Gold Band Posted March 2, 2013 Share Posted March 2, 2013 With the Professionals on ebay at present I have been wondering who likes which version the best. 1.Steve Mancha - Did My Baby Call (Wheelsville 102) 1965 2.Professionals - Did My Baby Call (Groove City 101) 1967 3.The Mad Lads - Did My Baby Call (Volt 4080) 1972 4. Or the latest unissued release Joey Kingfish - Did My Baby Call (Sonic Wax 013) What do you think or has the Question been asked before? Kirsty Link to comment Social source share More sharing options...
Soul Shaw Posted March 2, 2013 Share Posted March 2, 2013 Steve mancha and professionals is the same song different take Steve mancha being the same singer on both Link to comment Social source share More sharing options...
Soul Shaw Posted March 2, 2013 Share Posted March 2, 2013 Personally I prefer the professionals version Link to comment Social source share More sharing options...
Gold Band Posted March 2, 2013 Author Share Posted March 2, 2013 (edited) Me, Myself & I prefer the Mad Lads version it's the more up-tempo version for me. Edited March 2, 2013 by Gold Band 2 Link to comment Social source share More sharing options...
Jim Ohara Posted March 2, 2013 Share Posted March 2, 2013 Steve mancha for me, just ahead of professionals though Link to comment Social source share More sharing options...
Phild Posted March 2, 2013 Share Posted March 2, 2013 Mad lads for me 2 Link to comment Social source share More sharing options...
Shinehead Posted March 2, 2013 Share Posted March 2, 2013 Mad Lads for me too. 1 Link to comment Social source share More sharing options...
Andybellwood Posted March 2, 2013 Share Posted March 2, 2013 And me 2 Link to comment Social source share More sharing options...
Harrogatesoul Posted March 2, 2013 Share Posted March 2, 2013 Groovesville production cut by both the tough detroit city guys vs the muscle shoal'd group perfection? Mad Lads shade it for me but Mancha's tough vocal does give it something else. Link to comment Social source share More sharing options...
Windlesoul Posted March 2, 2013 Share Posted March 2, 2013 (edited) Steve Walls would kill me for this but as much as I am a Mancha fan, the Mad Lads have it here. Two very different versions but Mancha's is a bit dirgey for the hefty price tag, let's face it, the £20 option is the preferred one IMO and its not just inverse snobbery because of the cost either.Enter all Detroit die hards now (used to be one myself) Edited March 3, 2013 by Windlesoul Link to comment Social source share More sharing options...
Dave Pinch Posted March 2, 2013 Share Posted March 2, 2013 profesionals is most money so thats gotta be the best al get me coat 1 Link to comment Social source share More sharing options...
boba Posted March 3, 2013 Share Posted March 3, 2013 mad lads by a mile 2 Link to comment Social source share More sharing options...
Robbk Posted March 3, 2013 Share Posted March 3, 2013 I like The Steve Mancha best. The Funk Brothers' instrumental is the tightest and cleaner than that on The Professionals' version. Link to comment Social source share More sharing options...
Smudger Posted March 3, 2013 Share Posted March 3, 2013 profesionals is most money so thats gotta be the best CAPITOLIST !!!!! Link to comment Social source share More sharing options...
Guest Ivor Jones Posted March 3, 2013 Share Posted March 3, 2013 (edited) With the Professionals on ebay at present I have been wondering who likes which version the best. 1.Steve Mancha - Did My Baby Call (Wheelsville 102) 1965 2.Professionals - Did My Baby Call (Groove City 101) 1967 3.The Mad Lads - Did My Baby Call (Volt 4080) 1972 4. Or the latest unissued release Joey Kingfish - Did My Baby Call (Sonic Wax 013) What do you think or has the Question been asked before? Kirsty Edited March 3, 2013 by Ivor Jones Link to comment Social source share More sharing options...
