Various Ramblings On The Topic Of Sandy Golden

[Mal C]

Dont we all...

[Guest gordon russell]

ho ho .....ho......love the way you ask as if every tom dick and harry has a copy that they;re kinda fed up with....nice one......you,ll need a few grand.....try hootnannie :lol:

Edited February 2, 2013 by gordon russell

[Guest]

Top ten every time quality love it !

[Lenny Harkins]

Best of luck Kid......................................But you never Know....Long Time want of my own,

[shute]

thanks for the sarcasim quotes guys.... but ..... if you dont ask, you dont get........... all the fun of tracking that 45 you want.... always has been ..... you never know it may come my way ........... not holding my breath though

[Mal C]

it was tad sarcastic, and I apologise for that, but hey, you always get em in the end; this happened to me recently on a magnetics on Bonnie, first heard it in 1987, took me 25 years to actually get that record, now I'm scared to play it...

good luck

mal.C

[shute]

wasn't directed at anyone personely (can't spell) Mal, but thaks for the reply.......... good things come to those who wait

[Dobber]

for those who dont know the tune!...im defo a fan of this one,b side aint bad either.

[Agentsmith]

spellbinding tune, think richard still has his copy. has it not already featured in a thread here where the precise number and owners were discussed?,...

[Marc Forrest]

how many, who..butch, kitch,searling..any more ?

[Dennisoul]

how many, who..butch, kitch,searling..any more ?

Marc...only the 3 top chaps that you've mentioned are lucky enough to own a copy

[Benji]

Who got the copy on Ebay a few years ago?

[Marc Forrest]

Who got the copy on Ebay a few years ago?

butch if I remember correct ?

[Pete S]

Marc...only the 3 top chaps that you've mentioned are lucky enough to own a copy

You can't make statements like that, how do you know who's got it - I know a lady collector (there are some serious ones) in Cheshire who has it. You'd be surprised how many have these things but don't brag about it.

[NEV]

You can't make statements like that, how do you know who's got it - I know a lady collector (there are some serious ones) in Cheshire who has it. You'd be surprised how many have these things but don't brag about it.

Aren't on soulsource ,don't dj etc ..very true Pete !

Probably better to say known copies amongst the dj's of the "rare soul " world

[Dennisoul]

You can't make statements like that, how do you know who's got it - I know a lady collector (there are some serious ones) in Cheshire who has it. You'd be surprised how many have these things but don't brag about it.

I stand corrected Pete....3 top chaps and a lady collector in Cheshire

[Pete S]

I stand corrected Pete....3 top chaps and a lady collector in Cheshire

I still wouldn't bet on that though, people only know about the play out copies, I wouldn't have known about the one I mentioned had she not told me, doesn't play out or brag about it..I remember when there were only a handful of 'known' copies of Court Davis, I bought one off a rockabilly collector, totally off the radar. People were saying well there's only half a dozen but they were wrong...as for the record...I've said this before, I think this is a 70's release because you can hear synth overdubs on it. Two nice sides, nothing special.

[Philt]

Aye Pete, spot on and that 'Cheshire' copy has my name on it all being welll

[Guest gordon russell]

I still wouldn't bet on that though, people only know about the play out copies, I wouldn't have known about the one I mentioned had she not told me, doesn't play out or brag about it..I remember when there were only a handful of 'known' copies of Court Davis, I bought one off a rockabilly collector, totally off the radar. People were saying well there's only half a dozen but they were wrong...as for the record...I've said this before, I think this is a 70's release because you can hear synth overdubs on it. Two nice sides, nothing special.

Pete.....i,m absolutely aghast that you can like tosh such as frankie & johnny......yet think this is "nothing special".....lead singer of the sweets singing a sublime tune.....not really for playing out imo.......just superb soul music

[Pete S]

Pete.....i,m absolutely aghast that you can like tosh such as frankie & johnny......yet think this is "nothing special".....lead singer of the sweets singing a sublime tune.....not really for playing out imo.......just superb soul music

As I say, two pleasant sides, nothing special, the original Sweets track is ten times better anyway.

[Harry Crosby]

You can't make statements like that, how do you know who's got it - I know a lady collector (there are some serious ones) in Cheshire who has it. You'd be surprised how many have these things but don't brag about it.

Well said Pete, I know a lady near Harrogate in Yorkshire, now theres a collection to feast your eyes on. Never goes anywhere just collects records, and no before anyone asks I won`t be giving out any details

[Rupert]

kev draper reckons he had on his lists in the 80's , said he had a few of them .

[Prophonics 2029]

It has a guitar sound taking the beat, it also sounds like a sample as it goes on near the end.

I don't if its possible to find any info on the band, The bass guitar sounds like a cardboard box and sounds like a famous soul singer player.

[Pete S]

It has a guitar sound taking the beat, it also sounds like a sample as it goes on near the end.

I don't if its possible to find any info on the band, The bass guitar sounds like a cardboard box and sounds like a famous soul singer player.

What they've done is taken the basic backing track from The Sweets "There's Something About My Baby" and overdubbed instruments onto it.

[Dobber]

What they've done is taken the basic backing track from The Sweets "There's Something About My Baby" and overdubbed instruments onto it.

i never put the two as the same tune,i usually pick up on these things,and now that ive listened to both versions,i would have to go with the sweets,i think the vocal is far superior to sandy's.

[Guest gordon russell]

i never put the two as the same tune,i usually pick up on these things,and now that ive listened to both versions,i would have to go with the sweets,i think the vocal is far superior to sandy's.

same singer...............anyone know why they changed the singer for "ballroom blitz"

Edited February 5, 2013 by gordon russell

[NEV]

i never put the two as the same tune,i usually pick up on these things,and now that ive listened to both versions,i would have to go with the sweets,i think the vocal is far superior to sandy's.

