Soulful House

[Guest realsoulfan]

[quot. when i go to the italian restaurant in town the last thing i want is king prawn dopiaza!

Shane

Don't know about you but when i go for an italian i don't just expect pizza

[Guest geoffwa3]

Don't think anyone said that, wasn't the debate about having this music in northern soul main rooms? You can like whatever you want, just keep it in the right place, think that has been the argument. I go to jazz clubs for jazz, ska clubs for ska etc and you may feel superior and pompously declare that you have evolved because you like this music but at the end of the day its as irrelevant to northern soul as Andy BB's Des O'Connor fetish.

Have a nice weekend everyone.

PS Is Lin Taylor really a pseudonym for Dave Rimmer? Thats what I was told.

Sorry for pompously declaring I have evolved, what I meant was that my tastes may have changed and what I prefer musically now might not be the same as 10/20/30 years ago. Maybe, like you, I embrace ALL soul music across the genres and have an open mind without being critical? Disco???????

[Guest geoffwa3]

"Fake".. Alexander O'Neal ...soul or house version

Drum'n'Bass version by Snoop Shaggy Dog does it for me

[Guest ShaneH]

why are people looked upon like stick in the mud dinosaurs if you dont embrace all kinds of soul music?

its not about moving on so don't give me that b******. i got into this scene cos i liked 60s soul. moving on for me is hearing new stuff from the eras i love best.

i hear soulful house everytime i go to bars in town with my non-soul mates. i dont mind it in there.

anyway, you are more likely to hear a recent tune at a northern event than vice versa. what does that say about your argument of embracing all types of soul??

no disrespect to other scenes and i hope they all flourish.

you cant criticise people for not giving it a chance. i am sure many people popped there head into that little room at prestatyn and thought 'nah, not for me'. i certainly did.

Shane

[Guest ang b]

since listening to modern soul at prestatyn withmy good friends modernlass & geoffwa3 i can say i have since been to two modern nights & had a great time & will definatly do many more, the buzz & atmosphere i felt was better than some nighters have given me in a long time, i wont be giving up my soul times but i now have more places to go & a great time every time

[Guest Baz]

why are people looked upon like stick in the mud dinosaurs if you dont embrace all kinds of soul music?

Because they want to appear 'Soulier-than-thou'

Sorry Andy keep nicking that off you but its brilliant

[Dave Rimmer]

PS Is Lin Taylor really a pseudonym for Dave Rimmer? Thats what I was told.

No it's not, but we only live about three miles from each other

[Guest TONY ROUNCE]

As someone who has been into northern soul for many years and then progressed onto modern soul and now soulful house. Can someone please please tell me why u soulful boys and girls think that there is no place for soulful house. Have any of u listened to this music and if u have u will find like I have that u will get no better lyrics or those feelings we have all felt on the back of our necks. Come on we need to move forward and unite and accept that soulful house has the right to b played at our venues. I can remember when I used to go to Queens Hall Bradford and we were slated downstairs for listening to rave music - and guess what it was'nt rave it was modern soul, which some of our DJs are playing now.

Come on u djs and dancers give it a go and u might b pleasently surprised - we have to move forward and get more young people involved in our scene if not surely one day we will all be sitting round with our zimmer frames waiting for the bus to collect us.....

A very frustrated soulie waiting for the perfect night were we are given the right to listen to pure soul music at its best......

"Soulful House" - the very personification of what the word "oxymoron". was devised to describe

It tried to ruin the modern scene in the 90s when Simon Dunmore, Bob Jones et al decided we needed to hear it, but fortunately sanity prevailed (eventually).

I'm not saying that house records can't be soulful - I have many that patently are - but I'd sooner not have them shoved at me in the name of entertainment, when there are so many under-rated and underplayed Modern and Northern records out there screaming for re-evaulation first!

