Get It Posted

[Agentsmith]

you cant help but notice that a large proportion of gigs in events, arent being reported on.....in lookbacks and prior to the event...which begs the question....exactly how much interest is being shown in attendance?, we go on about how cluttered the calender is, but despite the casualties new gigs keep starting up in place of the failures.....is it a continuous clutching at straws, a couragous never say die attitude that proves to be more a constant misjudgement of the marketplace. i keep perusing in particular events in the west midlands where the line up of djs isnt even referenced other than the claim of a "top night"......so an empty room is being played to then?. i say to the silent ones on here....stand up and be counted...tell us all about your gig so we get a better understanding of whats on offer or dont bother confusing the issue.

[Kev John]

Totally agree with you're statement Agent Smith

[Guest Garry Huxley]

Wow am i the first to reply, Try soul in the bowl, Rushden, Northamptonshire, Now getting 200-250 people from all across the country, If you dont belive me check out the feed back, After event posts, Dj line up, I recently had the pleasure of doing a spot in len's den (the other room at this event run by len dopson) Main room by Steve & Jem

Garry Huxley

[Agentsmith]

well, i live in telford and a while ago i would have said there was nothing on, worth going to in this county and i certainly wasnt prepared to attend anything in the west mids because i was of the opinion they were all up their own arses. fortunately there are a lot of soulies in this sleepy backwater and we, of course used to have the lea manor not so long ago...big surprise with this spirit thing and good on them, yet there are gigs in shrewsbury where the djing arm is closed shop and no reporting on the gig anyway. ive already posted about brighouse in response to the conjecture about "same ole, same ole" and if youve only got 3 djs and no guests, there's every chance they'll eventually be accused of the same thing...thats another arguement though. to confuse the issue regarding say, just last night ( saturday) round the corner from me in oakengates, there's a gig in a pub which was advertised on here...i'd struggle to expect a lot of people to attend that when confronted with swancote and its sublime line-up of djs....i admit, i didnt attend either, in the light of trying to finance for bigger fish i.e. prestatyn, but if these well meaning folk are going to put it about, theyve got something on, then lets see reports about weather it was any good or not...because it could easily be misconstrued as a fabrication.

Edited February 17, 2013 by AGENTSMITH

[Agentsmith]

Wow am i the first to reply, Try soul in the bowl, Rushden, Northamptonshire, Now getting 200-250 people from all across the country, If you dont belive me check out the feed back, After event posts, Dj line up, I recently had the pleasure of doing a spot in len's den (the other room at this event run by len dopson) Main room by Steve & Jem

Garry Huxley

spoken up gaz, but you dont count,on account of the fact this gig is recognised and does get reported on so rest easy mate!...just scroll events and see what im on about though.

Edited February 17, 2013 by AGENTSMITH

[TOAD]

you dont half talk a load of shite ^

[Guest Garry Huxley]

spoken up gaz, but you dont count,on account of the fact this gig is recognised and does get reported on so rest easy mate!...just scroll events and see what im on about though.

Hey mate, I do know what you mean Been in many so called soul nites & felt lonely, Sh*t pressings played all nite, Music good but it's not what it's about.

I think it's more about trackin down those under played or newies, Or is it just me ????

[Agentsmith]

you dont half talk a load of shite ^

why?...its a point of view and its simple to look at if you view events, if people dont want to post about their local or regional do its entirely up to them but the vast majority of folk on here want the lowdown before making a decision about venturing out to something unfamiliar.......otherwise shall we do away with events posts on here then?

[Guest Garry Huxley]

you dont half talk a load of shite ^

Please qualify your statement to what post ??

[Agentsmith]

"you dont half talk a load of shite" aint gonna provoke the "can of worms/red rag to a bull" implication....all i did was make an observation about events....click on any where there's no comment and you think...well?, was it any good or not?, did anybody attend?, what was the music policy?...but zilch...if you're not prepared to put the effort into making your pitch...why bother advertising on here in the first place?

[TOAD]

who in the west mids is my first question ! Ive had 2 crackin FREE nights out recently. Are you angry cause they dont want you to dj !

