The Place Where Sorrow Hides on the flip # 5372.

I just got one with What can I do #5341.

Which is rarer?

  On 08/02/2013 at 20:49, Mr Smithy said:

The Place Where Sorrow Hides on the flip # 5372.

I just got one with What can I do #5341.

Which is rarer?

the one with 'What can I do', as this was withdrawn and many of the copies destroyed.

  On 08/02/2013 at 20:51, Dave Thorley said:

the one with 'What can I do', as this was withdrawn and many of the copies destroyed.

Interesting. Any ideas why It was withdrawn?

I think it was an issue to do with rights to the song, but can't full remember. Tim Ashibend met the label owner and has the full story.

Just checked my Uk release on Buffalo and it has "the place where sorrow hides" + also credits artist as "Justine". Wonder what happened there!

Yes agree with Dave. What can I do much rarer, though there are copies about.

Steve

  On 08/02/2013 at 20:58, Dave Thorley said:

I think it was an issue to do with rights to the song, but can't full remember. Tim Ashibend met the label owner and has the full story.

Credited to Justin on the label, so unless it was a porky don't see a problem. Interesting if anyone can come up with the story.

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Yes agree with Dave. What can I do much rarer, though there are copies about.

Steve

Mine for one

"What can I do" is such a stunning record. Does anyone know if that article is available online. I Remember some info on the record from the link below, but that's all.

https://solidhitsoul.com/justin.html

Dave

An ad for the studio placed around the time Justin went down there to record his tracks .....

... if you were fully rehearsed (& quick) you could cut a track for $20 !!!!

The studio was located in the Lower East side (of Manhattan) just inland from the Williamburg Bridge that links across to Brooklyn ......

Unfortunately the building that housed the studio was demolished a while back and a 7 storey apartment block replaced it.

Edited February 9, 201312 yr by Roburt

Since Uncle Dave Thorley is on this thread, the Down east label was also tied up with a smaller label that gave us a great Stafford 45......A bit of fun.....first one with the correct answer wins a car etc etc....

  On 09/02/2013 at 10:27, Steve G said:

Since Uncle Dave Thorley is on this thread, the Down east label was also tied up with a smaller label that gave us a great Stafford 45......A bit of fun.....first one with the correct answer wins a car etc etc....

You've got me there Steve. Other than the first pressing were local pressings, but it later came with a Musicor distributed address and a different pressing. In fact there were three pressings one with no address, one with Down East address and one with Musicor distribution address. Not sure in which order of on which of the two titled formats these are....Steve???

Edited February 9, 201312 yr by Dave Thorley

LaMont Johnson and his brother Keith established Down East Records (with funding from MBA, a Manhattan based production company) in New York City in 1966. It was located at 53 Pitt Street in a former seltzer factory. The site housed the offices for Down East along with a small recording studio in the back of the building. Jazz musicians booked to play Slugs, a local jazz club, would hang out at the studio and many times made up the studio band on sessions cut there.

As already stated, the 45 that featured "What Can I Do" was a 'local release' only. Some months later (March 68), Musicor picked it up for national distribution with "Right Now" now being coupled with the 3rd Justin cut. "Right Now" got plays on NY R&B radio stn WWRL (where Frankie Crocker, King Coleman, Jocko Henderson & Gary Byrd were / had been DJ's). The studio went out of business in 1969.

LaMont relocated to LA and got back into playing / cutting jazz but not before he had cut an album with Mokie, JJ & R.O.B. for the Sun, Moon & Stars label (1972). This LP included the track “You're So Real” which also escaped on 45.

Lamont did the musical soundtracks for a couple of B-movies in the early to mid 70's; 'Thunderfist' (film released in 73) & 'Capers' (titled 'How Come Nobody's On Our Side' originally. Film released in 75).

Edited February 9, 201312 yr by Roburt

The announcement that Musicor had licensed the Justin tracks ........

  On 09/02/2013 at 11:22, Dave Thorley said:

You've got me there Steve. Other than the first pressing were local pressings, but it later came with a Musicor distributed address and a different pressing. In fact there were three pressings one with no address, one with Down East address and one with Musicor distribution address. Not sure in which order of on which of the two titled formats these are....Steve???

Dave,

Changing Scene When the City Sleeps...

I've got copies with both B sides, but my one with the place where sorrow hides has no address on it.

There was a white garage band from New York who went by the name of the Changing Scene. Avco signed them in May 70 and they had "Sweet & Sour" out plus a self titled LP by November 70.

Then there's the (Memphis based ?) black outfit who cut in Nashville for Co-Town in 73.

Guess neither outfit is the group who cut for Jo-Vee-Jo though.

great record

  On 09/02/2013 at 10:15, Roburt said:

Unfortunately the building that housed the studio was demolished a while back and a 7 storey apartment block replaced it.

I only live about 10 blocks from there. I walk by it once in a while. Next time ( when the snows gone ) I'll give it a nod as I pass.

Went by yesterday.

Since google in 2011 someone must have bought it and glued on some nice black and white insta-brick fronting.

The psycho coloring is a figment of my camera's imagination.

Assuming there are 12 apartments in the building - 4 are supposedly for let so it says in the window.

Only $3,799 a month + Maint. Bargain eh! More places nobody can afford to live in.

Looks like they're starting some more next door too, oh goody!!