But to be fair ,as far as i'm concerned ,it's the flip side that makes this particular 45 the jewell that it is .

"Your love is everything " is sublime !

So Pete and anyone else who want's to pick the bones out of the weaker side being better or worse than the sweets, is neither here nor there ,it's just a bonus track that makes the 45 a great double sider

[Prophonics 2029]

What they've done is taken the basic backing track from The Sweets "There's Something About My Baby" and overdubbed instruments onto it.

I will play them at the same time when I get home and see, dosnt solve me problem with the bass player tho. Cheers.

[Pete S]

So Pete and anyone else who want's to pick the bones out of the weaker side being better or worse than the sweets, is neither here nor there

Maybe not to you but it's my opinion so it is either here nor there.

Weaker side my arse

[jocko]

Pete.....i,m absolutely aghast that you can like tosh such as frankie & johnny......yet think this is "nothing special".....lead singer of the sweets singing a sublime tune.....not really for playing out imo.......just superb soul music

You obviously still believe in Santa and the Virgin Mary if you are surprised, you would have thought being as old as you (according to Cliff Steele) you would know better :-)

[Pete S]

You obviously still believe in Santa and the Virgin Mary if you are surprised, you would have thought being as old as you (according to Cliff Steele) you would know better :-)

You probably haven't even heard it...

[jocko]

You probably haven't even heard it...

I was dancing to it while you and the other stuck in a time warp people were on their "break"

[Guest gordon russell]

You probably haven't even heard it...

he,s not........ he,s trying to trick us that nasty hobbittses

Edited February 5, 2013 by gordon russell

[Pete S]

I was dancing to it while you and the other stuck in a time warp people were on their "break"

I never had a break, I just moved away from the epicentre

[NEV]

Maybe not to you but it's my opinion so it is either here nor there.

Weaker side my arse

You'd have to ask those who go to the venues that it gets played at ,or maybe the dj's who play it out ,which side is the preferred ?

But for me it's a no contest " YLIE " is the side .

If I wanted to own or play the flip i and others would buy the Sweets ,it's rare but not as rare and comes up for sale more often ..and for half the price

[Pete S]

You'd have to ask those who go to the venues that it gets played at ,or maybe the dj's who play it out ,which side is the preferred ?

But for me it's a no contest " YLIE " is the side .

If I wanted to own or play the flip i and others would buy the Sweets ,it's rare but not as rare and comes up for sale more often ..and for half the price

Yeah but it's a different song to the Sweets, why would you but The Sweets if you wanted Sandy Golden, that's like saying you want Moonlight Music And You but can't get it so you're buying What Shall I Do instead.

[NEV]

Yeah but it's a different song to the Sweets, why would you but The Sweets if you wanted Sandy Golden, that's like saying you want Moonlight Music And You but can't get it so you're buying What Shall I Do instead.

Ok ,different lyrics ,but my point is ,if the sweets track is so much better than the alt take by Sandy Golden and this is the best of the two sides ,or the more popular side ,then it's a no brainer .

But it's not the reason why people love and want Sandy Golden ..it's the "B" side that is the jewell in the crown !

[Pete S]

Ok ,different lyrics ,but my point is ,if the sweets track is so much better than the alt take by Sandy Golden and this is the best of the two sides ,or the more popular side ,then it's a no brainer .

But it's not the reason why people love and want Sandy Golden ..it's the "B" side that is the jewell in the crown !

I'm not "dissing" the Sandy Golden Nev, I like it, both sides, I just don't think it's got whatever it is that takes a record to the highest level though - it's another of those where if it were a fiver...I think both sides start out superbly then just go off the boil

[Agentsmith]

wonder how many people have naughty carvers of it?

[Pete S]

wonder how many people have naughty carvers of it?

Well I did 3 double sided ones, and I ended up selling the one I kept so thats 3...

[Jumpinjoan]

YLIE is stunning, goose bumps thinking about it!

[Steve G]

I'm not "dissing" the Sandy Golden Nev, I like it, both sides, I just don't think it's got whatever it is that takes a record to the highest level though

Floor Packer though Pete and I love it.

Edited February 5, 2013 by Steve G

[arnie j]

just out of interest,how much has this record sold for in the past ? absolutely beautiful piece of soul music to my ears !

jason

[Steve G]

Jason it hasn't come up for sale in recent history. So any comparison of how much Richard played Jimmy W or whoever for a copy back in the 80s when Jocko was on his sebatical is kind of meaningless.

[Chalky]

Richard got it off Rob Marriott. It resided at my mates or ages prior to the deal.

[Pete S]

Anyone remember me posting up the label scans of Sandy Golden's other 45? It had her manager's phone number on the label!

[Chalky]

My mate has her other masterpiece 45, have a scan from it at home somewhere.

[Steve G]

Anyone remember me posting up the label scans of Sandy Golden's other 45? It had her manager's phone number on the label!

Yes Las Vegas or somewhere odd wasn't it?

[Pete S]

Yes Las Vegas or somewhere odd wasn't it?

Steve I can't remember but I never deleted it so it must still be on here somewhere

[Guest gordon russell]

You obviously still believe in Santa and the Virgin Mary if you are surprised, you would have thought being as old as you (according to Cliff Steele) you would know better :-)

speaking of clifford.......it was at his detroit academicals night in northampton.....where l first heard rob marriot play this masterpiece...cliff,ll tell ya when that was