Guest modernlass Posted May 4, 2006 Share Posted May 4, 2006 As someone who has been into northern soul for many years and then progressed onto modern soul and now soulful house. Can someone please please tell me why u soulful boys and girls think that there is no place for soulful house. Have any of u listened to this music and if u have u will find like I have that u will get no better lyrics or those feelings we have all felt on the back of our necks. Come on we need to move forward and unite and accept that soulful house has the right to b played at our venues. I can remember when I used to go to Queens Hall Bradford and we were slated downstairs for listening to rave music - and guess what it was'nt rave it was modern soul, which some of our DJs are playing now. Come on u djs and dancers give it a go and u might b pleasently surprised - we have to move forward and get more young people involved in our scene if not surely one day we will all be sitting round with our zimmer frames waiting for the bus to collect us..... A very frustrated soulie waiting for the perfect night were we are given the right to listen to pure soul music at its best...... Link to comment Social source share More sharing options...
Guest Stuart T Posted May 4, 2006 Share Posted May 4, 2006 I can't stand this stuff, I used to share a flat with someone who dabbled in so called soulful house, half of what I've heard has singers who can't even sing and the most tedious and unimaginitive backing tracks I've ever heard. I really can't see the connection between soulful house and the soul music that I like and I wouldn't even go to a club that played this stuff in any quantity. Its even worse than that popcorn stuff. I'll have to be careful or I might say something rude about it. Link to comment Social source share More sharing options...
Guest Baz Posted May 4, 2006 Share Posted May 4, 2006 I like soulful house, however if i wanted to hear it in a NS venue i would go to a club to hear it, doesn't fit IMO, and would rather it stayed that way Stuart have a listen too these two see what you think, the vocals are very soulful im going to use the D word again, but it is disco for the 21st cent Louis_Benedetti_feat_David_Ruffin_Jnr__Show_You_My_Love.mp3 Link to comment Social source share More sharing options...
Guest Stuart T Posted May 4, 2006 Share Posted May 4, 2006 Thanks for putting those up, unfortunately can't play them (as opposed to won't play them). Computer says no. Maybe things have improved with this music? I find rocksteady and early reggae more soulful than what I have heard of this genre. Should that be played at northern nights? I'd be tempted to give Foo Manchu by Desmond Dekker a spin. Link to comment Social source share More sharing options...
Guest Baz Posted May 4, 2006 Share Posted May 4, 2006 And this one .................... Georgie_Porgie__Love_Will_Save_the_Day__Original_Mix_.mp3 Link to comment Social source share More sharing options...
Petebangor Posted May 4, 2006 Share Posted May 4, 2006 I can't stand this stuff, I used to share a flat with someone who dabbled in so called soulful house, half of what I've heard has singers who can't even sing and the most tedious and unimaginitive backing tracks I've ever heard. I really can't see the connection between soulful house and the soul music that I like and I wouldn't even go to a club that played this stuff in any quantity. Its even worse than that popcorn stuff. I'll have to be careful or I might say something rude about it. I think the above posting show's why there is little Soulful House played on the Northern scene. 'Half the singers can't even sing' I laughed so much I nearly Weed my pants Link to comment Social source share More sharing options...