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Dave Pinch Posted March 3, 2013 Share Posted March 3, 2013 (edited) profesionals is most money so thats gotta be the best CAPITOLIST !!!!! lolol not me martin......i think the mad lads lacks a bit of bite tho Edited March 3, 2013 by dave pinch 1 Link to comment Social source share More sharing options...
Chas Posted March 3, 2013 Share Posted March 3, 2013 Off topic and innapropriate comments removed. Link to comment Social source share More sharing options...
Jumpinjoan Posted March 3, 2013 Share Posted March 3, 2013 Steve Mancha for me Link to comment Social source share More sharing options...
bri pinch Posted March 3, 2013 Share Posted March 3, 2013 (edited) Got to be the professionals for me too, if only for the fact, it's the only version i've got..not really listened to the other three versions too much, so not qualified to comment on them really Edited March 3, 2013 by bri pinch Link to comment Social source share More sharing options...
Jim Ohara Posted March 3, 2013 Share Posted March 3, 2013 Steve Wallls would kill me for this but as much as I am a Mancha fan, the Mad Lads have it here. Two very different versions but Mancha's is a bit dirgey for the hefty price tag, let's face it, the £20 option is the preferred one IMO and its not just inverse snobbery because of the cost either.Enter all Detroit die hards now (used to be one myself) He most certainly would For all that prefer the Mad Lads, I will gladly buy the Steve Mancha from you if you have it Jim Link to comment Social source share More sharing options...
KevH Posted March 3, 2013 Share Posted March 3, 2013 Steve Mancha for me. Love the Mad Lads version though.Off topic slightly but does anyone like "Patch my heart". Link to comment Social source share More sharing options...
Mrtag Posted March 3, 2013 Share Posted March 3, 2013 (edited) Steve Mancha Aka The Professionals (Take) Pure Heaven!!! Edited March 3, 2013 by mrtag Link to comment Social source share More sharing options...
Dave Pinch Posted March 3, 2013 Share Posted March 3, 2013 Got to be the professionals for me too, if only for the fact, it's the only version i've got..not really listened to the other three versions too much, so not qualified to comment on them really dont forget we used to have the mad lads version in the 90`s.shows how much you played it bri lol.....its a decent if not a bit lame version Link to comment Social source share More sharing options...
Dave Pinch Posted March 3, 2013 Share Posted March 3, 2013 but i wouldnt say the £1000 price tag of the professionals and the £15 of mad lads the gulf in quality is not that big a gap Link to comment Social source share More sharing options...
Jim Ohara Posted March 3, 2013 Share Posted March 3, 2013 Yes but remember the other side of the Proffesionals - hence the price difference dave Get your point though Link to comment Social source share More sharing options...
Gold Band Posted March 3, 2013 Author Share Posted March 3, 2013 Steve Mancha for me. Love the Mad Lads version though.Off topic slightly but does anyone like "Patch my heart". Bit of an early doors track for me Kev (For the finger tappers & chin strokers ) but its deffo easy listening with a steady beat. Link to comment Social source share More sharing options...
Tobytyke Posted March 3, 2013 Share Posted March 3, 2013 mad lads for me. the other side is almost as good. Link to comment Social source share More sharing options...
Garethx Posted March 3, 2013 Share Posted March 3, 2013 Steve Mancha by a country mile. Mad Lads is a nice group record though. Steve Mancha is one of the finest Detroit soul records. The Professionals is unconvincing and yet again ('cause we've debated it for years on here) I question whether this is Steve Mancha on lead as mentioned above. Mancha had a highly distinctive voice and this sounds nothing like him to my ears. Link to comment Social source share More sharing options...
boba Posted March 4, 2013 Share Posted March 4, 2013 Mad Lads by a nautical mile John Gary Williams lead, falsetto harmony, psychedelic arrangement > stereotypical detroit lead, stereotypical detroit backing arrangement, very weak backing group that has some guys and some girls come in at some points. Mancha is a great detroit record but there's no comparison. I actually was super psyched to finally get the Mancha 45 for $400, then I opened up the package, and played it, and was "eh" compared to the Mad Lads. 1 Link to comment Social source share More sharing options...