[Guest Garry Huxley]

Hey All, Remember back in those early days when you saw in those adverts in blues & soul / Black echoes Etc, Hear sounds like Etc Etc,

At least you knew what to expect !!!!

[Len]

I tell you why some don't bother with the 'build up' to an event / 'look backs' as much as they used to - It's because the 'rules' (for want of a better word) changed on this site. Before the 'rule change', basically, if an event's thread was posted on, the said event would 'go to the top' and show so on the front page - I'm glad it changed, because I got so sick and tired of reading 'Bumbs' - "Hi mate, top night mate...."in joke"....."mundane comment" ...."One on one coversation that had absolutely no interest to anyone else reading" etc, but the unfortunate thing, is that people don't seem to bother as much now because of that - Comparing the two, the latter is better though.

Also, how much can you actually say about an event? "It has a dance floor" - Well, yes...and as for "It has a well-stocked bar" beggars belief! - Please let me know if there's an event, where the manager has decided not to bother stocking the bar.....

Other sites are also used of course, but what that 'rule change' did, was stop these threads becoming silly 'slap on the back from mates' threads, it got to a point where no one actually took any notice of them, as some were such a farce and had absolutely no resemblance of the event anyway.

Yes, there may be less comments, but I think you now get a better picture - Best way is to ask someone's opinion of which you respect - In saying that, it is nice to just take a gamble sometimes - I used to ask a mate about places, but whatever he said about somewhere I took it as the exact opposite - it worked a treat every single time - His 'cr*p nights', were my heaven and visa versa!

All the best,

Len

Edited February 17, 2013 by LEN

[pikeys dog]

"It has a well-stocked bar"beggars belief! - Please let me know if there's an event, where the manager has decided not to bother stocking the bar.....

You obviously never went to Canklow....

[John A]

"It has a well-stocked bar" beggars belief! - Please let me know if there's an event, where the manager has decided not to bother stocking the bar.....

That St Neots alldayer? the other month,you were there weren't you?

Think they ran out of lager by 10 I was horrified

[Guest gordon russell]

when they do post up they use the same old superlatives "all the dj,s done the biz".....theres one fella on here everywhere he goes gets the same write up.......plus he seems to like f**kin everywhere.......The fact is most of those events are sh*te thats why no one goes and no one posts.......as long as you know this alls well.........if you really take notice most on here have found their level and go where their pals go

[Jumpinjoan]

Have to say the way events is set up now is pants and I for one can't be bothered. It's not user friendly at all and actually gets on my nerves

What's with all the boxes? Have a simple list like the main forum, it's so much easier to read. Events was the main reason I came on here and it's now the main reason why I don't

[Len]

Have to say the way events is set up now is pants and I for one can't be bothered. It's not user friendly at all and actually gets on my nerves

What's with all the boxes? Have a simple list like the main forum, it's so much easier to read. Events was the main reason I came on here and it's now the main reason why I don't

Yes I agree - Although it's stopped the 'silly bollox' threads, it's also stopped people looking to some extent (I think anyway) - Maybe someone should have bought this up with Mike, as I'm sure he'll take on board what's been said.

All the best,

Len

[Jumpinjoan]

Yes I agree - Although it's stopped the 'silly bollox' threads, it's also stopped people looking to some extent (I think anyway) - Maybe someone should have bought this up with Mike, as I'm sure he'll take on board what's been said.

All the best,

Len

I have Len but I seem to be the only one ever to say anything I'm sure he thinks it's just me People are quick to txt and pm and stuff but won't post. This probably isn't the place to bring it up but hey ho, too late now

[Guest dundeedavie]

A lot of venue reports are shite anyway, either done by or for the promoter..... Half of these things could be classed as creative writing.

