Soulfuljules Posted January 14, 2013 Posted January 14, 2013 A couple of months ago I uploaded onto my youtube channel a hq soundfile of the Thornton Sisters r&b track on Cuppy, presuming it's the same band that recorded Big City Boy etc A few days ago, Yvonne Thornton posted a pretty nasty comment stating that they never recorded this tune. "This record is a sham. I am one of the Thornton Sisters and we NEVER recorded this song, yet Mr. Johnnysoul and this Soulfuljules keep misrepresenting this recording as performed by the Thornton Sisters––which it isn't" So does anybody know who THESE Thornton Sisters were?
Only Dreaming Posted January 14, 2013 Posted January 14, 2013 (edited) Good version Dave Edited January 14, 2013 by Only Dreaming
Soulfuljules Posted January 14, 2013 Author Posted January 14, 2013 Hi Gary, what do you mean by legit? the record itself is certainly an original 1965 pressing. whether the group were the thornton sisters that recorded Big City Boy or (according to Yvonne Thornton) not, well I don't know. Could have simply been another group with the same name. It wouldn't certainly be the first case in black music
Pomonkey Posted January 14, 2013 Posted January 14, 2013 I always like the fact that the label was owned by Bill Haley and "Cuppy" was his wife's name (or nickname, maybe she was a bit of a heavy drinker!)
Soulfuljules Posted January 14, 2013 Author Posted January 14, 2013 Somebody commented on the youtube clip that they were already divorced by then
Keithw Posted January 14, 2013 Posted January 14, 2013 (edited) I Bought the test pressing via a top dj in the uk it was from the record producer - SONNY CASELLA maybe he will know if it isnt them except for cuppy label is blank Edited January 14, 2013 by keithw
Chalky Posted January 14, 2013 Posted January 14, 2013 Article on this site bout them https://www.soul-source.co.uk/articles/articles/soul-articles/thornton-sisters-the-ditchdiggers-daughters-r293 Search the t'internet for Ditchdiggers Daughters as well. 1
Soulfuljules Posted January 14, 2013 Author Posted January 14, 2013 Article on this site bout them https://www.soul-sour...-daughters-r293 Search the t'internet for Ditchdiggers Daughters as well. yeah, i had read the article and found it very interesting indeed. the thing is that it implies that the group that recorded I Keep Forgetting is the same group that recorded Big City Boy, while Yvonne Thornton strongly denies it.
Dave Thorley Posted January 14, 2013 Posted January 14, 2013 I had the same response from her when I posted it on Youtube a few years ago. If she says she didn't record it then I tend to believe her. But there is always the other possibility, that it was the sisters recording, but they didn't realise it had been released at the time, never got paid and now days they are just very pissed off with the level of interest in it. The murky world of 60's soul recordings. !!!! 3
Quinvy Posted January 14, 2013 Posted January 14, 2013 Can't blame the lady for not wanting to be associated with that dirge.
Diddy Morgan Posted January 14, 2013 Posted January 14, 2013 and that b side that got spun out ..........oop poop i doop or something along those lines!!!
grant Posted January 14, 2013 Posted January 14, 2013 and that b side that got spun out ..........oop poop i doop or something along those lines!!! ooh pooh pah doo ....
Guest john s Posted January 14, 2013 Posted January 14, 2013 I love that Thornton Sisters 45, whether it is them or not. Only wish I could afford a copy!
Roburt Posted January 14, 2013 Posted January 14, 2013 I'll just stick with Chuck Jackson ........... it's at least 500% better !!!
Guest Garry Huxley Posted January 14, 2013 Posted January 14, 2013 I had the same response from her when I posted it on Youtube a few years ago. If she says she didn't record it then I tend to believe her. But there is always the other possibility, that it was the sisters recording, but they didn't realise it had been released at the time, never got paid and now days they are just very pissed off with the level of interest in it. The murky world of 60's soul recordings. !!!! Hello Dave, Long time since stafford, Early 80's. The only record i've got is Watch your step by them,Maybe it's an omen ???. Isent it time you reinstated top dog, I,ve still got my membership card. Garry
Pete S Posted January 14, 2013 Posted January 14, 2013 (edited) I'll just stick with Chuck Jackson ........... it's at least 500% better !!! Kinnell even David Bowie's 1984 version is better than the Thornton Sisters Edited January 14, 2013 by Pete S
Alison H Posted January 14, 2013 Posted January 14, 2013 I love that Thornton Sisters 45, whether it is them or not. Only wish I could afford a copy! Me too
Guest Garry Huxley Posted January 14, 2013 Posted January 14, 2013 Hi Gary, what do you mean by legit? the record itself is certainly an original 1965 pressing. whether the group were the thornton sisters that recorded Big City Boy or (according to Yvonne Thornton) not, well I don't know. Could have simply been another group with the same name. It wouldn't certainly be the first case in black music Thanks , I'm gonna have to get out more, Been of the scene for so long it hurts. Garry
Soulfuljules Posted January 15, 2013 Author Posted January 15, 2013 (edited) ok, so Dr Yvonne Thornton posted tonight a couple of comments that probably clear this matter " I am ONE HUNDRED PERCENT positive that The Thornton Sisters did NOT make this recording. What I believed happened was that our former manager, Sonny Cassella (of questionable repute) put our name on this Cuppy label and put it out as being recorded by us (The Thornton Sisters) when in reality it was manufactured by studio musicians." "We WERE the only group recording under the name of The Thornton Sisters (a sextuplet of musicians). According to the American Federation of Musicians, there was only ONE group of musicians called The Thornton Sisters between 1960 to the present. I DO believe that Sonny Cassella (our former manager) was less than honest in putting our name on this Cuppy recording which we didn't record. Shame on him." Edited January 15, 2013 by soulfuljules 1
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