TONE, THE PART-TIME LUDDITE :angry:

[Dave Rimmer]

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QUOTE(ang b @ May 5 2006, 07:17 PM) link

since listening to modern soul at prestatyn withmy good friends modernlass & geoffwa3 i can say i have since been to two modern nights & had a great time & will definatly do many more, the buzz & atmosphere i felt was better than some nighters have given me in a long time, i wont be giving up my soul times but i now have more places to go & a great time every time

Excellently put. You go into Modern rooms to listen to Modern Soul.

I always think that the people who now look down their ever so trendy noses at the people who haven't 'evolved' or 'moved on' as complete arseholes anyway if they try and tell me I am wrong.

What gives you the right to tell me I have to like the music you do ? I like Sixties Soul when I go out, and that's what I want to listen to. I don't barge into Modern rooms and expect an hour of Sixties when someone is playing Modern inthe main room do I ? So what gives you people the right to tell me you have moved on and I'm in the wrong.

[Cunnie]

why are people looked upon like stick in the mud dinosaurs if you dont embrace all kinds of soul music?

its not about moving on so don't give me that b******. i got into this scene cos i liked 60s soul. moving on for me is hearing new stuff from the eras i love best.

i hear soulful house everytime i go to bars in town with my non-soul mates. i dont mind it in there.

anyway, you are more likely to hear a recent tune at a northern event than vice versa. what does that say about your argument of embracing all types of soul??

no disrespect to other scenes and i hope they all flourish.

you cant criticise people for not giving it a chance. i am sure many people popped there head into that little room at prestatyn and thought 'nah, not for me'. i certainly did.

Shane

Sorry Shane but the stuff you hear in the bars in Sheffield might be House but it certainly ain't Soulful House (if it is you must let me know where they are mate).

Was good to see you at Prestatyn in the House of Soul for a few minuites, at least you gave it a chance.

Shame a few more didn't follow your lead.

Likewise i popped into the RnB room to have a listen for a few minuites & had an interesting chat with Joe Dutton & Roger Banks in there. We sort of agreed to disagree on most things but the one thing we did agree on is how boring it would be if we all liked the same stuff & if we did niether of the mentioned rooms would have been open.

Main point i'm trying to make is i don't come on here slagging off RnB & i have given it a chance so is there any need for folks to try hijacking this topic & spoiling it simply because they don't like whats being talked about.

Think a lot af folks are missing the point on here & as usual are looking at this strictly from a Northern viewpoint.

Mart...

[Guest Russ Smith]

My God what next ?

Soulful Techno / Drum and Soul ?

To compare Soulful House/Deep House/ Progressive etc etc with 60s or 70s Northern is pointless.

Totally different sound and just a repeat of the Northern vs Modern soul endless debate.

Edited May 5, 2006 by Russ Smith

[Dave Rimmer]

Think a lot af folks are missing the point on here & as usual are looking at this strictly from a Northern viewpoint.

Mart...

I think most people aren't missing the point. The original point was that it Soulful House should be played in Northern venues.

As someone who has been into northern soul for many years and then progressed onto modern soul and now soulful house. Can someone please please tell me why u soulful boys and girls think that there is no place for soulful house. Have any of u listened to this music and if u have u will find like I have that u will get no better lyrics or those feelings we have all felt on the back of our necks. Come on we need to move forward and unite and accept that soulful house has the right to b played at our venues

Obviously people are arguing against it from a 'Northern' point of view. I haven't slagged Soulful House off either, I just don't want it played in Northern Soul venues, because it isn't Northern Soul !

Incidentally, I fail to see why I should move forward and unite, with a musical genre I have no affinity for, do you ?

Edited May 5, 2006 by Dave Rimmer

[Guest Russ Smith]

I have never liked House music or Disco and always prefer to hear live bands( drummers ) rather than studio generated/sampled producer type music.....This is obviously my taste and all house music seems to be a million miles away from the Mecca/ Modern Soul.sound which i love as part of the scene.

I just dont get it at all .. It all seems so "normal " and "High street" to me and House music has been mainstream since 1988 !!

