Settle An Argument ? Ann Sexton

[Guest sharmo 1]

Hi there i was talking to a guy this morning who said that Ann Sexton "You've been gone too long" was bootlegged on yellow label is this correct ? regards Simon.

[Jordirip]

Hi there i was talking to a guy this morning who said that Ann Sexton "You've been gone too long" was bootlegged on yellow label is this correct ? regards Simon.

No. Yellow is orig 77 label. 1st label was local Impel. it was also legally re issued on multicoloured 77.

I'm not sure if Anne Sexton has been bootlegged at all has it?

[Guest sharmo 1]

No. Yellow is orig 77 label. 1st label was local Impel. it was also legally re issued on multicoloured 77.

I'm not sure if Anne Sexton has been bootlegged at all has it?

Well I'd never heard of it being done but you know how these thing's can turn out like some forgotten short run or something done in the late seventies but I didn't think it had been thank you Simon.

[Jim G]

All below are originals

1st Release Impel

2nd Yellow 77

3rd Multi 77

[Joe Tex]

Is their not a W demo as well ?

[Guest woznotwos]

Been told there are yellow bootlegs out there that are hard to tell from the original, was told this back in the 80s by numerous guys

[Guest MrC]

Has never been bootlegged as far as I know, all the ones that were around in the 70s 80s were the multicoloured seventy 7 releases and they're actually legit apparently.

Unless they've just been booted lately by whoever it is that's churning all those lookalikes out, but most have them have another record on the b side anyway.

[Barry]

I'm going 'no'.

[KevH]

All below are originals

1st Release Impel

2nd Yellow 77

3rd Multi 77

Oh No...Jim,not that again...

Edited February 27, 2013 by KevH

[Guest MrC]

All below are originals

1st Release Impel

2nd Yellow 77

3rd Multi 77

Sure the IMPEL one I had many moons ago was a green/blue colour, not red.... but my memories not what it was!

[Jim G]

white demo as well

As far as I know this has never been booted (but you never know..). Only ever seen Red Impels.

It also came out on Inferno aslo pictured below.

[Kev Cane]

white demo as well

As far as I know this has never been booted (but you never know..). Only ever seen Red Impels.

It also came out on Inferno aslo pictured below.

Don,t know about the Demo Jim, but the issue on Seventy 7 was.

Kev

[Jim G]

Don,t know about the Demo Jim, but the issue on Seventy 7 was.

Kev

Anyone got info on this boot? What is the Matrix number?

[Guest sharmo 1]

Thanks for the imput chaps, I'd personly never heared of a yellow boot but this guy wouldn't have it I'll take it as a defernate NO. thank's again Simon.

[Dave Pinch]

when was this record 1st played and by who..anyone know

Edited February 27, 2013 by dave pinch

[Guest sharmo 1]

when was this record 1st played and by who..anyone know

Very good questionDave it's one of those tracks that's strangely alway's been there if you know what i mean.Regards Simon.

[Modernsoulsucks]

I reckon Simon the rumour came about purely because it was a quite common 45 that you saw a lot.

ROD

[Guest sharmo 1]

I reckon Simon the rumour came about purely because it was a quite common 45 that you saw a lot.

ROD

I'd say your bang on with that one young Rodders.

[Dave Pinch]

thats what i mean,,,,its always been there as far as i know and the mulicolured copies were done around 72. were they done for northern consumption or is it just a common 45,,,,must have been a near new release when first spun

[Fuzzj]

when was this record 1st played and by who..anyone know

mecca levine, me thinks.

[KevH]

mecca levine, me thinks.

Or Curtis.? Or both.

[Jim G]

Found the one below on Discogs, it is a boot, but not one I remember seeing from the 70t's looks more recent, but is Yellow

Also full see here for full listing of 77 records: https://www.soulfulki...eventyseven.htm

Here for Ann Sexton: https://www.soulfulkindamusic.net/asexton.htm

Edited February 27, 2013 by jim g

[georgeblackwell]

Remember getting this as a new release from Record Corner in Balham circa 72 along with Continental Four - What You Gave Up - Jay Walking. Ann Sexton never got much exposure at the the time as it was not really considered a "sound" and the tempo was not quite right - unlike Continental Four which got hammered on the decks as a new release.

[Guest Gogs]

Never heard of this being booted on the yellow seventy seven label.

[Andreas B]

Never heard of it being booted either, though I could see that "outta sight" label doing up a repro of it at some point since it always seems to be in demand. All I know is I'm happy I paid 99 cents for my slightly roughed up US original yellow issue!

[Guest giant]

mecca levine, me thinks.

mecca Levine is correct.

[Jim G]

Never heard of this being booted on the yellow seventy seven label.

me neither. if someone could post a scan of what they think is a boot it would be useful together with matrix info. Maybe JM can confirm?

