Harvey Averne

[Goldsoul]

Guys,

What's the Harvey Averne track being played at present. I think it's on Cotique.

He's a guest on our show on Smooth in 2 weeks and we want to add another song to 'Think It Over'

Ta

[Bigsoulman]

Never Learned To Dance on Fania?

[Guest Jamie]

Central Park on Fania would be my choice.

*On Uptite

Edited January 31, 2013 by Jamie

[Ted Massey]

Never Learned To Dance on Fania?

its on Uptite

is it this Kev

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=N3ulBkyeDRk

[Guest Jamie]

its on Uptite

So is Central Park!

[Ritchieandrew]

There's just been a thread on here about "Central Park". Both this & Never learned to dance are current spins, the former coming out twice 1) as Harvey Averne Dozen, then 2) Harvey Averne Band, which is the LP version.!

[Goldsoul]

Thanks guys. It is 'Never Learned To Dance'. I'll pull it down from You Tube and play it in his company. You never know he might have a spare. Value? Lol

[Dave Pinch]

a tenner.....give me first refusal kev

[Des Crombie]

its on Uptite

is it this Kev

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=N3ulBkyeDRk

As it says on the 45, NLTD was originally issued on the Fania label LP. Uptite label 45's a reissue.

[Ted Massey]

if it was never on a 45 before then it isnt a reissue imo

[Guest sharmo 1]

if it was never on a 45 before then it isnt a reissue imo

Evening Ted hope all groovy with you good sir.This was reissued by jazzman records a few years ago in a latin box set they don't seem to turn up very often though regards Arthur Mullard .P.S.Paula sends a cuddly kiss (bleeding wench)

[Guest gordon russell]

never learned to dance in my under parnts.......big tune for karl heard long before you lot thought about it.......don,t play it anymore where l go...........

[Ted Massey]

never learned to dance in my under parnts.......big tune for karl heard long before you lot thought about it.......don,t play it anymore where l go...........

you dont go any where

[Guest gordon russell]

you dont go any where

that you dj at

[Guest gordon russell]

hello ted

[Ted Massey]

Evening Ted hope all groovy with you good sir.This was reissued by jazzman records a few years ago in a latin box set they don't seem to turn up very often though regards Arthur Mullard .P.S.Paula sends a cuddly kiss (bleeding wench)

how is the lovely lady Sy hope you are looking after her

[Ted Massey]

that you dj at

would want the pressure of having to please you Terry

[Ted Massey]

Hi Terry hows your lovely better half

[Guest gordon russell]

would want the pressure of having to please you Terry

think you mean wouldn,t............ you bin on the vino?.........see ya at lifeline

[Ted Massey]

think you mean wouldn,t............ you bin on the vino?.........see ya at lifeline

sorry mate im at Bisely hope to make a flying visit on the way back

[Guest gordon russell]

Hi Terry hows your lovely better half

she's great.....cooking the dinner lol.........smells great...... hope you are well mate atb tezza....

Edited January 31, 2013 by gordon russell

[Ted Massey]

lucky you Tezz im fine

[Des Crombie]

if it was never on a 45 before then it isnt a reissue imo

You may have a point, so is this an original?

https://www.northernsoulpriceguide.com/guide_detail.php?item=200635303536

[Ady Croasdell]

never learned to dance in my under parnts.......big tune for karl heard long before you lot thought about it.......don,t play it anymore where l go...........

or even the 100 Club in the 80s where it first got played

[Guest gordon russell]

or even the 100 Club in the 80s where it first got played

was that before 3 o,clock.....must have been

[Ady Croasdell]

was that before 3 o,clock.....must have been

We didn't open until 1.30 so no. Did you used to go?

[Amsterdam Russ]

or even the 100 Club in the 80s where it first got played

I got a copy mid 80s from Richard Domar who had it described on his list as "a Catacombs secret sound". I'd never heard of it and bought it blind based solely on that description. I was well chuffed when you played it at the 100 Club because it was the first time I ever knew the identity of a cover up!

[Ady Croasdell]

A well secret Catacombs sound. Can you remember what i covered it as?

I got a copy mid 80s from Richard Domar who had it described on his list as "a Catacombs secret sound". I'd never heard of it and bought it blind based solely on that description. I was well chuffed when you played it at the 100 Club because it was the first time I ever knew the identity of a cover up!

[Amsterdam Russ]

Either the Rhythm Kings or the Rhythm Aces. I'd go for the first one...

[Chalky]

never learned to dance in my under parnts.......big tune for karl heard long before you lot thought about it.......don,t play it anymore where l go...........

Whose you lot? There must have been a lot of places you didn't go to until you heard Karl cause you keep making these daft comments.

[Dean Rudland]

As it says on the 45, NLTD was originally issued on the Fania label LP. Uptite label 45's a reissue.

It wasn't though.

As the 45 says it was from the Fania LP - at this point Fania were using Uptite to release material that they thought might cross over to the soul charts - both the LP and the single were released at pretty much at the same time. Reissue it isn't.

About ten years ago Harvey sold a box or two of these, and apart from those, its been a very scarce 45 - significantly less were pressed of this than Central Park, or in fact almost all the other Uptite releases.

[Ritchieandrew]

Never learned to dance was played in certain North Wales venues in the mid to late 70's & used to clear the floor everytime, as was "too funky" @ the time.

The prices being asked now are very high for a good but not at all rare record IHMO.

[Geeselad]

Never learned to dance was played in certain North Wales venues in the mid to late 70's & used to clear the floor everytime, as was "too funky" @ the time.

The prices being asked now are very high for a good but not at all rare record IHMO.