Edited May 5, 2006 by Russ Smith

[Guest ShaneH]

martin (cunnie), dave rimmer answered you for me.

check out all the bars around the devonshire street (sheffield) mate. loads of soulful house being played at the weekends

Shane

[Guest geoffwa3]

QUOTE(ang b @ May 5 2006, 07:17 PM) link since listening to modern soul at prestatyn withmy good friends modernlass & geoffwa3 i can say i have since been to two modern nights & had a great time & will definatly do many more, the buzz & atmosphere i felt was better than some nighters have given me in a long time, i wont be giving up my soul times but i now have more places to go & a great time every time

Excellently put. You go into Modern rooms to listen to Modern Soul.

I always think that the people who now look down their ever so trendy noses at the people who haven't 'evolved' or 'moved on' as complete arseholes anyway if they try and tell me I am wrong.

What gives you the right to tell me I have to like the music you do ? I like Sixties Soul when I go out, and that's what I want to listen to. I don't barge into Modern rooms and expect an hour of Sixties when someone is playing Modern inthe main room do I ? So what gives you people the right to tell me you have moved on and I'm in the wrong.

I must be one of those 'trendy, 'moved on' soulies that you lovingly refer to. I for one don't preach and think that others are 'arseholes' nor do I disrespect your taste in music. I think a lot of you are missing the point here. It isn't suggested that soulful house/Y2K soul is played in the northern room but merely in a seperate room at the venues, space permitting. Also I would like to point out that all the stuff you are listening to in your trendy bars is not the same music we talk about. There is a big difference between soulful house and commercial funky house. Forget about the 'house' tag and think of it more of uptempo soul. Uplifting, spiritual and classy.

[Mark R]

..............wasn't the debate about having this music in northern soul main rooms?

Should make it clear.................from my perspective, I wasn't suggesting that anyone SHOULD like house, or even if they did, that they SHOULD want it played in Northern rooms...........so maybe I went off the original point.

It is the denial that soulful music has evolved into where we are today that winds me up............whether you like it or not is your choice.....fine. It always shocks me that some guys I talk to from the Northern scene think about 70's music when you mention Modern Soul.................it's like the last 20 years doesn't exist!! Thankfully from the replies to this thread so far, it seems that most involved here do appreciate what is being discussed, even though they may not care for it.

I have to say that it is generally the 60's/70's fans that tell me modern soul (not just house) isn't real soul music.................to which my answer is always......."well, ask yourself the question............are you a soul fan, or are you a Northern Soul fan?" There is a difference...........I don't care which you consider yourself, but if it's the latter, then don't presume to tell me what soul music is just because it doesn't fit with your perception!! I'm sure that I don't need anyone to tell me what soul music is..............but equally, I'm sure you all know what you like too!

Respect,

Mark R

[Guest geoffwa3]

Should make it clear.................from my perspective, I wasn't suggesting that anyone SHOULD like house, or even if they did, that they SHOULD want it played in Northern rooms...........so maybe I went off the original point.

It is the denial that soulful music has evolved into where we are today that winds me up............whether you like it or not is your choice.....fine. It always shocks me that some guys I talk to from the Northern scene think about 70's music when you mention Modern Soul.................it's like the last 20 years doesn't exist!! Thankfully from the replies to this thread so far, it seems that most involved here do appreciate what is being discussed, even though they may not care for it.

I have to say that it is generally the 60's/70's fans that tell me modern soul (not just house) isn't real soul music.................to which my answer is always......."well, ask yourself the question............are you a soul fan, or are you a Northern Soul fan?" There is a difference...........I don't care which you consider yourself, but if it's the latter, then don't presume to tell me what soul music is just because it doesn't fit with your perception!! I'm sure that I don't need anyone to tell me what soul music is..............but equally, I'm sure you all know what you like too!

