Bossfourpart1 Posted March 17, 2013 Posted March 17, 2013 Does anyone have any info on links between Jessica and Essica records. (apart from the J being dropped off one ). Apologies if this has been covered before. many thanks Frank (Norwich )
Bossfourpart1 Posted March 26, 2013 Author Posted March 26, 2013 jessica 401 willie small how high can you fly / say you will (eddie silvers) essica 404 curtis smith the living end / say you will (curtis smith) both records have the same "say you will " on them and have Angie music BMI on them , I have played the tracks and they have the same delivery of "say you will". I can only assume that Willie Small and Curtis smith are the same person!!!
TOAD Posted March 26, 2013 Posted March 26, 2013 misery loves company essica forgot the artist was played at wigan
pikeys dog Posted March 26, 2013 Posted March 26, 2013 jessica 401 willie small how high can you fly / say you will (eddie silvers) essica 404 curtis smith the living end / say you will (curtis smith) both records have the same "say you will " on them and have Angie music BMI on them , I have played the tracks and they have the same delivery of "say you will". I can only assume that Willie Small and Curtis smith are the same person!!! Some of the Curtis Smith are miss-pressed with How High Can You Fly on them. 1
Dave Rimmer Posted March 27, 2013 Posted March 27, 2013 Here's the info I've got: Jessica 401 - Willie Small How High Can You Fly / Say You Will - 1965 Jessica 402 - Rozetta Johnson - That Hurts / It’s Nice To Know — 1965 Jessica 403 - ? Jessica 404 - Almost certainly released as Essica 404 Jessica 405 - Little Edith - I Couldn’t Take It / I Believe In You - 1965 Essica 404 - Curtis Smith - The Living End / How High Can You Fly - 1965 Essica 404 - Curtis Smith - The Living End / Say You Will - 1965 Essica 002 - Francis, Ruff And The Illusions - Give Me Mercy / Misery Loves Company - 1966 Essica 004 - C-Quents - It’s You And Me / Dearest One - 1966 1
boba Posted March 27, 2013 Posted March 27, 2013 I think everything on Jessica is Milwaukee, always thought it was a milwaukee label. I never made the connection to Essica before though even though it clearly is connected. The c-quents are from DC and ruff francis and the illusions are a white band from new york (they have or at least had a web page). I've never seen two curtis smiths on essica, but one of the sides got released on the local chicago Doma label. There is an Essica 005, it is a very rare release by the Sharpees, I don't have it but know someone who does.
Dave Rimmer Posted March 27, 2013 Posted March 27, 2013 There is an Essica 005, it is a very rare release by the Sharpees, I don't have it but know someone who does. Hi Bob, Have you got any more details on the Sharpees Essica release, titles etc ?
Guest Posted March 27, 2013 Posted March 27, 2013 I've never seen two curtis smiths on essica They actually look the same -- it's only when you play them that you realise that they have different tracks on...
boba Posted March 27, 2013 Posted March 27, 2013 They actually look the same -- it's only when you play them that you realise that they have different tracks on... yeah, I googled and found that, the discography should maybe state that the label is the same but plays a different track (ideally with deadwax info to tell). 1
Guest Posted March 27, 2013 Posted March 27, 2013 Don't know if the deadwax info is different or not and I'm at work now and records at home, so... Will try to remember to check tonight...
Bossfourpart1 Posted March 29, 2013 Author Posted March 29, 2013 Many thanks for the info , very interesting stuff,i'm sure theres more to follow.all the best Frank
Dave Rimmer Posted March 29, 2013 Posted March 29, 2013 (edited) Don't know if the deadwax info is different or not and I'm at work now and records at home, so... Will try to remember to check tonight... And now she's at my house, and the records are at her house.............but I'll remind her to check on Tuesday Jessica 403 - ? This is the one that's bugging me though, I've been trying to find out what it is, or whether it even exists for several months now, and drawn a blank everywhere. Edited March 29, 2013 by Dave Rimmer
Chalky Posted March 29, 2013 Posted March 29, 2013 The deadwax on the miss-pressed Willie Small on Essica is 401-A "Say You Will" and 3135 IRC/45 on "The Living End" side. Both scratched in. 1
Sebastian Posted March 29, 2013 Posted March 29, 2013 (edited) Willie Small on JESSICA401-A on "How High Can You Fly" and 401-B on "Say You Will"Correctly pressed Curtis Smith on ESSICA:3135 IRC/45 on "The Living End" and 401-B on "Say You Will"Mis-pressed Curtis Smith on ESSICA: 3135 IRC/45 on "The Living End" and 401-A on "Say You Will" (plays "How High Can You Fly") Edited March 29, 2013 by Sebastian
pikeys dog Posted March 29, 2013 Posted March 29, 2013 Those numbers indicate that Willie Small was the original issue. At a guess The Living End was the plug side on Curtis Smith, and they decided to fill the flip with one of his earlier recordings (getting the wrong master in the process). 1
boba Posted March 31, 2013 Posted March 31, 2013 What is the Sharpees like? it's good 60s northern. this guy chris carnahan has a copy, he said he would post audio.
