Guest stu g Posted February 9, 2013 Posted February 9, 2013 (edited) Just a general question on the above ! Whats the going rate for this . Edited February 11, 2013 by stu g
Dean Posted February 10, 2013 Posted February 10, 2013 Book price which reflects Ex condition is £250 / £200 for issue / dj Would think with some patience tou could do £100 - £150 depending upon condition you want. Never sure how scarce or just tucked away. There used to be plenty about in cheap boxes whilst everyone wanted Dearly Beloved / Do You Believe It
Guest stu g Posted February 10, 2013 Posted February 10, 2013 (edited) Cheerz Edited February 10, 2013 by stu g
Guest stu g Posted February 10, 2013 Posted February 10, 2013 Cheers dean for the info ' il sit and wait for the later cheers Stu
Prophonics 2029 Posted February 10, 2013 Posted February 10, 2013 Think I got a copy for £25 sold it for £75 vg++ after about 5 years of having it.
Guest Andy Kempster Posted February 10, 2013 Posted February 10, 2013 think you would be extremely fortunate to pick up a clean copy at that these days. you need to be erring on the side of £200 at least
Guest turntableterra Posted February 11, 2013 Posted February 11, 2013 real name marvin jones, took the name montgomery off don montgomery............ it sounded cool. if memory serves he wrote under his own name with don mancha, certainly on the dearly beloved, , who gave his surname to steve mancha.
Robbk Posted February 11, 2013 Posted February 11, 2013 real name marvin jones, took the name montgomery off don montgomery............ it sounded cool. if memory serves he wrote under his own name with don mancha, certainly on the dearly beloved, , who gave his surname to steve mancha. I know that according to some Detroiters from back in the day, Don Mancha had the nickname "Don Juan" Mancha because he was good with the ladies (had a LOT of girlfriends). I also knew that Clyde Wilson took the stage name and pen name of "Steve Mancha". It's also interesting that while with Harvey Fuqua'sand Gwen Gordy Fuqua's Harvey/Tri Phi Records, as a recording artist (The Two Friends-HPC 1001) and as a writer, and also while at Motown, he used his own name of Clyde Wilson. I never heard the story of why he picked "Steve Mancha". How and why did Don Mancha give his surname to Wilson? If I'm not mistaken, "Mancha" wasn't Don Mancha's actual birth family name-it was also a career stage/pen name.
Jim Ohara Posted February 11, 2013 Posted February 11, 2013 think you would be extremely fortunate to pick up a clean copy at that these days. you need to be erring on the side of £200 at least As one of the earlier post states, these used to be around all the time Seem them on here for between 150 and 200 - BUT, do they always sell? I certainly would not pay anywhere near 200 - it's just not that rare Sit tight, wait for one around 100, and make an offer They are on sale pretty regular But if you pay 200, you would need your arse severely kicked Only my opinion of course Jim 1
Dave Pinch Posted February 11, 2013 Posted February 11, 2013 As one of the earlier post states, these used to be around all the time Seem them on here for between 150 and 200 - BUT, do they always sell? I certainly would not pay anywhere near 200 - it's just not that rare Sit tight, wait for one around 100, and make an offer They are on sale pretty regular But if you pay 200, you would need your arse severely kicked Only my opinion of course Jim i think in the jm new book its a typing error and this and the dont turn your back on me values are the wrong way round.........£150 tops for this
Jim Ohara Posted February 11, 2013 Posted February 11, 2013 i think in the jm new book its a typing error and this and the dont turn your back on me values are the wrong way round.........£150 tops for this I would agree Dave - absolute tops if needed desperately But I am unsure if all these actually sell? Jim
Guest stu g Posted February 11, 2013 Posted February 11, 2013 As one of the earlier post states, these used to be around all the time Seem them on here for between 150 and 200 - BUT, do they always sell? I certainly would not pay anywhere near 200 - it's just not that rare Sit tight, wait for one around 100, and make an offer They are on sale pretty regular But if you pay 200, you would need your arse severely kicked Only my opinion of course Jim
Pete S Posted February 11, 2013 Posted February 11, 2013 I sold an UNPLAYED issue for £150 on here 2 weeks ago.
Jim Ohara Posted February 11, 2013 Posted February 11, 2013 I sold an UNPLAYED issue for £150 on here 2 weeks ago. There you go stu Unplayed at 150, so I'm sure you will get one that's used for 100 Good pricing though pete Jim
Pete S Posted February 11, 2013 Posted February 11, 2013 As one of the earlier post states, these used to be around all the time Seem them on here for between 150 and 200 - BUT, do they always sell? I certainly would not pay anywhere near 200 - it's just not that rare Sit tight, wait for one around 100, and make an offer They are on sale pretty regular But if you pay 200, you would need your arse severely kicked Only my opinion of course Jim No way on earth is it worth £200. If the one I had hadn't been pristine, it would have been £125. 1
jocko Posted February 11, 2013 Posted February 11, 2013 There you go stu Unplayed at 150, so I'm sure you will get one that's used for 100 Good pricing though pete Jim I tell you what, you have changed your tune now you are a buyer rather than a seller. I had to sell my 2 firstborn to be able to afford your records. Just added an extra 20% to that pile of stuff I had pulled out for you now..... Right off to freeze my bollocks off! 2
Jim Ohara Posted February 11, 2013 Posted February 11, 2013 I tell you what, you have changed your tune now you are a buyer rather than a seller. I had to sell my 2 firstborn to be able to afford your records. Just added an extra 20% to that pile of stuff I had pulled out for you now..... Right off to freeze my bollocks off! The art of a professional salesperson Mr O!!!