Respect,

Mark R

Big respect to the reverend Mark R

[Guest realsoulfan]

martin (cunnie), dave rimmer answered you for me.

check out all the bars around the devonshire street (sheffield) mate. loads of soulful house being played at the weekends

Shane

Because a records new and have a house sound to it that dosen't mean it's soulfull house there fore played in every city cenrtre bar.

If i hear 60's black music being played somewhere i don't automaticly associate it as northern soul

Edited May 5, 2006 by realsoulfan

[Guest]

Oh Dear

The point is being missed entirely

The records played by some people in northern rooms

are not the same ones that are played in modern rooms

the northern type are not considerd the height of taste on the m curcuit

rather driazaclone and a tad uptempo

Whether people play them in a northern environment i couldnt care less

to get the feel you need a room to do them

and the right crowd

noone enjoys a night where people in the crowd are

looking for heretics to stone as is the want with some northern soul fans

but as my era was the 70s the new releases were do me right denise lasalle

dont you care jodi mathis and 100s of others

maybe the question is rather "should people be playing these type of records

if they think they fit?"

from talking to some of my old muckers from the 70s in other places, i know they like this type of tune

so is right for people to have such strong opinions Mr R

since when did the N scene not do new releases???

remembering the anderson bros as a new release or rather 'non release'

PS the louis bennadetti is a tune but dosnt add much

to the goldie alexander 45

[Guest Russ Smith]

martin (cunnie), dave rimmer answered you for me.

check out all the bars around the devonshire street (sheffield) mate. loads of soulful house being played at the weekends

Shane

Repeat for any town all over the UK.. Just cannot get the connection other than the word Soul.

But then again I'm an old 60s/70s loving dinosaur who was tired of garage/house/techno by 1989 and realised that new dance recordings would never match those recorded in the great era (50s-1975)

Just a thought....

Imagine the uproar if a Funk room would be added to a weekender ( outdated, not Northern, soulful, real drums etc etc )

Edited May 5, 2006 by Russ Smith

[Mark R]

I just dont get it at all .. It all seems so "normal " and "High street" to me and House music has been mainstream since 1988 !!

Mate..............with resect..........please don't think that what you hear in the High Street is what we are talking about here............it almost certainly is NOT.............I'm not asking you to like it..............it is these assumptions that give it a real negative press and put people off.

Cheers,

Mark R

[Guest geoffwa3]

Mate..............with resect..........please don't think that what you hear in the High Street is what we are talking about here............it almost certainly is NOT.............I'm not asking you to like it..............it is these assumptions that give it a real negative press and put people off.

Cheers,

Mark R

Lovin it Mark, go on fella!!

Got to go now I'm off to Prestwich to listen to all types of soul music!

[Guest realsoulfan]

Should make it clear.................from my perspective, I wasn't suggesting that anyone SHOULD like house, or even if they did, that they SHOULD want it played in Northern rooms...........so maybe I went off the original point.

It is the denial that soulful music has evolved into where we are today that winds me up............whether you like it or not is your choice.....fine. It always shocks me that some guys I talk to from the Northern scene think about 70's music when you mention Modern Soul.................it's like the last 20 years doesn't exist!! Thankfully from the replies to this thread so far, it seems that most involved here do appreciate what is being discussed, even though they may not care for it.

I have to say that it is generally the 60's/70's fans that tell me modern soul (not just house) isn't real soul music.................to which my answer is always......."well, ask yourself the question............are you a soul fan, or are you a Northern Soul fan?" There is a difference...........I don't care which you consider yourself, but if it's the latter, then don't presume to tell me what soul music is just because it doesn't fit with your perception!! I'm sure that I don't need anyone to tell me what soul music is..............but equally, I'm sure you all know what you like too!