Colsoul Posted March 31, 2013 Posted March 31, 2013 It is "Just to please you" / "Hug me tight" if that is it ,also on one derfull 4839 for anyone who does not know it
boba Posted March 31, 2013 Posted March 31, 2013 if that is it ,also on one derfull 4839 for anyone who does not know it "hug me tight" isn't
Mal C Posted March 31, 2013 Posted March 31, 2013 Jessica 402 - Rozetta Johnson - That Hurts / It’s Nice To Know — 1965 Does anybody have one of these for sale or swap / exchange for my Atlantic issue which is mint and in its orig sleeve..? Mal.c.
Sebastian Posted March 31, 2013 Posted March 31, 2013 Just found another 45 on JESSICA. It seems to be from 1982 though, so might not be related, but it also had a St. Louis base: JESSICA 001 - Reuven Kall & Margaret Hines - Main Man / Misty
boba Posted March 31, 2013 Posted March 31, 2013 that was just on ebay, right? i was looking at it when it was up and was thinking it was unrelated.
Sebastian Posted March 31, 2013 Posted March 31, 2013 that was just on ebay, right? i was looking at it when it was up and was thinking it was unrelated. The scan/info above came from an auction that was on eBay in January 2012: https://collectorsfrenzy.com/details/120831876426/REUVEN_KALL__MARGARET_HINES_45_SUPER_RARE_FUNK_SOUL
Dave Rimmer Posted November 12, 2013 Posted November 12, 2013 (edited) I think this is pretty much correct now. Jessica 401 - Willie Small - How High Can You Fly / Say You Will - 1965 Jessica 402 - Rozetta Johnson - That Hurts / It’s Nice To Know — 1965 (Also released on Atlantic 2297) Jessica 403 - ? Jessica 404 - Almost certainly released as Essica 404 Jessica 405 - Little Edith - I Couldn’t Take It / I Believe In You - 1965 Essica 404 - Curtis Smith - The Living End / Blank - 1965 (DJ Copy only) Essica 404 - Curtis Smith - The Living End / Say You Will* - 1965 (*Also released on Doma 101) Essica 404 - Curtis Smith - The Living End / How High Can You Fly - 1965 (To complicate matters more, the two labels actually read the same, ie ‘The Living End / Say You Will’ . It’s only from listening to the records or checking the matrix numbers that you know that ‘Say You Will’ plays ‘How High Can You Fly’ which is identical to ‘How High Can You Fly’ by Willie Small) Essica 002 - Francis, Ruff And The Illusions - Give Me Mercy / Misery Loves Company - 1966 Essica 004 - C-Quents - It’s You And Me / Dearest One - 1966 Essica 005 - The Sharpees - Just To Please You* / Hug Me Tight - 1966 (*Also released as One-derful 4839) Jessica 001 - Reuven Kall & Margaret Hines - Main Man / Misty - 1982 (There is also a slight possibility that this is the same label because of the St Louis connection) Edited November 12, 2013 by Dave Rimmer
boba Posted November 12, 2013 Posted November 12, 2013 this label is so weird. chicago, milwaukee, dc, and new york acts. 1
Dave Rimmer Posted January 7, 2014 Posted January 7, 2014 There is an Essica 005, it is a very rare release by the Sharpees, I don't have it but know someone who does. Hi Bob, Did you get anywhere with obtaining a scan of this ? It's really strange, normally if you do an search of the net for a record you can find some reference to it, either as a past sale, or on a playlist, but I can't find a single thing about this release other than the reference you made to it above. So a scan would be really useful. I'm beginning to piece the story of the label together slowly, I've now made contact with Curtis Smith, and sent him a series of questions, which will answer a lot of the queries that are still outstanding. 1
boba Posted January 7, 2014 Posted January 7, 2014 I have audio, I can't find a scan, the record definitely exists, I think the person who owns it sent me a scan because I remember seeing it but I can't find it. I will look more tomorrow. unrelated, here is your missing AGC number: https://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=350965310460