Cunnie Posted May 4, 2006 Share Posted May 4, 2006 modernlass said: As someone who has been into northern soul for many years and then progressed onto modern soul and now soulful house. Can someone please please tell me why u soulful boys and girls think that there is no place for soulful house. Have any of u listened to this music and if u have u will find like I have that u will get no better lyrics or those feelings we have all felt on the back of our necks. Come on we need to move forward and unite and accept that soulful house has the right to b played at our venues. I can remember when I used to go to Queens Hall Bradford and we were slated downstairs for listening to rave music - and guess what it was'nt rave it was modern soul, which some of our DJs are playing now. Come on u djs and dancers give it a go and u might b pleasently surprised - we have to move forward and get more young people involved in our scene if not surely one day we will all be sitting round with our zimmer frames waiting for the bus to collect us..... A very frustrated soulie waiting for the perfect night were we are given the right to listen to pure soul music at its best...... Top quality 1st post Modernlass Pretty much followed the same road as you musically. Got into Northern in the mid to late 70s, loved it at the time & still do. Then came the modern breakthrough in about 1980 via tracks like King Tutt, Larry Brown, ZZ & Co (all big Northern tracks now) & always went to venues that played both if possible. Soulful House just seemed the natural progression for me musically. Good quality up-tempo danceable soul music. Don't get me wrong, still love the northern & late 70s/early 80s stuff but for me Soulful House is just the missing peice of the jig-saw for me at the moment. Had some great times spinning Soulful House at the Bretby Nighters a few years ago when Terry Gee ran the modern room & it was suprising how many folks came in from the Northern room & had a great time. Probably going to get all the usual "Disco Shite" quotes from the same old faces for this post even though i don't go slagging stuff off that they like but what the hell, each to there own i guess. Heard this played a few times in northern rooms recently & always to a good dance floor response, Originally done by Ultra High Frequency on Wand. Deep Sensation - Soul Heaven... Link to comment Social source share More sharing options...
Cunnie Posted May 4, 2006 Share Posted May 4, 2006 A Bretby Monster. Faith - Dr Gary Henry. Enjoy. Link to comment Social source share More sharing options...
Winnie :-) Posted May 4, 2006 Share Posted May 4, 2006 CUNNIE said: A Bretby Monster. Faith - Dr Gary Henry. Enjoy. ============= A mate of mine did me a tape of soulful house (as I kept slagging it off) and I really quite liked it. What I found out was the stuff I was slagging wasn't soulful house at all. Complete misconception on my part. Don't see the guy any more, but if it was played in the northern rooms (maybe an hour to start) don't think I'd turn my nose up. If it would bring in an younger element who might also like traditional sounding northern don't think that could be a bad thing. Winnie:-) PS. Maybe this subject could be moved to all about soul, might get some more comments? Just a suggestion Link to comment Social source share More sharing options...
Guest Matt Male Posted May 4, 2006 Share Posted May 4, 2006 Heard this played a few times in northern rooms recently & always to a good dance floor response, Originally done by Ultra High Frequency on Wand. Deep Sensation - Soul Heaven... Very nice I like it, but my only complaint is they all seem to have the same backing track, not much variation. Link to comment Social source share More sharing options...
Mak Posted May 5, 2006 Share Posted May 5, 2006 My house is very soulful, theres records all over the place Link to comment Social source share More sharing options...
Guest Dan Posted May 5, 2006 Share Posted May 5, 2006 i love the stuff i've heard, but then i like disco too, big time (though essentially a 60s fan). re northern events, though, would have to be a two roomer. there's enough aggro between 60s 'newies' (ie less-old oldies) and oldies fans as it is. i always remember jon buck playing footsteps by womack and womack one night at peterborough in about 1989 and the floor stayed solidly full and that was then a new release and in the charts. but back then the, er, energy levels were a lot higher. Link to comment Social source share More sharing options...
Guest Stuart T Posted May 5, 2006 Share Posted May 5, 2006 I think the above posting show's why there is little Soulful House played on the Northern scene. 'Half the singers can't even sing' I laughed so much I nearly Weed my pants Maybe I went a bit far, but isn't soulful house the stuff with all those women screaching through their noses because they can't control their vocal chords properly (old blues singers trick)? I don't mean RnB although that lot do a lot of that as well. Really get on my proverbial wotsits. I'll also confess that I liked a few tracks when I'd drunk a bit but wouldn't want to be in a club listening to this, trendy bars near work play it already. Loudly. The sort of places that only sell bottled beer and the bar staff look at me funny when I ask for a glass. Link to comment Social source share More sharing options...