Respect,

Mark R

aint that the truth

[Guest soul4life]

i for one champion quality soulful dance music! there are many people on both scenes who are embracing this genre..case in point one of the big crossover tracks of rescent times is the..d.j genisis track! tribute to betty..originally played in modern rooms over 2yrs ago and now one of soul sams big spins! the point is it is a great soul record and who really cares wot type of soul music it is..many people love the track and dont give a dam that it is dare i say a SOULFUL GARAGE record..

at the end of the day you either like uptempo soul music or you dont but like it or not this music can only gain strength on our beloved scene! especially with new material by artists such as kenny bobien,john banfield.chris herbert,morrison,larry heard ect,ect..

watch this space..

p.s..its no good listening to this music! you hav to hear it...

LONG LIVE SOUL MUSIC IN ALL ITS FORMS..

[Guest Russ Smith]

Mate..............with resect..........please don't think that what you hear in the High Street is what we are talking about here............it almost certainly is NOT.............I'm not asking you to like it..............it is these assumptions that give it a real negative press and put people off.

Cheers,

Mark R

Mark....With equal respect, i know exactly what music you are talking about ( buying and selling Dance music for 25 years ) , I just cannot get the connection, I know you think this is some kind of evolution and progressive but so many of us just shake our heads and walk away after 10 minutes in the room. Nothing wrong with each to their own and that but what has it got to do with Northern Soul ? Its the " H" word thats the issue here .

Edited May 5, 2006 by Russ Smith

[John Al]

Mark....With equal respect, i know exactly what music you are talking about ( buying and selling Dance music for 25 years ) , I just cannot get the connection, I know you think this is some kind of evolution and progressive but so many of us just shake our heads and walk away after 10 minutes in the room. Nothing wrong with each to their own and that but what has it got to do with Northern Soul ?

If you assume Northern Soul to be purely 60's - nothing. If you appreciate soul, no matter what the pigeon hole then everything. My collection, like a lot of others, has a very strong 60's core but ranges right through 70's, 80's and 90's up to stuff from last month.

In my opinion, far better to drop the "Northern" tag and open it up to all forms and evolutions (yes, evolutions) of soul music. Then perhaps we'd have a growing "scene".

Just adding my view...........

John.

[Guest Russ Smith]

If you assume Northern Soul to be purely 60's - nothing. If you appreciate soul, no matter what the pigeon hole then everything. My collection, like a lot of others, has a very strong 60's core but ranges right through 70's, 80's and 90's up to stuff from last month.

In my opinion, far better to drop the "Northern" tag and open it up to all forms and evolutions (yes, evolutions) of soul music. Then perhaps we'd have a growing "scene".

Just adding my view...........

John.

John,

Ilove music, hence my dislike of thin 4/4 drum beat backing tracks..

A growing scene would encompass all kinds of black music which this one does not..unfortunately

Why just Soulful house, we need proper across the spectrum 10 room niters ( Funk, Sweet, Deep, Blues , Hip Hop, R&B, Reggae )

Just a thought....

Edited May 5, 2006 by Russ Smith

[Dave Rimmer]

In my opinion, far better to drop the "Northern" tag and open it up to all forms and evolutions (yes, evolutions) of soul music.

John.

I appreciate that you are entitled to your opinion, but why should we ?

And I'll ask the question again, what would the reaction be if in the middle of a night of Soulful House, I came on the decks and played an hour's Northern Oldies ? I bet I'd get through three records before you all started complaining, if that. So why do people assume that a Northern Soul crowd would want to hear Soulful House. I don't try and impose my 'reactionary, and non evolved music' on you, so don't try and impose your evolved music on me or anyone else.

[John Al]

John,

Ilove music, hence my dislike of thin 4/4 drum beat backing tracks..

A growing scene would encompass all kinds of black music which this one does not..unfortunately

Why just Soulful house, we need proper across the spectrum 10 room niters ( Funk, Sweet, Deep, Blues , Hip Hop, R&B, Reggae )

Just a thought....

Just noticed we live fairly close.......pm'd you.

[Guest ShaneH]

will someone please answer dave rimmer

why should the northern rooms embrace soulful house and not vice versa?

Shane

[Mark R]

so don't try and impose your evolved music on me or anyone else.