Dave Rimmer Posted January 29, 2014 Posted January 29, 2014 We spoke to Curtis Smith last Saturday night. he's confirmed as much of the information as he could remember, and added quite a bit of other information that now needs following up. A couple of things for now: The label is definitely St Louis Willie Small & Curtis Smith are one and the same person Curtis Smith has a long history as a guitarist, with a variety of bands going back to the late Fifties, in the Chicago area. He remembers playing guitar on 'Do The 45' and 'Just To Please You' by The Sharpees I'm currently writing up the interview notes into an article, which I'll post here with lot's of label scans, and artist photos. 2
Bossfourpart1 Posted January 31, 2014 Author Posted January 31, 2014 We spoke to Curtis Smith last Saturday night. he's confirmed as much of the information as he could remember, and added quite a bit of other information that now needs following up. A couple of things for now: The label is definitely St Louis Willie Small & Curtis Smith are one and the same person Curtis Smith has a long history as a guitarist, with a variety of bands going back to the late Fifties, in the Chicago area. He remembers playing guitar on 'Do The 45' and 'Just To Please You' by The Sharpees I'm currently writing up the interview notes into an article, which I'll post here with lot's of label scans, and artist photos.Thanks Dave , i had a hunch " Willie S n Curtis S "were the same guy.I'll get you a pint in the Blue Posts.many thanks for the info everyone.cheers Frank
Bossfourpart1 Posted February 17, 2015 Author Posted February 17, 2015 (edited) I think this is pretty much correct now. Jessica 401 - Willie Small - How High Can You Fly / Say You Will - 1965 Jessica 402 - Rozetta Johnson - That Hurts / It’s Nice To Know — 1965 (Also released on Atlantic 2297) Jessica 403 - ? Jessica 404 - Almost certainly released as Essica 404 Jessica 405 - Little Edith - I Couldn’t Take It / I Believe In You - 1965 Essica 404 - Curtis Smith - The Living End / Blank - 1965 (DJ Copy only) Essica 404 - Curtis Smith - The Living End / Say You Will* - 1965 (*Also released on Doma 101) Essica 404 - Curtis Smith - The Living End / How High Can You Fly - 1965 (To complicate matters more, the two labels actually read the same, ie ‘The Living End / Say You Will’ . It’s only from listening to the records or checking the matrix numbers that you know that ‘Say You Will’ plays ‘How High Can You Fly’ which is identical to ‘How High Can You Fly’ by Willie Small) Essica 002 - Francis, Ruff And The Illusions - Give Me Mercy / Misery Loves Company - 1966 Essica 004 - C-Quents - It’s You And Me / Dearest One - 1966 Essica 005 - The Sharpees - Just To Please You* / Hug Me Tight - 1966 (*Also released as One-derful 4839) Jessica 001 - Reuven Kall & Margaret Hines - Main Man / Misty - 1982 (There is also a slight possibility that this is the same label because of the St Louis connection) Ironically , i've found a copy of Curtis smith (sitting in one of my boxes) , say you will on Doma records too, just one to add to the list. regards Frank regards Frank Edited February 17, 2015 by Bossfourpart1
Dave Rimmer Posted February 17, 2015 Posted February 17, 2015 Don't know if you've seen this article I did Frank https://www.soulfulkindamusic.net/artriclejessica.htm
Bossfourpart1 Posted February 19, 2015 Author Posted February 19, 2015 Don't know if you've seen this article I did Frank https://www.soulfulkindamusic.net/artriclejessica.htm Hi Dave ,I haven't seen it !!Thanks for the heads up , nice compilation of info on this link .Thanks for chasing the info on this Dave ..A.T.B. Frank
chriscarnahan2 Posted December 24, 2019 Posted December 24, 2019 (edited) . Edited April 6, 2021 by chriscarnahan2
Frankie Crocker Posted December 24, 2019 Posted December 24, 2019 12 hours ago, chriscarnahan2 said: https://www.chriscarnahan2.com/sharpees.mp3 Nice sound. Is it for sale?
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