Jim Elliott Posted February 7, 2013 Posted February 7, 2013 What with all the recent (and not so) cd's of the likes of George Jackson, Darrow and so on I wondered if anyone ever had considered one of Chicago's backroom heros in the shape of the late Lee Charles for a comp. A strange cat in that, along with others such as Willie Tee, Richard Caiton and Ty Karim had a moderate body of work, all of which is/was bloody superb. But then theres all the 'Fountain' scene he was connected to with Jerry and Billy Butler, Terry Callier, Larry Wade et al, as well as penning the odd tune or three inc 'I've learned about life'. To think of some unreleased Revue/Dakar/Bamboo gems hidden away on this very underated dude keeps me up nights. Other than a great article and discog about 10 years ago now in SOS infos a bit scarce also, shame, a real unsung hero. But then again, what's new eh? Hopeful, Stoke On Trent (Come on Ady!) 3
Steve G Posted February 7, 2013 Posted February 7, 2013 Did you see the article I wrote on Lee? It's on the web. But yes agree, Steve
Jim Elliott Posted February 7, 2013 Author Posted February 7, 2013 Thats the article I meant Steve, great stuff. People look oddly at me when I rave over Lee Charles, glad it's not just me. Jim. 1
Ljblanken Posted February 8, 2013 Posted February 8, 2013 "then would you love me" on Dakar. fantastic!
Guest Dave Turner Posted February 8, 2013 Posted February 8, 2013 Nice to know there are at least a few of us who appreciate just how good Lee Charles was. Hardly a duff track from the man and like yourself it would be wonderful to hear what, if anything, remains in the can Thanks for the initial post, it restores my sanity "Someone, Somewhere" I would say is my personal fave from the man
Guest Dave Turner Posted February 8, 2013 Posted February 8, 2013 From circa 1961 to 1967 Lee Charles (as Lee Charles Nealy) was a member of the Gospel Chimes who had at least half a dozen or more albums with LC singing on them, whether as lead or not I don't know. That article of Steve's https://www.toodarnsoulful.com/images/pdfs/Lee%20Charles%20Nealy.pdf
Steve G Posted February 8, 2013 Posted February 8, 2013 Interesting about the Gospel Chimes, they were on Carmen Murphy's Hob label early / mid 60s. I'll dig out the albums and see what I can find out about Lee on there.
Guest Dave Turner Posted February 8, 2013 Posted February 8, 2013 (edited) Interesting about the Gospel Chimes, they were on Carmen Murphy's Hob label early / mid 60s. I'll dig out the albums and see what I can find out about Lee on there. Remember reading a snippet about LC and the Gospel Chimes only a few months ago Steve. Would be interested to hear if it's correct Just googled "GOSPEL CHIMES" "LEE CHARLES" and quite a few hits come up with the surname Neely Edited February 8, 2013 by Dave Turner
John Reed Posted February 8, 2013 Posted February 8, 2013 I think it’ll be great as he's got enough released output for a full CD, but would expect due to his recordings being on seven different labels (counting Invictus/Hot Was as two) with many different writers, the gaining of rights to put out a CD could be problematic. Also for all the enthusiasm we all have, I wouldn’t expect it to sell in volume as it spans a couple of genre’s so might detract people from buying it.
Jim Elliott Posted February 8, 2013 Author Posted February 8, 2013 That said, several of Lee's tracks have been released by Kent in the very dim and distant past, 'Never want to lose my sweet thing', 'Wrong number', 'Then would you love me' and the superb 'It's all over between us' all had outings on Kent albums in the 80's so possibly clinching the deal may not be too hard (altho that was a long time ago now). It would only take an unreleased track of quality to wake up the chinstrokers (dream on Jim). I think it would appeal, much like the Spencer Wiggins cd did which also spans several genres. That said, we had the luxury of Spencer over here plugging the thing! Oh to have the same with Lee Charles. 'Someone, Somewhere' live? Yes please! RIP Lee.
phillyDaveG Posted February 9, 2013 Posted February 9, 2013 (edited) Interesting article, but no mention of an LP "The hits of Barry White" released in 1978 on the Chevron label, which I'd always assumed was by him, perhaps it's another Lee Charles then? P.S. It contains a fabulous version of "I'm Gonna Love You Just A Little More Baby" https://www.discogs.c...release/2408330 My personal favourite of Lee's would be the brilliant "I get high on my baby's love" on Bamboo. Edited February 9, 2013 by phillyDaveG
Steve G Posted February 9, 2013 Posted February 9, 2013 (edited) Dave am not sure at all it's the same guy. There was another one who had an LP oN Decca as well I think early 60s - a sort of cover versions thing. Dim and distant memory cos I wrote and researched that article ten years ago+ now. Edited February 9, 2013 by Steve G
phillyDaveG Posted February 9, 2013 Posted February 9, 2013 Cheers Steve, I'll dig out the LP and a couple of 45s and compare the voices when I have a moment. 1
Roburt Posted February 9, 2013 Posted February 9, 2013 Lee Charles Nealy featured on Gospel Chimes tracks on Savoy, HOB & Atlantic. However the group had a number of lead singers over that period (Jessy Dixon, Carl Beans -- not the Motown gay guy, etc). The LP's Lee features on didn't usually detail who was singing lead on the group's tracks unfortunately (lots of gospel albums did back then).
Guest Dave Turner Posted February 9, 2013 Posted February 9, 2013 If you view the following clip on Youtube itself theres a comment that this is Lee Charles on lead. Although difficult to tell as gospel is a completely different style of singing but although it's only a minor snippet listen to the end at 1.46 when he sings the word "more" .. that sounds like pure Lee Charles to me
Ian Dewhirst Posted February 9, 2013 Posted February 9, 2013 It'd be a great idea but the licensing would be a nightmare and probably quite costly. Demon have the Invictus/Hot Wax recordings and potential access to the Brunswick and Bamboo repertoire but Universal have the Revue recordings and I think you'd need them for sure. Lee Charles would suit a Backbeats release but I wouldn't be able to licence in the Universal stuff as that would push the dealer price up. Could be one for Kent? Ian D
Steve G Posted February 9, 2013 Posted February 9, 2013 (edited) Lee Charles Nealy featured on Gospel Chimes tracks on Savoy, HOB & Atlantic. However the group had a number of lead singers over that period (Jessy Dixon, Carl Beans -- not the Motown gay guy, etc). The LP's Lee features on didn't usually detail who was singing lead on the group's tracks unfortunately (lots of gospel albums did back then). The Gospel Chimes were Jessy Dixon's group Roburt. I've listened to their Hob albums this morning and there seems to be quite a few lead singers on those recordings (including James Cleveland, Dixon, Claude Timons and now Lee Charles!) and it would take a while to work out who was who and where Lee was, but interesting that he sang with them and is on their recordings. There is no mention of him on the albums since the Chimes were recording all of Jessy's songs and the liner notes are just a review of the tracks for putative record buyers. It also opens up the possibility of the Riverside LP of Lee Charles singing spirituals also being our man as well..... Good addition to the Lee Charles story! PS: Dave, the Barry White Lee Charles is a UK guy isn't he? Edited February 9, 2013 by Steve G
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