I don't Dave............as I've explained........I've perhaps expanded on the original post fella........my points are slightly different I think.

P.S. for anyone into the genre, listen to the new Kenny Bobien on Loveslap!...........in either of it's mixes..........phew!!! ..............https://www.juno.co.uk/ppps/products/217437-01.htm&highlight=loveslap

Cheers,

Mark R

[Guest Russ Smith]

I appreciate that you are entitled to your opinion, but why should we ?

And I'll ask the question again, what would the reaction be if in the middle of a night of Soulful House, I came on the decks and played an hour's Northern Oldies ? I bet I'd get through three records before you all started complaining, if that. So why do people assume that a Northern Soul crowd would want to hear Soulful House. I don't try and impose my 'reactionary, and non evolved music' on you, so don't try and impose your evolved music on me or anyone else.

To a word Dave, thanks !

[Russ Vickers]

I find this topic absolutely fascinating & before I go any further I want to make it quite clear that I am not preaching or being disrespectful to anybody. In fact some of the people who have posted comments that I personally disagree with on this subject I have the upmost respect for generally.

So here we go....................I have been on the NS scene for many years, I'm a punter foremost, but collect, DJ & promote on occasion, so I feel I have more than enough experience & knowledge to be able to comment on this subject.

Northern Soul is not a 'type' of music, it is a record or recording, that gains exceptance on the Northern Soul scene. It is made up of all kinds of genres of soul music including Jazz, RnB, Blues etc, also within the broad church of NS we also embrace records that have nothing to do with soul music, for example pop, country, rock, reggae etc the only thing that these records that gain exceptance on the scene have in common is that they have become popular on the scene, therefore 'we' class these records as NS.

As the scene has developed & expanded from the 6ts to present day, obviously recording techniques etc have changed, also many other genres have evolved within music since the 6ts & NS has borrowed records from some of these, thats why we have 7ts & 8ts played in the main room, also why we have more RnB being played than ever before & more funkier records are beginning to get the odd play too, this is all outside of the Modern rooms.

None of us enjoy every single record from every single decade from every single genre, but we pick & choose our venues & DJ & we dance to what we enjoy.

I will absolutely guarantee without a shadow of doubt that some soulful house will get played on the NS scene, in fact some venues did & do still play some, Abshott & Newbury Nighters did, Bretby did, Lea Manor did & there were & are others, this was enjoyed by the majority of people most of the time.

Nobody is advocating that we have a full scale Soulful House set in the main NS room, but what I am saying is, that we will do what the scene has always done & will continue to do & that is cherry pick the records that fit our scene, we may not all like it, but it will happen & IMO it will be good for the scene generally. NS will always be predominantly 6ts, that is what the scene is about, but we have always had music from other genres & decades too & it will continue.

I personally love most of the real Soulful House, but not all of it is right for the NS scene, the point Im making is whether we like it or not, sooner or later some will be played as it fits the criteria.

BTW altho she is too modest to admit it Lin Taylor has some of the best taste in Soul music I have ever known, her & Taits contribution to the scene & soul music in general has been fantastic & their son is a fine DJ too, thru promotions & DJING THESE WONDERFULLY SOULFUL PEOPLE CONTINUE TO BREAK SOULFUL GROUND & INSPIRE PEOPLE. Please show a little respect, these are genuinely nice people who love soul music.

OK thats my ten bobs worth...................let the slagging begin .

Russ

[Guest]

will someone please answer dave rimmer

why should the northern rooms embrace soulful house and not vice versa?

Shane

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[John Al]

I appreciate that you are entitled to your opinion, but why should we ?

And I'll ask the question again, what would the reaction be if in the middle of a night of Soulful House, I came on the decks and played an hour's Northern Oldies ? I bet I'd get through three records before you all started complaining, if that. So why do people assume that a Northern Soul crowd would want to hear Soulful House. I don't try and impose my 'reactionary, and non evolved music' on you, so don't try and impose your evolved music on me or anyone else.