Tricky Posted March 4, 2013 Share Posted March 4, 2013 1-Steve Mancha 1-Mad Lads Both my number 1 both great in own styles. 10-Proffesionals. Average and weak! 2 Link to comment Social source share More sharing options...
Dave Pinch Posted March 4, 2013 Share Posted March 4, 2013 the more i listen to the mad lads the lamer it sounds 1 Link to comment Social source share More sharing options...
John Reed Posted March 4, 2013 Share Posted March 4, 2013 (edited) profesionals is most money so thats gotta be the best al get me coat Oh that made me laugh..... For me its the Mad Lads Edited March 4, 2013 by John Reed Link to comment Social source share More sharing options...
Chalky Posted March 4, 2013 Share Posted March 4, 2013 Steve Mancha and the Mad Lads in equal measure. Don't really want to pick a best because I enjoy each for what they are. 1 Link to comment Social source share More sharing options...
Dave Pinch Posted March 4, 2013 Share Posted March 4, 2013 Oh that made me laugh..... For me its the Mad Lads and it was supposed to john i dont subscribe to the rarity over quality thing but in this case for me1 proffessionals 2 steve mancha 3 joey kingfish 4 macc lads Link to comment Social source share More sharing options...
boba Posted March 4, 2013 Share Posted March 4, 2013 the more i listen to the mad lads the lamer it sounds now you're trying to get me kicked off soul source entirely... Link to comment Social source share More sharing options...
Dave Pinch Posted March 4, 2013 Share Posted March 4, 2013 (edited) now you're trying to get me kicked off soul source entirely... not at all bob.. we cant all be passionate about the same records can we. that would be impossible. i am of course just having a bit of fun Edited March 4, 2013 by dave pinch Link to comment Social source share More sharing options...
Guest Posted March 4, 2013 Share Posted March 4, 2013 With the Professionals on ebay at present I have been wondering who likes which version the best. 1.Steve Mancha - Did My Baby Call (Wheelsville 102) 1965 2.Professionals - Did My Baby Call (Groove City 101) 1967 3.The Mad Lads - Did My Baby Call (Volt 4080) 1972 4. Or the latest unissued release Joey Kingfish - Did My Baby Call (Sonic Wax 013) What do you think or has the Question been asked before? Kirsty Definately The Professionals.Best vocal performance and overall powerful feel.Not influence by so-called rarity nor dealer inflated prices.Just in the grooves. Why is this being talked about now?This was over and done with by the mid 7Ts..... 1 Link to comment Social source share More sharing options...
Mick Shaxted Posted September 21, 2013 Share Posted September 21, 2013 its not about the cost of the record that makes it the best or the label ,its about the feeling that you get when you hear it played not matter which version you like ,everybody to there own 1 Link to comment Social source share More sharing options...
Mal C Posted September 21, 2013 Share Posted September 21, 2013 (edited) wasn't the unreleased version by Joey Kingfish - Did My Baby Call, come out on a Soul supply CD? long before the 45 mentioned above, think it was mid 9ts......Groovesville Review 3 m Edited September 21, 2013 by Mal.C. Link to comment Social source share More sharing options...
Robbk Posted September 21, 2013 Share Posted September 21, 2013 Steve Mancha by a country mile. Mad Lads is a nice group record though. Steve Mancha is one of the finest Detroit soul records. The Professionals is unconvincing and yet again ('cause we've debated it for years on here) I question whether this is Steve Mancha on lead as mentioned above. Mancha had a highly distinctive voice and this sounds nothing like him to my ears. I agree with this. I think The Professionals' lead is NOT Steve Mancha. Link to comment Social source share More sharing options...
MrsWoodsrules Posted September 21, 2013 Share Posted September 21, 2013 Mancha for me. Groovesville just had the best vocalists IMO Steve, Melvin & JJ, cant beat em! Link to comment Social source share More sharing options...