Guest stu g Posted February 11, 2013 Posted February 11, 2013 I tell you what, you have changed your tune now you are a buyer rather than a seller. I had to sell my 2 firstborn to be able to afford your records. Just added an extra 20% to that pile of stuff I had pulled out for you now..... Right off to freeze my bollocks off!
Guest stu g Posted February 11, 2013 Posted February 11, 2013 Cheers jocko was looking for at least a vg++ for bout that price Il sit tight n hope Just bought cajun hart so be a few weeks till i put a want up , cheers for all the replys
Guest turntableterra Posted February 13, 2013 Posted February 13, 2013 quote name='RobbK' timestamp='1360565743' post='1900730' I know that according to some Detroiters from back in the day, Don Mancha had the nickname "Don Juan" Mancha because he was good with the ladies (had a LOT of girlfriends). I also knew that Clyde Wilson took the stage name and pen name of "Steve Mancha". It's also interesting that while with Harvey Fuqua'sand Gwen Gordy Fuqua's Harvey/Tri Phi Records, as a recording artist (The Two Friends-HPC 1001) and as a writer, and also while at Motown, he used his own name of Clyde Wilson. I never heard the story of how and whyhe picked "Steve Mancha". How and why did Don Mancha give his surname to Wilson? If I'm not mistaken, "Mancha" wasn't Don Mancha's actual birth family name-it was also a career stage/pen name. hi rob, i only know he changed his name around the same time as jack montgomery, they probably thought clydie wilson wasnt as cool as steve mancha
Guest stu g Posted February 13, 2013 Posted February 13, 2013 Ta gogz but il sit tight an follows what jocko said €100 Seems fair for a used one which id be playing out anyway But cheers for offer
Lfcjunkie Posted February 13, 2013 Posted February 13, 2013 As one of the earlier post states, these used to be around all the time Seem them on here for between 150 and 200 - BUT, do they always sell? I certainly would not pay anywhere near 200 - it's just not that rare Sit tight, wait for one around 100, and make an offer They are on sale pretty regular But if you pay 200, you would need your arse severely kicked Only my opinion of course Jim agree even though i paid around £15 for minter tops probably around 1992,still wouldnt sell it though i reckon all jacks tunes are essential but just to put another one on the same label into context what about Garland Greens 45s on this they are more common if you ask me!and therefore overpriced way too much at £120ish good as they are cheers dave L
Jim Ohara Posted February 13, 2013 Posted February 13, 2013 agree even though i paid around £15 for minter tops probably around 1992,still wouldnt sell it though i reckon all jacks tunes are essential but just to put another one on the same label into context what about Garland Greens 45s on this they are more common if you ask me!and therefore overpriced way too much at £120ish good as they are cheers dave L dave could not agree more mate GG is common and is for sale alot at present around the price you mention - BUT - are they selling? not a £100 record IMO as i mentioned in another post, just pecause a RARE 45 has gone from £100 to £500 as its now clear that it IS rare, that doesnt mean that a £20 fairly common record becomes £100 jim
Iancsloft Posted February 13, 2013 Posted February 13, 2013 You want the issue which has the inst on the flip the promo has vocal both sides 1
Iancsloft Posted February 13, 2013 Posted February 13, 2013 I first heard it played out in the Highland Room 1972 not sure who played it but same week Kev Fox got a copy that was the first copy I had seen
Dave Rimmer Posted February 13, 2013 Posted February 13, 2013 You want the issue which has the inst on the flip the promo has vocal both sides There are also Promo copies with the vocal and instrumental Ian. 2
Iancsloft Posted February 14, 2013 Posted February 14, 2013 Hi Dave never seen one ive had around 20 copies over the years about 75% of them demos but they have all had the vocal on both sides
Dave Rimmer Posted February 14, 2013 Posted February 14, 2013 Hi Dave never seen one ive had around 20 copies over the years about 75% of them demos but they have all had the vocal on both sides I've got one, so that's how I know about them, but I reckon the demo with the vocal and inst is the rarest format to get hold of this by a long way. 1
Rob Moss Posted February 14, 2013 Posted February 14, 2013 quote name='RobbK' timestamp='1360565743' post='1900730' I know that according to some Detroiters from back in the day, Don Mancha had the nickname "Don Juan" Mancha because he was good with the ladies (had a LOT of girlfriends). I also knew that Clyde Wilson took the stage name and pen name of "Steve Mancha". It's also interesting that while with Harvey Fuqua'sand Gwen Gordy Fuqua's Harvey/Tri Phi Records, as a recording artist (The Two Friends-HPC 1001) and as a writer, and also while at Motown, he used his own name of Clyde Wilson. I never heard the story of how and whyhe picked "Steve Mancha". How and why did Don Mancha give his surname to Wilson? If I'm not mistaken, "Mancha" wasn't Don Mancha's actual birth family name-it was also a career stage/pen name. hi rob, i only know he changed his name around the same time as jack montgomery, they probably thought clydie wilson wasnt as cool as steve mancha Don Juan Mancha and his brother Pedro were both born in Detroit. Their father had Spanish roots, thus the names. Don did lend his name to Clyde Wilson when it was decided that name sounded too 'black'. Extensive article on him coming soon. 2
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