Guest soulgirlie Posted May 5, 2006 Share Posted May 5, 2006 , but isn't soulful house the stuff with all those women screaching through their noses because they can't control their vocal chords properly (old blues singers trick)? errr that'll be a no Have you ever listened to Susu Bobien ,Michelle Weeks, Kim English ,Dawn Tallman, Barbara Tucker ,Sabrynaah Pope, Ann Nesby , Jocelyn Brown ???..to name a few ...they are true Divas ...I havent heard one of them ever screach through their nose ..I'd search out some of their tracks and give them a listen maybe . Lin www.soul-underground.co.uk Link to comment Social source share More sharing options...
sister dawn Posted May 5, 2006 Share Posted May 5, 2006 i love the stuff i've heard, but then i like disco too, big time (though essentially a 60s fan). re northern events, though, would have to be a two roomer. there's enough aggro between 60s 'newies' (ie less-old oldies) and oldies fans as it is. i always remember jon buck playing footsteps by womack and womack one night at peterborough in about 1989 and the floor stayed solidly full and that was then a new release and in the charts. but back then the, er, energy levels were a lot higher. Don't know bout a 2nd room Dan, I reckon its time to open up Caistor weekender again Some great groovin' tunes posted, have to agree but it needs its own environment to have the proper full on effect it deserves..... now got to go to the wardrobe to find me shiney funk belt, me dads old shirt, leg warmers and of course me whistle, Caistor here we come Link to comment Social source share More sharing options...
Guest Stuart T Posted May 5, 2006 Share Posted May 5, 2006 errr that'll be a no Have you ever listened to Susu Bobien ,Michelle Weeks, Kim English ,Dawn Tallman, Barbara Tucker ,Sabrynaah Pope, Ann Nesby , Jocelyn Brown ???..to name a few ...they are true Divas ...I havent heard one of them ever screach through their nose ..I'd search out some of their tracks and give them a listen maybe . Lin www.soul-underground.co.uk Sorry I bored you by daring not to think much of these "divas". At least two of those are definitely guilty. I think I have better things to do than to waste time searching out their tracks to give them a serious listen anyway, so much music that I know I like already to listen to, so little time to do so. Link to comment Social source share More sharing options...
Guest soulgirlie Posted May 5, 2006 Share Posted May 5, 2006 Sorry I bored you by daring not to think much of these "divas". You didnt bore me at all ,it was just the usual generalising and negativity that this genre of music seems to generate whenever it gets a mention. At least two of those are definitely guilty. I think I have better things to do than to waste time searching out their tracks to give them a serious listen anyway, so much music that I know I like already to listen to, so little time to do so. I'm sure you have better things to do , far be it from me to encourage you to open your mind a little ...you're the one missing out .(.lighten up mate the suns shining ) have a nice day . Lin www.soul-underground.co.uk Link to comment Social source share More sharing options...
Guest Dodger Posted May 5, 2006 Share Posted May 5, 2006 I think the problem with this genre being accepted on the soul scene is down the some of the DJ's who play it through them not being discerning enough to understand what's actually a good soul tune and what is seemingly endless banging mediocrity. If any DJ is going to try and play this on the soul scene then imo they need to have the ability to break up and vary the pace of their sets and understand the crowd they're playing to, which might seem like an obvious statement to make but I personally haven't seen that many who have this ability when playing this kind of music at soul venues. Link to comment Social source share More sharing options...