I've turned up at too many venues to be told " it's usually busier than this" to believe a single word

[Len]

I have Len but I seem to be the only one ever to say anything I'm sure he thinks it's just me People are quick to txt and pm and stuff but won't post. This probably isn't the place to bring it up but hey ho, too late now

That's why I like ya Joan

All the best,

Len

[Marc Forrest]

...I seem to be the only one ever to say anything I'm sure he thinks it's just me People are quick to txt and pm and stuff but won't post. This probably isn't the place to bring it up but hey ho, too late now

no, you are not. I said the same when the new events section started. havent put up there one single event out of the several ones I guest at or organize on my own every year. I just couldnt be bothered anymore because like you I think its definitely not user-friendly and in my opinion is one of the main reasons it now seems to be one of the sections within soul-source that see the lowest activity. looks like everybody (incl. me) is using fb events these days.

[Jumpinjoan]

no, you are not. I said the same when the new events section started. havent put up there one single event out of the several ones I guest at or organize on my own every year. I just couldnt be bothered anymore because like you I think its definitely not user-friendly and in my opinion is one of the main reasons it now seems to be one of the sections within soul-source that see the lowest activity. looks like everybody (incl. me) is using fb events these days.

Events are what the soul scene is all about (for me anyway) but it seems like that is forgotten on here. First of all events get relegated from the main forum (but freebasing can stay - what's that all about?) and now they are a bunch of boxes that are so difficult to differentiate between it's not even funny. I just don't understand it

[MotownDave]

i think Marc has hit the nail on the head in his post above . most seem to use fb in fact it seems the events section is becoming slightly redundant because fb and the constant ivite friends malarky is taking over , though it does limit the type of events you may see according to your freinds or lack there of . and Mr A I would think mortified was more accurate than horrified

[John A]

i think Marc has hit the nail on the head in his post above . most seem to use fb in fact it seems the events section is becoming slightly redundant because fb and the constant ivite friends malarky is taking over , though it does limit the type of events you may see according to your freinds or lack there of . and Mr A I would think mortified was more accurate than horrified

I was both Dave and BOO to freakbook!!

Hope ya well mate,will have to catch up soon.

Edited February 17, 2013 by John A

[Mike]

Events are what the soul scene is all about (for me anyway) but it seems like that is forgotten on here. First of all events get relegated from the main forum (but freebasing can stay - what's that all about?) and now they are a bunch of boxes that are so difficult to differentiate between it's not even funny. I just don't understand it

event comments got 'promoted" not relegated to its own feature

as said i think at the time , i felt i could go no further with the customisations of the event forums

time has shown this imo to be the correct decision both on the technical side and also on the activity side

rather than scour 1000+ topics in an all in one forum

(there's currently 1000+ upcoming events)

members can now get to any event in 5 -30 seconds to read the comments

each box in the event guide shows the flyer if available and is also colour coded depending on the type of event

as said in the pm to you will bring in a more trad list view option when things are solid

[Mike]

i think Marc has hit the nail on the head in his post above . most seem to use fb in fact it seems the events section is becoming slightly redundant because fb and the constant ivite friends malarky is taking over , though it does limit the type of events you may see according to your freinds or lack there of . and Mr A I would think mortified was more accurate than horrified

figures here says over the last 12 months the events guide is currently at its busiest ever (over the last few weeks)

so myself would say its far from being redundant, but of course that just my take on things

[Mike]

no, you are not. I said the same when the new events section started. havent put up there one single event out of the several ones I guest at or organize on my own every year. I just couldnt be bothered anymore because like you I think its definitely not user-friendly and in my opinion is one of the main reasons it now seems to be one of the sections within soul-source that see the lowest activity. looks like everybody (incl. me) is using fb events these days.

the submit event feature ain't changed so dont really get the can't be bothered bit

on user friendly, disgaree

if want to view any allnighter

its a two click affair

got to events

click upcoming allnighters

all allnighters listed

away you go

on activity as said in previous post its at its highest point right now over the last 12 months

[Mike]

Yes I agree - Although it's stopped the 'silly bollox' threads, it's also stopped people looking to some extent (I think anyway) - Maybe someone should have bought this up with Mike, as I'm sure he'll take on board what's been said.