[Jim G]

Don,t know about the Demo Jim, but the issue on Seventy 7 was.

Kev

do you have evidence of this as some very knowledgable people on here seem to disagree!

[Pete S]

thats what i mean,,,,its always been there as far as i know and the mulicolured copies were done around 72. were they done for northern consumption or is it just a common 45,,,,must have been a near new release when first spun

Dave those multicoloured copies were done in 1977. The first represses of stuff on Sound Stage 7 / Seventy Seven etc were the blue ones and they were more likely 74/75 (Suzy Serenade, Little Ritchie etc) Definitely nothing as far back as 72, especially 77 label reissues.

Edited February 28, 2013 by Pete S

[Kev Cane]

do you have evidence of this as some very knowledgable people on here seem to disagree!

Hi Jim, not really, I have one and the tinnieness and flimsy feel of it and because of what others have said made me assume mine was a boot, I would however, be delighted to be wrong and actually own a genuine issue, I reckon John Manship could clear this one up

Kev

[Pete S]

There is not a boot of this on the yellow Seventy Seven label.

There might be a recent carver type one with a stuck on label but there isn't one from the 70's or 80's.

Anyway Kev you only have to see what's in the run off, tells you all you need to know.

[Guest sharmo 1]

There is not a boot of this on the yellow Seventy Seven label.

There might be a recent carver type one with a stuck on label but there isn't one from the 70's or 80's.

Anyway Kev you only have to see what's in the run off, tells you all you need to know.

I'd say petes settled the argument conclusivly no yellow boots (now where can i get some done !!!!!!!!!!!!!!! ONLY JOKING)

[Dave Pinch]

Dave those multicoloured copies were done in 1977. The first represses of stuff on Sound Stage 7 / Seventy Seven etc were the blue ones and they were more likely 74/75 (Suzy Serenade, Little Ritchie etc) Definitely nothing as far back as 72, especially 77 label reissues.

really pete....... that label design doesnt tie in with seventy seven release label at that time..they were black and had reverted to sound stage seven logo again..eddie billups shake off is on both designs from 1972 but that label was used up to 1974.when it changed to the blue sound logo.....do you think they could have been pressed in 1974 maybe... is the vinyl different to the yellow release?..there were new releases on sound ( ann sexton youre losing me brief encounter human) lee fields etc as well as northern reissues1974/75..mind you little richie and the valentines breakaway are on the multi coloured 77 as well as sound plus.was it pressed up with them....would love to get to the bottom of it

[Pete S]

really pete....... that label design doesnt tie in with seventy seven release label at that time..they were black and had reverted to sound stage seven logo again..eddie billups shake off is on both designs from 1972 but that label was used up to 1974.when it changed to the blue sound logo.....do you think they could have been pressed in 1974 maybe... is the vinyl different to the yellow release?..there were new releases on sound ( ann sexton youre losing me brief encounter human) lee fields etc as well as northern reissues1974/75..mind you little richie and the valentines breakaway are on the multi coloured 77 as well as sound plus.was it pressed up with them....would love to get to the bottom of it

Little Ritchie and Breakaways and Ted Ford and Ann Sexton - all done (on multicolour 77 label) in 77 Dave.

Ann Sexton not even played in 74 let alone reissued!

Edited February 28, 2013 by Pete S

[Tank]

I always assumed the Orange/Black 77 issue (or multi-coloured) was just a slightly later press on the newly designed label? I certainly bought it either late '74/early '75 and definitely not as late as 1977. Got the Yellow issue many years later.

[Davetay]

Little Ritchie and Breakaways and Ted Ford and Ann Sexton - all done (on multicolour 77 label) in 77 Dave.

Ann Sexton not even played in 74 let alone reissued!

Ann Sexton was played out and about in 74 Pete. 100%

Also the muticoloured copies where in stock at Black Wax in London 75.

Edited February 28, 2013 by davetay

[Pete S]

You're all wrong

show me some evidence that the coloured 77 label was around in 74/75.

Then I'll shut up.

Edited February 28, 2013 by Pete S

[Pete S]

Ann Sexton was played out and about in 74 Pete. 100%

Also the muticoloured copies where in stock at Black Wax in London 75.

So if I go through all the Black Wax adverts in Black Music from 1975 I'll find it will I?

Only asking cos don't want to waste half an hour

[Dave Pinch]

was little richie, ted ford and valentines played at the torch...........just askin

[Jim G]

was little richie, ted ford and valentines played at the torch...........just askin

Valentines deffo, i was there. On Black Sound Stage 7, it was getting played in 1971 for def.

Edited February 28, 2013 by jim g

[Pete S]

was little richie, ted ford and valentines played at the torch...........just askin

Yes - doubt it - yes.

