly worse on P-Vine which I believe was recorded from the Turbo album and not from mastertape. The LP can't really be played out on most normal club systems, the low bass causes a minor earthquake almost. The thing to do is to have some expert digitally remaster the tune from the LP and then play it off CD or a dub.
Guest Posted May 15, 2006 Posted May 15, 2006 (edited) "Tell Me Your Name" is clearly one of the best track on the album, much better than "Sweet Memories" anyway. Different lead vocalists on this and "Don't Take Your Love" obviously. It is probably Robert Tanner singing on "Tell Me Your Name". It also came out on a Megatone 45 in a different version but I have yet to hear that one. Anyone have an mp3 of the Megatone 45 version please? Such a shame "Don't Take Your Love" never came out on a properly mastered Turbo 45 with "Tell Me Your Name" on the flip. New_Sound___Tell_Me_Your_Name.mp3 Edited May 15, 2006 by Guest
Guest Posted May 15, 2006 Posted May 15, 2006 Theres a CD compliation with 'Don't Take Your Love' on it. It was remastered from a Turbo album (no tapes available) and is the best quality currently available.
sepia Posted May 15, 2006 Posted May 15, 2006 ME & TUBS GOT OFFERED TO BUY THIS IN ABERDEEN IN 1991 FOR 100POUNDS ON TURBO.WE THOT IT WAS TO PRICEY.YOU LIVE & LEARN
Steve G Posted May 16, 2006 Posted May 16, 2006 According to Greg Tormo, in an old issue of Shades Of Soul, the group said they recorded and produced the tracks themselves, and the record was issued without their knowledge or approval. George Kerr also registered himself as the writer of the songs, despite the fact that the group had written them, apparently... The sound is poor on the Turbo original and reportedly worse on P-Vine which I believe was recorded from the Turbo album and not from mastertape. The LP can't really be played out on most normal club systems, the low bass causes a minor earthquake almost. The thing to do is to have some expert digitally remaster the tune from the LP and then play it off CD or a dub. Yeah but mastering was by the Robinsons - we see it time and time again with their early output. They didn't get a decent production deck until oooh 1974-5 I reckon when they started having all those big hits....and this pre dates that. AGree both versions are recorded poorly and the reissue will blow out the woofers on many speakers. It's Robert Tanner on lead on "Sweet memories" as well.
Guest Dodger Posted May 16, 2006 Posted May 16, 2006 Played the album right through last night before wrapping it up to send to Andy and the sound isn't actually as bad as I remember when I last played it (around 1997!!). But it's nowhere near as bad as the sound on the Ultimates album, I was totally pissed off when I received that one, it sounds like it was recorded from a 20 year old cassette tape.
Steve G Posted May 16, 2006 Posted May 16, 2006 Played the album right through last night before wrapping it up to send to Andy and the sound isn't actually as bad as I remember when I last played it (around 1997!!). But it's nowhere near as bad as the sound on the Ultimates album, I was totally pissed off when I received that one, it sounds like it was recorded from a 20 year old cassette tape. Ah yes it's well known amongst the secret squirrels of the rare soul scene that the Ultimates LP is to be avoided on account of abyssmal sound. We should have pre warned you about that
Guest cenco Posted May 17, 2006 Posted May 17, 2006 ME & TUBS GOT OFFERED TO BUY THIS IN ABERDEEN IN 1991 FOR 100POUNDS ON TURBO.WE THOT IT WAS TO PRICEY.YOU LIVE & LEARN i bought that album from the guy bin aberdeen but unfotunatly dont have it anymore swapped it for fred and the turbines-bernadine best £100 i ever spent
Guest Dodger Posted May 17, 2006 Posted May 17, 2006 Ah yes it's well known amongst the secret squirrels of the rare soul scene that the Ultimates LP is to be avoided on account of abyssmal sound. We should have pre warned you about that It was a trade a few years ago for a couple of sevens I didn't care about, so at least I wasn't out of pocket.
Guest Posted May 17, 2006 Posted May 17, 2006 Yeah but mastering was by the Robinsons - we see it time and time again with their early output. They didn't get a decent production deck until oooh 1974-5 I reckon when they started having all those big hits....and this pre dates that. AGree both versions are recorded poorly and the reissue will blow out the woofers on many speakers. OK, that sounds reasonable. I've never played the reissue, only the original, and that couldn't really be played out on a club system without major readjustments, and then it still had way too much low bass.
Guest Posted May 17, 2006 Posted May 17, 2006 Played the album right through last night before wrapping it up to send to Andy and the sound isn't actually as bad as I remember when I last played it (around 1997!!). But it's nowhere near as bad as the sound on the Ultimates album, I was totally pissed off when I received that one, it sounds like it was recorded from a 20 year old cassette tape. I don't know about the P-Vine issue but the Turbo one sounded OK when you played it at home, it's when you play it out on a large system that the fun starts.
Mark Bicknell Posted May 17, 2006 Posted May 17, 2006 Theres a CD compliation with 'Don't Take Your Love' on it. It was remastered from a Turbo album (no tapes available) and is the best quality currently available. It's on 'Flying High' - The Modern End Of Northern Soul - On The Real Side 2 - CMRCD830 via Sanctuary came out in 2003, compiled by a certain gentleman Mr Simon White, and a fine CD it is too i might add and as Simon states you won't hear a better reproduction than on this compilation.....awesome track. Regards - Mark Bicknell.