Dave,

that seems a bit of a sensitive reply!

When you say "why should we", who exactly is "we"? I have been into "Northern" soul for over 30 years, since Wigan and was into mainstream soul before that. I have an extensive collection that, as I said, includes non 60's soul and have attended all major and local (to me) venues since 1975 so I think I can be included in this precious little "scene". I am the "Northern Soul crowd" and I am quite happy to hear soulful house.

I don't know what the reaction would be in the scenario you describe, if I were there I'd be delighted. The overall point is that the scene has to evolve to survive and there is plenty of good soulful house and garage out there. I remember being looked down on for buying new releases in the 70's, those records were Innersection, Benny Troy, Greg Perry and Alfie Davidson to name but a few. Meanwhile, some of my mates were dancing to Paula Parfitt, Muriel Day and Bobby Goldsboro.

I am not trying to impose anything at all on you and you shouldn't be so touchy about it. I was merely expressing a view and, for me, that view is right. As someone else said in an earlier posting, to each his own.

Don't take it so seriously Dave, it's music........enjoy.

John.

[Guest Matt Male]

Can anyone point me in the direction of an online radio station where i can hear Soulful House?

M.

[John Al]

I find this topic absolutely fascinating & before I go any further I want to make it quite clear that I am not preaching or being disrespectful to anybody. In fact some of the people who have posted comments that I personally disagree with on this subject I have the upmost respect for generally.

So here we go....................I have been on the NS scene for many years, I'm a punter foremost, but collect, DJ & promote on occasion, so I feel I have more than enough experience & knowledge to be able to comment on this subject.

Northern Soul is not a 'type' of music, it is a record or recording, that gains exceptance on the Northern Soul scene. It is made up of all kinds of genres of soul music including Jazz, RnB, Blues etc, also within the broad church of NS we also embrace records that have nothing to do with soul music, for example pop, country, rock, reggae etc the only thing that these records that gain exceptance on the scene have in common is that they have become popular on the scene, therefore 'we' class these records as NS.

As the scene has developed & expanded from the 6ts to present day, obviously recording techniques etc have changed, also many other genres have evolved within music since the 6ts & NS has borrowed records from some of these, thats why we have 7ts & 8ts played in the main room, also why we have more RnB being played than ever before & more funkier records are beginning to get the odd play too, this is all outside of the Modern rooms.

None of us enjoy every single record from every single decade from every single genre, but we pick & choose our venues & DJ & we dance to what we enjoy.

I will absolutely guarantee without a shadow of doubt that some soulful house will get played on the NS scene, in fact some venues did & do still play some, Abshott & Newbury Nighters did, Bretby did, Lea Manor did & there were & are others, this was enjoyed by the majority of people most of the time.

Nobody is advocating that we have a full scale Soulful House set in the main NS room, but what I am saying is, that we will do what the scene has always done & will continue to do & that is cherry pick the records that fit our scene, we may not all like it, but it will happen & IMO it will be good for the scene generally. NS will always be predominantly 6ts, that is what the scene is about, but we have always had music from other genres & decades too & it will continue.

I personally love most of the real Soulful House, but not all of it is right for the NS scene, the point Im making is whether we like it or not, sooner or later some will be played as it fits the criteria.

BTW altho she is too modest to admit it Lin Taylor has some of the best taste in Soul music I have ever known, her & Taits contribution to the scene & soul music in general has been fantastic & their son is a fine DJ too, thru promotions & DJING THESE WONDERFULLY SOULFUL PEOPLE CONTINUE TO BREAK SOULFUL GROUND & INSPIRE PEOPLE. Please show a little respect, these are genuinely nice people who love soul music.

OK thats my ten bobs worth...................let the slagging begin .

Russ

Spot on Russ, well said.

John.

[Guest]

Can anyone point me in the direction of an online radio station where i can hear Soulful House?

M.