I can say with 99.9% certainty that Ted Ford was played at Wigan in 1977 and it was definitely DEFINITELY released on orange 77 label at the end of that year and not before.

Little Ritchie was released at the same time because a rubbish looking Sound Stage 77 bootleg had appeared a month or two earlier. Breakaway and Ann Sexton also then appeared on orange 77 label. Breakaway had previously been out 2 years earlier as had LRitchie.

Or I could be mistaken.

[Ian Dewhirst]

Ann Sexton not even played in 74 let alone reissued!

I'm pretty sure it was played in '74 at the Mecca but it took almost a year before it started to take off. It was around in quantity on the yellow 77 label and it wasn't unusual to see it for a quid or two in many people's boxes. It was a 'last hour' record at the Mecca for ages and built up a cult following and eventually started featuring earlier in the evening. It translated elsewhere at exactly the right point where people were a bit more receptive to different rhythms. It kinda surprised me when it started going big. I thought it was a bit too Southern for the tastes at the time but I was wrong. A guaranteed floor-filler across the country but that was probably 2 years later from when it was first played. A real grower!

Ian D

[Dunc]

Ann Sexton was played out and about in 74 Pete. 100%

Also the muticoloured copies where in stock at Black Wax in London 75.

I would go with Dave on this as we both went to Accrington British Legion Soul Club then, and I remember it being played. The DJ's n collectors bought from soul bowl then weekly. It was about before Ian Levine did his one night spot at the Casino. So that will date it.

Dave was an avid collector then, even going to the states to buy in bulk.

Back to the original question though. Never seen a boot of the yellow label. Unless someone done some lately........

[Davetay]

So if I go through all the Black Wax adverts in Black Music from 1975 I'll find it will I?

Only asking cos don't want to waste half an hour

I don't know about the adds Pete, but we used to go to London on record hurting trips.

And the last time I went was sometime in 75 and bought this and "I Sill Love You"

I did the States thing for the 1st time not long after and never the the London thing again.

I got my 1st yellow copy also in the back end of 75.

Edited March 1, 2013 by davetay

[Davetay]

I'm pretty sure it was played in '74 at the Mecca but it took almost a year before it started to take off. It was around in quantity on the yellow 77 label and it wasn't unusual to see it for a quid or two in many people's boxes. It was a 'last hour' record at the Mecca for ages and built up a cult following and eventually started featuring earlier in the evening. It translated elsewhere at exactly the right point where people were a bit more receptive to different rhythms. It kinda surprised me when it started going big. I thought it was a bit too Southern for the tastes at the time but I was wrong. A guaranteed floor-filler across the country but that was probably 2 years later from when it was first played. A real grower!

Ian D

was little richie, ted ford and valentines played at the torch...........just askin

was little richie, ted ford and valentines played at the torch...........just askin

P.S. I don't know how Ian's post ended up being attached, but since it has. Ann Sexton was a floodfiler at the Mecca in 74 not just in the last hour!

As Jim says, "Breakaway" played at the Torch, but I didn't know "You are Gonna Need Me" and "Just Another Heartbreak" until 74 both played at the Mecca.

Edited March 1, 2013 by davetay

[Pete S]

I'm not arguing about when and where these records were played because that's really easy information to find out. I'm still arguing that the orange 77 label copies were not available until at least 1977 in most cases.

[Dazdakin]

Hmmm all very confusing is this, i always assumed Impal (credited to Masters Of Soul) was first issue local release, Yellow SS7's (credited to Soul Masters) was a pucker (original) national release and that the multi coloured SS7 (Credited only to Ann Sexton) was just an out and out boot leg made to look like the current label design of the SS7 label of the day

If what your sayin is correct ( all original ) with todays OVO policy firmly in place, would it be fonzy cool to play it out on the multi coloured release??

Daz.

[Pete S]

Hmmm all very confusing is this, i always assumed Impal (credited to Masters Of Soul) was first issue local release, Yellow SS7's (credited to Soul Masters) was a pucker (original) national release and that the multi coloured SS7 (Credited only to Ann Sexton) was just an out and out boot leg made to look like the current label design of the SS7 label of the day

If what your sayin is correct ( all original ) with todays OVO policy firmly in place, would it be fonzy cool to play it out on the multi coloured release??

Daz.

Multi coloured is a definite legal reissue. But I'd play it off a fried egg shaped picture disc before anyone told me what I could play..

[KevH]

Multi coloured is a definite legal reissue. But I'd play it off a fried egg shaped picture disc before anyone told me what I could play..

You're yolking.!!

[Dazdakin]

Multi coloured is a definite legal reissue. But I'd play it off a fried egg shaped picture disc before anyone told me what I could play..

Quality reply Pete and got what it deserved me thinks..........gotta ask though.

Daz.