paultp Posted May 5, 2006 Share Posted May 5, 2006 Very nice I like it, but my only complaint is they all seem to have the same backing track, not much variation. Exactly what I was about to say, most of the tracks (especially Faith) had great vocals but the synthed drum beat just does my head in. I think someone played a set of this at a do in Bournemouth I was DJing at and I had to go and sit outside after about four tunes. I once rented an office in Borough (SE1 London not Middles) which turned out to have a studio in the basement where the guys there were trying to put together the next big thing. Very strange set up, they looked like builders/villains but most days they had various spottys turning up who were obviously DJ's on whatever scene they were attempting to crack. They put together all the tracks using computers and synths then played snippets to the spottys who just looked bored. I showed some interest and wanted to know what scene they were involved in (all drum to me) but as most days I had my pin-strpe whistle on they just ignored me. They expanded from the sound proofed cellar into a couple of other rooms and within three months the occupants of all the other offices (including me) left because of the noise. Synthed drumbeats all day. And they kept "borrowing" my swish leather meeting table chairs. My theory of them being builders/villains gained some credibility when they got broken into and had a load of kit nicked from their rooms, they knew the perpetrators would come back for the rest so they laid in wait for them overnight with iron bars. Quite messy by the front door the next day. I was always on time with my rent. Anyway, I'm rammbling now and have moved from topic to anecdote so I'll just finish this here. Link to comment Social source share More sharing options...
Guest Andy BB Posted May 5, 2006 Share Posted May 5, 2006 Have you asked the Soulful House promoters why they don't play an hour of Northern Soul at their events? I'm a big fan of the Style Council and I am disgusted that I have never heard a Style Council record played at a Northern Soul allnighter. Or Greenday come to think of it.... Actually, I once played at a party for my mate (who is a House DJ and record producer) and the crowd there loved the soul stuff so it might just work.... Naah. Link to comment Social source share More sharing options...
Guest Stuart T Posted May 5, 2006 Share Posted May 5, 2006 I'm sure you have better things to do , far be it from me to encourage you to open your mind a little ...you're the one missing out .(.lighten up mate the suns shining ) have a nice day . www.soul-underground.co.uk Oh no, an "open up your mind post", thats me told. Is there any other music that I should also like which is similarly above criticism? The bloke from Green Day can't sing either, maybe I ought to get into that? Link to comment Social source share More sharing options...
Guest soulgirlie Posted May 5, 2006 Share Posted May 5, 2006 (edited) As someone who has been into northern soul for many years and then progressed onto modern soul and now soulful house. Can someone please please tell me why u soulful boys and girls think that there is no place for soulful house. Have any of u listened to this music and if u have u will find like I have that u will get no better lyrics or those feelings we have all felt on the back of our necks. Come on we need to move forward and unite and accept that soulful house has the right to b played at our venues. I can remember when I used to go to Queens Hall Bradford and we were slated downstairs for listening to rave music - and guess what it was'nt rave it was modern soul, which some of our DJs are playing now. Come on u djs and dancers give it a go and u might b pleasently surprised - we have to move forward and get more young people involved in our scene if not surely one day we will all be sitting round with our zimmer frames waiting for the bus to collect us..... A very frustrated soulie waiting for the perfect night were we are given the right to listen to pure soul music at its best...... Hi enjoyed your post , really positive and you talk a great deal of sense ..shame the responses were so negative but then maybe this is the wrong forum . House music is todays contemporary soul music , the best vocalists and some of the finest production you will hear . This weekend will see five thousand people ..(two thousand of those in The Powerhouse - which is the house room ) at the UK 's biggest Black Music Weekender bearing testamony to that for sure . Lin Edited May 5, 2006 by soulgirlie Link to comment Social source share More sharing options...
Guest Stuart T Posted May 5, 2006 Share Posted May 5, 2006 Hi enjoyed your post , really positive and you talk a great deal of sense ..shame the responses were so negative but then maybe this is the wrong forum . House music is todays contemporary soul music , the best vocalists and some of the finest production you will hear . This weekend will see five thousand people ..(two thousand of those in The Powerhouse - which is the house room ) at the UK 's biggest Black Music Weekender bearing testamony to that for sure . Lin A prime example of people who are into soulful house going to a soulful house event to listen to soulful house. Good for them. Link to comment Social source share More sharing options...
Guest Dodger Posted May 5, 2006 Share Posted May 5, 2006 House music is todays contemporary soul music Have you morphed into Billy Davidson? Link to comment Social source share More sharing options...