According to john B, the font on latin issues for me, and from what Ive seen sold on the bay over the last couple of years, Central park is rarer than, never learned to......, but obviously demand drives price, not obscurity.

[Ted Massey]

It wasn't though.

As the 45 says it was from the Fania LP - at this point Fania were using Uptite to release material that they thought might cross over to the soul charts - both the LP and the single were released at pretty much at the same time. Reissue it isn't.

About ten years ago Harvey sold a box or two of these, and apart from those, its been a very scarce 45 - significantly less were pressed of this than Central Park, or in fact almost all the other Uptite releases.

Thanks for clearing that up Dean

[Soulboy69]

It's been played across the pond here in Ireland for many many years so it's actually an 'oldie' over here!

Great record though and i still like to spin it.

[Des Crombie]

It wasn't though.

As the 45 says it was from the Fania LP - at this point Fania were using Uptite to release material that they thought might cross over to the soul charts - both the LP and the single were released at pretty much at the same time. Reissue it isn't

Ok Dean, didn't know that. I thought there was over a year between the lp and single release plus different label. Always good to wind up the 45 only guys lol. I'm happy with my lp. Thanks for the info.

[Chalky]

It's been played across the pond here in Ireland for many many years so it's actually an 'oldie' over here!

Great record though and i still like to spin it.

It's an overplayed oldie over here as well.

[Quinvy]

I've never got it at all. Truly awful to my ears but I must be in the minority judging by the amount of money it's been fetching and the number of wants lists I've seen it on.

Anyone know how to find the emoticons with an iPad?

[Chalky]

I've never got it at all. Truly awful to my ears but I must be in the minority judging by the amount of money it's been fetching and the number of wants lists I've seen it on.

Anyone know how to find the emoticons with an iPad?

There is none Phil you have to type out the text.

It is a good record but like any other very wanna be DJ has to have it and hammer it to death. it is a guaranteed floor filler, nice and safe like most DJs and promoters like it.

[Russ Vickers]

_{The 3 copies I had years ago came from Harvey Averne, think he's in Orange County these days...}

_{Best Russ}

[Guest gordon russell]

We didn't open until 1.30 so no. Did you used to go?

No ....sorry ady.....to young

[Guest gordon russell]

Whose you lot? There must have been a lot of places you didn't go to until you heard Karl cause you keep making these daft comments.

what daft comments never said that karl playing it was the first time l,d heard it..........and i,ve been to more places than you,ve had hot dinners

Edited February 1, 2013 by gordon russell

[Chalky]

what daft comments never said that karl playing it was the first time l,d heard it..........and i,ve been to more places than you,ve had hot dinners

you said it was a big tune for Karl before any of us lot even thought about it which isn't quite true is it, it was already a big tune before karl played it and had been for many years. I don't care how many venues you've been too either.

[Dave Abbott]

it is a tough record and quite rare...it took me a year to get one after hearing Rob Messer play it in Bournemouth in August 2004 and I first played it at Cala Gran Balckpool weekender in October 2005 with Kev Roberts in attendance some four year or so before Karl got his and probably 15 years after Ady had stopped playing his....

[Guest gordon russell]

you said it was a big tune for Karl before any of us lot even thought about it which isn't quite true is it, it was already a big tune before karl played it and had been for many years. I don't care how many venues you've been too either.

na na ,,na na ..na .....not including you in the "you lot"......see ya at lifeline

Edited February 1, 2013 by gordon russell

[Guest gordon russell]

it is a tough record and quite rare...it took me a year to get one after hearing Rob Messer play it in Bournemouth in August 2004 and I first played it at Cala Gran Balckpool weekender in October 2005 with Kev Roberts in attendance some four year or so before Karl got his and probably 15 years after Ady had stopped playing his....

never learned to dance........in my underparnts .....do do... dodo do do do

Edited February 1, 2013 by gordon russell

[John A]

it is a tough record and quite rare...it took me a year to get one after hearing Rob Messer play it in Bournemouth in August 2004 and I first played it at Cala Gran Balckpool weekender in October 2005 with Kev Roberts in attendance some four year or so before Karl got his and probably 15 years after Ady had stopped playing his....

Wish I still had it Dave, not cos I particularly like it but so I could bung it on ebay and ching ching cash in!

Always sounded a bit moddy to me. Maybe cos I first heard it via Rob too.

Can we please relegate this record to oldies venues now? Like Stoke

[Dean Rudland]

Never learned to dance was played in certain North Wales venues in the mid to late 70's & used to clear the floor everytime, as was "too funky" @ the time.

The prices being asked now are very high for a good but not at all rare record IHMO.

I wished I'd scanned the pressing figures on this.

Certainly more than hundreds, but less than almost everything - maybe actually everything - on the label.

I think it was a 1000, but maybe 2000. Seem to remember Central Park was double that.

[Dave Pinch]

I wished I'd scanned the pressing figures on this.

Certainly more than hundreds, but less than almost everything - maybe actually everything - on the label.

I think it was a 1000, but maybe 2000. Seem to remember Central Park was double that.

copies of this are there..they just havent been found yet....there was a white demo brought to my house by an old friend of mine who just started to collect the label and he picked this up with consumate ease..of course it hadnt had the big plays at this point tho....of course its tougher than central park but thats a pretty common record usually show in beat up issues so that must have sold locally... as for the fania lp well i suppose it must have been out before the single because the 45 suggests this

[Guest Matt Male]

I bought one from Butch at Sheridans (not sure what year that would be) and even then i thought I was buying a played out oldie, because I hadn't heard it anywhere since the 80s.

Gobsmacked at the way it took off years later. Maybe not mega-rare but I think the value represents the popularity and the fact that people who have one won't let them go cheaply.