All the best,

Len

yep do take on board feedback Len and it all does have a effect

though problem as far as i see it is people get mixed up between

the actual event guide and event comments

the event guide is built on events - and that is the main focus

so you go to a event to read the comments

while try and offer alternative views so people can keep up with latest comments etc

it does seem that people get used to these alternative views and then seem to forget that it is an actual event guide first

the comments are an important part of it but the actual event is the main focus

[Agentsmith]

who in the west mids is my first question ! Ive had 2 crackin FREE nights out recently. Are you angry cause they dont want you to dj !

apart from djing for ginger, kev or richard i dont have crackin' freebies...i pay like anyone else. i dont dj in the west mids because i dont go there or live there although i was BORN THERE and lived there up until 10 years ago. i did all the venues and after formal education at the manor i realised there was more to life than the same ole, same ole...infact id go as far as to say that lifeline is the most far reaching and refreshing aspect that the west midlands has to offer these days as anywhere that is of any substance at all, is in the heartlands...the north and northwest of england...from stoke onwards and, thats with the greatest of respect to our friends in the south who also have fantastic enthusiasm and creativity at their gigs. i went to the catacombs which was, in its heyday at the forefront of the scene when it was new and vibrant but i dont see any measurable distance been put between then and now. the west mids has stalled. i certainly dont have any anger...how can i if i get to do some of the BEST venues in the country, courtesy of promotors who just so happen to be very good friends as well?

.......anyway the post has had the desired effect and created debate which, even mike has entered into....its obviously relevant because so many people have shown interest already and regardless of what ANYONE on here thinks of me personally, i always seem, somewhat unerringly to get an encouraging comment or a nod of appreciation...so are you someone who knows me personally and if so, state why what i say grates with you....other than "talking a load of shite", which quite frequently on here, I DONT.

[Guest Garry Huxley]

apart from djing for ginger, kev or richard i dont have crackin' freebies...i pay like anyone else. i dont dj in the west mids because i dont go there or live there although i was BORN THERE and lived there up until 10 years ago. i did all the venues and after formal education at the manor i realised there was more to life than the same ole, same ole...infact id go as far as to say that lifeline is the most far reaching and refreshing aspect that the west midlands has to offer these days as anywhere that is of any substance at all, is in the heartlands...the north and northwest of england...from stoke onwards and, thats with the greatest of respect to our friends in the south who also have fantastic enthusiasm and creativity at their gigs. i went to the catacombs which was, in its heyday at the forefront of the scene when it was new and vibrant but i dont see any measurable distance been put between then and now. the west mids has stalled. i certainly dont have any anger...how can i if i get to do some of the BEST venues in the country, courtesy of promotors who just so happen to be very good friends as well?

.......anyway the post has had the desired effect and created debate which, even mike has entered into....its obviously relevant because so many people have shown interest already and regardless of what ANYONE on here thinks of me personally, i always seem, somewhat unerringly to get an encouraging comment or a nod of appreciation...so are you someone who knows me personally and if so, state why what i say grates with you....other than "talking a load of shite", which quite frequently on here, I DONT.

Well said , So "no explanation needed" further than this.

Garry

[soulsalmon]

Our event 45 Revolutions is well advertised on here,FB,Twitter etc & we do always get feedback on here,good,bad or indifferent but feedback none the less,we're always open to sugestions for improvement and we reply to all questions asked

[Jumpinjoan]

event comments got 'promoted" not relegated to its own feature

as said i think at the time , i felt i could go no further with the customisations of the event forums

time has shown this imo to be the correct decision both on the technical side and also on the activity side

rather than scour 1000+ topics in an all in one forum

(there's currently 1000+ upcoming events)

members can now get to any event in 5 -30 seconds to read the comments

each box in the event guide shows the flyer if available and is also colour coded depending on the type of event

as said in the pm to you will bring in a more trad list view option when things are solid

I only view the site through 'new content' and the boxes are a real nightmare. If you could revert back to a list like the main forum (when time allows of course) that would be great!