Guest soulgirlie Posted May 5, 2006 Share Posted May 5, 2006 A prime example of people who are into soulful house going to a soulful house event to listen to soulful house. Good for them. People who go there actually love black music in all its forms ..Jazz, Gospel , Funk , R&B , Classic Soul and not just soulful house ... have I seen you recently on "grumpy old men " ??? Link to comment Social source share More sharing options...
Guest Stuart T Posted May 5, 2006 Share Posted May 5, 2006 People who go there actually love black music in all its forms ..Jazz, Gospel , Funk , R&B , Classic Soul and not just soulful house ... have I seen you recently on "grumpy old men " ??? No, I doubt it, I'm much too young. Do they play much northern then? I still disagree with what appears to be your basic premise that we should all like soulful house, turn northern soul events into soulful house events so that we can get younger people along. Perhaps we could put on soulful house events for young people to go to, and wear ear plugs? It clearly is a bad influence on people and encourages them to write in "textspeak" as well. Link to comment Social source share More sharing options...
Mark R Posted May 5, 2006 Share Posted May 5, 2006 Well, where do you start................I'm gonna keep it short or I'll be typing all day.............if you don't think that the quality end of the soulful dance spectrum isn't an evolution of the soul of the past then you are listening to the wrong records!! As someone I know and respect pointed out on a different forum recently, the music many of you guys are possibly using as a benchmark (perhaps what you hear when going thru town on Saturday night??) means as much to the likes of Louie Vega and Blaze as it does to you...............i.e. nothing!! As for it all sounding the same..............do me a favour...............so the typical backing on Motown tracks didn't have the same formularic sound???..............yeah, right...........and get over this "comes from a computer" thing.........times have changed.............people can't employ a 30 piece orchestra these days.............when the electronic thing's done right, you'll know! If you're not on the dance floor, listen beyond that beat anyway, and I'm sure some of you will "feel it". In terms of it's relevance to the Northern Scene...........well, I'm not gonna try and tell anybody they should like the music.............I do, and that's good enough for me................but, the music aside, just ponder this: - up-tempo danceable underground music form NY, Chicago, West Coast etc, etc. - occasionally sounding raw and under-produced - tiny independant labels - limited pressing runs (even the most popular stuff is relatively scarce when considering a world audience) - W/L promo's etc, etc . . . ..............sound familiar??? As I say......I'm not telling anyone they should like it, but don't deny it's place in the evolution of soulful black music, because that relly is doing it an in-justice. And all this is from someone with his roots in the NS scene who can still appreciate the music he started out on! Respect to all, Mark R Link to comment Social source share More sharing options...
Guest soulgirlie Posted May 5, 2006 Share Posted May 5, 2006 No, I doubt it, I'm much too young. Do they play much northern then? Yes , it gets played in the Connoisseurs Corner, Richard ,Andy ,Terry etc play in there and the youngsters love and embrace it especially on the Saturday afternoon sessions., I still disagree with what appears to be your basic premise that we should all like soulful house, turn northern soul events into soulful house events so that we can get younger people along. Perhaps we could put on soulful house events for young people to go to, and wear ear plugs? It clearly is a bad influence on people and encourages them to write in "textspeak" as well. and where exactly did I say ANY of that ??? Link to comment Social source share More sharing options...
Guest Stuart T Posted May 5, 2006 Share Posted May 5, 2006 and where exactly did I say ANY of that ??? Here: "Come on we need to move forward and unite and accept that soulful house has the right to b played at our venues. " And here: " we have to move forward and get more young people involved in our scene if not surely one day we will all be sitting round with our zimmer frames waiting for the bus to collect us....." Basically you seem to be saying that this other form of music should be played at northern soul venues in order to get young people in who are into this other form of music. Which I don't follow at all. - up-tempo danceable underground music form NY, Chicago, West Coast etc, etc. - occasionally sounding raw and under-produced - tiny independant labels - limited pressing runs (even the most popular stuff is relatively scarce when considering a world audience) - W/L promo's etc, etc . . . ..............sound familiar??? No, it sounds like soulful house to me Link to comment Social source share More sharing options...