Mrtag Posted September 21, 2013 Share Posted September 21, 2013 I agree with this. I think The Professionals' lead is NOT Steve Mancha. Steve Calloway lead singer with the Professionals will tell you different Link to comment Social source share More sharing options...
Chalky Posted September 21, 2013 Share Posted September 21, 2013 Steve Calloway lead singer with the Professionals will tell you different Whoever it is, Steve Calloway did say it wasn't the Professionals. 1 Link to comment Social source share More sharing options...
Pete S Posted September 21, 2013 Share Posted September 21, 2013 Steve Calloway lead singer with the Professionals will tell you different Steve wasn't lead singer with The Professionals, if he was, he wasn't on their only single. Ask Chalky. Link to comment Social source share More sharing options...
Mrtag Posted September 21, 2013 Share Posted September 21, 2013 Steve wasn't lead singer with The Professionals, if he was, he wasn't on their only single. Ask Chalky. Pete you're not getting him mixed up with the time Hitsville Chalky brought him over and he fronted the Fabulous Peps are you? Chalky say's he was definitely lead singer with the Professionals and brought him over a second time to do a few dates as the Professionals lead singer. Link to comment Social source share More sharing options...
Pete S Posted September 21, 2013 Share Posted September 21, 2013 Pete you're not getting him mixed up with the time Hitsville Chalky brought him over and he fronted the Fabulous Peps are you? Chalky say's he was definitely lead singer with the Professionals and brought him over a second time to do a few dates as the Professionals lead singer. Not what he told me 2 months ago! Said he was just a backing singer on it. Link to comment Social source share More sharing options...
Mrtag Posted September 21, 2013 Share Posted September 21, 2013 Not what he told me 2 months ago! Said he was just a backing singer on it. Just spoke with him Pete he said that Steve Calloway took lead on the record but another band member took lead on the Acetate he had of the other version with a different title I think it was called "I really love my girl/baby" something like that anyway!! Link to comment Social source share More sharing options...
Hitsville Chalky Posted September 21, 2013 Share Posted September 21, 2013 Steve Calloway was mainly the lead singer with group .. there were four takes of it .. at first going to be titled " I really Love My Baby " when i kept playing him the track steve was not 100 % that it was his vocals on the issue ( he never seen the 45 until here in the uk although people in Detroit was telling him they have a 45 out ). as he mainly remembers doing the backing tracks although he said he sounded very much the same as swigle , the group was mainly dance act . steve states the b side is not the professionals ... and very much sounded like steve mancha .. early take where also i've heard the same story in Detroit ..when i was at joe kingfishers place i played him his version which he said it was him ... yet again its over 40yrs and sometimes they forget and get mixed up it happend also when I ws with Yvonne Vernee she swear black and blue my love for your love ..The Elgins was not her ..until i played her the track which she totally forgot about . Did my baby call is a great track regardless which version . 1 Link to comment Social source share More sharing options...
Mrtag Posted September 21, 2013 Share Posted September 21, 2013 Steve Calloway was mainly the lead singer with group .. there were four takes of it .. at first going to be titled " I really Love My Baby " when i kept playing him the track steve was not 100 % that it was his vocals on the issue ( he never seen the 45 until here in the uk although people in Detroit was telling him they have a 45 out ). as he mainly remembers doing the backing tracks although he said he sounded very much the same as swigle , the group was mainly dance act . steve states the b side is not the professionals ... and very much sounded like steve mancha .. early take where also i've heard the same story in Detroit ..when i was at joe kingfishers place i played him his version which he said it was him ... yet again its over 40yrs and sometimes they forget and get mixed up it happend also when I ws with Yvonne Vernee she swear black and blue my love for your love ..The Elgins was not her ..until i played her the track which she totally forgot about . Did my baby call is a great track regardless which version . It is a great track whichever versions takes your fancy!! Link to comment Social source share More sharing options...
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