Thanks Mike

[MotownDave]

Mike i think the events guide will always be relativly busy , its probably the best all in one guide currently available its the events chat part that is possibly going to become more or less redundant . though all you can do is offer the feature and it either gets used or not is down to the indevidual members. like you said you see the figures so you should know what the traffic is like 'on site' . just keep up the good work

atb dave t

[Len]

when they do post up they use the same old superlatives "all the dj,s done the biz".....theres one fella on here everywhere he goes gets the same write up.......plus he seems to like f**kin everywhere.......The fact is most of those events are sh*te thats why no one goes and no one posts.......as long as you know this alls well.........if you really take notice most on here have found their level and go where their pals go

Taking this thread on a slightly different tangent - I must admit, every so often I’ve been guilty of heavily focusing on the positive about an event, even though for me there has been some negatives, the reason being is that the last thing some events need is negative feedback, because rather than that negative feedback being constructive, sometimes it can cause damage.

Yes it’s a bit of ‘propaganda’, but the difference is that I don’t do it because mates are running the event, it’s simply because I believe in an event, and want to encourage ‘first timers’ to attend - I don’t think that’s a major crime. You’re right though, most people have ‘found their level’, and know the places they want to attend now anyway.

All the best,

Len

Edited February 19, 2013 by LEN

[Guest]

...and as for "It has a well-stocked bar" beggars belief! - Please let me know if there's an event, where the manager has decided not to bother stocking the bar.....

We were somewhere recently (Rugby?) and by the end of the night they had pretty much run out of beer, so it does happen!

[Steve L]

We were somewhere recently (Rugby?) and by the end of the night they had pretty much run out of beer, so it does happen!

I wonder why?

Direct quote from Dave Rimmer on the mike whilst DJing on the night in question " JESSICA.......BEEEEEER"

[Len]

We were somewhere recently (Rugby?) and by the end of the night they had pretty much run out of beer, so it does happen!

Yes, they do need to 'well,well' stock the bar if Mr Rimmer's attending (Bless him)

Ok, ok - Maybe that is stated to verify they have achknowledged this does happen and that on 'this night' there will be plenty of beer. I was just asking, how much can there really be said on a 'build up' to an event? - The 'look backs' are more important to people considering going somewhere I suppose.

All the best,

Len

[dedji1955]

Whilst the events column might be busy on Soul Source I think it is used to check whats on and most folk appear to use FB to give feedback and post pictures

Like others have said IMHO the events section was more user friendly prior to being updated

[Barry]

There's very little that offends me when I go to local do's musically or otherwise.

Maybe some of the problem folk have with local do's which bring only local folk and not many 'players' is the lack of brown-nosing that can be done?

Maybe not?

[KevH]

I wonder why?

Direct quote from Dave Rimmer on the mike whilst DJing on the night in question " JESSICA.......BEEEEEER"

Followed a few minutes later by "Jessica's got me a beer".!! Thanks for the update Dave.

[Mike]

Whilst the events column might be busy on Soul Source I think it is used to check whats on and most folk appear to use FB to give feedback and post pictures

Like others have said IMHO the events section was more user friendly prior to being updated

thanks for views on the tech/geek side

maybe better if all talk on the actual tech/geek side is done in another thread as it sort of gets things mixed up

though one of the aims of the recent upgrade was to improve the user side

which i do feel was achieved as there are now less links/hoops on the actual index page

maybe with hindsight should have done the layout and usability (a word?) changes separate

on comments via fb etc

comments have always been members only and so would say aimed at members of soul source rather than a wider audience

though could maybe give all event promoters the opportunity for guest comments as well, if there's a demand ?

from what seen maybe a fair description when compared to past days may be quantity down, quality up?

also the playlist forum has imo been overlooked so far in this thread as it does provide a place for more 'soul source' type discussion

and is also fairly busy/active

https://www.soul-sour...ents-playlists/

thanks

mike

[Dave Rimmer]

We were somewhere recently (Rugby?) and by the end of the night they had pretty much run out of beer, so it does happen!

Yes it was Rugby, but the reason behind it was that the current company managing the Benn Hall have lost the contract, so were not ordering any beer before their contract expired. They usually have enough beer for everyone.

I wonder why?

Direct quote from Dave Rimmer on the mike whilst DJing on the night in question " JESSICA.......BEEEEEER"

You'll give me a bad name But there's no point in having a girlfriend if you have to fetch your own beer. What's more I had to call out twice before she responded !

Followed a few minutes later by "Jessica's got me a beer".!! Thanks for the update Dave.