Guest soulgirlie Posted May 5, 2006 Share Posted May 5, 2006 Here: "Come on we need to move forward and unite and accept that soulful house has the right to b played at our venues. " And here: " we have to move forward and get more young people involved in our scene if not surely one day we will all be sitting round with our zimmer frames waiting for the bus to collect us....." Basically you seem to be saying that this other form of music should be played at northern soul venues in order to get young people in who are into this other form of music. Which I don't follow at all. Link to comment Social source share More sharing options...
Guest Andy BB Posted May 5, 2006 Share Posted May 5, 2006 Just because we don't like House music doesn't mean we are the close-minded Soul section of the Sealed Knot historical Recreation Society you know. Some House music is undoubtedly very good (I like Joe Smooth if that counts, that's about it though) - but do you go onto the British Ornithology forums and berate the bird-watchers for watching birds all day instead of listening to Jazztronic's latest Rodney P and the Real People remix? It's got the same relevance. It's black music, fair enough, it was released later than the majority of the Northern Soul stuff, fair enough, but that doesn't mean there's an automatic link. Well, no more than you can trace a path from Baby Ester to Lovebug Starski - and I don't fancy hearing Amityville-House on the Hill at a weekender any time soon. Do you think lovers of Franz Ferdinand steam into Jethro Tull fans for not progressing with along the white music path? Enjoy your weekender. Ave it large! Link to comment Social source share More sharing options...
Jordirip Posted May 5, 2006 Share Posted May 5, 2006 I think the problem with this genre being accepted on the soul scene is down the some of the DJ's who play it through them not being discerning enough to understand what's actually a good soul tune and what is seemingly endless banging mediocrity. Agree Roger, and it might help if the first five minutes and the last five minutes of the records were mixed out thus leaving the essence of the song, and lessening the overblown, overlong studio knob twiddling. You'd think they were made for people on drugs or something. Get the tunes in and out and cut in with other genres and styles and they would sound less 'samey' and have more impact. IMO. Jordi Link to comment Social source share More sharing options...
Mike Posted May 5, 2006 Share Posted May 5, 2006 dunno if missing something with this being posted in freebasing, but if no violent objections will move it to the main "about " forum next time pass by Link to comment Social source share More sharing options...
Guest Baz Posted May 5, 2006 Share Posted May 5, 2006 dunno if missing something with this being posted in freebasing, but if no violent objections will move it to the main "about " forum next time pass by Violent objections like move it and i'll pound your head with a bat best place 'uptop' IMO Will stick a few more sound files up tonight of some good soulful house...................still dont want it in our northern rooms thou Link to comment Social source share More sharing options...
Guest Stuart T Posted May 5, 2006 Share Posted May 5, 2006 Oh dear , you are totally wrong yet again I'm afraid , all of the above quotes you used were from the nice lady who started this thread, and none of them were from me at all . You're not doing very well are you Wrong once I think you'll find, not that I care much, you lot all sound the same to me. I think I'm doing very well in pointing out that I see no reason to stop playing northern soul at clubs and replace it with music that isn't northern soul for no good reason (I guess we'll all be in a retro comedy theme ghetto called Connoisseur's Corner will we?). I think I'm beginning to develop some kind of pathological dislike and deep suspicion of soulful house now. Link to comment Social source share More sharing options...
Guest ShaneH Posted May 5, 2006 Share Posted May 5, 2006 why would you want soulful house played at northern events anyway? you already have it played at the vast majority of trendy bars in towns & cities. you lot into that sort of music have never had it so good. us northern fans have to drive 50 miles plus to 'bleak' towns in northern england. you lot just get in a taxi and tell the driver to drop you off at any bar that doesnt look like a pub but serves booze i like soulful house btw but not at northern events please. when i go to the italian restaurant in town the last thing i want is king prawn dopiaza! Shane Link to comment Social source share More sharing options...