Derek Pearson Posted May 17, 2006 Posted May 17, 2006 I remember thinking I was being very slick (yeah oil slick more like) when I persuaded a Japanese student at work to translate the words on the insert contained within the P.Vine album for me. Agreed to pay her by the hour thinking she'd rattle through it. Thought it was gonna talk about the history of the group, where its members came from blah blah blah. All I got was some ball bag along the lines of "Hi my names Leo, my star sign is cancer and I like walking across meadows full of butterflies in the sunshine". B*stards. Paid her £25 for it despite me telling her my mum was poorly. Obviously I never printed her translation and I quickly stashed it in a file under my bed. Oh well, derek 1
Dewsburyborn Posted October 20, 2021 Posted October 20, 2021 On 15/05/2006 at 18:28, Guest said: According to Greg Tormo, in an old issue of Shades Of Soul, the group said they recorded and produced the tracks themselves, and the record was issued without their knowledge or approval. George Kerr also registered himself as the writer of the songs, despite the fact that the group had written them, apparently... Does anyone out there have an index of 'Shades' showing which issue Greg's interview on The New Sounds is in, please ?
Billy Jo Jim Bob Posted October 20, 2021 Posted October 20, 2021 2 hours ago, Dewsburyborn said: Does anyone out there have an index of 'Shades' showing which issue Greg's interview on The New Sounds is in, please ? Garry I think I've got nearly all issues up in the loft and I'll try and have a quick look. Alternatively Mr Pearson may have it at his fingertips ? @Derek Pearson Andy Mac
Dewsburyborn Posted October 20, 2021 Posted October 20, 2021 Hi Andy Thanks for your feedback. I did check with DP first - not at his fingertips, sadly LOL His personal index doesn't show anything identifying the article. Best, Garry
Alan T Posted October 20, 2021 Posted October 20, 2021 Hi Garry, i dont know which mag the New Sounds interview was in but all the issues were put on here in PDF format by Seano. They can be found here. https://www.soul-source.co.uk/tags/Magazines/ Seano might have an index to whats in each mag
Alan T Posted October 20, 2021 Posted October 20, 2021 (edited) I think i've found it Issue 30 May 2002 page 55 This is by Greg but not an interview, maybe thats in an other issue. If i find it i'll post a link. Edited October 20, 2021 by Alan T
Dewsburyborn Posted October 20, 2021 Posted October 20, 2021 Wonderful - thanks so much, saves me having to schlepp through each individual mag. If you do find any extra info from Greg, please post. Much appreciated.
Blackpoolsoul Posted October 21, 2021 Posted October 21, 2021 18 hours ago, Alan T said: I think i've found it Issue 30 May 2002 page 55 This is by Greg but not an interview, maybe thats in an other issue. If i find it i'll post a link. Supplied to me
Dewsburyborn Posted October 21, 2021 Posted October 21, 2021 Thank you, Blackpoolsoul. As the tracks seems to have been cut in Va. not NJ - does anyone have any idea of the studio(s) used ?
Blackpoolsoul Posted October 21, 2021 Posted October 21, 2021 1 hour ago, Dewsburyborn said: Thank you, Blackpoolsoul. As the tracks seems to have been cut in Va. not NJ - does anyone have any idea of the studio(s) used ? I started a thread ages ago and as Madlad's sites has gone, I can't remember
Mike Posted October 21, 2021 Posted October 21, 2021 1 hour ago, Blackpoolsoul said: I started a thread ages ago and as Madlad's sites has gone, I can't remember the site is still there, just looks like the content/structure has had a revamp https://djmadlad.com/
Rick Cooper Posted October 21, 2021 Posted October 21, 2021 For anyone who wants The New Sound LP it was issued on a CD by Outta Sight in 2011, coupled with the Willie and West -At Their Best LP plus Robert Tanner - Sweet Memories. The sound quality is fairly good, much better than most Turbo/Stang vinyl . At present it is listed as being in stock on their web site.
Blackpoolsoul Posted October 21, 2021 Posted October 21, 2021 3 hours ago, Source said: the site is still there, just looks like the content/structure has had a revamp https://djmadlad.com/ Thanks Mike I thought my old friend had gone
Dewsburyborn Posted October 21, 2021 Posted October 21, 2021 Thanks to all for their input on my enquiry. Look out for a Hit and Run 45 in 2022, subject to pressing plant vagaries...
Blackpoolsoul Posted October 22, 2021 Posted October 22, 2021 11 hours ago, Dewsburyborn said: Thanks to all for their input on my enquiry. Look out for a Hit and Run 45 in 2022, subject to pressing plant vagaries... This could do with a press
Chalky Posted October 22, 2021 Posted October 22, 2021 The original photo of the one Blackpoolsoul posted from Madlad website
Shinehead Posted October 22, 2021 Posted October 22, 2021 Is this LP as good as the hype it has received ? I have only heard one track from it which did not blow me away .
Wheelsville1 Posted October 22, 2021 Posted October 22, 2021 35 minutes ago, Shinehead said: Is this LP as good as the hype it has received ? I have only heard one track from it which did not blow me away . Don't take your love is an amazing track. Sweet memories is ok but not as good as the 45. 1
Dewsburyborn Posted October 22, 2021 Posted October 22, 2021 Several cuts on youtube. 2022 'Hit and Run' 45 will be : Don't Take Your Love + Here I Am / How I Feel Inside 2
Blackpoolsoul Posted October 22, 2021 Posted October 22, 2021 10 minutes ago, Dewsburyborn said: Several cuts on youtube. 2022 'Hit and Run' 45 will be : Don't Take Your Love + Here I Am / How I Feel Inside I hope you release then as "The New Sound" and not "Sounds" as they were called "The New Sound"
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