I like to keep people informed of the current state of play

Edited February 19, 2013 by Dave Rimmer

[Steve L]

You'll give me a bad name But there's no point in having a girlfriend if you have to fetch your own beer. What's more I had to call out twice before she responded !

I wish I could do the same with my Mrs, I reckon she's been to the bar 3 times in 33 years

ATB... Mr H. Pecked

[Guest gordon russell]

dosen,t help either.....when you see dj type fellas.....posting

"looking forward to djing" (wherever?) or "got my box sorted".....or even worse "heard so many good reports about this place" (again wherever?)......then posting afterwards (usually the only posts) "thanks for letting me spin a few to a knowledgable and up for it crowd" thought i,d get 3 bits of bullshit in at once......the upshot no one takes any notice of this shite,hence they don,t bother to post. Especially as said dj types never set foot in the place again (wherever?, that may be)

[Spacehopper]

as a pre and post event poster i agree its a shame there isnt more activity BUT dont think for one minute just because there isnt much post event action on here that the events advertised are not busy....i believe there was 300 at gloucester allnighter on saturday and only 4 or 5 posts....ive said it before djs post on here,promoters and sellers post on here,collecters and people who who used to go out post on here...the majority of people who go out week in and week out in my experience do not...

if you wanna know what a nite is like....GO!

dean

[Back Street Blue]

as a pre and post event poster i agree its a shame there isnt more activity BUT dont think for one minute just because there isnt much post event action on here that the events advertised are not busy....i believe there was 300 at gloucester allnighter on saturday and only 4 or 5 posts....ive said it before djs post on here,promoters and sellers post on here,collecters and people who who used to go out post on here...the majority of people who go out week in and week out in my experience do not...

if you wanna know what a nite is like....GO!

dean

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[Dave Thorley]

Think it's a mixture of two things. One is it's a changing world and lot's of people now post on events pages on Facebook or comment there after events instead of here. Also when they re-arranged the site here to prevent people constantly bumping their events, but saying nothing (which I think was a good thing), it had the reverse effect of making it less immediate, harder to see what was really being talked about, i.e. hot events, so people simply migrated somewhere else. The way it is now arrange, means that events that are maybe 6 months away, but maybe one where lots of people will go, say more than 500+ and need lots of discussion, ie accomodation, latest update, artists added, have become almost invisible.

Look how little visibility,.events like Soul Essence, Skegness, Bamberg, Hamburg, Movin' On or even Prestatyn have here on a daily basis, yet on Facebook they are getting 10's of posts a day, people migrate to where things are easiest to use.

[Mike]

Think it's a mixture of two things. One is it's a changing world and lot's of people now post on events pages on Facebook or comment there after events instead of here. Also when they re-arranged the site here to prevent people constantly bumping their events, but saying nothing (which I think was a good thing), it had the reverse effect of making it less immediate, harder to see what was really being talked about, i.e. hot events, so people simply migrated somewhere else. The way it is now arrange, means that events that are maybe 6 months away, but maybe one where lots of people will go, say more than 500+ and need lots of discussion, ie accomodation, latest update, artists added, have become almost invisible.

Look how little visibility,.events like Soul Essence, Skegness, Bamberg, Hamburg, Movin' On or even Prestatyn have here on a daily basis, yet on Facebook they are getting 10's of posts a day, people migrate to where things are easiest to use.

changing world

looks like it goes beyond events

fact that Rob Moss latest article can only draw 4 comments says it all really

[Little-stevie]

A changing world indeed,people move from one medium to another... As Dean said though, a poor look back or little or no chat does not mean the night was a flop....

Maybe the bubble as burst for many that used to post comments feedback, yes indeed the likes of facebook , mobile alerts to your phone, now twitter etc etc etc, other options came available...

Maybe some feedback on here can sort a few things out and give Mike/ Mods a way to make changes to give it a tweak.. But as Mike said, the views are still as strong if not stronger, its just the posts that have dropped away....

I miss the banter on events chat on here, its the place that many 1st came together..

With the ammount of members and events its was always gonna happen, with the shear volume then something as to give and things are bound to change....