Guest soulgirlie Posted May 5, 2006 Share Posted May 5, 2006 (edited) Oh dear , you are totally wrong yet again I'm afraid , all of the above quotes you used were from the nice lady who started this thread, and none of them were from me at all . You're not doing very well are you Wrong once I think you'll find, not that I care much, you lot all sound the same to me. I think I'm doing very well in pointing out that I see no reason to stop playing northern soul at clubs and replace it with music that isn't northern soul for no good reason (I guess we'll all be in a retro comedy theme ghetto called Connoisseur's Corner will we?). I think I'm beginning to develop some kind of pathological dislike and deep suspicion of soulful house now. Like I said you're not doing very well , you misquoted but obviously have a problem admitting that you did. never mind. I've been on this forum for quite a long time ,my roots are steeped in Northern so I still have more than a passing interest .I dont really post very much unless a subject is of particular interest to me which I found this one to be as nowadays I run a venue that plays all kinds of black soul music and associated genres including soulful house ,all in one room. Its a discussion forum and as such we are all entitled to our opinions which is what makes things interesting. I havent been rude or disrespectful or slagged anyone off so I dont really understand why you are getting so defensive .It serves as a reminder to me not to get into healthy debate on here, enjoy your northern soul and I'll enjoy my soul music ..live and let live thats all that matters really . Lin Edited May 5, 2006 by soulgirlie Link to comment Social source share More sharing options...
Guest Stuart T Posted May 5, 2006 Share Posted May 5, 2006 Like I said you're not doing very well , you misquoted but obviously have a problem admitting that you did. never mind. Erm, I think I admitted I'd got the source of the quote (rather than misquoting as such) wrong in the post above, maybe you missed the subtlety. Never mind, eh? Its a discussion forum and as such we are all entitled to our opinions which is what makes things interesting. I havent been rude or disrespectful or slagged anyone off so I dont realluy understand why you are getting so defensive .It serves as a reminder to me not to get into healthy debate on here, enjoy your northern soul and I'll enjoy my soul music ..live and let live thats all that matters really . Not aware that I'm being defensive because I dare to not think playing soulful house in clubs which have nothing to do with soulful house is a good idea. Maybe you're one of those people that doesn't like a debate if the other people in the debate don't agree with you, but I'm happily putting you on ignore as you sound a bit stroppy and humourless to me, which is no fun whatsoever. Never done that to anyone before. Goodbye. Link to comment Social source share More sharing options...
Guest realsoulfan Posted May 5, 2006 Share Posted May 5, 2006 As someone who has been into northern soul for many years and then progressed onto modern soul and now soulful house. Can someone please please tell me why u soulful boys and girls think that there is no place for soulful house. Have any of u listened to this music and if u have u will find like I have that u will get no better lyrics or those feelings we have all felt on the back of our necks. Come on we need to move forward and unite and accept that soulful house has the right to b played at our venues. I can remember when I used to go to Queens Hall Bradford and we were slated downstairs for listening to rave music - and guess what it was'nt rave it was modern soul, which some of our DJs are playing now. Come on u djs and dancers give it a go and u might b pleasently surprised - we have to move forward and get more young people involved in our scene if not surely one day we will all be sitting round with our zimmer frames waiting for the bus to collect us..... A very frustrated soulie waiting for the perfect night were we are given the right to listen to pure soul music at its best...... I think that due to soul music being fragmented into all kind of different genres it gives some people the amunition to take an instant dislike to certain genres without actualy listening to it. There are many people on the soul scene who enjoy all forms of soul music if they're being honest, otherwise new sounds would not be played to old soul crowd and get dance floor response. As for hearing some of this great music ( whether old or new ) in pubs clubs etc why can't some people take that as a compliment that some of this great music is reaching a wider audience therefore keep this scene running for years to come, As the saying goes variety is the spice of life Link to comment Social source share More sharing options...