And you would find? probbably not the 1 in 5000 records that would be applicable to your scene

dosnt make sense does it? it would be like saying where can i hear northern soul

that would fit a light house set and pointing to someone to a radio station playing

timi yuro .. good record .. wouldnt fit

[Guest Russ Smith]

Nicole Willis, Sharon Jones what about new release Soul anybody ?

Edited May 5, 2006 by Russ Smith

[Guest Dodger]

Can anyone point me in the direction of an online radio station where i can hear Soulful House?

M.

Listen to Paul Phillips on Solar Radio on the weekends - I think his show goes out at 10pm on Saturdays and Sundays. There's fewer consistent quality DJ's for finding and playing the better examples than Paul. He mixes his show up with new and old soul as well. A top bloke.

Roger

[Dave Rimmer]

As someone else said in an earlier posting, to each his own.

Don't take it so seriously Dave, it's music........enjoy.

John.

As long as it's in their own room

[Mark R]

Can anyone point me in the direction of an online radio station where i can hear Soulful House?

M.

Matt................look no further than tomorrow night...............www.solarradio.com........10pm-midnight. Paul Phillips plays the creme of this genre IMVHO!!

Cheers mate,

Mark

[Guest Dodger]

Nicole Willis, Sharon Jones what abot new release Soul ?

What was originally posted here was doubt the daftest posting I've read on here for a long time (but I've edited my response seeing as Russ thought better of it and deleted it).

Nicole Willis and Sharon Jones? Don't you really mean to say . . . "I like new releases as long as they sound were made in the 60s and 70s"?

Edited May 5, 2006 by Dodger

[John Al]

Nicole Willis, Sharon Jones what about new release Soul anybody ?

Yep, very nice, just bought NW album, wonder how long before its a mega in demand hard to get rare sound .

......and just to complete my other post, I stopped calling it "Northen Soul" years ago. It's either soul or rare soul. Let's get back to the real and original title huh?

John.

[Guest soul4life]

hav to bagree with the guys.. paul phillips is the guy droppin the quality vibes..the added bonus is paul is doin his live feeds from the SOUTHPORT WEEKENDER.. check his website..paul@soulful grooves for show times from the gig..on solar

regards terry

[Mark R]

Without doubt the daftest posting I've read on here for a long time.

I was about to say the same Dodge, but for some reason couln't get that statement up in quotes!!

What I was actually going to say was................I try to be a diplomat, me.................but on this occassion I can't be...............that statement is simply ridiculous!!!

Cheers,

Mark R

[Mark R]

Its the " H" word thats the issue here .

And I totally agree Russ...............just like it's the "N" word that's the issue with NS.............as some of the guys have already stated, NS has become the name for a sound/lifestyle, and as long as folk realise that, then fine.

Hell, there was a thread not long back about the merits of Willie Mitchells "Champion".............if that's more to do with soul than that new Kenny Bobien platter on Loveslap! then I'll eat me slip mats!!

Cheers,

Mark R

[Guest Russ Smith]

Thank the lord, I thought you were taking me seriously !

[Guest]

And I totally agree Russ...............just like it's the "N" word that's the issue with NS.............as some of the guys have already stated, NS has become the name for a sound/lifestyle, and as long as folk realise that, then fine.

Hell, there was a thread not long back about the merits of Willie Mitchells "Champion".............if that's more to do with soul than that new Kenny Bobien platter on Loveslap! then I'll eat me slip mats!!

Cheers,

Mark R

No mark cant agree with that . insts on the N scene that one was the biggest

it was contemporary 60s R&B same as when people played

bambu the real thing or star suite mondo grosso in rooms of a different flavour

there was nothing wrong with that either

[Guest Matt Male]

And you would find? probbably not the 1 in 5000 records that would be applicable to your scene

dosnt make sense does it? it would be like saying where can i hear northern soul

that would fit a light house set and pointing to someone to a radio station playing

timi yuro .. good record .. wouldnt fit

Thanks for the helpful reply... you're right, your post doesn't make sense.

Edited May 5, 2006 by Matt Male