Mark R Posted May 5, 2006 Share Posted May 5, 2006 I think that due to soul music being fragmented into all kind of different genres it gives some people the amunition to take an instant dislike to certain genres without actualy listening to it. Link to comment Social source share More sharing options...
Guest Stuart T Posted May 5, 2006 Share Posted May 5, 2006 I think that due to soul music being fragmented into all kind of different genres it gives some people the amunition to take an instant dislike to certain genres without actualy listening to it. There are many people on the soul scene who enjoy all forms of soul music if they're being honest, otherwise new sounds would not be played to old soul crowd and get dance floor response. I think thats right, but much the same as I like 50s RnB or deep soul I can't see why music of either genre should get played in northern soul clubs, let alone house music from 2006, soulful or otherwise (I'm frustrated not to be able to listen to the tracks posted above). Link to comment Social source share More sharing options...
Dave Rimmer Posted May 5, 2006 Share Posted May 5, 2006 All that's missing is a question mark from the title of this thread..... Soulful House Why ? Link to comment Social source share More sharing options...
Guest realsoulfan Posted May 5, 2006 Share Posted May 5, 2006 All that's missing is a question mark from the title of this thread..... Soulful House Why ? It will be accepted at some point as history has proven in the past this is not new to the soul crowd I remember people calling some records disco (silvetti brainstorm skip mahoney king tutt high frequency just to name a few) It just takes them a little longer to get their heads around it Link to comment Social source share More sharing options...
Guest soulgirlie Posted May 5, 2006 Share Posted May 5, 2006 All that's missing is a question mark from the title of this thread..... Soulful House Why ? Link to comment Social source share More sharing options...
Guest Baz Posted May 5, 2006 Share Posted May 5, 2006 It will be accepted at some point as history has proven in the past this is not new to the soul crowd I remember people calling some records disco (silvetti brainstorm skip mahoney king tutt high frequency just to name a few) It just takes them a little longer to get their heads around it Link to comment Social source share More sharing options...
Dave Rimmer Posted May 5, 2006 Share Posted May 5, 2006 Don't you dare start as well Mr Rimmer..apparently I'm humourless and stroppy so don't be messin' with me Lin x Heh heh heh ! Thought I'd done well staying out of it so far. Link to comment Social source share More sharing options...
Guest soulgirlie Posted May 5, 2006 Share Posted May 5, 2006 Heh heh heh ! Thought I'd done well staying out of it so far. I'm going back to lurkdom Dave,they don't understand me around here Lin x Link to comment Social source share More sharing options...
Guest geoffwa3 Posted May 5, 2006 Share Posted May 5, 2006 Class!! Fabulous expected responses - ignorance is bliss! How dare a minority of us evolve over the past 20-30 years and now actually like disco music, screeched nasally by bad singers? Fcuk..., just realised, I've never really been into soul music if that's the case. Always knew Lin Taylor was a fake!! Keep the faith guys. Anyway I'm off in a taxi to my local club avin' it large with all my new mates. Link to comment Social source share More sharing options...
Guest soulgirlie Posted May 5, 2006 Share Posted May 5, 2006 (edited) "Fake".. Alexander O'Neal ...soul or house version Edited May 5, 2006 by soulgirlie Link to comment Social source share More sharing options...
Guest Stuart T Posted May 5, 2006 Share Posted May 5, 2006 Class!! Fabulous expected responses - ignorance is bliss! How dare a minority of us evolve over the past 20-30 years and now actually like disco music, screeched nasally by bad singers? Don't think anyone said that, wasn't the debate about having this music in northern soul main rooms? You can like whatever you want, just keep it in the right place, think that has been the argument. I go to jazz clubs for jazz, ska clubs for ska etc and you may feel superior and pompously declare that you have evolved because you like this music but at the end of the day its as irrelevant to northern soul as Andy BB's Des O'Connor fetish. Have a nice weekend everyone. PS Is Lin Taylor really a pseudonym for Dave Rimmer? Thats what I was told. Link to comment Social source share More sharing options...
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